RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
I've used both Palm Based, Palm VIIx, Palm i705, Kyocera 6135 and Pocket PC 2002 to access wireless email. I have not used BlackBerry yet although I have heard good things about it. So far, I really like the Kyocera model which feels like a phone, but it's a Palm with Wireless capability. It also has 14.4Kbps for now, but they are coming out with the new model 7135 which may have up to 56kbps with color screen. On the backend, I use software called ThinAirApps Enterprise server to allow Palm based devices to access email, calendar, contacts and tasks. ThinAirApps was purchased by Palm last year I believe. MS MIS requires AD so if you don't AD, it's out of the question for now. My two cents... Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pennell, Ronald B. Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
We are looking at implementing MS MIS. Has anybody done it? Any good or bad experiences to share? I would love some feedback on it. - Matthew Bailey - -Original Message- From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes snip MS MIS requires AD so if you don't AD, it's out of the question for now. My two cents... Brian snip _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
Dell Axim for $174. http://slickdeals.net/#p2797 I was sending email via OWA with it at the handson lab at Comdex. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Ko Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 7:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions I've used both Palm Based, Palm VIIx, Palm i705, Kyocera 6135 and Pocket PC 2002 to access wireless email. I have not used BlackBerry yet although I have heard good things about it. So far, I really like the Kyocera model which feels like a phone, but it's a Palm with Wireless capability. It also has 14.4Kbps for now, but they are coming out with the new model 7135 which may have up to 56kbps with color screen. On the backend, I use software called ThinAirApps Enterprise server to allow Palm based devices to access email, calendar, contacts and tasks. ThinAirApps was purchased by Palm last year I believe. MS MIS requires AD so if you don't AD, it's out of the question for now. My two cents... Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pennell, Ronald B. Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
I know that Cardinal Health tried implementing it and then abandoned it and went with a BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server). It must have been bad, because they really really wanted a Microsoft solution (even though the MIS product was really developed by Wireless Knowledge... We are looking at implementing MS MIS. Has anybody done it? Any good or bad experiences to share? I would love some feedback on it. - Matthew Bailey - -Original Message- From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes snip MS MIS requires AD so if you don't AD, it's out of the question for now. My two cents... Brian snip _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
Plus I'm told you can throw a Blackberry against the wall with no ill effects. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions I know that Cardinal Health tried implementing it and then abandoned it and went with a BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server). It must have been bad, because they really really wanted a Microsoft solution (even though the MIS product was really developed by Wireless Knowledge... We are looking at implementing MS MIS. Has anybody done it? Any good or bad experiences to share? I would love some feedback on it. - Matthew Bailey - -Original Message- From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes snip MS MIS requires AD so if you don't AD, it's out of the question for now. My two cents... Brian snip __ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
Except for a rather annoying and stubborn stain. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Plus I'm told you can throw a Blackberry against the wall with no ill effects. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions I know that Cardinal Health tried implementing it and then abandoned it and went with a BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server). It must have been bad, because they really really wanted a Microsoft solution (even though the MIS product was really developed by Wireless Knowledge... We are looking at implementing MS MIS. Has anybody done it? Any good or bad experiences to share? I would love some feedback on it. - Matthew Bailey - -Original Message- From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes snip MS MIS requires AD so if you don't AD, it's out of the question for now. My two cents... Brian snip __ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
http://blackberry.net/products/software/server/index.shtml Best way to go. Less hassle for the users. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pennell, Ronald B. Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:33 To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
Microsoft has something called the 'Mobile Internet Server' or something to that effect. I believe it's made for access to mailboxes via Handhelds and Mobile Phones. The site used to be loaded with marketing crap so I couldn't find any hard facts. We don't officially support PDAs, but I (and a few others) use a PocketPC 2002 based Compaq set up to sync to my Outlook, and that works OK. I use it mostly for Tasks and Calender items, which work fine. We've had a few problems with e-mail formatting though. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2002 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
Beware of blackberry. Don't know about the situation in the states, but in Europe the GSM provider must specifically support blackberry (ie. Not any GSM provider with GPRS support). -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2002 4:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes http://blackberry.net/products/software/server/index.shtml Best way to go. Less hassle for the users. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pennell, Ronald B. Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:33 To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
For pure Exchange connectivity options, Blackberry is really the only player in town, and they are wonderful as long as they work in your area. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
We only have a few PocketPC users, but we have had good success with the OWA for PDA at http://www.leederbyshire.com. It works especially well if the users have wireless Internet access, but our users also can access it via dial-up on their PocketPC. Chuck -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
As part of the research (part of the very early on research IMO) I'd recommend getting groups of likely users together for brief meetings (brown bag lunches possibly) where they could provide a list of features they'd like to have in using a PDA. Then work with them to prioritize the list and use that in evaluating solutions. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
We are in a trial period with blackberry on the O2 (BT cellnet) network - it's working very well. -Original Message- From: Andrea Coppini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2002 15:43 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Beware of blackberry. Don't know about the situation in the states, but in Europe the GSM provider must specifically support blackberry (ie. Not any GSM provider with GPRS support). -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2002 4:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes http://blackberry.net/products/software/server/index.shtml Best way to go. Less hassle for the users. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pennell, Ronald B. Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:33 To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
The blackberry 957...with the GOOD software is Sweet!!! full OL capability (ok no GAL surfing yet, and drafts dont sync..but everything else does) It Rocks! If you want full OL/exchange integration then get the GOOD software. The blackberry server software as of yet does NOT do full integration with Exchange (e-mail and some calendar only) Not GOOD at this time is available in the US and canada only...thought I know it happend to work in brazil...but it was a weird fluke.. bill -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes We are in a trial period with blackberry on the O2 (BT cellnet) network - it's working very well. -Original Message- From: Andrea Coppini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2002 15:43 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Beware of blackberry. Don't know about the situation in the states, but in Europe the GSM provider must specifically support blackberry (ie. Not any GSM provider with GPRS support). -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2002 4:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes http://blackberry.net/products/software/server/index.shtml Best way to go. Less hassle for the users. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pennell, Ronald B. Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:33 To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
I use my Blackberry all the time and it works great. In fact, I'm not sure how I would live without it. We also have some people that use Palm's via POP to gain access to messages. In my opinion, if you want the least amount of hassles and a solution that can scale, Blackberry is tough to beat. But, then again, I'm probably biased because I have used one for so long. From an objective stand-point, there is really no other solution on the market that you can purchase off-the-shelf that presents an end-to-end solution like the Blackberry. Anyone can feel free to disagree with me on this point, but I have not seen it, not from Wireless Knowledge, not from Microsoft or anyone else. That is NOT to say that Blackberry is the right solution for everyone. But it is by far one of the better, if not the best SOLUTION on the market in this space. Most other companies sell TOOLS that can help address the issue of PDA access but Blackberry (RIM) sells a real solution. Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. =20 Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell=20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
We have tested MS MIS and it worked pretty well. -Original Message- From: Andrea Coppini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Microsoft has something called the 'Mobile Internet Server' or something to that effect. I believe it's made for access to mailboxes via Handhelds and Mobile Phones. The site used to be loaded with marketing crap so I couldn't find any hard facts. We don't officially support PDAs, but I (and a few others) use a PocketPC 2002 based Compaq set up to sync to my Outlook, and that works OK. I use it mostly for Tasks and Calender items, which work fine. We've had a few problems with e-mail formatting though. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2002 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
We are considering MS MIS. Is there anything you don't like about it? Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes We have tested MS MIS and it worked pretty well. -Original Message- From: Andrea Coppini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Microsoft has something called the 'Mobile Internet Server' or something to that effect. I believe it's made for access to mailboxes via Handhelds and Mobile Phones. The site used to be loaded with marketing crap so I couldn't find any hard facts. We don't officially support PDAs, but I (and a few others) use a PocketPC 2002 based Compaq set up to sync to my Outlook, and that works OK. I use it mostly for Tasks and Calender items, which work fine. We've had a few problems with e-mail formatting though. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2002 4:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, at 12:26pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also have some people that use Palm's via POP to gain access to messages. Anyone here using IMAP to access Exchange from a handheld? I'm seeing increasing numbers of handheld devices and/or software for them that support IMAP. I'm not saying the Blackberry isn't a great product, but if you've already got a handheld, why buy another piece of equipment if you don't have to? Just curious. -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
You'd survive just fine without it. If by 'least amount of hassles' you mean 'if you have an additional $400 per user to throw away'. After seeing PocketPC handle messaging with POP, IMAP and OWA to Exchange, I really can't see the value of a Backberry anymore IF you have other PDA's in place. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions I use my Blackberry all the time and it works great. In fact, I'm not sure how I would live without it. We also have some people that use Palm's via POP to gain access to messages. In my opinion, if you want the least amount of hassles and a solution that can scale, Blackberry is tough to beat. But, then again, I'm probably biased because I have used one for so long. From an objective stand-point, there is really no other solution on the market that you can purchase off-the-shelf that presents an end-to-end solution like the Blackberry. Anyone can feel free to disagree with me on this point, but I have not seen it, not from Wireless Knowledge, not from Microsoft or anyone else. That is NOT to say that Blackberry is the right solution for everyone. But it is by far one of the better, if not the best SOLUTION on the market in this space. Most other companies sell TOOLS that can help address the issue of PDA access but Blackberry (RIM) sells a real solution. Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. =20 Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell=20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
As you can see, like most technologies, PDA's are surrounded by lots of opinions. Often people like what they have used, even if it is only one type and have no real basis for a comparison (i.e. valid opinion). Ok, the ugly truth: None of the systems out there are very good yet. You've heard the positives for Blackberry and PocketPC's. Palm devices and the various phone/PDA combinations have their benefits as well. Everyone of them costs too much for what they do, and have some major design flaws. Also, the carrier based services are designed to try and nudge subscriber billings upward, as opposed to delivering desired services. In my view, the right thing to do is to design a target remote access architecture for your network and then fit your Exchange system into it, along with your other key services. Portals are popular, but lots of people are doing terrible portal designs. The current fad is for a PHB committee to form a portal team or project and b figure out what a community should see. They virtually never ask the users what they need, and they never do quality checks by metering the usage and measuring what is working or not. Finding a decent portal implementation is like looking for a single marble in the sand at Fort Lauderdale beach. Portal stupidity is the current hallmark of CIO resumes. Ideally, you would link Exchange to your portal, and then your PDA would hit it from the other side and give you both on-line functionality and optional synchronization services. However, I have yet to see a portal that does synching, and the PocketPC, which ought to be better at this, is still saddled with its ridiculous PC Companion paradigm, which assumes that you want to talk to your desktop PC, and not the servers directly, even though that is a security violation in most enterprises if it is done remotely. There is some good news, but it is out a ways. The next generation of PocketPC devices that start appearing next summer should be a lot better, and address some of their current short comings. I believe that just as soon as a really good combination of tools is available, that it will be so compelling that everything else will have to quickly conform or disappear from the market. But alas, that is not this year. Sorry. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
I'm waiting until there's a system that will zap the mail directly into my brain without any stupid belt-hung device. I don't receive much of anything but Spam anyway. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Technical Consultant hp Services There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes As you can see, like most technologies, PDA's are surrounded by lots of opinions. Often people like what they have used, even if it is only one type and have no real basis for a comparison (i.e. valid opinion). Ok, the ugly truth: None of the systems out there are very good yet. You've heard the positives for Blackberry and PocketPC's. Palm devices and the various phone/PDA combinations have their benefits as well. Everyone of them costs too much for what they do, and have some major design flaws. Also, the carrier based services are designed to try and nudge subscriber billings upward, as opposed to delivering desired services. In my view, the right thing to do is to design a target remote access architecture for your network and then fit your Exchange system into it, along with your other key services. Portals are popular, but lots of people are doing terrible portal designs. The current fad is for a PHB committee to form a portal team or project and b figure out what a community should see. They virtually never ask the users what they need, and they never do quality checks by metering the usage and measuring what is working or not. Finding a decent portal implementation is like looking for a single marble in the sand at Fort Lauderdale beach. Portal stupidity is the current hallmark of CIO resumes. Ideally, you would link Exchange to your portal, and then your PDA would hit it from the other side and give you both on-line functionality and optional synchronization services. However, I have yet to see a portal that does synching, and the PocketPC, which ought to be better at this, is still saddled with its ridiculous PC Companion paradigm, which assumes that you want to talk to your desktop PC, and not the servers directly, even though that is a security violation in most enterprises if it is done remotely. There is some good news, but it is out a ways. The next generation of PocketPC devices that start appearing next summer should be a lot better, and address some of their current short comings. I believe that just as soon as a really good combination of tools is available, that it will be so compelling that everything else will have to quickly conform or disappear from the market. But alas, that is not this year. Sorry. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
