SMIME/Encryption and Slow Performance on Client

2003-11-06 Thread Erik L. Vesneski
Hi,

I have a few users using SMIME and Digital Signatures when emailing
internally as well as with a nother external company.

- When emailing internaly with the 'Encrypt messages and attachments'
the end user has fast performance via Outlook.

- When emailing externally with the 'Encrypt messages and attachments'
& the 'Add digital signature to this message' they are 'hourglassed'
sending the email for about 30 seconds.  If they receive an email back
with the same level of encryption from the external company it takes 80
seconds for the email to open up after typing in the users pw.

- The digital signature has been added locally from the external users.

Outside of normal testing internally and externally I am unsure of why
the long delay is occuring.

Is this due to the digital signatures, the SMIME, CA, or anything in the
Exchange environment?

Or is this normal?


Thanks in advance,

Erik L. Vesneski 
Intel Lead - WCDC/ISO 
www.pmigroup.com 
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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Webb, Andy

Purely from an Exchange I/O perspective, given the choice between 500MB
of RAID10 storage built out of 72GB drives (16 of them roughly) and
500MB of RAID10 storage built out of 18GB drives (64 of them roughly),
the 18GB drive setup will be measurably faster than the other.

A higher number of smaller spindles will benefit performance.  Adjusting
your design to optimize more toward the money axis will cost
performance.

Also remember that many of the E2K white papers were written before 72GB
drives were commonly available.  Just because the "common" size is now
36GB+ doesn't change the fact that 4 18GB drives in a stripe set are
faster than 1 72GB drive though.  One must consider the availability of
the parts though, so perhaps 32x36GB drives would be a good way to
balance performance and storage cost.

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Andy Webb[EMAIL PROTECTED]  www.swinc.com
Simpler-Webb, Inc.   Austin, TX512-322-0071
=== 

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:25 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Slow performance
Subject: RE: Slow performance


I am serious. I remember reading a white paper about Hosted Exchange and
they wrote about that.

-Original Message-
From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Are  you sure about that or are you referring to MS Disk Manager and
RAID5. Many SANS have luns set up for RAID on 36 or even 72 gig or
larger drives.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Isn't there a white paper from MS that does not recommend building RAID5
with drives larger than 18GB>

-Original Message-
From: Todd Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Are you referring to the array controller or the HGS80 controller?  If
it is a raid controller then, no you don't have to CHANGE it regularly -
just charge it...when the time comes for a charge the system will inform
you.  You then initiate the charging process, and while it's charging
the cache will be disabled.


Also, Raid 5 on the SAN?  I have seen serious performance drops using
large raid 5 sets with a san.  


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

A consensus? Probably no. But I'd tend to agree that if the controller
has a battery[1], it's OK to have it on.

[1] Those need to be changed regularly.. If this is news to you, you
should have the cache disabled.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Is there a concensus on this?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> I always thought that write-back cache should be always
> turned off, whether it has battery or not.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only
> recommends that this is enabled when the cache on the 
> controller has a battery, but it does sound like this might 
> be the case.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your
> disk stats look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you 
> better advice about what perfmon items to look for to help 
> track down the issue.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used
> with 70.7 gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  
> The drives are brand new drives and the database is also new. 
>  We just migrated the users over to this server about four 
> we

RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Kevin Miller

EMC clarion. Raid 5

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Is it RAID10?

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 6:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


I just bought a SAN with 20 72 gig disks in .

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


I am serious. I remember reading a white paper about Hosted Exchange and
they wrote about that.

-Original Message-
From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Are  you sure about that or are you referring to MS Disk Manager and
RAID5. Many SANS have luns set up for RAID on 36 or even 72 gig or
larger drives.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Isn't there a white paper from MS that does not recommend building RAID5
with drives larger than 18GB>

-Original Message-
From: Todd Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Are you referring to the array controller or the HGS80 controller?  If
it is a raid controller then, no you don't have to CHANGE it regularly -
just charge it...when the time comes for a charge the system will inform
you.  You then initiate the charging process, and while it's charging
the cache will be disabled.


Also, Raid 5 on the SAN?  I have seen serious performance drops using
large raid 5 sets with a san.  


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

A consensus? Probably no. But I'd tend to agree that if the controller
has a battery[1], it's OK to have it on.

[1] Those need to be changed regularly.. If this is news to you, you
should have the cache disabled.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Is there a concensus on this?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> I always thought that write-back cache should be always turned off, 
> whether it has battery or not.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only recommends 
> that this is enabled when the cache on the controller has a battery, 
> but it does sound like this might be the case.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your disk stats 
> look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you better advice about 
> what perfmon items to look for to help track down the issue.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used with 70.7 
> gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.
> The drives are brand new drives and the database is also new. 
>  We just migrated the users over to this server about four 
> weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on it though.  
> 
> Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper on it to

> check for fragmentation proble

RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Is it RAID10?

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 6:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


I just bought a SAN with 20 72 gig disks in .

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


I am serious. I remember reading a white paper about Hosted Exchange and
they wrote about that.

-Original Message-
From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Are  you sure about that or are you referring to MS Disk Manager and
RAID5. Many SANS have luns set up for RAID on 36 or even 72 gig or
larger drives.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Isn't there a white paper from MS that does not recommend building RAID5
with drives larger than 18GB>

-Original Message-
From: Todd Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Are you referring to the array controller or the HGS80 controller?  If
it is a raid controller then, no you don't have to CHANGE it regularly -
just charge it...when the time comes for a charge the system will inform
you.  You then initiate the charging process, and while it's charging
the cache will be disabled.


Also, Raid 5 on the SAN?  I have seen serious performance drops using
large raid 5 sets with a san.  


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

A consensus? Probably no. But I'd tend to agree that if the controller
has a battery[1], it's OK to have it on.

[1] Those need to be changed regularly.. If this is news to you, you
should have the cache disabled.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Is there a concensus on this?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> I always thought that write-back cache should be always
> turned off, whether it has battery or not.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only
> recommends that this is enabled when the cache on the 
> controller has a battery, but it does sound like this might 
> be the case.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your
> disk stats look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you 
> better advice about what perfmon items to look for to help 
> track down the issue.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used
> with 70.7 gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  
> The drives are brand new drives and the database is also new. 
>  We just migrated the users over to this server about four 
> weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on it though.  
> 
> Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper
> on it to check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you 
> be running short of space?  How does your page file compare 
> to your RAM?
> 
> David
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discu

RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Kevin Miller

I just bought a SAN with 20 72 gig disks in .

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


I am serious. I remember reading a white paper about Hosted Exchange and
they wrote about that.

-Original Message-
From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Are  you sure about that or are you referring to MS Disk Manager and
RAID5. Many SANS have luns set up for RAID on 36 or even 72 gig or
larger drives.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Isn't there a white paper from MS that does not recommend building RAID5
with drives larger than 18GB>

-Original Message-
From: Todd Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Are you referring to the array controller or the HGS80 controller?  If
it is a raid controller then, no you don't have to CHANGE it regularly -
just charge it...when the time comes for a charge the system will inform
you.  You then initiate the charging process, and while it's charging
the cache will be disabled.


Also, Raid 5 on the SAN?  I have seen serious performance drops using
large raid 5 sets with a san.  


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

A consensus? Probably no. But I'd tend to agree that if the controller
has a battery[1], it's OK to have it on.

[1] Those need to be changed regularly.. If this is news to you, you
should have the cache disabled.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Is there a concensus on this?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> I always thought that write-back cache should be always
> turned off, whether it has battery or not.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only
> recommends that this is enabled when the cache on the 
> controller has a battery, but it does sound like this might 
> be the case.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your
> disk stats look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you 
> better advice about what perfmon items to look for to help 
> track down the issue.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used
> with 70.7 gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  
> The drives are brand new drives and the database is also new. 
>  We just migrated the users over to this server about four 
> weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on it though.  
> 
> Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper
> on it to check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you 
> be running short of space?  How does your page file compare 
> to your RAM?
> 
> David
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is
> being heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the 
> calendar

RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

I am serious. I remember reading a white paper about Hosted Exchange and they wrote 
about that.

-Original Message-
From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Are  you sure about that or are you referring to MS Disk Manager and RAID5.
Many SANS have luns set up for RAID on 36 or even 72 gig or larger drives.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Isn't there a white paper from MS that does not recommend building RAID5
with drives larger than 18GB>

-Original Message-
From: Todd Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Are you referring to the array controller or the HGS80 controller?  If
it is a raid controller then, no you don't have to CHANGE it regularly -
just charge it...when the time comes for a charge the system will inform
you.  You then initiate the charging process, and while it's charging
the cache will be disabled.


Also, Raid 5 on the SAN?  I have seen serious performance drops using
large raid 5 sets with a san.  


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

A consensus? Probably no. But I'd tend to agree that if the controller
has a
battery[1], it's OK to have it on.

[1] Those need to be changed regularly.. If this is news to you, you
should
have the cache disabled.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Is there a concensus on this?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> I always thought that write-back cache should be always 
> turned off, whether it has battery or not.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only 
> recommends that this is enabled when the cache on the 
> controller has a battery, but it does sound like this might 
> be the case.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your 
> disk stats look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you 
> better advice about what perfmon items to look for to help 
> track down the issue.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used 
> with 70.7 gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  
> The drives are brand new drives and the database is also new. 
>  We just migrated the users over to this server about four 
> weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on it though.  
> 
> Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper 
> on it to check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you 
> be running short of space?  How does your page file compare 
> to your RAM?
> 
> David
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is 
> being heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the 
> calendars and quite a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep 
> poking around, this just gets so frustrating when everyone is 
> screaming in your ear that "email is down".
> 
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Todd Raymond

I believe he was referring to a SAN configuration - and yes, MS does not
recommend using large raid 5 sets on a SAN.  Raid 10 is the preferred
method.

Exchange 2k writes in small 4k blocks.  Using raid 10 with 15K drives
would really up the performance.  It also matters how the data files are
broken up in Exchange.

If you email me directly I can provide some performance counters which
can help pinpoint the bottle neck.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think you may be best suited if you rebuild the SAN properly...



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Meunier
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

If so, that would be hilarious, right up there with "640k should be
enough for anybody."  I would hope it's just as much an urban legend.

> -Original Message-
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> Posted At: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:05 PM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
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> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Isn't there a white paper from MS that does not recommend 
> building RAID5 with drives larger than 18GB>

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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Tom Meunier

If so, that would be hilarious, right up there with "640k should be
enough for anybody."  I would hope it's just as much an urban legend.

> -Original Message-
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> Posted At: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:05 PM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
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> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Isn't there a white paper from MS that does not recommend 
> building RAID5 with drives larger than 18GB>

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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Chinnery Paul

Are  you sure about that or are you referring to MS Disk Manager and RAID5.
Many SANS have luns set up for RAID on 36 or even 72 gig or larger drives.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Isn't there a white paper from MS that does not recommend building RAID5
with drives larger than 18GB>

-Original Message-
From: Todd Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Are you referring to the array controller or the HGS80 controller?  If
it is a raid controller then, no you don't have to CHANGE it regularly -
just charge it...when the time comes for a charge the system will inform
you.  You then initiate the charging process, and while it's charging
the cache will be disabled.


Also, Raid 5 on the SAN?  I have seen serious performance drops using
large raid 5 sets with a san.  


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

A consensus? Probably no. But I'd tend to agree that if the controller
has a
battery[1], it's OK to have it on.

[1] Those need to be changed regularly.. If this is news to you, you
should
have the cache disabled.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Is there a concensus on this?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> I always thought that write-back cache should be always 
> turned off, whether it has battery or not.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only 
> recommends that this is enabled when the cache on the 
> controller has a battery, but it does sound like this might 
> be the case.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your 
> disk stats look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you 
> better advice about what perfmon items to look for to help 
> track down the issue.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used 
> with 70.7 gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  
> The drives are brand new drives and the database is also new. 
>  We just migrated the users over to this server about four 
> weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on it though.  
> 
> Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper 
> on it to check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you 
> be running short of space?  How does your page file compare 
> to your RAM?
> 
> David
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is 
> being heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the 
> calendars and quite a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep 
> poking around, this just gets so frustrating when everyone is 
> screaming in your ear that "email is down".
> 
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a 
> network issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the 
> kb's.  Our server was 

RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Isn't there a white paper from MS that does not recommend building RAID5 with drives 
larger than 18GB>

-Original Message-
From: Todd Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Are you referring to the array controller or the HGS80 controller?  If
it is a raid controller then, no you don't have to CHANGE it regularly -
just charge it...when the time comes for a charge the system will inform
you.  You then initiate the charging process, and while it's charging
the cache will be disabled.


Also, Raid 5 on the SAN?  I have seen serious performance drops using
large raid 5 sets with a san.  


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

A consensus? Probably no. But I'd tend to agree that if the controller
has a
battery[1], it's OK to have it on.

[1] Those need to be changed regularly.. If this is news to you, you
should
have the cache disabled.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Is there a concensus on this?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> I always thought that write-back cache should be always 
> turned off, whether it has battery or not.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only 
> recommends that this is enabled when the cache on the 
> controller has a battery, but it does sound like this might 
> be the case.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your 
> disk stats look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you 
> better advice about what perfmon items to look for to help 
> track down the issue.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used 
> with 70.7 gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  
> The drives are brand new drives and the database is also new. 
>  We just migrated the users over to this server about four 
> weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on it though.  
> 
> Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper 
> on it to check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you 
> be running short of space?  How does your page file compare 
> to your RAM?
> 
> David
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is 
> being heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the 
> calendars and quite a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep 
> poking around, this just gets so frustrating when everyone is 
> screaming in your ear that "email is down".
> 
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a 
> network issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the 
> kb's.  Our server was running at like 15% but the nic was 
> running at like 80 and killing the box.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> How much Ram do you have? 

RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Chris Scharff

I'm referring to controllers in general and not the specific one(s) used in
the original post. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Todd Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:54 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Are you referring to the array controller or the HGS80 
> controller?  If it is a raid controller then, no you don't 
> have to CHANGE it regularly - just charge it...when the time 
> comes for a charge the system will inform you.  You then 
> initiate the charging process, and while it's charging the 
> cache will be disabled.
> 
> 
> Also, Raid 5 on the SAN?  I have seen serious performance 
> drops using large raid 5 sets with a san.  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Scharff
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> A consensus? Probably no. But I'd tend to agree that if the 
> controller has a battery[1], it's OK to have it on.
> 
> [1] Those need to be changed regularly.. If this is news to 
> you, you should have the cache disabled.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:05 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Slow performance
> > 
> > 
> > Is there a concensus on this?
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Slow performance
> > 
> > 
> > I always thought that write-back cache should be always
> > turned off, whether it has battery or not.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Slow performance
> > 
> > 
> > hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only
> > recommends that this is enabled when the cache on the 
> > controller has a battery, but it does sound like this might 
> > be the case.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Slow performance
> > 
> > 
> > Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your
> > disk stats look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you 
> > better advice about what perfmon items to look for to help 
> > track down the issue.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Slow performance
> > 
> > 
> > The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used
> > with 70.7 gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  
> > The drives are brand new drives and the database is also new. 
> >  We just migrated the users over to this server about four 
> > weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on it though.  
> > 
> > Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.
> > 
> > Wilson
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Slow performance
> > 
> > What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper
> > on it to check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you 
> > be running short of space?  How does your page file compare 
> > to your RAM?
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Slow performance
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is
> > being heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the 
> > calendars and quite a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep 
> > poking around, this just gets so frustrating when everyone is 
> > screaming in your ear that "email is down".
> > 
> > 
> > Wilson
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
&g

RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Todd Raymond

Are you referring to the array controller or the HGS80 controller?  If
it is a raid controller then, no you don't have to CHANGE it regularly -
just charge it...when the time comes for a charge the system will inform
you.  You then initiate the charging process, and while it's charging
the cache will be disabled.


Also, Raid 5 on the SAN?  I have seen serious performance drops using
large raid 5 sets with a san.  


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

A consensus? Probably no. But I'd tend to agree that if the controller
has a
battery[1], it's OK to have it on.

[1] Those need to be changed regularly.. If this is news to you, you
should
have the cache disabled.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Is there a concensus on this?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> I always thought that write-back cache should be always 
> turned off, whether it has battery or not.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only 
> recommends that this is enabled when the cache on the 
> controller has a battery, but it does sound like this might 
> be the case.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your 
> disk stats look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you 
> better advice about what perfmon items to look for to help 
> track down the issue.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used 
> with 70.7 gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  
> The drives are brand new drives and the database is also new. 
>  We just migrated the users over to this server about four 
> weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on it though.  
> 
> Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper 
> on it to check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you 
> be running short of space?  How does your page file compare 
> to your RAM?
> 
> David
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is 
> being heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the 
> calendars and quite a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep 
> poking around, this just gets so frustrating when everyone is 
> screaming in your ear that "email is down".
> 
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a 
> network issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the 
> kb's.  Our server was running at like 15% but the nic was 
> running at like 80 and killing the box.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your 
> calander that people access at the same time?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Slow perform

RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Chris Scharff

A consensus? Probably no. But I'd tend to agree that if the controller has a
battery[1], it's OK to have it on.

[1] Those need to be changed regularly.. If this is news to you, you should
have the cache disabled.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Is there a concensus on this?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> I always thought that write-back cache should be always 
> turned off, whether it has battery or not.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only 
> recommends that this is enabled when the cache on the 
> controller has a battery, but it does sound like this might 
> be the case.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your 
> disk stats look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you 
> better advice about what perfmon items to look for to help 
> track down the issue.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used 
> with 70.7 gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  
> The drives are brand new drives and the database is also new. 
>  We just migrated the users over to this server about four 
> weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on it though.  
> 
> Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper 
> on it to check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you 
> be running short of space?  How does your page file compare 
> to your RAM?
> 
> David
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is 
> being heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the 
> calendars and quite a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep 
> poking around, this just gets so frustrating when everyone is 
> screaming in your ear that "email is down".
> 
> 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a 
> network issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the 
> kb's.  Our server was running at like 15% but the nic was 
> running at like 80 and killing the box.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Slow performance
> 
> How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your 
> calander that people access at the same time?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The 
> machine is a Compaq DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The 
> store drives are 5*32 gig (Raid 5) and the log and index 
> files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.
> 
> 
> Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 
> seconds to switch to a different folder or to access the 
> calendar.  Dismissing a calendar event can lock up outlook 
> for several minutes.
> 
> The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything 
> els

RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Edgington, Jeff

We went through this discussion with MS (via Premiere Support) and at
lease with a Dell SAN they told us to turn it on.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Is there a concensus on this?


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


I always thought that write-back cache should be always turned off,
whether it has battery or not.

-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only recommends that
this is enabled when the cache on the controller has a battery, but it
does sound like this might be the case.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your disk stats
look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you better advice about what
perfmon items to look for to help track down the issue.


-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used with 70.7
gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  The drives are brand
new drives and the database is also new.  We just migrated the users
over to this server about four weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on
it though.  

Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  

Wilson




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper on it to
check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you be running short of
space?  How does your page file compare to your RAM?

David

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being
heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite
a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so
frustrating when everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".


Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig
(Raid 5) and the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.


Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes.

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do to speed this up a bit?

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Dflorea

Is there a concensus on this?


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


I always thought that write-back cache should be always turned off,
whether it has battery or not.

-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only recommends that
this is enabled when the cache on the controller has a battery, but it
does sound like this might be the case.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your disk stats
look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you better advice about what
perfmon items to look for to help track down the issue.


-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used with 70.7
gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  The drives are brand
new drives and the database is also new.  We just migrated the users
over to this server about four weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on
it though.  

Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  

Wilson




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper on it to
check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you be running short of
space?  How does your page file compare to your RAM?

David

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being
heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite
a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so
frustrating when everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".


Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig
(Raid 5) and the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.


Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes.

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do to speed this up a bit?

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-11 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

I always thought that write-back cache should be always turned off, whether it has 
battery or not.

-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only recommends that
this is enabled when the cache on the controller has a battery, but it
does sound like this might be the case.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your disk stats
look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you better advice about what
perfmon items to look for to help track down the issue.


-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used with 70.7
gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  The drives are brand
new drives and the database is also new.  We just migrated the users
over to this server about four weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on
it though.  

Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  

Wilson




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper on it to
check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you be running short of
space?  How does your page file compare to your RAM?

David

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being
heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite
a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so
frustrating when everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".


Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig
(Raid 5) and the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.


Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes.

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do to speed this up a bit?

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-10 Thread Varghese, Wilson

Yeah we looked into the cache and it is enabled with size of 32k.. good point though.  
I've so far checked all the SAN settings and it seems fine.  

Ugh.. I guess I'll move the public folder to a different store on a different mirror 
set.  See if that helps.. 





-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only recommends that
this is enabled when the cache on the controller has a battery, but it
does sound like this might be the case.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your disk stats
look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you better advice about what
perfmon items to look for to help track down the issue.


-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used with 70.7
gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  The drives are brand
new drives and the database is also new.  We just migrated the users
over to this server about four weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on
it though. 

Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive. 

Wilson




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper on it to
check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you be running short of
space?  How does your page file compare to your RAM?

David

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being
heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite
a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so
frustrating when everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".


Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig
(Raid 5) and the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.


Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes.

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do to speed this up a bit?

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-10 Thread Edgington, Jeff

hrm... possibly you have write cache disabled... MS only recommends that
this is enabled when the cache on the controller has a battery, but it
does sound like this might be the case.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your disk stats
look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you better advice about what
perfmon items to look for to help track down the issue.


-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used with 70.7
gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  The drives are brand
new drives and the database is also new.  We just migrated the users
over to this server about four weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on
it though.  

Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  

Wilson




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper on it to
check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you be running short of
space?  How does your page file compare to your RAM?

David

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being
heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite
a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so
frustrating when everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".


Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig
(Raid 5) and the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.


Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes.

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do to speed this up a bit?

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-10 Thread Tener, Richard

lmfao

-Original Message-
From: Katz, Gordon J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


It solved the problem here, we had 3000 contacts in a public folder,
Secretaries where getting incredibly upset. When I tested this in the lab it
worked great, when I applied it to the live server I became a hero

Gordon 



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From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks Katz, never thought there was resolution for this problem, now maybe
I can try it out this weekend.

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Katz, Gordon J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Q216076



Gordon 



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From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


I hear that, I have a huge public contact folder and when people save info
to it, it takes about 45 seconds to save as well.  I just told them that its
so big thats why its slow. I guess there really is no solution for a large
amount of data for a public folder.

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being heavily
used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite a few people
use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so frustrating when
everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".  

Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network issue.
Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was running at
like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander that
people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a Compaq
DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig (Raid 5) and
the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition. 

Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes. 

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can do
to speed this up a bit? 

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-10 Thread Katz, Gordon J.

It solved the problem here, we had 3000 contacts in a public folder,
Secretaries where getting incredibly upset. When I tested this in the lab it
worked great, when I applied it to the live server I became a hero

Gordon 



-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks Katz, never thought there was resolution for this problem, now maybe
I can try it out this weekend.

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Katz, Gordon J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Q216076



Gordon 



-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


I hear that, I have a huge public contact folder and when people save info
to it, it takes about 45 seconds to save as well.  I just told them that its
so big thats why its slow. I guess there really is no solution for a large
amount of data for a public folder.

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being heavily
used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite a few people
use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so frustrating when
everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".  

Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network issue.
Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was running at
like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander that
people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a Compaq
DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig (Raid 5) and
the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition. 

Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes. 

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can do
to speed this up a bit? 

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-10 Thread Tener, Richard

Thanks Katz, never thought there was resolution for this problem, now maybe
I can try it out this weekend.

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Katz, Gordon J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Q216076



Gordon 



-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


I hear that, I have a huge public contact folder and when people save info
to it, it takes about 45 seconds to save as well.  I just told them that its
so big thats why its slow. I guess there really is no solution for a large
amount of data for a public folder.

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being heavily
used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite a few people
use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so frustrating when
everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".  

Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network issue.
Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was running at
like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander that
people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a Compaq
DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig (Raid 5) and
the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition. 

Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes. 

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can do
to speed this up a bit? 

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-10 Thread Gonzalez, Alex

Do you do full text indexing.  That can kill your box.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your disk stats
look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you better advice about what
perfmon items to look for to help track down the issue.


-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used with 70.7
gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  The drives are brand
new drives and the database is also new.  We just migrated the users
over to this server about four weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on
it though.  

Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  

Wilson




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper on it to
check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you be running short of
space?  How does your page file compare to your RAM?

David

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being
heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite
a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so
frustrating when everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".


Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig
(Raid 5) and the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.


Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes.

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do to speed this up a bit?

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-10 Thread Hurst, Paul

Can you confirm that running the client on the server is slow? IE
eliminating the network.

Cheers
Paul
Toothbrushes are like standards,
everybody wants one but not yours 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 September 2002 23:18
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your disk stats
look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you better advice about what
perfmon items to look for to help track down the issue.


-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used with 70.7
gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  The drives are brand
new drives and the database is also new.  We just migrated the users
over to this server about four weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on
it though.  

Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  

Wilson




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper on it to
check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you be running short of
space?  How does your page file compare to your RAM?

David

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being
heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite
a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so
frustrating when everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".


Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig
(Raid 5) and the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.


Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes.

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do to speed this up a bit?

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-09 Thread Dflorea

Don't do diskkeeper against your store.  The rest of your disk stats
look to be OK.  Maybe someone else can give you better advice about what
perfmon items to look for to help track down the issue.


-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used with 70.7
gigs free.. both pub and priv are on this drive.  The drives are brand
new drives and the database is also new.  We just migrated the users
over to this server about four weeks ago.  I have not run diskkeeper on
it though.  

Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  

Wilson




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper on it to
check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you be running short of
space?  How does your page file compare to your RAM?

David

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being
heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite
a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so
frustrating when everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".


Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig
(Raid 5) and the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.


Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes.

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do to speed this up a bit?

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-09 Thread Varghese, Wilson

The store is on a 135gig raid 5 partition.. 64gigs is used with 70.7 gigs free.. both 
pub and priv are on this drive.  The drives are brand new drives and the database is 
also new.  We just migrated the users over to this server about four weeks ago.  I 
have not run diskkeeper on it though.  

Ram = 1.5 gigs.. page file is 2gigs on the C drive.  

Wilson




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper on it to
check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you be running short of
space?  How does your page file compare to your RAM?

David

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being
heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite
a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so
frustrating when everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".


Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig
(Raid 5) and the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.


Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes.

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do to speed this up a bit?

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-09 Thread Dflorea

What kind of shape is your drive in?  Have you run diskkeeper on it to
check for fragmentation problems, and/or could you be running short of
space?  How does your page file compare to your RAM?

David

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being
heavily used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite
a few people use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so
frustrating when everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".


Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig
(Raid 5) and the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.


Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes. 

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do to speed this up a bit? 

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-09 Thread Katz, Gordon J.

Q216076



Gordon 



-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


I hear that, I have a huge public contact folder and when people save info
to it, it takes about 45 seconds to save as well.  I just told them that its
so big thats why its slow. I guess there really is no solution for a large
amount of data for a public folder.

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being heavily
used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite a few people
use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so frustrating when
everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".  

Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network issue.
Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was running at
like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander that
people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a Compaq
DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig (Raid 5) and
the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition. 

Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes. 

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can do
to speed this up a bit? 

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-09 Thread Tener, Richard

I hear that, I have a huge public contact folder and when people save info
to it, it takes about 45 seconds to save as well.  I just told them that its
so big thats why its slow. I guess there really is no solution for a large
amount of data for a public folder.

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance


Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being heavily
used.  There is a lot of information in the calendars and quite a few people
use it heavily.  I'll keep poking around, this just gets so frustrating when
everyone is screaming in your ear that "email is down".  

Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that
people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq
DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig (Raid 5)
and
the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition. 

Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes. 

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do
to speed this up a bit? 

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-09 Thread Varghese, Wilson

Thanks.  I ran perfmon but it seems to show that the HDD is being heavily used.  There 
is a lot of information in the calendars and quite a few people use it heavily.  I'll 
keep poking around, this just gets so frustrating when everyone is screaming in your 
ear that "email is down".  

Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that
people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq
DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig (Raid 5)
and
the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition. 

Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes. 

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do
to speed this up a bit? 

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-09 Thread Varghese, Wilson

1.5 gigs or ram.  

Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander that
people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a Compaq
DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig (Raid 5) and
the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition. 

Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes. 

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can do
to speed this up a bit? 

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-09 Thread Gonzalez, Alex

We have the same problem but we have narrowed it down to a network
issue.  Run perfmon on the interface and check the kb's.  Our server was
running at like 15% but the nic was running at like 80 and killing the
box.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slow performance

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander
that
people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a
Compaq
DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig (Raid 5)
and
the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.  

Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes.  

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can
do
to speed this up a bit?  

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks, 
Wilson









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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-09 Thread Chris Scharff

Perfmon will be your friend initially. There's no reason this should be slow
offhand, so pinpointing the bottleneck may take a bit of poking about.

> -Original Message-
> From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:45 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Slow performance
> 
> 
> Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The 
> machine is a Compaq DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The 
> store drives are 5*32 gig (Raid 5) and the log and index 
> files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.  
> 
> Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 
> seconds to switch to a different folder or to access the 
> calendar.  Dismissing a calendar event can lock up outlook 
> for several minutes.  
> 
> The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything 
> else I can do to speed this up a bit?  
> 
> If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.
> 
> Thanks, 
> Wilson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Slow performance

2002-09-09 Thread Tener, Richard

How much Ram do you have? Also is there a ton of info in your calander that
people access at the same time?

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow performance


Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a Compaq
DL380 hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig (Raid 5) and
the log and index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.  

Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to
switch to a different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a
calendar event can lock up outlook for several minutes.  

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can do
to speed this up a bit?  

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks, 
Wilson









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Slow performance

2002-09-09 Thread Varghese, Wilson

Exch 2k sp2 on win2k sp2 machine (with 150 users)  The machine is a Compaq DL380 
hooked up to a Compaq SAN.  The store drives are 5*32 gig (Raid 5) and the log and 
index files are on a mirrored 32 gig partition.  

Calendar and folder switching is very slow.  Takes about 45 seconds to switch to a 
different folder or to access the calendar.  Dismissing a calendar event can lock up 
outlook for several minutes.  

The log files and indexes are on separate drives but anything else I can do to speed 
this up a bit?  

If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful.

Thanks, 
Wilson









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