RE: Routing
Hi, A question into your answer. How to do a ALL-domain route instead of per-domain route? Thanks -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing If your BT connection has an address space of *, and you enter a per-domain route of, say, hotmail.com, then any messages to hotmail.com will go via the new route since the address space is a more explicit match than just *. Neil -Original Message- From: Darren Ash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 10 July 2002 15:41 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing Subject: RE: Routing Will this stop it going out over the BT connection ??? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 July 2002 11:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing On the IMS, go to the Connections tab and look in the specify by email domain area. You can set up per-domain routing, e.g. add in your other domain and configure message delivery to the IP address of the POP3 system. Neil -Original Message- From: Darren Ash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 10 July 2002 08:05 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing Subject: Routing Lets see if anyone can answer this one today ... I'll try and put as much info as possible this time Site 1 : Exchange 5.5 SP4 NT4 SP6a Site 2 : POP3 Mail system Scenario : Site 2 now owns Site 1 and we have set up various custom recipients to forward mail around. However all the mail leaving Site 1 currently goes out over our BT ISDN connection. How do I make all mail destined for Site 2 use the fixed line we have in place between the 2 sites and not go over the ISDN connection. Looking around in Exchange admin I have routing tab on the IMS set for all messages sent to Site1.com route to inbound. Is it just a case of adding a routing entry here for Site2.com routing to Site2. If so how do i address site2 (DNS,IP etc ) Pls help as I need this sorted ASAP. Regards Darren Coolchain LtdCoolchain Ltd London Road Henley Road Teynham Paddock Wood Kent Kent ME9 9PR TN12 6DN Tel: 01795 523200Tel: 01892 831400 Fax: 01795 523241Fax: 01892 831451 All business is conducted in accordance with the company's terms and conditions, a copy of which is available on request. For the avoidance of doubt, all orders initiated by ourselves must be signed by an authorised signatory of this company. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Coolchain LtdCoolchain Ltd London Road Henley Road Teynham Paddock Wood Kent Kent ME9 9PR TN12 6DN Tel: 01795 523200Tel: 01892 831400 Fax: 01795 523241Fax: 01892 831451 All business is conducted in accordance with the company's terms and conditions, a copy of which is available on request. For the avoidance of doubt, all orders initiated by ourselves must be signed by an authorised signatory of this company. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto
RE: Routing Goups query
All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself). -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Postmaster question Subject: Routing Goups query I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install. Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group. I do not want to use routing groups. I only have one sever. Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option? If I have to reinstall, so be it. But I would rather not. Thanks ahead of time. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question Go to Servers- your server - Protocols - SMTP - Default SMTP server. Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the box that says Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts put in the address you wish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J. Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Postmaster question Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing Goups query
You have to have at least one routing group. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:59 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Postmaster question Subject: Routing Goups query I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install. Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group. I do not want to use routing groups. I only have one sever. Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option? If I have to reinstall, so be it. But I would rather not. Thanks ahead of time. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question Go to Servers- your server - Protocols - SMTP - Default SMTP server. Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the box that says Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts put in the address you wish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J. Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Postmaster question Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing Goups query
I only have one exchange server here at work, yet I do not have routing groups. At least under the first admin group. I have: servers, connectors, and folders At home I have: Servers, routing groups, and folders. Is this anywhere close to why I cannot send mail with the home system? John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself). -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Postmaster question Subject: Routing Goups query I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install. Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group. I do not want to use routing groups. I only have one sever. Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option? If I have to reinstall, so be it. But I would rather not. Thanks ahead of time. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question Go to Servers- your server - Protocols - SMTP - Default SMTP server. Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the box that says Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts put in the address you wish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J. Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Postmaster question Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface
RE: Routing Goups query
Go to the properties of the organization (the top-most item in the ESM's left pane) and change the settings to not display admin groups and routing groups. But why do you hate seeing the routing groups so much anyway? Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query I only have one exchange server here at work, yet I do not have routing groups. At least under the first admin group. I have: servers, connectors, and folders At home I have: Servers, routing groups, and folders. Is this anywhere close to why I cannot send mail with the home system? John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself). -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Postmaster question Subject: Routing Goups query I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install. Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group. I do not want to use routing groups. I only have one sever. Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option? If I have to reinstall, so be it. But I would rather not. Thanks ahead of time. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question Go to Servers- your server - Protocols - SMTP - Default SMTP server. Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the box that says Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts put in the address you wish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J. Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Postmaster question Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Routing Goups query
It's not that. I cannot send any mail out from the box. and the only difference I see between the non working server, and the working server is that the non working server has routing groups whereas the working one has connectors. That is why I was looking at the routing groups issue. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query Go to the properties of the organization (the top-most item in the ESM's left pane) and change the settings to not display admin groups and routing groups. But why do you hate seeing the routing groups so much anyway? Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query I only have one exchange server here at work, yet I do not have routing groups. At least under the first admin group. I have: servers, connectors, and folders At home I have: Servers, routing groups, and folders. Is this anywhere close to why I cannot send mail with the home system? John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself). -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Postmaster question Subject: Routing Goups query I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install. Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group. I do not want to use routing groups. I only have one sever. Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option? If I have to reinstall, so be it. But I would rather not. Thanks ahead of time. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question Go to Servers- your server - Protocols - SMTP - Default SMTP server. Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the box that says Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts put in the address you wish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J. Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Postmaster question Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Routing Goups query
You are focusing on a wrong issue. Don't get obsessed with routing groups. The real issue is most likely with DNS. Is your Exchange server registered with Active Directory's DNS? Is your DNS using root hints or forwarders to some other DNS servers? Does your DNS have a DOT zone (zone name looks like a single dot .)? If you got the DOT zone, you will have to remove it, otherwise your DNS thinks that it is the top of the world. From your exchange server, can you do NSLOOKUP and correctly resolve the MX records of the Internet domain names to which you are trying to send mail? Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query It's not that. I cannot send any mail out from the box. and the only difference I see between the non working server, and the working server is that the non working server has routing groups whereas the working one has connectors. That is why I was looking at the routing groups issue. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query Go to the properties of the organization (the top-most item in the ESM's left pane) and change the settings to not display admin groups and routing groups. But why do you hate seeing the routing groups so much anyway? Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query I only have one exchange server here at work, yet I do not have routing groups. At least under the first admin group. I have: servers, connectors, and folders At home I have: Servers, routing groups, and folders. Is this anywhere close to why I cannot send mail with the home system? John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself). -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Postmaster question Subject: Routing Goups query I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install. Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group. I do not want to use routing groups. I only have one sever. Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option? If I have to reinstall, so be it. But I would rather not. Thanks ahead of time. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question Go to Servers- your server - Protocols - SMTP - Default SMTP server. Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the box that says Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts put in the address you wish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J. Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Postmaster question Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything to postmaster. Where
RE: Routing Goups query
If you can't send from the box, try running WinRoute and see information that provides... Thanks Russell -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query It's not that. I cannot send any mail out from the box. and the only difference I see between the non working server, and the working server is that the non working server has routing groups whereas the working one has connectors. That is why I was looking at the routing groups issue. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query Go to the properties of the organization (the top-most item in the ESM's left pane) and change the settings to not display admin groups and routing groups. But why do you hate seeing the routing groups so much anyway? Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query I only have one exchange server here at work, yet I do not have routing groups. At least under the first admin group. I have: servers, connectors, and folders At home I have: Servers, routing groups, and folders. Is this anywhere close to why I cannot send mail with the home system? John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing Goups query All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself). -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Postmaster question Subject: Routing Goups query I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install. Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group. I do not want to use routing groups. I only have one sever. Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option? If I have to reinstall, so be it. But I would rather not. Thanks ahead of time. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Digital Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question Go to Servers- your server - Protocols - SMTP - Default SMTP server. Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the box that says Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts put in the address you wish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J. Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Postmaster question Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List
RE: routing issue in a mixed environment
Check for duplicate smtp addresses. I have seen this in our mixed environment. I have to occassionally search for duplicates and modify the offending mailbox/pf. Also check that you have the correct email address for the pf. I have caught more than one typo causing this error. Nate -- From: Fyodorov, Andrey Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: routing issue in a mixed environment Hi all. Just an interesting observation I'd like to share (I have already found a way to fix the problem) We have a mixed 5.5/2000 environment and are in the process of migrating. All the public folders have been migrated and now reside on a 2000 public folder server Some users are still on 5.5 The IMC connectors are still on 5.5 servers (I didn't do it :) it was like this before I started here and there is a change management process to put a 2000 SMTP connector in place soon). The 5.5 IMC connectors are in a separate 5.5 site from the site that contains the mix of 5.5 and 2000 servers, and there is a site connector between sites. There is a public folder that is set up to forward a copy of all mail to a custom recipient (set up in the Exchange General/Delivery properties of the PF, NOT a rule) Here is what I was observing: When a 5.5 user sends mail to this public folder he gets back an NDR. It looks like the NDR comes from one of the 2000 servers. Sometimes the NDR says 5.7.1 Unable to relay to [external SMTP address], sometimes it just says Unable to deliver the message due to a recipient problem. Since the public folder only has a replica on a 2000 server, the message is first routed from the user's 5.5 home server to the 5.5 bridgehead server, then via the site connector to the mixed site where it eventually enters the 2000 world. There it gets split and a 2000 server tries to forward a copy to the external SMTP address. In order to do that, Exchange 2000 needs to submit the message to the MTA and shove it back to the Exchange 5.5 world (because the IMCs are only on Exchange 5.5). That's where Exchange 2000 freaks out and sometimes thinks that this is a relay situation or recipient problem. P.S. the fix was to make a replica of that public folder on one of the Exchange 5.5 servers. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=la ng=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: routing issue in a mixed environment
thanks this place does have some dup SMTP addresses in the AD, but not anywhere near the PF or the external contact objects... and all the addresses are correct -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: routing issue in a mixed environment Check for duplicate smtp addresses. I have seen this in our mixed environment. I have to occassionally search for duplicates and modify the offending mailbox/pf. Also check that you have the correct email address for the pf. I have caught more than one typo causing this error. Nate -- From: Fyodorov, Andrey Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: routing issue in a mixed environment Hi all. Just an interesting observation I'd like to share (I have already found a way to fix the problem) We have a mixed 5.5/2000 environment and are in the process of migrating. All the public folders have been migrated and now reside on a 2000 public folder server Some users are still on 5.5 The IMC connectors are still on 5.5 servers (I didn't do it :) it was like this before I started here and there is a change management process to put a 2000 SMTP connector in place soon). The 5.5 IMC connectors are in a separate 5.5 site from the site that contains the mix of 5.5 and 2000 servers, and there is a site connector between sites. There is a public folder that is set up to forward a copy of all mail to a custom recipient (set up in the Exchange General/Delivery properties of the PF, NOT a rule) Here is what I was observing: When a 5.5 user sends mail to this public folder he gets back an NDR. It looks like the NDR comes from one of the 2000 servers. Sometimes the NDR says 5.7.1 Unable to relay to [external SMTP address], sometimes it just says Unable to deliver the message due to a recipient problem. Since the public folder only has a replica on a 2000 server, the message is first routed from the user's 5.5 home server to the 5.5 bridgehead server, then via the site connector to the mixed site where it eventually enters the 2000 world. There it gets split and a 2000 server tries to forward a copy to the external SMTP address. In order to do that, Exchange 2000 needs to submit the message to the MTA and shove it back to the Exchange 5.5 world (because the IMCs are only on Exchange 5.5). That's where Exchange 2000 freaks out and sometimes thinks that this is a relay situation or recipient problem. P.S. the fix was to make a replica of that public folder on one of the Exchange 5.5 servers. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=la ng=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: routing mail accross vpn link
On the IMS you can specify routing by domain... For the domain(s) in question you would specify an IP address which the VPN link would know how to route to the appropriate endpoint. We did this several times with customers when I worked for $vbc. -Original Message- From: MSX dude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:55 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: routing mail accross vpn link Subject: routing mail accross vpn link Instead of doing certificates to secure mail one of our partners would like to simply route mail accross our shared VPN link. We run Exchange 5.5 sp3. Do any of you have any experience with this? How would I set up the mail for domain to avoid going out to the internet and route to the vpn link? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: routing mail accross vpn link
This doesn't have to be done on Exchange Server at all. If they don't use NAT, then all you need to do is route their MX servers on your Router/Firewall/VPN end point to route the traffic through the tunnel. If they do use NAT, they you probably have to set up host files on your exchnage server to indicate the appropriate mx server addresses. Either way, it's probably best to deny the access to those addresses from your outgoing border routers to ensure that no mail went through that way. Andrew MCSE (w2k/nt4) + CCNA -Original Message- From: MSX dude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM Posted To: ExchangeDiscussion Conversation: routing mail accross vpn link Subject: routing mail accross vpn link Instead of doing certificates to secure mail one of our partners would like to simply route mail accross our shared VPN link. We run Exchange 5.5 sp3. Do any of you have any experience with this? How would I set up the mail for domain to avoid going out to the internet and route to the vpn link? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the recipient. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute, copy or alter this email. All messages are processed to reduce SPAM and Viruses _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing Calculation Server
Mix mode environment, one 5.5 server (first server in site) and two E2K systems. When performing the steps below I only get one server listed in the drop down box. Why? Is there anyway around this? MORE INFORMATION Changing the Routing Calculation Server The routing calculation server is defined on the Site Addressing object for each site. If you fail to define a new server after deleting the routing calculation server, Exchange will automatically discover the problem and select another server, but this may take several hours or longer. In the meantime, routing information may become out of date. To change the Routing Calculation Server: Start Microsoft Exchange Administrator. Expand the Configuration object of the site, and then click to select the Site Addressing object. * -- On the General page, click to select a new Routing Calculation Server from those available in the drop down list. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing Calculation Server
Why does the E2K system still deliver outbound messages (external domains) to the E 5.5 system through MTA? I changed the routing claculation sever to the E2K box. Do I Need to delete the connectors on the 5.5 system or Choose a server in the site to be the new routing calculation server? - John Q Jr. Original Message Mix mode environment, one 5.5 server (first server in site) and two E2K systems. When performing the steps below I only get one server listed in the drop down box. Why? Is there anyway around this? MORE INFORMATION Changing the Routing Calculation Server The routing calculation server is defined on the Site Addressing object for each site. If you fail to define a new server after deleting the routing calculation server, Exchange will automatically discover the problem and select another server, but this may take several hours or longer. In the meantime, routing information may become out of date. To change the Routing Calculation Server: Start Microsoft Exchange Administrator. Expand the Configuration object of the site, and then click to select the Site Addressing object. * -- On the General page, click to select a new Routing Calculation Server from those available in the drop down list. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing Problem Xch 5.5 / E2K / X.400
Still not sure why the X.400 connector was used and why the messages where sent to the server in the same routing group but we added SMTP domain names of the domains we want to go through the X.400 connector and that got us working. Still trying to figure out it didn't work normally. regards Uso - Original Message - From: Uso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: Routing Problem Xch 5.5 / E2K / X.400 I have Xch 5.5 (adg-abd-serv1) and added now an Xhg 2000 (adg-abd-xch) server for migration. adg-abd-serv1 used to send mail via x.400 to another xch 5.5 (admsgsrv1). I configured a x.400 connector between adg-abd-xch and admsgsrv1 and removed the old x.400 connector between adg-abd-serv1 and admsgsrv1. Now when I send email to an x.400 contact the mail goes out to adg-abd-serv1 (it's in the same routing group as the new exchange 2000 server) instead of going through the X.400 connector. I then receive email NDR like: The e-mail address could not be found. Perhaps the recipient moved to a different e-mail organization, or there was a mistake in the address. Check the address and try again.The MTS-ID of the original message is... Why is the x.400 connector not used? When I freeze the queue I can see the message in the queue going to adg-abd-serv1 and I can see that it has an X.400 address of my contact showing it's location in my org and not the x.400 showing the destination org. Any help is appreciate. regards USO _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
Why not just use Blat, postie etc on the remote machines? - Original Message - From: Jerry J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:32 AM Subject: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5 Have an interesting problem. Currently have our exchange server locked down so that no one can route mail from outside the internal network. Now we are setting up remote monitoring PC's that are using the internet to send alerts. But obviously that will not work since they are outside the internal network. Inputting IP info for each machine is not desired as there are over 300 machines that will be doing this and their addresses may change. Looking for a means that these computers can authenticate to the server. This is something that can be inserted into the code of the software sending alerts. But I am not seeing a sure fire way to accomplish this. So to sum it up, exchange server is locked down so no system outside the internal network can route mail. Need to find a way that certain systems that are outside the internal network can route mail thru our server using some sort or authentication that is hard coded into our software. Or any other means that anyone can think of. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
A few ways I can think of: 1. On the same page where one can put in allowed IP addresses you can add only clients that authenticate. This, however, would require any POP/IMAP clients using these servers to have to change their settings. 2. If it is a static set of addresses that are otherwise external to your org add the domain(s) of those addresses to your routing tab as inbound and have CRs that reroute to the address. 3. If the external machines have IPs that all reside in the same subnet, one that you do not control, have the person who controls that subnet (who would most likely by your ISP and who would likely have an SMTP server) if they can route through his box. I suppose I could come up with some more solutions if I knew the details of what these boxes are doing, who they are sending to, etc. -Original Message- From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5 Have an interesting problem. Currently have our exchange server locked down so that no one can route mail from outside the internal network. Now we are setting up remote monitoring PC's that are using the internet to send alerts. But obviously that will not work since they are outside the internal network. Inputting IP info for each machine is not desired as there are over 300 machines that will be doing this and their addresses may change. Looking for a means that these computers can authenticate to the server. This is something that can be inserted into the code of the software sending alerts. But I am not seeing a sure fire way to accomplish this. So to sum it up, exchange server is locked down so no system outside the internal network can route mail. Need to find a way that certain systems that are outside the internal network can route mail thru our server using some sort or authentication that is hard coded into our software. Or any other means that anyone can think of. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
Have the remote monitoring machines utilize SMTP AUTH or put a basic SMTP server on the machines doing the monitoring so they can route mail on their own. -Original Message- From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Have an interesting problem. Currently have our exchange server locked down so that no one can route mail from outside the internal network. Now we are setting up remote monitoring PC's that are using the internet to send alerts. But obviously that will not work since they are outside the internal network. Inputting IP info for each machine is not desired as there are over 300 machines that will be doing this and their addresses may change. Looking for a means that these computers can authenticate to the server. This is something that can be inserted into the code of the software sending alerts. But I am not seeing a sure fire way to accomplish this. So to sum it up, exchange server is locked down so no system outside the internal network can route mail. Need to find a way that certain systems that are outside the internal network can route mail thru our server using some sort or authentication that is hard coded into our software. Or any other means that anyone can think of. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
We do not need an application on the remote machines for sending the e-mail alerts. Looking for a means of allowing these machines that are on various other networks around the country to be able to relay thru our mail server without being an open relay. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
Oversnipped so I have no idea what you are responding to. -Original Message- From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions We do not need an application on the remote machines for sending the e-mail alerts. Looking for a means of allowing these machines that are on various other networks around the country to be able to relay thru our mail server without being an open relay. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
I think you'll have to figure out how to make these machines authenticate, or use a VPN. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Technical Consultant hp Services There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jerry J. Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 6:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5 We do not need an application on the remote machines for sending the e-mail alerts. Looking for a means of allowing these machines that are on various other networks around the country to be able to relay thru our mail server without being an open relay. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
My apologies. Had to walk away before sending message. This was to the first response about using Blat from Andy. We have full capabilities to send the e-mails. I put the smpt server on the local machine out and the programmers do not think that will be feasible due to the many variables involved at each site. (their words exactly) So it looks like I am stuck with trying to resolve this on the exchange server with something that they can hard code into our remote software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
Oversnipped again, but SMTP AUTH seems to meet the desired objective of the original query. -Original Message- From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions My apologies. Had to walk away before sending message. This was to the first response about using Blat from Andy. We have full capabilities to send the e-mails. I put the smpt server on the local machine out and the programmers do not think that will be feasible due to the many variables involved at each site. (their words exactly) So it looks like I am stuck with trying to resolve this on the exchange server with something that they can hard code into our remote software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
Thanks Chris, I do believe that it exactly what I am needing to do. Now I have never touched it before so if I set this up on my exchange server and they hard code the account and password into the software, how will that affect internal users using Outlook? I am assuming that they will need to have this account and password entered into they outlook profile somewhere. I just do not want to put out a change and bring our e-mailing to a halt. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
Not sure how your environment is configured, but in mine it doesn't effect internal users at all. None of my internal users use SMTP... Well, there is the Mac guy, but his client is already configured to use SMTP AUTH with his own NT credentials. Adding one or one hundred more user accounts wouldn't effect his ability to relay though. -Original Message- From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Thanks Chris, I do believe that it exactly what I am needing to do. Now I have never touched it before so if I set this up on my exchange server and they hard code the account and password into the software, how will that affect internal users using Outlook? I am assuming that they will need to have this account and password entered into they outlook profile somewhere. I just do not want to put out a change and bring our e-mailing to a halt. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
Doesn't your internal network accept internet mail in some way? How do people address mail to your company? 1. Many ISPs allow SMTP AUTH'ed mail from outside, you could have your monitor machines send mail to your ISP's SMTP AUTH server. 2. You could set up your own SMTP relay that only relays to your Exchange server AND only if AUTH is valid and then allow exchange to accept mail from this relay. -Kevin -Original Message- From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, November 22, 2002 7:08 AM Posted To: Exchange Conversation: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5 Subject: RE: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5 My apologies. Had to walk away before sending message. This was to the first response about using Blat from Andy. We have full capabilities to send the e-mails. I put the smpt server on the local machine out and the programmers do not think that will be feasible due to the many variables involved at each site. (their words exactly) So it looks like I am stuck with trying to resolve this on the exchange server with something that they can hard code into our remote software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
Another thought: Set up an internal box with a SMTP daemon. Run it on a port diff. from 25 (12345 or something equally unlikely). On your firewall map all inbound requests for port 12345 to the IP of that internal box. As an added measure use AUTH just in case some wiseguy finds the port on your border. -Original Message- From: Jerry J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5 We do not need an application on the remote machines for sending the e-mail alerts. Looking for a means of allowing these machines that are on various other networks around the country to be able to relay thru our mail server without being an open relay. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing restrictions Exchange 5.5
Well it looks like what I am going to do is set up distro lists for each site and send the mail to the list then have anyone that needs to get the alerts on the list. Sucks for me. Alot of administration. But I plan to set up a server to automatically do this for me in the future since all information is located on a SQL server. Thanks for the info tho. As always I am learning more and more about exchange. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: routing messages to a unique mailbox
I assume your talking about incoming mail. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q324021 Mark Fugatt -Original Message- From: Con Raducanu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 6:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: routing messages to a unique mailbox Hi List, Is it possible to route all messages sent to users of a given Internet domain to one mailbox in Exchange 2K? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. CNR _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: routing messages to a unique mailbox
Tom Mark Thank you both. It works fine. CNR _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: routing messages to a unique mailbox
Try Q324021 -Original Message- From: Con Raducanu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Sunday, August 18, 2002 05:14 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: routing messages to a unique mailbox Subject: routing messages to a unique mailbox Hi List, Is it possible to route all messages sent to users of a given Internet domain to one mailbox in Exchange 2K? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. CNR _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing
On the IMS, go to the Connections tab and look in the specify by email domain area. You can set up per-domain routing, e.g. add in your other domain and configure message delivery to the IP address of the POP3 system. Neil -Original Message- From: Darren Ash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 10 July 2002 08:05 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing Subject: Routing Lets see if anyone can answer this one today ... I'll try and put as much info as possible this time Site 1 : Exchange 5.5 SP4 NT4 SP6a Site 2 : POP3 Mail system Scenario : Site 2 now owns Site 1 and we have set up various custom recipients to forward mail around. However all the mail leaving Site 1 currently goes out over our BT ISDN connection. How do I make all mail destined for Site 2 use the fixed line we have in place between the 2 sites and not go over the ISDN connection. Looking around in Exchange admin I have routing tab on the IMS set for all messages sent to Site1.com route to inbound. Is it just a case of adding a routing entry here for Site2.com routing to Site2. If so how do i address site2 (DNS,IP etc ) Pls help as I need this sorted ASAP. Regards Darren Coolchain LtdCoolchain Ltd London Road Henley Road Teynham Paddock Wood Kent Kent ME9 9PR TN12 6DN Tel: 01795 523200Tel: 01892 831400 Fax: 01795 523241Fax: 01892 831451 All business is conducted in accordance with the company's terms and conditions, a copy of which is available on request. For the avoidance of doubt, all orders initiated by ourselves must be signed by an authorised signatory of this company. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing
Will this stop it going out over the BT connection ??? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 July 2002 11:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing On the IMS, go to the Connections tab and look in the specify by email domain area. You can set up per-domain routing, e.g. add in your other domain and configure message delivery to the IP address of the POP3 system. Neil -Original Message- From: Darren Ash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 10 July 2002 08:05 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing Subject: Routing Lets see if anyone can answer this one today ... I'll try and put as much info as possible this time Site 1 : Exchange 5.5 SP4 NT4 SP6a Site 2 : POP3 Mail system Scenario : Site 2 now owns Site 1 and we have set up various custom recipients to forward mail around. However all the mail leaving Site 1 currently goes out over our BT ISDN connection. How do I make all mail destined for Site 2 use the fixed line we have in place between the 2 sites and not go over the ISDN connection. Looking around in Exchange admin I have routing tab on the IMS set for all messages sent to Site1.com route to inbound. Is it just a case of adding a routing entry here for Site2.com routing to Site2. If so how do i address site2 (DNS,IP etc ) Pls help as I need this sorted ASAP. Regards Darren Coolchain LtdCoolchain Ltd London Road Henley Road Teynham Paddock Wood Kent Kent ME9 9PR TN12 6DN Tel: 01795 523200Tel: 01892 831400 Fax: 01795 523241Fax: 01892 831451 All business is conducted in accordance with the company's terms and conditions, a copy of which is available on request. For the avoidance of doubt, all orders initiated by ourselves must be signed by an authorised signatory of this company. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Coolchain LtdCoolchain Ltd London Road Henley Road Teynham Paddock Wood Kent Kent ME9 9PR TN12 6DN Tel: 01795 523200Tel: 01892 831400 Fax: 01795 523241Fax: 01892 831451 All business is conducted in accordance with the company's terms and conditions, a copy of which is available on request. For the avoidance of doubt, all orders initiated by ourselves must be signed by an authorised signatory of this company. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements
I guess the point of it would be YMMV. Depending on your traffic patterns, your need to regulate traffic between sites by size and or times or to throttle the connection. With E2K you put in your best guess and if it's not what you need, it's not that hard to change it. We have two main data centers with dual OC3's between them. I was going to have all the servers in one great big routing group and if the network folks whine about all the chatter, then I'll split them in two. -Original Message- From: Leo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Exchange 2000 resource kit chapter 31 Reliable always on connectivity is more important that high bandwdth this is the only reference I could find. There is also a white paper from MS but all it says is Generally, servers within a routing group are connected by a high speed network I have seen the text in the E2k reskit repeated more times than the whitepaper. There must be some stats out there!? Leo I find it very hard to believe there are no stats available as yet, surely there are enough installations out there for MS to put their hands up and give some detail. Leo Just buttering you up so you'll buy me beer. -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements While I appreciate your confidence, this is actually me just guessing. But since MS doesn't care to provide any hard numbers, I took a WAG at what I would do, were it my client's environment I was designing. M - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Im Missy's case, Im betting on real life experience. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Based on what? Gut feeling? Or any actual stats? The only reason I ask is that there's a distinct lack of any best practice or stats yet. My understanding is that, since SMTP is asynchronous, it can still work in low bandwidth environments without the timeouts associated with RPCs. So in theory, messages would just queue if there's not enough bandwidth. So the thinking then becomes that we only know how low we can go if we know what sort of traffic we're gonna get... Neil -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 23 May 2002 17:11 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing group bandwidth requirements Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements Well, it's more important that the bandwidth is highly available than it is for the bandwidth to be, say 10 Mb. But I'd say that your low limit for connectivity would be somewhere around 128 Kbps - but would prefer to see 256 Kbps or better with an RG. Missy - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Routing group bandwidth requirements What are the typical bandwidth requirements within a routing group. Are there any documented guidelines available? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements
The right answer does vary quite a bit and those who have done the work in production environments to gather the stats are, in general not terribly willing to give away that expertise without a consulting engagement. -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 7:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements I guess the point of it would be YMMV. Depending on your traffic patterns, your need to regulate traffic between sites by size and or times or to throttle the connection. With E2K you put in your best guess and if it's not what you need, it's not that hard to change it. We have two main data centers with dual OC3's between them. I was going to have all the servers in one great big routing group and if the network folks whine about all the chatter, then I'll split them in two. -Original Message- From: Leo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Exchange 2000 resource kit chapter 31 Reliable always on connectivity is more important that high bandwdth this is the only reference I could find. There is also a white paper from MS but all it says is Generally, servers within a routing group are connected by a high speed network I have seen the text in the E2k reskit repeated more times than the whitepaper. There must be some stats out there!? Leo I find it very hard to believe there are no stats available as yet, surely there are enough installations out there for MS to put their hands up and give some detail. Leo Just buttering you up so you'll buy me beer. -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements While I appreciate your confidence, this is actually me just guessing. But since MS doesn't care to provide any hard numbers, I took a WAG at what I would do, were it my client's environment I was designing. M - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Im Missy's case, Im betting on real life experience. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Based on what? Gut feeling? Or any actual stats? The only reason I ask is that there's a distinct lack of any best practice or stats yet. My understanding is that, since SMTP is asynchronous, it can still work in low bandwidth environments without the timeouts associated with RPCs. So in theory, messages would just queue if there's not enough bandwidth. So the thinking then becomes that we only know how low we can go if we know what sort of traffic we're gonna get... Neil -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 23 May 2002 17:11 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing group bandwidth requirements Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements Well, it's more important that the bandwidth is highly available than it is for the bandwidth to be, say 10 Mb. But I'd say that your low limit for connectivity would be somewhere around 128 Kbps - but would prefer to see 256 Kbps or better with an RG. Missy - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Routing group bandwidth requirements What are the typical bandwidth requirements within a routing group. Are there any documented guidelines available? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions
Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements
Well, it's more important that the bandwidth is highly available than it is for the bandwidth to be, say 10 Mb. But I'd say that your low limit for connectivity would be somewhere around 128 Kbps - but would prefer to see 256 Kbps or better with an RG. Missy - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Routing group bandwidth requirements What are the typical bandwidth requirements within a routing group. Are there any documented guidelines available? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements
Isn't intrarouting group communication much less intense than intrasite? -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements Well, it's more important that the bandwidth is highly available than it is for the bandwidth to be, say 10 Mb. But I'd say that your low limit for connectivity would be somewhere around 128 Kbps - but would prefer to see 256 Kbps or better with an RG. Missy - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Routing group bandwidth requirements What are the typical bandwidth requirements within a routing group. Are there any documented guidelines available? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements
Yeppers. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:28 PM Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Isn't intrarouting group communication much less intense than intrasite? -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements Well, it's more important that the bandwidth is highly available than it is for the bandwidth to be, say 10 Mb. But I'd say that your low limit for connectivity would be somewhere around 128 Kbps - but would prefer to see 256 Kbps or better with an RG. Missy - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Routing group bandwidth requirements What are the typical bandwidth requirements within a routing group. Are there any documented guidelines available? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements
Based on what? Gut feeling? Or any actual stats? The only reason I ask is that there's a distinct lack of any best practice or stats yet. My understanding is that, since SMTP is asynchronous, it can still work in low bandwidth environments without the timeouts associated with RPCs. So in theory, messages would just queue if there's not enough bandwidth. So the thinking then becomes that we only know how low we can go if we know what sort of traffic we're gonna get... Neil -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 23 May 2002 17:11 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing group bandwidth requirements Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements Well, it's more important that the bandwidth is highly available than it is for the bandwidth to be, say 10 Mb. But I'd say that your low limit for connectivity would be somewhere around 128 Kbps - but would prefer to see 256 Kbps or better with an RG. Missy - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Routing group bandwidth requirements What are the typical bandwidth requirements within a routing group. Are there any documented guidelines available? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements
Im Missy's case, Im betting on real life experience. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Based on what? Gut feeling? Or any actual stats? The only reason I ask is that there's a distinct lack of any best practice or stats yet. My understanding is that, since SMTP is asynchronous, it can still work in low bandwidth environments without the timeouts associated with RPCs. So in theory, messages would just queue if there's not enough bandwidth. So the thinking then becomes that we only know how low we can go if we know what sort of traffic we're gonna get... Neil -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 23 May 2002 17:11 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing group bandwidth requirements Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements Well, it's more important that the bandwidth is highly available than it is for the bandwidth to be, say 10 Mb. But I'd say that your low limit for connectivity would be somewhere around 128 Kbps - but would prefer to see 256 Kbps or better with an RG. Missy - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Routing group bandwidth requirements What are the typical bandwidth requirements within a routing group. Are there any documented guidelines available? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements
While I appreciate your confidence, this is actually me just guessing. But since MS doesn't care to provide any hard numbers, I took a WAG at what I would do, were it my client's environment I was designing. M - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Im Missy's case, Im betting on real life experience. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Based on what? Gut feeling? Or any actual stats? The only reason I ask is that there's a distinct lack of any best practice or stats yet. My understanding is that, since SMTP is asynchronous, it can still work in low bandwidth environments without the timeouts associated with RPCs. So in theory, messages would just queue if there's not enough bandwidth. So the thinking then becomes that we only know how low we can go if we know what sort of traffic we're gonna get... Neil -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 23 May 2002 17:11 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing group bandwidth requirements Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements Well, it's more important that the bandwidth is highly available than it is for the bandwidth to be, say 10 Mb. But I'd say that your low limit for connectivity would be somewhere around 128 Kbps - but would prefer to see 256 Kbps or better with an RG. Missy - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Routing group bandwidth requirements What are the typical bandwidth requirements within a routing group. Are there any documented guidelines available? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements
Just buttering you up so you'll buy me beer. -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements While I appreciate your confidence, this is actually me just guessing. But since MS doesn't care to provide any hard numbers, I took a WAG at what I would do, were it my client's environment I was designing. M - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Im Missy's case, Im betting on real life experience. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Based on what? Gut feeling? Or any actual stats? The only reason I ask is that there's a distinct lack of any best practice or stats yet. My understanding is that, since SMTP is asynchronous, it can still work in low bandwidth environments without the timeouts associated with RPCs. So in theory, messages would just queue if there's not enough bandwidth. So the thinking then becomes that we only know how low we can go if we know what sort of traffic we're gonna get... Neil -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 23 May 2002 17:11 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing group bandwidth requirements Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements Well, it's more important that the bandwidth is highly available than it is for the bandwidth to be, say 10 Mb. But I'd say that your low limit for connectivity would be somewhere around 128 Kbps - but would prefer to see 256 Kbps or better with an RG. Missy - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Routing group bandwidth requirements What are the typical bandwidth requirements within a routing group. Are there any documented guidelines available? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained
RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements
I find it very hard to believe there are no stats available as yet, surely there are enough installations out there for MS to put their hands up and give some detail. Leo Just buttering you up so you'll buy me beer. -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements While I appreciate your confidence, this is actually me just guessing. But since MS doesn't care to provide any hard numbers, I took a WAG at what I would do, were it my client's environment I was designing. M - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Im Missy's case, Im betting on real life experience. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Based on what? Gut feeling? Or any actual stats? The only reason I ask is that there's a distinct lack of any best practice or stats yet. My understanding is that, since SMTP is asynchronous, it can still work in low bandwidth environments without the timeouts associated with RPCs. So in theory, messages would just queue if there's not enough bandwidth. So the thinking then becomes that we only know how low we can go if we know what sort of traffic we're gonna get... Neil -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 23 May 2002 17:11 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing group bandwidth requirements Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements Well, it's more important that the bandwidth is highly available than it is for the bandwidth to be, say 10 Mb. But I'd say that your low limit for connectivity would be somewhere around 128 Kbps - but would prefer to see 256 Kbps or better with an RG. Missy - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Routing group bandwidth requirements What are the typical bandwidth requirements within a routing group. Are there any documented guidelines available? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http
RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements
Exchange 2000 resource kit chapter 31 Reliable always on connectivity is more important that high bandwdth this is the only reference I could find. There is also a white paper from MS but all it says is Generally, servers within a routing group are connected by a high speed network I have seen the text in the E2k reskit repeated more times than the whitepaper. There must be some stats out there!? Leo I find it very hard to believe there are no stats available as yet, surely there are enough installations out there for MS to put their hands up and give some detail. Leo Just buttering you up so you'll buy me beer. -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements While I appreciate your confidence, this is actually me just guessing. But since MS doesn't care to provide any hard numbers, I took a WAG at what I would do, were it my client's environment I was designing. M - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Im Missy's case, Im betting on real life experience. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing group bandwidth requirements Based on what? Gut feeling? Or any actual stats? The only reason I ask is that there's a distinct lack of any best practice or stats yet. My understanding is that, since SMTP is asynchronous, it can still work in low bandwidth environments without the timeouts associated with RPCs. So in theory, messages would just queue if there's not enough bandwidth. So the thinking then becomes that we only know how low we can go if we know what sort of traffic we're gonna get... Neil -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 23 May 2002 17:11 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Routing group bandwidth requirements Subject: Re: Routing group bandwidth requirements Well, it's more important that the bandwidth is highly available than it is for the bandwidth to be, say 10 Mb. But I'd say that your low limit for connectivity would be somewhere around 128 Kbps - but would prefer to see 256 Kbps or better with an RG. Missy - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Routing group bandwidth requirements What are the typical bandwidth requirements within a routing group. Are there any documented guidelines available? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: routing/relay issues
Do a two-hop relay. Use some other SMTP server to get the mail from the website first. Then have it relay to this Exchange server. Only allow relaying from that other SMTP server. ORDB can test all they want - the front-end is not an open relay and they can't blacklist it. On the second note, it is weird that the website is not sending mail from its own IP address. Maybe someone should take a look at the code on that website. -Original Message- From: Mike Rissen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: routing/relay issues Scenario: 1) Company has Exchange 5.5 with all the service packs. 2) Company has user create a new account via web page. 3) User is immediately e-mailed an account and temporary password 3.a) email is NOT authenticated in any way. 3.b) scripting language is iHTML 3.c) User is almost always OUTSIDE the domain. 4) User changes password and is then allowed to do his thing. Everything works GREAT until a group of people called ORDB come onto the scene. You see, the only way this works is that Relaying is enabled in the IMS settings...also allowing spammers to mercilessly use their website and get them BLACKLISTED. Mail starts bouncing, connections being refused, etc. So turn off the routing except to only authenticated users? BAM! every e-mail functionality of the website dies. I've tried placing routing restrictions on the IMS so that only the IP address of the web server can use relaying. Nope. Even though the scripting language is server side, the email seems to be originating from the users IP. I know this because when we opened it up for that IP address, I could open a browser on the server and everything works fine...but on another user's machine inside the firewall...It dies. _ Even though the user's IP address seems to be used, SOMETHING is going through the server because the IP address in the iHTML is a 10.10.x.x (non-routable). Its inside the firewall. Is it somehow translated? Can you explain that? I didn't think I was net stupid...but alas -- I thought about creating another IMS module in Exchange (books have talked about doing this for other reasons) and have it answer on a secret port (NOT 25). Have this one totally open to relaying. The iHTML can specify a specific port to connect to. Stupid idea? If someone found it..the whole thing would start over again. Is it possible? -- I thought about having some process sitting somewhere (maybe on the SQL server) that would do the emailing and have it authenticate. The iHTML would then only add all the information into a table and be done with it. The SQL server would check for records every minute or so and e-mail once for each record it finds. Client doesn't necessarily want this. Any other advice or ideas from the gurus? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: routing/relay issues
Use both settings: authenticated users and by IP. The two are inclusive. That is, the IMS will accept mail from authenticated users, and from listed IP's. -Original Message- From: Mike Rissen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: routing/relay issues Scenario: 1) Company has Exchange 5.5 with all the service packs. 2) Company has user create a new account via web page. 3) User is immediately e-mailed an account and temporary password 3.a) email is NOT authenticated in any way. 3.b) scripting language is iHTML 3.c) User is almost always OUTSIDE the domain. 4) User changes password and is then allowed to do his thing. Everything works GREAT until a group of people called ORDB come onto the scene. You see, the only way this works is that Relaying is enabled in the IMS settings...also allowing spammers to mercilessly use their website and get them BLACKLISTED. Mail starts bouncing, connections being refused, etc. So turn off the routing except to only authenticated users? BAM! every e-mail functionality of the website dies. I've tried placing routing restrictions on the IMS so that only the IP address of the web server can use relaying. Nope. Even though the scripting language is server side, the email seems to be originating from the users IP. I know this because when we opened it up for that IP address, I could open a browser on the server and everything works fine...but on another user's machine inside the firewall...It dies. _ Even though the user's IP address seems to be used, SOMETHING is going through the server because the IP address in the iHTML is a 10.10.x.x (non-routable). Its inside the firewall. Is it somehow translated? Can you explain that? I didn't think I was net stupid...but alas -- I thought about creating another IMS module in Exchange (books have talked about doing this for other reasons) and have it answer on a secret port (NOT 25). Have this one totally open to relaying. The iHTML can specify a specific port to connect to. Stupid idea? If someone found it..the whole thing would start over again. Is it possible? -- I thought about having some process sitting somewhere (maybe on the SQL server) that would do the emailing and have it authenticate. The iHTML would then only add all the information into a table and be done with it. The SQL server would check for records every minute or so and e-mail once for each record it finds. Client doesn't necessarily want this. Any other advice or ideas from the gurus? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing multiple domain names internally
No this is for the future setup I am putting together. Thanks for your response. Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing multiple domain names internally
And why do we have SMTP connectors? -Original Message- From: Leo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:32 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Routing multiple domain names internally Subject: Routing multiple domain names internally Do I need to tick the box on the addresses tab of the SMTP connector Allow messages to be relayed to these domains? I have one org and have multiple smtp addresses and they can come in at any of three of our worldwide smtp connectors (all e2k servers). The recipient policies for all smtp addresses are defined. The mailboxes have their respective smtp addresses defined and all the smtp connectors have all the smtp addresses listed with differeng costs. Is there anything else I need to do, and do I really need to Allow messages to be relayed to these domains? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing multiple domain names internally
For the shaver in the bathroom next to the TCP/IP mouthwash on the shelf. -Original Message- From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 May 2002 15:13 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing multiple domain names internally And why do we have SMTP connectors? -Original Message- From: Leo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:32 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Routing multiple domain names internally Subject: Routing multiple domain names internally Do I need to tick the box on the addresses tab of the SMTP connector Allow messages to be relayed to these domains? I have one org and have multiple smtp addresses and they can come in at any of three of our worldwide smtp connectors (all e2k servers). The recipient policies for all smtp addresses are defined. The mailboxes have their respective smtp addresses defined and all the smtp connectors have all the smtp addresses listed with differeng costs. Is there anything else I need to do, and do I really need to Allow messages to be relayed to these domains? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing multiple domain names internally
Based on the info you gave I would say no. Are you having any NDR stating relaying not allowed? - Original Message - From: Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:31 AM Subject: Routing multiple domain names internally Do I need to tick the box on the addresses tab of the SMTP connector Allow messages to be relayed to these domains? I have one org and have multiple smtp addresses and they can come in at any of three of our worldwide smtp connectors (all e2k servers). The recipient policies for all smtp addresses are defined. The mailboxes have their respective smtp addresses defined and all the smtp connectors have all the smtp addresses listed with differeng costs. Is there anything else I need to do, and do I really need to Allow messages to be relayed to these domains? Regards Leo _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing SMTP
What you should do is to create one SMTP connector for each smart host, set its source to be the E2K server that the MX records point it, add all of the address spaces that you want to accept for relay to the Address Spaces tab, and check the box on that tab that says Allow inbound relay to these domains. Finally, set the smart host to be the right 5.5 server that accepts SMTP for that host. So in other words, the answer to your question is yes, you can set up multiple smtp connectors on E2K that have a smart host, just remember to check the box that says allow relay to these domains on the connectors. David This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights. -Original Message- From: RB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Routing SMTP I want to route messages that come in from the internet to the correct smart host. We have several smtp address spaces for several E5.5 orgs We want to define them all on our E2k server so that it can route these on to the correct host (smart host) in each e5.5 org. Can I set up multiple smtp connectors on E2k that have a smart host and smtp address space defined or do I need to do something else. Thanks folks RB _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing SMTP
David, this is excellent and the way I hoped I could do it. Many Many Many thanks. I do have one question regarding this. In exchange 2000 there are two types of smtp connector, one uses the smtp service from IIS in Win2k known as the Default SMTP virtual server (found under servername\protocols) and the other the more traditional smtp connector (found under first routing groups\connectors). I have had recomendations that I should use the IIS SMTP connector. I suspect this is due to scalability. My question is this, how do I use (if at all) the default SMTP virtual server from IIS when using multiple smtp connectors in the manner you recommend. I obviously want to ensure routing works and am concerned about this virtual smtp connector. Would it interfere with this set up? Do I just stop the service or do I have to configure it in any particular way? Regards RB _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing SMTP
The virtual SMTP server will work with no configuration at all. It will create a connector [1] on demand, per site. Then remove the connector after a certain time. Works very well. So if you send email to joe.com and bob.com your Virtual SMTP server will create 2 connectors one for each. Then remove them after a short period of time. [1] A connector is what you can create in the routing group. They are the same thing. Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of RB Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 1:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing SMTP David, this is excellent and the way I hoped I could do it. Many Many Many thanks. I do have one question regarding this. In exchange 2000 there are two types of smtp connector, one uses the smtp service from IIS in Win2k known as the Default SMTP virtual server (found under servername\protocols) and the other the more traditional smtp connector (found under first routing groups\connectors). I have had recomendations that I should use the IIS SMTP connector. I suspect this is due to scalability. My question is this, how do I use (if at all) the default SMTP virtual server from IIS when using multiple smtp connectors in the manner you recommend. I obviously want to ensure routing works and am concerned about this virtual smtp connector. Would it interfere with this set up? Do I just stop the service or do I have to configure it in any particular way? Regards RB _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing SMTP
Thanks for this information. I'm off to test this out now. Thanks to everyone who has helped here. Reagards RB _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing SMTP
Read up on the function of MX records in DNS, and the structure of mail relay hosts and default DNS hosts (where one DNS server refers a lookup request that it can't resolve itself). -Original Message- From: RB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Routing SMTP I want to route messages that come in from the internet to the correct smart host. We have several smtp address spaces for several E5.5 orgs We want to define them all on our E2k server so that it can route these on to the correct host (smart host) in each e5.5 org. Can I set up multiple smtp connectors on E2k that have a smart host and smtp address space defined or do I need to do something else. Thanks folks RB _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing SMTP
Thanks Craig. I suppose what you are saying is that as long as the MX records exist in DNS for those smtp address spaces all I need is to is point to one smart host ? Is this correct? Alec. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing SMTP
Probably. Maybe you saw a post I wrote about a week ago on the topic of happy charts. It's similar to one I posted this list years ago (in the Peter era). In effect, what you need to do is build a very careful map of exactly where all of your packets are going and why, and as you have discovered, this goes a lot deeper than simply how the connectors or gateways are pointed. You have to get inside the DNS and understand exactly how name resolution for all of your mail hosts, relay hosts and various servers is accomplished. Invariably, any routing problem that crops up will be sorted out by tracing the packet paths and understanding why they move the way they do. I know it sounds a little nit picking or even anal, but it is true that the system works or fails to work exactly the way the combination of instructions tell it to behave. One of the things that you will note in the serious posts by the likes of Ed, Ed, Missy, Lori, Darcy, Daniel, etc., is that they really have a solid grasp of how the underlying technology works. One particularly colorful contributor, a certain CJ, even likes to point to that mastery in his tag line. But don't be put off by it, the underlying technologies are not that difficult to understand. It's really just a lot of tiny details. There is no magic, only ones and zeros. Messaging is not like normal application services. A lot of sites tend to think of their message system as an application that sits on some servers and behaves as though it were completely a creature of layer 7. But, it just ain't so. Building and running a messaging system is merely a specialty within the general skill of networking. And, if installed and run correctly, messaging systems are best thought of and treated as though they were accessories to your switches and routers. After all, what is the fundamental difference between delivering the mail and delivering packets? I can't think of one that matters, especially given that what you store in the message servers can deliberately control where the routers send the packets. As you move on into installing voice servers and integrating the message services with VoIP or even legacy voice gear, the necessity of this attitude and approach will become manifestly obvious. As an aside, your directory experts are in for a similar set of discoveries. Those that think that they are experts in directories and yet know little if anything about how DHCP really works, are going to have a very hard time being any use to you when it comes time to make directory based dialing work properly on your VoIP screen phones. Especially when you start doing remote line presentations to sites in other countries or States, and you start trying to figure out how to implement directory based call forwarding, or writing call handling scripts. Directory is a lot more than person naming schemes. And then there is data . . . -Original Message- From: RB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing SMTP Thanks Craig. I suppose what you are saying is that as long as the MX records exist in DNS for those smtp address spaces all I need is to is point to one smart host ? Is this correct? Alec. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: routing restrictions button disabled
uh, Isnt it automatically grayed out when you have Do not reroute Incoming SMTP Mail checked? -Original Message- From: chalamvv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 4:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: routing restrictions button disabled dear all, I am with serious problem NT 4.0 with SP5 Exchange Server 5.5 with SP4. the Routing Restrictions button in Internet Mail Service is disabled even after applying SP4 on Exchange Server. any suggestion is highly appreciated. Regards, Chalam V.V. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing SMTP mail in a Hub spoke exchange environment
There is nothing specifically bad about Exchange on a BDC. It depends on the load more than anything. If it were PDC, then that might be an issue since it slightly complicates the recovery process if the machine needs to be replaced. The one-site vs. many sites question is much harder to answer, you need to determine reliability of the T1, bandwidth utilization, user class (high med low etc.) and lots of other little things that can't really be answered in an e-mail. If you decide to put it on the WINS server, watch out for Jet errors from the WINS engine that might be confused with the Exchange Store in the event log. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 10:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing SMTP mail in a Hub spoke exchange environment At each of the 7 branch offices their are 60 users, here is what I am thinking of: - At each branch office a BDC for the domain/NT4sp6/Exchange 5.5 sp4 - All branch office are connected to corporate by full t-1's My questions are the following: -I have read that putting exchange on domain controllers is bad, in large sites, but mine is relativly small, at each site I only have 2 available servers 1 for BDC, 1 for either file print server/exchange or possible wins and file server what do you think is best?? - Even though the connections between sites are fairly fast, should I still make each branch office its own site??? or should they all be in the same site ? what are pros and cons of both, I have set up site connectors a few times and have fairly decent success with them, but not with this many .. so I would like to hear others opinions on this, of all the exchange books I have read they recomend only intersite replication on fast lan technologies, they recomend seperate sites across wan links so you can more accuratly control replication - best method to set up Name Resolution, I have heard Exchange on DC is bad, but some people say it speeds up name resolution since exchange uses NTs directory for authentication, so should I put it on a BDC at each branch since each is relativly small or should I put a WINS server at each location and set up replication, my thoughts is that with 8 wins servers it will be come high maintenance... Thanks for your time.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Bouzan Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing SMTP mail in a Hub spoke exchange environment ~ndi How many users in all/at each office? PBB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 August 2001 21:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Routing SMTP mail in a Hub spoke exchange environment *** WARNING - THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATES FROM THE INTERNET *** I am looking for a good document or advice on how to set up the following mail routing setup and any issues that anyone may have seen: I have 7 Branch offices, all connected by full t1 connections to the Corporate office, the only internet connection is through Corporates t1 out to the internet Currently we are running groupwise 5.5 for all messaging, and I have just implemented exchange 5.5sp3 on NT4/sp6 running the groupwise/exchange connector on exchange (man what a pain) and on Groupwise the Mail gateway NLM API. So now I have all of my Groupwise mailboxes synced to exchange 5.5 as Custom recipients,,, this is where I need advice at... I have to join an existing Exchange Organization and route all mail for company.com to the exchange servers running smtp at corporate, so I need advice/docs on how to set up smtp routing from multiple branch offices up to the corporate servers who actually have the internet connection I have the migration stuff licked my users can log onto either grouwise or exchange and see each other and send mail, but it is now time to remove groupwise, and set up the smtp from my branch offices to the corporate smtp servers for outside mail via exchange.. Thanks IA _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Routing SMTP mail in a Hub spoke exchange environment
Thanks for all the tips, appreciate your time, I just get confused reading all the books about design theory it is fun to play with all the different setups, but I dont have enough hardware to try and set up a mock up of the 2 different ideas I have which are: First off here is what I have for each of the 7 branch offices and for 1 corporate Each branch office gets 2 New compaq servers, nice hardware latest and greatest out of the 2 servers I need a BDC at each branch to join the corporate NT4 domain, a file server, and a Wins server since its in a large routed setup. I have 2 thoughts on whats best to set it up.. Please note that T1s are relativly reliable, and lots of room for more traffic. THEORY #1 server 1- BDC to corporate domain/ Exchange 5.5 server 2- File/Backupserver/Wins This exchange server would be in its own site, with a Site connector and Directory replication to the corporate site. THEORY#2 server 1- FileServer/Exchange server 2- BDC/Backup server/WINS This exchanger server would also be in its own site with a Site connector and Directory replication to the corporate site. **Questions*** 1- Does each site need a site connector to everyother site to have recipients in the gal for all sites??? 2- Or if each site is replicating its directory and has a site connector to corporate will it get all the other sites from corporate again thanks for time and expertise... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Bouzan Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing SMTP mail in a Hub spoke exchange environment Practically the same as my Co! - Here's what I did. I inherited seven sites that were all talking via ISDN dial-ups. Once the leased lines were installed I did this. I first moved Exchange onto a new NT4 server from the PDC that it was originally installed on at HO. I then visited each of the other sites in turn, saved off data etc, PST'ed the mailboxes and trashed the (then) PDC in that office. I then reinstalled it as a BDC to the domain at HO, reinstalled exchange making it a server in the site defined at HO and sucked the PST's back in by hand [1]. Each site would have only taken me a day but I allowed two for each just in case of any problems. WINS runs on the PDC at HO and I set up another box just for the IMC that is connected to another leased line via FW-1 for SMTP and Web etc. I use a service called NetEquIP that is managed by British Telecom - it provides (at present) a 64K leased line into each sub-office and a 256K host leased line at HO to aggregate the sub-offices. This has been happily handling domain replication, exchange natter, centralised web access and internet email for well over a year now without any problems at all. Exchange Link Monitor reports round trip times of ~30 seconds and I have a lot of happy users! By the 8th of October I should have 256K into each sub-office and a 4Mb fibre at HO to allow for increased traffic. In fact last week, a new office came on board and I added them as the eighth server into the site at HO. Within two hours they were all up and running and I got home nice and early. PBB [1] - Tip, use a seperate client PC for each PST save-off, I had the mailbox saves complete by lunchtime! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 August 2001 03:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing SMTP mail in a Hub spoke exchange environment At each of the 7 branch offices their are 60 users, here is what I am thinking of: - At each branch office a BDC for the domain/NT4sp6/Exchange 5.5 sp4 - All branch office are connected to corporate by full t-1's My questions are the following: -I have read that putting exchange on domain controllers is bad, in large sites, but mine is relativly small, at each site I only have 2 available servers 1 for BDC, 1 for either file print server/exchange or possible wins and file server what do you think is best?? - Even though the connections between sites are fairly fast, should I still make each branch office its own site??? or should they all be in the same site ? what are pros and cons of both, I have set up site connectors a few times and have fairly decent success with them, but not with this many .. so I would like to hear others opinions on this, of all the exchange books I have read they recomend only intersite replication on fast lan technologies, they recomend seperate sites across wan links so you can more accuratly control replication - best method to set up Name Resolution, I have heard Exchange on DC is bad, but some people say it speeds up name resolution since exchange uses NTs directory for authentication, so should I put it on a BDC at each branch since each is relativly small or should I put a WINS server at each location and set up replication, my thoughts is that with 8 wins servers it will be come high maintenance... Thanks
RE: Routing SMTP mail in a Hub spoke exchange environment
~ndi How many users in all/at each office? PBB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 August 2001 21:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Routing SMTP mail in a Hub spoke exchange environment *** WARNING - THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATES FROM THE INTERNET *** I am looking for a good document or advice on how to set up the following mail routing setup and any issues that anyone may have seen: I have 7 Branch offices, all connected by full t1 connections to the Corporate office, the only internet connection is through Corporates t1 out to the internet Currently we are running groupwise 5.5 for all messaging, and I have just implemented exchange 5.5sp3 on NT4/sp6 running the groupwise/exchange connector on exchange (man what a pain) and on Groupwise the Mail gateway NLM API. So now I have all of my Groupwise mailboxes synced to exchange 5.5 as Custom recipients,,, this is where I need advice at... I have to join an existing Exchange Organization and route all mail for company.com to the exchange servers running smtp at corporate, so I need advice/docs on how to set up smtp routing from multiple branch offices up to the corporate servers who actually have the internet connection I have the migration stuff licked my users can log onto either grouwise or exchange and see each other and send mail, but it is now time to remove groupwise, and set up the smtp from my branch offices to the corporate smtp servers for outside mail via exchange.. Thanks IA _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing SMTP mail in a Hub spoke exchange environment
At each of the 7 branch offices their are 60 users, here is what I am thinking of: - At each branch office a BDC for the domain/NT4sp6/Exchange 5.5 sp4 - All branch office are connected to corporate by full t-1's My questions are the following: -I have read that putting exchange on domain controllers is bad, in large sites, but mine is relativly small, at each site I only have 2 available servers 1 for BDC, 1 for either file print server/exchange or possible wins and file server what do you think is best?? - Even though the connections between sites are fairly fast, should I still make each branch office its own site??? or should they all be in the same site ? what are pros and cons of both, I have set up site connectors a few times and have fairly decent success with them, but not with this many .. so I would like to hear others opinions on this, of all the exchange books I have read they recomend only intersite replication on fast lan technologies, they recomend seperate sites across wan links so you can more accuratly control replication - best method to set up Name Resolution, I have heard Exchange on DC is bad, but some people say it speeds up name resolution since exchange uses NTs directory for authentication, so should I put it on a BDC at each branch since each is relativly small or should I put a WINS server at each location and set up replication, my thoughts is that with 8 wins servers it will be come high maintenance... Thanks for your time.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Bouzan Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Routing SMTP mail in a Hub spoke exchange environment ~ndi How many users in all/at each office? PBB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 August 2001 21:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Routing SMTP mail in a Hub spoke exchange environment *** WARNING - THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATES FROM THE INTERNET *** I am looking for a good document or advice on how to set up the following mail routing setup and any issues that anyone may have seen: I have 7 Branch offices, all connected by full t1 connections to the Corporate office, the only internet connection is through Corporates t1 out to the internet Currently we are running groupwise 5.5 for all messaging, and I have just implemented exchange 5.5sp3 on NT4/sp6 running the groupwise/exchange connector on exchange (man what a pain) and on Groupwise the Mail gateway NLM API. So now I have all of my Groupwise mailboxes synced to exchange 5.5 as Custom recipients,,, this is where I need advice at... I have to join an existing Exchange Organization and route all mail for company.com to the exchange servers running smtp at corporate, so I need advice/docs on how to set up smtp routing from multiple branch offices up to the corporate servers who actually have the internet connection I have the migration stuff licked my users can log onto either grouwise or exchange and see each other and send mail, but it is now time to remove groupwise, and set up the smtp from my branch offices to the corporate smtp servers for outside mail via exchange.. Thanks IA _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
