RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-09 Thread Knoch Jr., James W
Definitely need to be zipped up.  Especially since all scanmail versions
since 3.7 scan the headers of files so you can't even rename a file's
extension anymore.  Also the AVAPI mode was known to miss files (not sure if
this was ever fixed since trend did switch the way they scan in 5.5) if it
ever got overloaded.  The good thing about the latest scanmail is that it
scans outgoing email also since it hits the store first before being sent.
I believe trend has a .dll that sits in memory (ESE API mode) and scans
store writing so you won't have the MAPI problem either.  We've been running
the new mode since 3.7 (currently on 3.8) and haven't had any problems with
corruption or anything.


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: ScanMail missing tricks?


Sometimes users get sent legitimate executables, they get blocked because of
the extention, so I have to copy it to a share for them to retrieve it - I'm
then reliant on the AV on my desktop, what I'd prefer is for the virus
checker to say "is it infected" before it looks at whether it should
quarantine that sort of file.

Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but that's just how I'd like it to
work - in fairness with 3.81 they're most of the way there with the
integrated quarantine manager section.

regards
paul
- Original Message - 
From: "Ward, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?


> Why would it need to?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
>
>
> No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was to scan
> attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had loads of bugbears
> quarantined for being .exe's , but it doesn't seem to actually scan them
as
> well.
>
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> >
> >
> > You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it
> > functions a LOT better.
> >
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which
> > > doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I
> > > have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and
> > > yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to
> > > the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected
> > > attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual
> > > scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now
> > > in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos
> > > AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> > >
> > > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if
> > > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely
> > > solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see
> > > what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought,
> > > non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users
> > > about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Tim Gowen
> > > RAF Museum
> > > IT Dept.
> > >
> > >
> > > Confidentiality: This e-mail and its attachments are intended
> > > for the above named only and may be confidential. If they
> > > have come to you in error you must take no action based on
> > > them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply
> > > to this e-mail and highlight the error.
> > >
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Re: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-09 Thread Tim Gowen

Yeah, but I am running in AVAPI mode and the scan engine and pattern file
are current.  It's getting some Bugbears but not others.


Tim


Subject: Re: ScanMail missing tricks?
From: "Ray Beckwith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:13:31 -0700
X-Message-Number: 17

We had this issue a while back when we first started using ScanMail. We
found out from Trend that when ScanMail runs in MAPI mode, it doesn't scan
the attachments until AFTER the message is in the inbox; which leaves the
possibility if the server is extremely busy scanning, the user could see
and even open the message before the scanner gets to it.

The solution was to run ScanMail in AVAPI mode instead. This mode
intercepts attachments before they reach the IS. Just be sure you have
upgraded to the latest version of ScanMail and the latest Exchange SP
first as there have been issues with AVAPI mode in earlier versions
crashing the IS. Check the list archives for this topic. I know it was
discussed here a couple years ago.

Good Luck.
Ray

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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Ward, Stuart
Have them 'zipped' up...

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: ScanMail missing tricks?


Sometimes users get sent legitimate executables, they get blocked because of
the extention, so I have to copy it to a share for them to retrieve it - I'm
then reliant on the AV on my desktop, what I'd prefer is for the virus
checker to say "is it infected" before it looks at whether it should
quarantine that sort of file.

Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but that's just how I'd like it to
work - in fairness with 3.81 they're most of the way there with the
integrated quarantine manager section.

regards
paul
- Original Message - 
From: "Ward, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?


> Why would it need to?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
>
>
> No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was to scan
> attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had loads of bugbears
> quarantined for being .exe's , but it doesn't seem to actually scan them
as
> well.
>
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> >
> >
> > You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it
> > functions a LOT better.
> >
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which
> > > doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I
> > > have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and
> > > yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to
> > > the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected
> > > attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual
> > > scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now
> > > in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos
> > > AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> > >
> > > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if
> > > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely
> > > solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see
> > > what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought,
> > > non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users
> > > about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Tim Gowen
> > > RAF Museum
> > > IT Dept.
> > >
> > >
> > > Confidentiality: This e-mail and its attachments are intended
> > > for the above named only and may be confidential. If they
> > > have come to you in error you must take no action based on
> > > them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply
> > > to this e-mail and highlight the error.
> > >
> > > Security Warning: Please note that this e-mail has been
> > > created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a 100%
> > > secure communications medium. We advise that you understand
> > > and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us.
> > >
> > > Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this
> > > e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise
> > > that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient
> > > should take steps to confirm that they are actually virus free.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _
> > > List posting F

RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Roger Seielstad
Admin's don't let users receive EXE's via email. FAQ

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> Sometimes users get sent legitimate executables, they get 
> blocked because of the extention, so I have to copy it to a 
> share for them to retrieve it - I'm then reliant on the AV on 
> my desktop, what I'd prefer is for the virus checker to say 
> "is it infected" before it looks at whether it should 
> quarantine that sort of file.
> 
> Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but that's just how 
> I'd like it to work - in fairness with 3.81 they're most of 
> the way there with the integrated quarantine manager section.
> 
> regards
> paul
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ward, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 5:06 PM
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> > Why would it need to?
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:58 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> >
> >
> > No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was to scan 
> > attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had loads of 
> > bugbears quarantined for being .exe's , but it doesn't seem to 
> > actually scan them
> as
> > well.
> >
> > regards,
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Hutchings
> > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > >
> > >
> > > You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I 
> believe it 
> > > functions a LOT better.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Inovis Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> > > > doesn't ever happen here since we started using 
> ScanMail.  I have 
> > > > ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > > > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of 
> Danger, and yet 
> > > > this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to 
> the Inbox.  
> > > > A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected 
> attachments which 
> > > > had apparently got through.  But the manual scan does 
> not pick up 
> > > > the file I just mentioned, which is now in my Deleted Items.  A 
> > > > copy is on my hard drive and Sophos AntiVirus also 
> doesn't detect 
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> > > > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely 
> solution?  
> > > > I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see what 
> they say, but 
> > > > the attachment blocking was, I thought, non-negotiable 
> and always 
> > > > works.  Luckily I badger my users about the danger of 
> attachments 
> > > > on a fairly regular basis.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tim Gowen
> > > > RAF Museum
> > > > IT Dept.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Confidentiality: This e-mail and its attachments are 
> intended for 
> > > > the above named only and may be confidential. If they 
> have come to 
> > > > you in error you must take no action based on them, nor 
> must you 
> > > > copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this e-

RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Roger Seielstad
I don't quarantine. If it can't be cleaned, its deleted...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was 
> to scan attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had 
> loads of bugbears quarantined for being .exe's , but it 
> doesn't seem to actually scan them as well.
> 
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > 
> > 
> > You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it 
> > functions a LOT better.
> > 
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which
> > > doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I 
> > > have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and 
> > > yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to 
> > > the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected 
> > > attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual 
> > > scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now 
> > > in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos 
> > > AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> > > 
> > > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if
> > > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely 
> > > solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see 
> > > what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought, 
> > > non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users 
> > > about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Tim
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Tim Gowen  
> > > RAF Museum
> > > IT Dept.
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Confidentiality: This e-mail and its attachments are intended
> > > for the above named only and may be confidential. If they 
> > > have come to you in error you must take no action based on 
> > > them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply 
> > > to this e-mail and highlight the error.
> > > 
> > > Security Warning: Please note that this e-mail has been
> > > created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a 100% 
> > > secure communications medium. We advise that you understand 
> > > and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us.
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> > > Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this
> > > e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise 
> > > that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient 
> > > should take steps to confirm that they are actually virus free.
> > > 
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Re: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Paul Hutchings
Sometimes users get sent legitimate executables, they get blocked because of
the extention, so I have to copy it to a share for them to retrieve it - I'm
then reliant on the AV on my desktop, what I'd prefer is for the virus
checker to say "is it infected" before it looks at whether it should
quarantine that sort of file.

Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but that's just how I'd like it to
work - in fairness with 3.81 they're most of the way there with the
integrated quarantine manager section.

regards
paul
- Original Message - 
From: "Ward, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?


> Why would it need to?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
>
>
> No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was to scan
> attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had loads of bugbears
> quarantined for being .exe's , but it doesn't seem to actually scan them
as
> well.
>
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> >
> >
> > You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it
> > functions a LOT better.
> >
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which
> > > doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I
> > > have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and
> > > yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to
> > > the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected
> > > attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual
> > > scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now
> > > in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos
> > > AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> > >
> > > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if
> > > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely
> > > solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see
> > > what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought,
> > > non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users
> > > about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Tim Gowen
> > > RAF Museum
> > > IT Dept.
> > >
> > >
> > > Confidentiality: This e-mail and its attachments are intended
> > > for the above named only and may be confidential. If they
> > > have come to you in error you must take no action based on
> > > them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply
> > > to this e-mail and highlight the error.
> > >
> > > Security Warning: Please note that this e-mail has been
> > > created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a 100%
> > > secure communications medium. We advise that you understand
> > > and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us.
> > >
> > > Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this
> > > e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise
> > > that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient
> > > should take steps to confirm that they are actually virus free.
> > >
> > >
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Re: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Ray Beckwith
We had this issue a while back when we first started using ScanMail. We
found out from Trend that when ScanMail runs in MAPI mode, it doesn't scan
the attachments until AFTER the message is in the inbox; which leaves the
possibility if the server is extremely busy scanning, the user could see
and even open the message before the scanner gets to it.

The solution was to run ScanMail in AVAPI mode instead. This mode
intercepts attachments before they reach the IS. Just be sure you have
upgraded to the latest version of ScanMail and the latest Exchange SP
first as there have been issues with AVAPI mode in earlier versions
crashing the IS. Check the list archives for this topic. I know it was
discussed here a couple years ago.

Good Luck.
Ray

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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Brian Ko
I'd check your Scan Engine and make sure you have the latest scan engine
& pattern file.  I'd also enable AVAPI if you're not yet.

Brian

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I don't know what the deal is with this latest version of BugBear, but
it's really a problem.  

I started having issues with it on the 4th.  

The remote access and key logger are the scary parts of this worm.

I have had it get past two A/V scanners.  One on mail and one on
workstations.  I have double extensions blocked and all the usual
extensions too.

I recommend everyone be on alert for this one:

http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100358.htm

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=PE_BUGBE
AR.B

-Kevin


> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:25 AM
> Posted To: Exchange
> Conversation: ScanMail missing tricks?
> Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> 
> A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> doesn't ever
> happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I have ScanMail 
> 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and yet this
> BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to the Inbox. 
>  A Manual scan
> showed up six other virus-infected attachments which had 
> apparently got
> through.  But the manual scan does not pick up the file I 
> just mentioned,
> which is now in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive 
> and Sophos
> AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> 
> Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> several arrive
> at once, or is there another more likely solution?  I have 
> sent the file to
> Trend and Sophos to see what they say, but the attachment 
> blocking was, I
> thought, non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger 
> my users about
> the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> 
> 
>   Tim
> 
> -- 
> Tim Gowen  
> RAF Museum
> IT Dept.
>  
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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Ward, Stuart
Why would it need to?

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?


No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was to scan
attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had loads of bugbears
quarantined for being .exe's , but it doesn't seem to actually scan them as
well.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it
> functions a LOT better.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> > doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I 
> > have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and 
> > yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to 
> > the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected 
> > attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual 
> > scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now 
> > in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos 
> > AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> > 
> > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely 
> > solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see 
> > what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought, 
> > non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users 
> > about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> > 
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > -- 
> > Tim Gowen  
> > RAF Museum
> > IT Dept.
> >  
> > 
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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Paul Hutchings
No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was to scan
attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had loads of bugbears
quarantined for being .exe's , but it doesn't seem to actually scan them as
well.

regards,
Paul
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> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it
> functions a LOT better.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> > doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I 
> > have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and 
> > yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to 
> > the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected 
> > attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual 
> > scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now 
> > in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos 
> > AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> > 
> > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely 
> > solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see 
> > what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought, 
> > non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users 
> > about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> > 
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > -- 
> > Tim Gowen  
> > RAF Museum
> > IT Dept.
> >  
> > 
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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Roger Seielstad
You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it
functions a LOT better.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> 
> A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I 
> have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and 
> yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to 
> the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected 
> attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual 
> scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now 
> in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos 
> AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> 
> Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> several arrive at once, or is there another more likely 
> solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see 
> what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought, 
> non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users 
> about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> 
> 
>   Tim
> 
> -- 
> Tim Gowen  
> RAF Museum
> IT Dept.
>  
> 
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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Public Folder: Exchange


I don't know what the deal is with this latest version of BugBear, but
it's really a problem.  

I started having issues with it on the 4th.  

The remote access and key logger are the scary parts of this worm.

I have had it get past two A/V scanners.  One on mail and one on
workstations.  I have double extensions blocked and all the usual
extensions too.

I recommend everyone be on alert for this one:

http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100358.htm

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=PE_BUGBE
AR.B

-Kevin


> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:25 AM
> Posted To: Exchange
> Conversation: ScanMail missing tricks?
> Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> 
> A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> doesn't ever
> happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I have ScanMail 
> 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and yet this
> BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to the Inbox. 
>  A Manual scan
> showed up six other virus-infected attachments which had 
> apparently got
> through.  But the manual scan does not pick up the file I 
> just mentioned,
> which is now in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive 
> and Sophos
> AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> 
> Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> several arrive
> at once, or is there another more likely solution?  I have 
> sent the file to
> Trend and Sophos to see what they say, but the attachment 
> blocking was, I
> thought, non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger 
> my users about
> the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> 
> 
>   Tim
> 
> -- 
> Tim Gowen  
> RAF Museum
> IT Dept.
>  
> 
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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Robert Moir
Is the size of the attachment incorrect in the email that goes
undetected? 
 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 06 June 2003 15:25
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> 
> A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I 
> have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and 
> yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to 
> the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected 
> attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual 
> scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now 
> in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos 
> AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> 
> Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> several arrive at once, or is there another more likely 
> solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see 
> what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought, 
> non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users 
> about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> 
> 
>   Tim
> 
> --
> Tim Gowen
> RAF Museum
> IT Dept.
>  
> 
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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)


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-Original Message-
From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?



A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which doesn't ever
happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and yet this
BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to the Inbox.  A Manual scan
showed up six other virus-infected attachments which had apparently got
through.  But the manual scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned,
which is now in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos
AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.

Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if several arrive
at once, or is there another more likely solution?  I have sent the file to
Trend and Sophos to see what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I
thought, non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users about
the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.


Tim

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RAF Museum
IT Dept.
 

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ScanMail missing tricks?

2003-06-06 Thread Tim Gowen

A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which doesn't ever
happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and yet this
BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to the Inbox.  A Manual scan
showed up six other virus-infected attachments which had apparently got
through.  But the manual scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned,
which is now in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos
AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.

Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if several arrive
at once, or is there another more likely solution?  I have sent the file to
Trend and Sophos to see what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I
thought, non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users about
the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.


Tim

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RAF Museum
IT Dept.
 

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