RE: MDBDATA Log Files
> -Original Message- > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 16 January 2002 19:44 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but > I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. I checked my dictionary and I didn't find "takes backups before screwing with system" under paranoid. I did find it under clueful admin though. I can't help feeling that at least 40% of support calls/discussions on places like this would go away if more people did that. -- This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons or unauthorized employees of the intended organisations is strictly prohibited. The contents of this email do not necessarily represent the views or policies of Luton Sixth Form College, its employees or students. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
That doesn't stop me from wondering. I think my server would pass out from exhaustion. (Your post is another keeper, I'd say) William -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: MDBDATA Log Files The issue is not compressing; it is assumed this would be a lengthy job and would be done off-hours. The problem is with manipulating the compressed file. When a request to open a file is passed to NTFS and the file system finds that the file is compressed it will decompress as much of that file as possible into memory. This is all well and good if you're working on a Word document that will get some changes (usually to the end of the file) and be saved back to looked at another time for a total size of maybe a few megs. But for a 12G database that is constantly being read and written to at many different locations, and constantly, this unraveling of the compressed file will kill performance as the CPU gets maxed out uncompressing multiple locations of this file into memory(1). The disks get thrashed as well while the system asks for more and more free physical memory forcing page faults(2)(3). Overall, compressing a database file being accessed hundreds, of not thousands, of times a minute with a file size well beyond physical memory (if you're uncompressing the file into VM you're losing even more time) is just not a good idea. The log files, on the other hand, are a different story. Each one exists in memory being written to an address with a pre-allocated size of 5M(4). As that memory allocation is used up, the entire chunk is written to a file and the file handle is closed(5). Exchange will not read this file again except in certain circumstances(6) so once closed the file will stay closed. Thus one would think that compressing the log files would be a good move to save disk space. Or would it? Most organizations I know who do backups(7) do them nightly. Since this wipes the logs off the drive we need only look at some numbers for a single day's worth of transactions. Assume an organization that moves, say, ten thousand messages a day through a given server. Each message has an average size of 50K. Allowing 5% for overhead (which is a number I picked just to keep the numbers even) this yields an average of 1,075,253,760 or just a bit over 1gig. The NTFS encryption algorithm is relatively efficient(8) and will largely depend on the data being compressed (9) A file of nothing but 01010101 repeating over and over will compress wonderfully (10) but although it is possible for there to be blocks of such patterns overall the file's data structure will be complex and somewhat random. At best I'd say expect 30% compression. Even giving it the benefit of the doubt and saying 40% yields a diskspace savings of about 400M. And brother, if you're sweating 400M on your server, you need to add another drive to the array or increase your budget. (1) unless you have a server with 12G, that is (2) writing pages of memory to the swapfile (3) disk access is high overhead, reading the file into memory such that more disk access is forced doubles the overhead resulting in a noticeably performance hit (4) I don't know why 5M was chosen; I guess it was just as good as 4 or 6 megs (5) for the purists: the current edb.log file is renamed to edb and the new log file is named edb.log (6) all of them having to do with disaster recovery and, at that point, diskspaceis the least of your worries (7) ahem (8) it's a trade-off between efficiency and performance (9) if you are curious you may wish to run your own tests since each installation and deployment will have its own traffic flow characteristics (10) like PKZip the algorithm largely depends on repeating pattern substitution(11) (11) meaning the software attempts to find repeating pattersn of multiple subpatterns (12) and replace it with a single pattern (12) such as the word "the" which can be replaced with one character resulting in savings of 66.6%(13) (13) this is a purposely simple example to illustrate the mechanism(14) (14) Hi Sherry! - Original Message - From: "Lefkovics, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > I wonder how long it would take to compress say a 12GB priv.edb? > > William > > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:46 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: MDBDATA Log Files > > > compress log files, yes. compress databases, no. Just clarifying > > - Original Message - > From: "Lefkovics, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions"
Re: MDBDATA Log Files
The issue is not compressing; it is assumed this would be a lengthy job and would be done off-hours. The problem is with manipulating the compressed file. When a request to open a file is passed to NTFS and the file system finds that the file is compressed it will decompress as much of that file as possible into memory. This is all well and good if you're working on a Word document that will get some changes (usually to the end of the file) and be saved back to looked at another time for a total size of maybe a few megs. But for a 12G database that is constantly being read and written to at many different locations, and constantly, this unraveling of the compressed file will kill performance as the CPU gets maxed out uncompressing multiple locations of this file into memory(1). The disks get thrashed as well while the system asks for more and more free physical memory forcing page faults(2)(3). Overall, compressing a database file being accessed hundreds, of not thousands, of times a minute with a file size well beyond physical memory (if you're uncompressing the file into VM you're losing even more time) is just not a good idea. The log files, on the other hand, are a different story. Each one exists in memory being written to an address with a pre-allocated size of 5M(4). As that memory allocation is used up, the entire chunk is written to a file and the file handle is closed(5). Exchange will not read this file again except in certain circumstances(6) so once closed the file will stay closed. Thus one would think that compressing the log files would be a good move to save disk space. Or would it? Most organizations I know who do backups(7) do them nightly. Since this wipes the logs off the drive we need only look at some numbers for a single day's worth of transactions. Assume an organization that moves, say, ten thousand messages a day through a given server. Each message has an average size of 50K. Allowing 5% for overhead (which is a number I picked just to keep the numbers even) this yields an average of 1,075,253,760 or just a bit over 1gig. The NTFS encryption algorithm is relatively efficient(8) and will largely depend on the data being compressed (9) A file of nothing but 01010101 repeating over and over will compress wonderfully (10) but although it is possible for there to be blocks of such patterns overall the file's data structure will be complex and somewhat random. At best I'd say expect 30% compression. Even giving it the benefit of the doubt and saying 40% yields a diskspace savings of about 400M. And brother, if you're sweating 400M on your server, you need to add another drive to the array or increase your budget. (1) unless you have a server with 12G, that is (2) writing pages of memory to the swapfile (3) disk access is high overhead, reading the file into memory such that more disk access is forced doubles the overhead resulting in a noticeably performance hit (4) I don't know why 5M was chosen; I guess it was just as good as 4 or 6 megs (5) for the purists: the current edb.log file is renamed to edb and the new log file is named edb.log (6) all of them having to do with disaster recovery and, at that point, diskspaceis the least of your worries (7) ahem (8) it's a trade-off between efficiency and performance (9) if you are curious you may wish to run your own tests since each installation and deployment will have its own traffic flow characteristics (10) like PKZip the algorithm largely depends on repeating pattern substitution(11) (11) meaning the software attempts to find repeating pattersn of multiple subpatterns (12) and replace it with a single pattern (12) such as the word "the" which can be replaced with one character resulting in savings of 66.6%(13) (13) this is a purposely simple example to illustrate the mechanism(14) (14) Hi Sherry! - Original Message - From: "Lefkovics, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > I wonder how long it would take to compress say a 12GB priv.edb? > > William > > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:46 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: MDBDATA Log Files > > > compress log files, yes. compress databases, no. Just clarifying > > - Original Message - > From: "Lefkovics, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:00 PM > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > > You could, in an emergency, compress some of the log files with NTFS > > compression. They compress fairly well. > > > > This should not be the practice though. > >
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
So does an 'emergency'. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files That'll kill performance unless your server is very lightly loaded. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lefkovics, William Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files You could, in an emergency, compress some of the log files with NTFS compression. They compress fairly well. This should not be the practice though. William -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Thanks for the vote of confidence. I planned on using PerfWiz to make the move, circular logging is Not enabled and I schedule a full backup every night. I missed one day of backing up due to a failed tape causing the drive to fill. I don't have much room for error because of the small partition. Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
That'll kill performance unless your server is very lightly loaded. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lefkovics, William Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files You could, in an emergency, compress some of the log files with NTFS compression. They compress fairly well. This should not be the practice though. William -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Thanks for the vote of confidence. I planned on using PerfWiz to make the move, circular logging is Not enabled and I schedule a full backup every night. I missed one day of backing up due to a failed tape causing the drive to fill. I don't have much room for error because of the small partition. Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not us
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
I wonder how long it would take to compress say a 12GB priv.edb? William -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: MDBDATA Log Files compress log files, yes. compress databases, no. Just clarifying - Original Message - From: "Lefkovics, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > You could, in an emergency, compress some of the log files with NTFS > compression. They compress fairly well. > > This should not be the practice though. > > William > > > -Original Message- > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:02 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > Thanks for the vote of confidence. I planned on using PerfWiz to make the > move, circular logging is Not enabled and I schedule a full backup every > night. I missed one day of backing up due to a failed tape causing the > drive to fill. I don't have much room for error because of the small > partition. > > Thanks, > > Skip Taylor, MCSE > Network Administrator > Jordan, Jones, & Goulding > > > -Original Message- > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a > full backup before running perfwiz. > > -Original Message- > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when > perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to > the database anyways. > > But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the > logfiles until a good backup [2]. > > S. > > [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the > logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using > circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* > > -Original Message- > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. > Get a full backup done asap. Do it now > > -Original Message- > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not > get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for > these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just > did not know what was considered normal. > > Thanks to all who replied, > > Skip Taylor, MCSE > Network Administrator > Jordan, Jones, & Goulding > > > -Original Message- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! > > Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. > Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) > then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... > > William > > > -Original Message- > From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: MDBDATA Log Files > > > How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server > appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the > FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. > > Single Server > Exchange 5.5 SP 3 > NT 4.0 SP 5 > 550 users > > Is this normal? > Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? > Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? > > Thanks, > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MDBDATA Log Files
Each log if 5M in size. The logs will grow in that increment as messages are passed. What is normal for you may not be normal for someone else. Relaying does not create logs since the message does not pass through the store. - Original Message - From: "Skip Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:20 PM Subject: MDBDATA Log Files > How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange > server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I > searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. > > Single Server > Exchange 5.5 SP 3 > NT 4.0 SP 5 > 550 users > > Is this normal? > Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? > Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? > > Thanks, > > Skip Taylor, MCSE > Network Administrator > Jordan, Jones, & Goulding > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MDBDATA Log Files
compress log files, yes. compress databases, no. Just clarifying - Original Message - From: "Lefkovics, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > You could, in an emergency, compress some of the log files with NTFS > compression. They compress fairly well. > > This should not be the practice though. > > William > > > -Original Message- > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:02 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > Thanks for the vote of confidence. I planned on using PerfWiz to make the > move, circular logging is Not enabled and I schedule a full backup every > night. I missed one day of backing up due to a failed tape causing the > drive to fill. I don't have much room for error because of the small > partition. > > Thanks, > > Skip Taylor, MCSE > Network Administrator > Jordan, Jones, & Goulding > > > -Original Message- > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a > full backup before running perfwiz. > > -Original Message- > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when > perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to > the database anyways. > > But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the > logfiles until a good backup [2]. > > S. > > [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the > logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using > circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* > > -Original Message- > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. > Get a full backup done asap. Do it now > > -Original Message- > From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not > get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for > these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just > did not know what was considered normal. > > Thanks to all who replied, > > Skip Taylor, MCSE > Network Administrator > Jordan, Jones, & Goulding > > > -Original Message- > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! > > Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. > Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) > then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... > > William > > > -Original Message- > From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: MDBDATA Log Files > > > How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server > appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the > FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. > > Single Server > Exchange 5.5 SP 3 > NT 4.0 SP 5 > 550 users > > Is this normal? > Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? > Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? > > Thanks, > > Skip Taylor, MCSE > Network Administrator > Jordan, Jones, & Goulding > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
Aw shit, you guys have too much spare time. Get back to work and leave me alone in my curled up fetal position rocking backwards and forwards whilst I contemplate BOFH. -Original Message- From: Black, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 10:26 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files B[ad] Operator from H-E-double-toothpick ( is that politically correct?) The Register hosts a bunch of stories... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/index.html Nathan > -Original Message- > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:20 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > > Nathan! Quick quick! Explain BOFH! Nobody wants to agitate > a nazi bitch! > > :-) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > I must be paranoid and ignorant. What on earth is BOFH? I > can think of > several acronyms, but I couldn't kiss my mother if I repeated them. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Black, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 10:10 a.m. > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > Somebody has been reading to much BOFH lately. :) > > Nathan > > > -Original Message- > > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:19 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > > > > I prefer to be a nazi bitch and crank down mailbox sizes or block > > messages for people that piss me off. But your idea is > probably more > > career enhancing. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:17 a.m. > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > > > > > > The best way to deal with stress is to daydream about your > coworkers > > and baseball bats. > > > > S. > > NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named > recipient. It > may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or > the subject of > legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please > notify the > sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use > any information > contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you > have read this > e-mail. > > For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit > our web page > http://www.beca.co.nz > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
B[ad] Operator from H-E-double-toothpick ( is that politically correct?) The Register hosts a bunch of stories... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/index.html Nathan > -Original Message- > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:20 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > > Nathan! Quick quick! Explain BOFH! Nobody wants to agitate > a nazi bitch! > > :-) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > I must be paranoid and ignorant. What on earth is BOFH? I > can think of > several acronyms, but I couldn't kiss my mother if I repeated them. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Black, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 10:10 a.m. > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > Somebody has been reading to much BOFH lately. :) > > Nathan > > > -Original Message- > > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:19 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > > > > I prefer to be a nazi bitch and crank down mailbox sizes or block > > messages for people that piss me off. But your idea is > probably more > > career enhancing. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:17 a.m. > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > > > > > > The best way to deal with stress is to daydream about your > coworkers > > and baseball bats. > > > > S. > > NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named > recipient. It > may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or > the subject of > legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please > notify the > sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use > any information > contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you > have read this > e-mail. > > For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit > our web page > http://www.beca.co.nz > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
Nathan! Quick quick! Explain BOFH! Nobody wants to agitate a nazi bitch! :-) -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I must be paranoid and ignorant. What on earth is BOFH? I can think of several acronyms, but I couldn't kiss my mother if I repeated them. -Original Message- From: Black, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 10:10 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Somebody has been reading to much BOFH lately. :) Nathan > -Original Message- > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > I prefer to be a nazi bitch and crank down mailbox sizes or block > messages for people that piss me off. But your idea is probably more > career enhancing. > > -Original Message- > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:17 a.m. > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > > The best way to deal with stress is to daydream about your coworkers > and baseball bats. > > S. NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
I must be paranoid and ignorant. What on earth is BOFH? I can think of several acronyms, but I couldn't kiss my mother if I repeated them. -Original Message- From: Black, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 10:10 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Somebody has been reading to much BOFH lately. :) Nathan > -Original Message- > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > I prefer to be a nazi bitch and crank down mailbox sizes or > block messages > for people that piss me off. But your idea is probably more career > enhancing. > > -Original Message- > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:17 a.m. > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > > The best way to deal with stress is to daydream about your > coworkers and > baseball bats. > > S. NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
~ndi -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 January 2002 20:01 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files In which case, I am an outstanding admin. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:02 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files A paranoid admin is a good admin. S. -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To u
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
Somebody has been reading to much BOFH lately. :) Nathan > -Original Message- > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > I prefer to be a nazi bitch and crank down mailbox sizes or > block messages > for people that piss me off. But your idea is probably more career > enhancing. > > -Original Message- > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:17 a.m. > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > > The best way to deal with stress is to daydream about your > coworkers and > baseball bats. > > S. > > -Original Message- > From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files > > > Assume you mean the global 'they'. The worse thing is > paranoia seems to > grow exponentially with how much you learn about a system > which does little > to reduce stress, and therefore bad habits associated with > the reduction of > stress. . > > - > > NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named > recipient. It > may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or > the subject of > legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please > notify the > sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use > any information > contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you > have read this > e-mail. > > For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit > our web page > http://www.beca.co.nz > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
I've seen Michèle use this in other posts, not I kinda know what it means... ::shudder:: -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files You could, in an emergency, compress some of the log files with NTFS compression. They compress fairly well. This should not be the practice though. William -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Thanks for the vote of confidence. I planned on using PerfWiz to make the move, circular logging is Not enabled and I schedule a full backup every night. I missed one day of backing up due to a failed tape causing the drive to fill. I don't have much room for error because of the small partition. Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
Oh goodness A women after my own heart!! Thanks Russell -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I prefer to be a nazi bitch and crank down mailbox sizes or block messages for people that piss me off. But your idea is probably more career enhancing. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:17 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files The best way to deal with stress is to daydream about your coworkers and baseball bats. S. -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Assume you mean the global 'they'. The worse thing is paranoia seems to grow exponentially with how much you learn about a system which does little to reduce stress, and therefore bad habits associated with the reduction of stress. . - NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
There's always the Thorazine solution...retrofit the water supply where you work, so that it's constantly feeding a metered dose of liquid Thorazine to the user population. They won't care if they have e-mail problems! Do the Thorazine shuffle! -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files The best way to deal with stress is to daydream about your coworkers and baseball bats. S. -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Assume you mean the global 'they'. The worse thing is paranoia seems to grow exponentially with how much you learn about a system which does little to reduce stress, and therefore bad habits associated with the reduction of stress. . -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:05 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files You're only paranoid if they're not out to get you. We all know , of course, that they're all out to get you. ; ) Tom. -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or t
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
I prefer to be a nazi bitch and crank down mailbox sizes or block messages for people that piss me off. But your idea is probably more career enhancing. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:17 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files The best way to deal with stress is to daydream about your coworkers and baseball bats. S. -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Assume you mean the global 'they'. The worse thing is paranoia seems to grow exponentially with how much you learn about a system which does little to reduce stress, and therefore bad habits associated with the reduction of stress. . - NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
The best way to deal with stress is to daydream about your coworkers and baseball bats. S. -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Assume you mean the global 'they'. The worse thing is paranoia seems to grow exponentially with how much you learn about a system which does little to reduce stress, and therefore bad habits associated with the reduction of stress. . -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:05 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files You're only paranoid if they're not out to get you. We all know , of course, that they're all out to get you. ; ) Tom. -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://ww
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
Assume you mean the global 'they'. The worse thing is paranoia seems to grow exponentially with how much you learn about a system which does little to reduce stress, and therefore bad habits associated with the reduction of stress. . -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:05 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files You're only paranoid if they're not out to get you. We all know , of course, that they're all out to get you. ; ) Tom. -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
You're only paranoid if they're not out to get you. We all know , of course, that they're all out to get you. ; ) Tom. -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
You could, in an emergency, compress some of the log files with NTFS compression. They compress fairly well. This should not be the practice though. William -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Thanks for the vote of confidence. I planned on using PerfWiz to make the move, circular logging is Not enabled and I schedule a full backup every night. I missed one day of backing up due to a failed tape causing the drive to fill. I don't have much room for error because of the small partition. Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
In which case, I am an outstanding admin. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:02 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files A paranoid admin is a good admin. S. -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may cont
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
A paranoid admin is a good admin. S. -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information co
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
Thanks for the vote of confidence. I planned on using PerfWiz to make the move, circular logging is Not enabled and I schedule a full backup every night. I missed one day of backing up due to a failed tape causing the drive to fill. I don't have much room for error because of the small partition. Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
Good point. I forgot about perfwiz. Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a full backup before running perfwiz. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1]. Especially since when perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to the database anyways. But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order. I don't recommend deleting the logfiles until a good backup [2]. S. [1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP* -Original Message- From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
It is *probably* normal. Possibly not though. Do not 'move' them. Do another online backup. William -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
I wouldn't move them. Exchange expects to find them in the place they are. Get a full backup done asap. Do it now -Original Message- From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. For further information on the Beca Group of Companies, visit our web page http://www.beca.co.nz _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not get deleted and the server came to a halt. I only have a 2gb partition for these files. I'll see about moving them to a different partition. I just did not know what was considered normal. Thanks to all who replied, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files 5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
5-10 minutes? That's terrible! It should be every 12 minutes! Those are transaction logs. They are created as email traffic is created. Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the one!) then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that... William -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MDBDATA Log Files
As often as necessary. They'll keep growing until you do a successful backup, at which point they will be purged. Everything that your users do gets written to the log files and then gets committed to the database. So, your users are generating 5 MB worth of changes every 5 to 10 minutes. As for your other questions, here are the answers: 1. Probably. 2. If this is abnormal behavior, possibly. 3. You can start by looking at your tracking logs. 4. I don't think so. 5. Read the FAQ. S. -Original Message- From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MDBDATA Log Files How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files? Our Exchange server appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes. I searched the FAQs and Archives but did find an answer. Here's our system. Single Server Exchange 5.5 SP 3 NT 4.0 SP 5 550 users Is this normal? Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it? Is some one relaying mail off my server? If so how can I stop it? Thanks, Skip Taylor, MCSE Network Administrator Jordan, Jones, & Goulding _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
