RE: Licensing
Contact your local vendor who supplied the licensing. We aren't authorized MS Licensing dealers here. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 6:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Licensing Hi, I'd be grateful if someone could clarify the licensing situation with exchange, the MS site is not particularly informative in this regard. I understand that exchange CAL's must be bought 'per-seat' for each device that will access the server, although academic organisations can buy 'per-mailbox' licensing. I also understand that a CAL is required for OWA access. How does this work? What about users checking their mail from internet cafes etc? Technically, it seems as though you would need a CAL for those machines as well. thanks for any info dan. Exchange 5.5 sp4 Win2k Advanced Server (2-node cluster) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
There are 2 VERY DIFFERENT animals--corporate MC licensing and academic licensing. Even the Redmond folks don't always know the difference. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Contact your local vendor who supplied the licensing. We aren't authorized MS Licensing dealers here. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 6:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Licensing Hi, I'd be grateful if someone could clarify the licensing situation with exchange, the MS site is not particularly informative in this regard. I understand that exchange CAL's must be bought 'per-seat' for each device that will access the server, although academic organisations can buy 'per-mailbox' licensing. I also understand that a CAL is required for OWA access. How does this work? What about users checking their mail from internet cafes etc? Technically, it seems as though you would need a CAL for those machines as well. thanks for any info dan. Exchange 5.5 sp4 Win2k Advanced Server (2-node cluster) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
Contact your local vendor who supplied the licensing. We aren't authorized MS Licensing dealers here. well thanks for that rather rude response. i realise that the folks on this list aren't license vendors, although it's possible that someone might be. regardless, i believe that this is an appropriate place to discuss exchange licensing with other exchange admins. if you disagree strongly enough to merit a post to the list, then perhaps you should explain why. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
Daniel, Let me tell you something from experience. I use to get pissy when everyone would say rude things to me cause of some of my posts. You just have to look past the sarcasim (which is pretty funny at times) cause people will help you with what you need. And I believe this list is very appropriate for you question. Just lighten up some. Don't take everything to heart. Most of the time when they are getting on you, they are trying to help you. They may not come right out and tell you, but they are trying to help you push yourself for the answers. All I can say is just relax...and let the good times roll!! John Bowles Exchange Administrator Enterprise Support Engineering Celera Genomics [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Contact your local vendor who supplied the licensing. We aren't authorized MS Licensing dealers here. well thanks for that rather rude response. i realise that the folks on this list aren't license vendors, although it's possible that someone might be. regardless, i believe that this is an appropriate place to discuss exchange licensing with other exchange admins. if you disagree strongly enough to merit a post to the list, then perhaps you should explain why. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
Hmmm... I've been rude before and if you thought that was rude I've got an eye opening experience for you... Now back to your subject... Any one of us could give you any kind of advice on MS licensing issues. However, when you get audited and you're asked where you got your information. What are you going to tell them? Well uh, the guys on this Exchange list group told me that I could do it this way... Soon after you'll quite possibly be paying a fine for incorrect licensing and wondering why versus calling your sales rep and having them clarifying your licensing in writing so you don't get burned. Take it either way. I don't really care, but I'm not going to rely on this list to tell me how my licensing works for my company. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 6:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Contact your local vendor who supplied the licensing. We aren't authorized MS Licensing dealers here. well thanks for that rather rude response. i realise that the folks on this list aren't license vendors, although it's possible that someone might be. regardless, i believe that this is an appropriate place to discuss exchange licensing with other exchange admins. if you disagree strongly enough to merit a post to the list, then perhaps you should explain why. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
Now do you see why some of us don't like talking about it? :) well, i sense that it's a touchy subject here. perhaps this should be mentioned in the FAQ? thanks for your advice, by the way. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
Take it either way. I don't really care, but I'm not going to rely on this list to tell me how my licensing works for my company. nor would i. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says. maybe i'm wrong, but your response seems paranoid and unhelfpful. that said, i'm sorry if I've offended you. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
-Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 October 2001 15:32 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Take it either way. I don't really care, but I'm not going to rely on this list to tell me how my licensing works for my company. nor would i. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says. maybe i'm wrong, but your response seems paranoid and unhelfpful. that said, i'm sorry if I've offended you. But that's a natural reaction to previous licence horror stories that we've seen on the list[1] rather than anything personal against you. [1] and of course for the stories to get to the list, some have had personal experience. -- This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons or unauthorized employees of the intended organisations is strictly prohibited. The contents of this email do not necessarily represent the views or policies of Luton Sixth Form College, its employees or students. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
There is nothing to consider. What MS and your Licensing rep say is all there is to it. It doesn't matter if what they've told me is different from what they told you, what they tell you is the licensing you are bound to. There is nothing to consider about that. The only person qualified to talk to you about licensing is the sales rep you buy your licenses from. Not even an MS licensing sales guy on this list can tell you what your licensing scheme is. Hell even our MS sales guy refers us to our licensing rep when we have licensing questions! Phil i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says.? Think through that statement again. When it comes to something like licensing, who gives a flip what anyone here says versus what MS says? We can't bust you for a license violation. And if you're not going to rely on it, why ask? Stephen -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Take it either way. I don't really care, but I'm not going to rely on this list to tell me how my licensing works for my company. nor would i. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says. maybe i'm wrong, but your response seems paranoid and unhelfpful. that said, i'm sorry if I've offended you. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
Pretty tough to offend me... So no apology necessary. :o) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Take it either way. I don't really care, but I'm not going to rely on this list to tell me how my licensing works for my company. nor would i. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says. maybe i'm wrong, but your response seems paranoid and unhelfpful. that said, i'm sorry if I've offended you. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
well, i 'give a flip', that's why i asked! of course we talk to the licensing rep, but I asked because: a) the licensing reps don't always sound entirely convincing b) the information on the MS site is ambiguous c) there's nothing about licensing in the FAQ d) i didn't think anyone would mind. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says.? Think through that statement again. When it comes to something like licensing, who gives a flip what anyone here says versus what MS says? We can't bust you for a license violation. And if you're not going to rely on it, why ask? Stephen -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Take it either way. I don't really care, but I'm not going to rely on this list to tell me how my licensing works for my company. nor would i. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says. maybe i'm wrong, but your response seems paranoid and unhelfpful. that said, i'm sorry if I've offended you. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
a) Yeah, isn't that annoying?!? b) yep. Because it's always changing. c) because that would grant an even greater liability -- people who didn't know about the list could find our 'recommendation' and get into trouble without having the luck to ask us in 'person'. d) mind is a funny word... :P As unconvincing as your licensing rep sounds, her/his word is the final word. Sorry. Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net If we in our turn plan on militarism, vengeance, and retaliation, if we steel our spirits against the suffering which such pursuits always cause to the innocent, in short, if we turn to the tools of death, then whatever hollow triumph we may trumpet, it will have been Death alone which has won. --G. Simon Harak, Jesuit Priest interviewed 9/21 in NY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing well, i 'give a flip', that's why i asked! of course we talk to the licensing rep, but I asked because: a) the licensing reps don't always sound entirely convincing b) the information on the MS site is ambiguous c) there's nothing about licensing in the FAQ d) i didn't think anyone would mind. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says.? Think through that statement again. When it comes to something like licensing, who gives a flip what anyone here says versus what MS says? We can't bust you for a license violation. And if you're not going to rely on it, why ask? Stephen -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Take it either way. I don't really care, but I'm not going to rely on this list to tell me how my licensing works for my company. nor would i. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says. maybe i'm wrong, but your response seems paranoid and unhelfpful. that said, i'm sorry if I've offended you. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing OH, FAQ GHODS!
Well, that's a good idea. OH GREAT AND POWERFUL FAQ GHODS! HEAR MY ENTREATY! I WILL SACRIFICE A BRICK LEVEL BACKUP AND THREE CUSTOM RECIPIENTS IN YOUR HONOR!!! Could we have a bit in the FAQ that says xx.x Licensing: only your rep knows for sure or something like that? THE FAQ GHODS ARE BENIFICENT AND POWERFUL!!! FEAR THEM, WORSHIP THEM, BOW DOWN TO THEM!!! THERE IS NO DANA, THERE IS ONLY THE FAQ GHODS! We will now turn to the FAQ, section 2, part b. Please rise whilst we sing the recessional. Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net As You Shall Make Your Bed So Shall You... Mess It Up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing a) damn right b) poor excuse for crap MS policy and dissemination of info c) i was thinking more along the lines of 'discussion of licensing isn't popular on the list, talk to your rep' d) in the west of england, people say 'mind' at the end of most sentences, pronounced 'moynd'. :) a) Yeah, isn't that annoying?!? b) yep. Because it's always changing. c) because that would grant an even greater liability -- people who didn't know about the list could find our 'recommendation' and get into trouble without having the luck to ask us in 'person'. d) mind is a funny word... :P As unconvincing as your licensing rep sounds, her/his word is the final word. Sorry. Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net If we in our turn plan on militarism, vengeance, and retaliation, if we steel our spirits against the suffering which such pursuits always cause to the innocent, in short, if we turn to the tools of death, then whatever hollow triumph we may trumpet, it will have been Death alone which has won. --G. Simon Harak, Jesuit Priest interviewed 9/21 in NY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing well, i 'give a flip', that's why i asked! of course we talk to the licensing rep, but I asked because: a) the licensing reps don't always sound entirely convincing b) the information on the MS site is ambiguous c) there's nothing about licensing in the FAQ d) i didn't think anyone would mind. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says.? Think through that statement again. When it comes to something like licensing, who gives a flip what anyone here says versus what MS says? We can't bust you for a license violation. And if you're not going to rely on it, why ask? Stephen -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Take it either way. I don't really care, but I'm not going to rely on this list to tell me how my licensing works for my company. nor would i. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says. maybe i'm wrong, but your response seems paranoid and unhelfpful. that said, i'm sorry if I've offended you. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com
RE: Licensing
D) They also say mind at the beginning of one. Like Mind the Gap ;o) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing a) damn right b) poor excuse for crap MS policy and dissemination of info c) i was thinking more along the lines of 'discussion of licensing isn't popular on the list, talk to your rep' d) in the west of england, people say 'mind' at the end of most sentences, pronounced 'moynd'. :) a) Yeah, isn't that annoying?!? b) yep. Because it's always changing. c) because that would grant an even greater liability -- people who didn't know about the list could find our 'recommendation' and get into trouble without having the luck to ask us in 'person'. d) mind is a funny word... :P As unconvincing as your licensing rep sounds, her/his word is the final word. Sorry. Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net If we in our turn plan on militarism, vengeance, and retaliation, if we steel our spirits against the suffering which such pursuits always cause to the innocent, in short, if we turn to the tools of death, then whatever hollow triumph we may trumpet, it will have been Death alone which has won. --G. Simon Harak, Jesuit Priest interviewed 9/21 in NY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing well, i 'give a flip', that's why i asked! of course we talk to the licensing rep, but I asked because: a) the licensing reps don't always sound entirely convincing b) the information on the MS site is ambiguous c) there's nothing about licensing in the FAQ d) i didn't think anyone would mind. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says.? Think through that statement again. When it comes to something like licensing, who gives a flip what anyone here says versus what MS says? We can't bust you for a license violation. And if you're not going to rely on it, why ask? Stephen -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Take it either way. I don't really care, but I'm not going to rely on this list to tell me how my licensing works for my company. nor would i. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says. maybe i'm wrong, but your response seems paranoid and unhelfpful. that said, i'm sorry if I've offended you. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing OH, FAQ GHODS!
Sacrifice BLB's to the gods? Are you trying to anger them Drew? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing OH, FAQ GHODS! OH GREAT AND POWERFUL FAQ GHODS! HEAR MY ENTREATY! I WILL SACRIFICE A BRICK LEVEL BACKUP AND THREE CUSTOM RECIPIENTS IN YOUR HONOR!!! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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D) They also say mind at the beginning of one. Like Mind the Gap ;o) you'd be amazed. people say things like: mind yourself there, mind. i don't mind you, but your friends no fun, mind. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing a) damn right b) poor excuse for crap MS policy and dissemination of info c) i was thinking more along the lines of 'discussion of licensing isn't popular on the list, talk to your rep' d) in the west of england, people say 'mind' at the end of most sentences, pronounced 'moynd'. :) a) Yeah, isn't that annoying?!? b) yep. Because it's always changing. c) because that would grant an even greater liability -- people who didn't know about the list could find our 'recommendation' and get into trouble without having the luck to ask us in 'person'. d) mind is a funny word... :P As unconvincing as your licensing rep sounds, her/his word is the final word. Sorry. Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net If we in our turn plan on militarism, vengeance, and retaliation, if we steel our spirits against the suffering which such pursuits always cause to the innocent, in short, if we turn to the tools of death, then whatever hollow triumph we may trumpet, it will have been Death alone which has won. --G. Simon Harak, Jesuit Priest interviewed 9/21 in NY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing well, i 'give a flip', that's why i asked! of course we talk to the licensing rep, but I asked because: a) the licensing reps don't always sound entirely convincing b) the information on the MS site is ambiguous c) there's nothing about licensing in the FAQ d) i didn't think anyone would mind. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says.? Think through that statement again. When it comes to something like licensing, who gives a flip what anyone here says versus what MS says? We can't bust you for a license violation. And if you're not going to rely on it, why ask? Stephen -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Take it either way. I don't really care, but I'm not going to rely on this list to tell me how my licensing works for my company. nor would i. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says. maybe i'm wrong, but your response seems paranoid and unhelfpful. that said, i'm sorry if I've offended you. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http
RE: Licensing OH, FAQ GHODS!
If I sacrifice one, it can't be used. Isn't that the point? Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net It's interesting that I work in one of the two industries in the world that call their customers 'users'. - Fred Allison -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing OH, FAQ GHODS! Sacrifice BLB's to the gods? Are you trying to anger them Drew? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing OH, FAQ GHODS! OH GREAT AND POWERFUL FAQ GHODS! HEAR MY ENTREATY! I WILL SACRIFICE A BRICK LEVEL BACKUP AND THREE CUSTOM RECIPIENTS IN YOUR HONOR!!! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i tell you what, you're wasted in IT, get on the tv or something. OH GREAT AND POWERFUL FAQ GHODS! HEAR MY ENTREATY! I WILL SACRIFICE A BRICK LEVEL BACKUP AND THREE CUSTOM RECIPIENTS IN YOUR HONOR!!! Could we have a bit in the FAQ that says xx.x Licensing: only your rep knows for sure or something like that? THE FAQ GHODS ARE BENIFICENT AND POWERFUL!!! FEAR THEM, WORSHIP THEM, BOW DOWN TO THEM!!! THERE IS NO DANA, THERE IS ONLY THE FAQ GHODS! We will now turn to the FAQ, section 2, part b. Please rise whilst we sing the recessional. Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net As You Shall Make Your Bed So Shall You... Mess It Up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing a) damn right b) poor excuse for crap MS policy and dissemination of info c) i was thinking more along the lines of 'discussion of licensing isn't popular on the list, talk to your rep' d) in the west of england, people say 'mind' at the end of most sentences, pronounced 'moynd'. :) a) Yeah, isn't that annoying?!? b) yep. Because it's always changing. c) because that would grant an even greater liability -- people who didn't know about the list could find our 'recommendation' and get into trouble without having the luck to ask us in 'person'. d) mind is a funny word... :P As unconvincing as your licensing rep sounds, her/his word is the final word. Sorry. Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net If we in our turn plan on militarism, vengeance, and retaliation, if we steel our spirits against the suffering which such pursuits always cause to the innocent, in short, if we turn to the tools of death, then whatever hollow triumph we may trumpet, it will have been Death alone which has won. --G. Simon Harak, Jesuit Priest interviewed 9/21 in NY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing well, i 'give a flip', that's why i asked! of course we talk to the licensing rep, but I asked because: a) the licensing reps don't always sound entirely convincing b) the information on the MS site is ambiguous c) there's nothing about licensing in the FAQ d) i didn't think anyone would mind. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says.? Think through that statement again. When it comes to something like licensing, who gives a flip what anyone here says versus what MS says? We can't bust you for a license violation. And if you're not going to rely on it, why ask? Stephen -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Take it either way. I don't really care, but I'm not going to rely on this list to tell me how my licensing works for my company. nor would i. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says. maybe i'm wrong, but your response seems paranoid and unhelfpful. that said, i'm sorry if I've offended you. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL
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just MS knowledge gods know MS better than the coders -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 09:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Contact your local vendor who supplied the licensing. We aren't authorized MS Licensing dealers here. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 6:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Licensing Hi, I'd be grateful if someone could clarify the licensing situation with exchange, the MS site is not particularly informative in this regard. I understand that exchange CAL's must be bought 'per-seat' for each device that will access the server, although academic organisations can buy 'per-mailbox' licensing. I also understand that a CAL is required for OWA access. How does this work? What about users checking their mail from internet cafes etc? Technically, it seems as though you would need a CAL for those machines as well. thanks for any info dan. Exchange 5.5 sp4 Win2k Advanced Server (2-node cluster) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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yeah I learned the hard way Daniel -Original Message- From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Daniel, Let me tell you something from experience. I use to get pissy when everyone would say rude things to me cause of some of my posts. You just have to look past the sarcasim (which is pretty funny at times) cause people will help you with what you need. And I believe this list is very appropriate for you question. Just lighten up some. Don't take everything to heart. Most of the time when they are getting on you, they are trying to help you. They may not come right out and tell you, but they are trying to help you push yourself for the answers. All I can say is just relax...and let the good times roll!! John Bowles Exchange Administrator Enterprise Support Engineering Celera Genomics [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Contact your local vendor who supplied the licensing. We aren't authorized MS Licensing dealers here. well thanks for that rather rude response. i realise that the folks on this list aren't license vendors, although it's possible that someone might be. regardless, i believe that this is an appropriate place to discuss exchange licensing with other exchange admins. if you disagree strongly enough to merit a post to the list, then perhaps you should explain why. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't think Don's been rude at all. What he was trying to say was that you should really talk to your supplier because they have the best answer for you. The only right answer for licensing questions would come from Microsoft or their distributor that you work with. S. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Contact your local vendor who supplied the licensing. We aren't authorized MS Licensing dealers here. well thanks for that rather rude response. i realise that the folks on this list aren't license vendors, although it's possible that someone might be. regardless, i believe that this is an appropriate place to discuss exchange licensing with other exchange admins. if you disagree strongly enough to merit a post to the list, then perhaps you should explain why. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The bottom line is that anything we say here regarding licensing is just an opinion. There is nothing we can say that you can take to the bank. Call Microsoft 5x. Each time you will get a difffent answer. Ask for the answer in writing and then pick the one you like best. :) -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Contact your local vendor who supplied the licensing. We aren't authorized MS Licensing dealers here. well thanks for that rather rude response. i realise that the folks on this list aren't license vendors, although it's possible that someone might be. regardless, i believe that this is an appropriate place to discuss exchange licensing with other exchange admins. if you disagree strongly enough to merit a post to the list, then perhaps you should explain why. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How do you pronounce 'moynd'? Michael Herrick Groton CIT Messaging Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing a) damn right b) poor excuse for crap MS policy and dissemination of info c) i was thinking more along the lines of 'discussion of licensing isn't popular on the list, talk to your rep' d) in the west of england, people say 'mind' at the end of most sentences, pronounced 'moynd'. :) a) Yeah, isn't that annoying?!? b) yep. Because it's always changing. c) because that would grant an even greater liability -- people who didn't know about the list could find our 'recommendation' and get into trouble without having the luck to ask us in 'person'. d) mind is a funny word... :P As unconvincing as your licensing rep sounds, her/his word is the final word. Sorry. Drew If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other. (Mother Theresa) KWAR2001 website: www.schoolofdefence.org/kwar.html Pics of Max are BACK! http://www.drewncapris.net If we in our turn plan on militarism, vengeance, and retaliation, if we steel our spirits against the suffering which such pursuits always cause to the innocent, in short, if we turn to the tools of death, then whatever hollow triumph we may trumpet, it will have been Death alone which has won. --G. Simon Harak, Jesuit Priest interviewed 9/21 in NY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing well, i 'give a flip', that's why i asked! of course we talk to the licensing rep, but I asked because: a) the licensing reps don't always sound entirely convincing b) the information on the MS site is ambiguous c) there's nothing about licensing in the FAQ d) i didn't think anyone would mind. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says.? Think through that statement again. When it comes to something like licensing, who gives a flip what anyone here says versus what MS says? We can't bust you for a license violation. And if you're not going to rely on it, why ask? Stephen -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Licensing Take it either way. I don't really care, but I'm not going to rely on this list to tell me how my licensing works for my company. nor would i. i might ask for some friendly advice though, and take that into consideration along with what MS and the vendor says. maybe i'm wrong, but your response seems paranoid and unhelfpful. that said, i'm sorry if I've offended you. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful
