RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue

2008-02-18 Thread Raymond Brighenti
 

I'd have to agree here, we've used them for years and they created bout
4 hotfixes for latest release of IMSS when it was released for us
because of a simply unbelievable bug. (They had a option to hook into
LDAP to check if an email address existed but only checked the Primary
SMTP and no others!)

 

Oh, and when they release the previous version of Scanmail for Exchange
there was a default setting for maximum size of attachments to check
(about 5mb), what they didn't mention is that it would delete any
attachments over that criteria also in the exchange store!

 

We've moved off using them for our servers but Officescan isn't too bad,
but I still put them up there with MS when you need to install/upgrade
their product...wait until SP1!!

 

From: Matt Lathrum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 February 2008 16:44
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue

 

I used to be that way, and have used IMSS for years, but they've gone
downhill the past couple of years.  We're ready to jump ship.

 

 

From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue

 

I'll take Trend over just about any other AV vendor any day.

 

 

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:00 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: From another list I read: Trend Issue

 

This is not the FIRST time they did this. Hence the reason we went away
from Trend.

 



From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT: From another list I read: Trend Issue

Just a quick FYI Trend sent out a bad DAT version 4.995 around 10AM EST
today (2/12/08). If you are running Trend and have an issue you need to
roll back to 4.993. Problems experienced include extremely high disk I/O
load and network problems.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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RE: Recovery Storage Groups

2008-02-18 Thread Sobey, Richard A
Been following the rest of this thread, and you need to move this user
back to the group/store s/he was on when it was backed up, else exmerge
will throw a wobbly.
 
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 February 2008 16:56
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Recovery Storage Groups
 
I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them.  I've
already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere.  So either
they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago.  I have
a monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to
check to see if they were there.  The only trouble is that we had a
corrupted store in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a
different store now. The user's folder was originally backed up in the
original store.  I've created a recovery storage group, but am not sure
which store to choose to restore the data.  Any ideas?  Also on a side
note, when doing the restore in backup exec, there is no option to
choose the recovery storage group to restore to.  Does this just happen
by default?
Thanks
 

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step 1

2008-02-18 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
OK, I admit I am powerless over Exchange and my life has become
unmanageable.

My dumbest move of 2008 (and it's only February)...

We have Ex 2K3 running at Site1 and are connected to Site2 via a 3mb MPLS
connection.  One domain over both.

I brought up a second Ex 2k3 server at Site2, thinking I was creating some
reliability.

RIGHT...!

Now, when the Site2 Ex 2k3 server is down, Site1 users get Exchange is
off-line messages.

1. Where did I go wrong (aside from not testing this under virtualization we
don't have)?

2. And is there a path out of the quicksand?

Thanks in advance

G. Waleed Kavalec
-
In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are
in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination,
from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue
but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners,
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RE: step 1

2008-02-18 Thread Carl Houseman
We are clueless here because you've said nothing about:
 
a) why and for whom you thought a second E2K3 would create reliability
b) the steps you took in bringing up the E2K3 at site 2
b) what the topology of DCs and GC's happens to be, before and after
 
Generally speaking, when you document the history and configuration to the
extent that those who know nothing about it will understand it, you will end
up understanding it better yourself, and in so doing you might even figure
out the problem.
 
Carl
 
  _  

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: step 1


OK, I admit I am powerless over Exchange and my life has become
unmanageable.

My dumbest move of 2008 (and it's only February)...

We have Ex 2K3 running at Site1 and are connected to Site2 via a 3mb MPLS
connection.  One domain over both.

I brought up a second Ex 2k3 server at Site2, thinking I was creating some
reliability.

RIGHT...!

Now, when the Site2 Ex 2k3 server is down, Site1 users get Exchange is
off-line messages.

1. Where did I go wrong (aside from not testing this under virtualization we
don't have)?

2. And is there a path out of the quicksand?

Thanks in advance

G. Waleed Kavalec


 


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RE: step 1

2008-02-18 Thread ExchList
Very good points Carl!

 

Mr. G:

Did you happen to move all the mailboxes  PF to Site 2? If not, what
did you move over to site2?

 

Joseph Danielsen, CSBS, MCSA-Messaging, MCP

Network Blade Inc.

49 Marcy Street

Somerset, NJ 08873

732-213-0600

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:10 PM
Posted To: Exchange
Conversation: step 1
Subject: RE: step 1

 

We are clueless here because you've said nothing about:

 

a) why and for whom you thought a second E2K3 would create reliability

b) the steps you took in bringing up the E2K3 at site 2

b) what the topology of DCs and GC's happens to be, before and after

 

Generally speaking, when you document the history and configuration to
the extent that those who know nothing about it will understand it, you
will end up understanding it better yourself, and in so doing you might
even figure out the problem.

 

Carl

 



From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: step 1

OK, I admit I am powerless over Exchange and my life has become
unmanageable.

My dumbest move of 2008 (and it's only February)...

We have Ex 2K3 running at Site1 and are connected to Site2 via a 3mb
MPLS connection.  One domain over both.

I brought up a second Ex 2k3 server at Site2, thinking I was creating
some reliability.

RIGHT...!

Now, when the Site2 Ex 2k3 server is down, Site1 users get Exchange is
off-line messages.

1. Where did I go wrong (aside from not testing this under
virtualization we don't have)?

2. And is there a path out of the quicksand?

Thanks in advance

G. Waleed Kavalec

 

 

 


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Re: step 1

2008-02-18 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
a)  We need site2 to be usable as a back-up / disaster recovery site, even
though it is already up and running production (not my design); the idea was
to have a second set of mailboxes there with alternate email addresses and a
second smtp outgoing channel.

b)  at site2 I simply installed E2k3 and checked  this is an additional
server.

c)  GC was likely most of my problem, so you were far less clueless that I

Thanks



On Feb 18, 2008 12:09 PM, Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  We are clueless here because you've said nothing about:

 a) why and for whom you thought a second E2K3 would create reliability
 b) the steps you took in bringing up the E2K3 at site 2
 b) what the topology of DCs and GC's happens to be, before and after

 Generally speaking, when you document the history and configuration to the
 extent that those who know nothing about it will understand it, you will end
 up understanding it better yourself, and in so doing you might even figure
 out the problem.

 Carl

  --
 *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2008 12:46 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* step 1

 OK, I admit I am powerless over Exchange and my life has become
 unmanageable.

 My dumbest move of 2008 (and it's only February)...

 We have Ex 2K3 running at Site1 and are connected to Site2 via a 3mb MPLS
 connection.  One domain over both.

 I brought up a second Ex 2k3 server at Site2, thinking I was creating some
 reliability.

 RIGHT...!

 Now, when the Site2 Ex 2k3 server is down, Site1 users get Exchange is
 off-line messages.

 1. Where did I go wrong (aside from not testing this under virtualization
 we don't have)?

 2. And is there a path out of the quicksand?

 Thanks in advance

 G. Waleed Kavalec








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from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue
but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners,
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Re: step 1

2008-02-18 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
I moved zilch over to site2, but as it turns out (due to historical reasons)
the GC was on the site2 DC that became the site2 e2k3.

The short-story version: site2 was brought up 100% win2k3 nice and clean,
site1 is still a mixed bag, half of which is on our older 2k domain.


On Feb 18, 2008 1:30 PM, ExchList [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Very good points Carl!



 Mr. G:

 Did you happen to move all the mailboxes  PF to Site 2? If not, what did
 you move over to site2?



 Joseph Danielsen, CSBS, MCSA-Messaging, MCP

 Network Blade Inc.

 49 Marcy Street

 Somerset, NJ 08873

 732-213-0600

 *From:* Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Posted At:* Monday, February 18, 2008 1:10 PM
 *Posted To:* Exchange
 *Conversation:* step 1
 *Subject:* RE: step 1



 We are clueless here because you've said nothing about:



 a) why and for whom you thought a second E2K3 would create reliability

 b) the steps you took in bringing up the E2K3 at site 2

 b) what the topology of DCs and GC's happens to be, before and after



 Generally speaking, when you document the history and configuration to the
 extent that those who know nothing about it will understand it, you will end
 up understanding it better yourself, and in so doing you might even figure
 out the problem.



 Carl


  --

 *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2008 12:46 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* step 1

 OK, I admit I am powerless over Exchange and my life has become
 unmanageable.

 My dumbest move of 2008 (and it's only February)...

 We have Ex 2K3 running at Site1 and are connected to Site2 via a 3mb MPLS
 connection.  One domain over both.

 I brought up a second Ex 2k3 server at Site2, thinking I was creating some
 reliability.

 RIGHT...!

 Now, when the Site2 Ex 2k3 server is down, Site1 users get Exchange is
 off-line messages.

 1. Where did I go wrong (aside from not testing this under virtualization
 we don't have)?

 2. And is there a path out of the quicksand?

 Thanks in advance

 G. Waleed Kavalec












-- 
-- 
-- 
-- 

G. Waleed Kavalec
-
In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are
in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination,
from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue
but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners,
whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing.
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RE: step 1

2008-02-18 Thread gsweers
What you have envisioned is not a designed way for Exchange 03 to
function. A second set of mailboxes and emails is another database.
Outlook doesn't fail over to another database in the event of server1
failure.  

To do what you are thinking about takes a secondary software like
Doubletake to create a replication/fail over scenario.

b.  Is the new Exchange server in site 2, a DC/GC or is it just a member
server?

B1.  Did you create 2 sites in AD or is it just one Domain and AD
doesn't see one site different from the other(Just one big cloud)

 

Greg

 

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 2:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: step 1

 

a)  We need site2 to be usable as a back-up / disaster recovery site,
even though it is already up and running production (not my design); the
idea was to have a second set of mailboxes there with alternate email
addresses and a second smtp outgoing channel.

b)  at site2 I simply installed E2k3 and checked  this is an additional
server.

c)  GC was likely most of my problem, so you were far less clueless that
I 

Thanks




On Feb 18, 2008 12:09 PM, Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We are clueless here because you've said nothing about:

 

a) why and for whom you thought a second E2K3 would create reliability

b) the steps you took in bringing up the E2K3 at site 2

b) what the topology of DCs and GC's happens to be, before and after

 

Generally speaking, when you document the history and configuration to
the extent that those who know nothing about it will understand it, you
will end up understanding it better yourself, and in so doing you might
even figure out the problem.

 

Carl

 



From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: step 1

OK, I admit I am powerless over Exchange and my life has become
unmanageable.

My dumbest move of 2008 (and it's only February)...

We have Ex 2K3 running at Site1 and are connected to Site2 via a 3mb
MPLS connection.  One domain over both.

I brought up a second Ex 2k3 server at Site2, thinking I was creating
some reliability.

RIGHT...!

Now, when the Site2 Ex 2k3 server is down, Site1 users get Exchange is
off-line messages.

1. Where did I go wrong (aside from not testing this under
virtualization we don't have)?

2. And is there a path out of the quicksand?

Thanks in advance

G. Waleed Kavalec

 

 

 




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-- 
-- 
-- 

G. Waleed Kavalec
-
In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are
in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination,
from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue
but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners,
whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing.
-- Mark Twain 

 


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Re: step 1

2008-02-18 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
I am not looking for automatic failover.  I know that will take 3rd party
software to do with e2k3.* *

All I want is to be able to notify a few key clients: hey, hurricane! Per
plan A please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (and yes we
have both our domains registered)

While a hurricane is NOT in town I need site2 to be able to send via site2's
e2k3, and site1 via site1's.  MOST of the time both sites are up just fine,
running production, no problem.  But up thru a month ago site2 needed site1
to do email (including automatic emails), and as of my little oops BOTH
sites' need to be up.

Replicating the GC *may* have fixed that. I will know soon.





* It seems e2k7 can do failover though. Is this correct?

On Feb 18, 2008 2:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What you have envisioned is not a designed way for Exchange 03 to
 function. A second set of mailboxes and emails is another database.  Outlook
 doesn't fail over to another database in the event of server1 failure.

 To do what you are thinking about takes a secondary software like
 Doubletake to create a replication/fail over scenario.

 b.  Is the new Exchange server in site 2, a DC/GC or is it just a member
 server?

 B1.  Did you create 2 sites in AD or is it just one Domain and AD doesn't
 see one site different from the other(Just one big cloud)



 Greg



 *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2008 2:47 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: step 1



 a)  We need site2 to be usable as a back-up / disaster recovery site, even
 though it is already up and running production (not my design); the idea was
 to have a second set of mailboxes there with alternate email addresses and a
 second smtp outgoing channel.

 b)  at site2 I simply installed E2k3 and checked  this is an additional
 server.

 c)  GC was likely most of my problem, so you were far less clueless that I


 Thanks


  On Feb 18, 2008 12:09 PM, Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We are clueless here because you've said nothing about:



 a) why and for whom you thought a second E2K3 would create reliability

 b) the steps you took in bringing up the E2K3 at site 2

 b) what the topology of DCs and GC's happens to be, before and after



 Generally speaking, when you document the history and configuration to the
 extent that those who know nothing about it will understand it, you will end
 up understanding it better yourself, and in so doing you might even figure
 out the problem.



 Carl


  --

 *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2008 12:46 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* step 1

 OK, I admit I am powerless over Exchange and my life has become
 unmanageable.

 My dumbest move of 2008 (and it's only February)...

 We have Ex 2K3 running at Site1 and are connected to Site2 via a 3mb MPLS
 connection.  One domain over both.

 I brought up a second Ex 2k3 server at Site2, thinking I was creating some
 reliability.

 RIGHT...!

 Now, when the Site2 Ex 2k3 server is down, Site1 users get Exchange is
 off-line messages.

 1. Where did I go wrong (aside from not testing this under virtualization
 we don't have)?

 2. And is there a path out of the quicksand?

 Thanks in advance

 G. Waleed Kavalec










 --
 --
 --
 --

 G. Waleed Kavalec
 -
 In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are
 in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination,
 from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue
 but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners,
 whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing.
 -- Mark Twain








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-- 
-- 

G. Waleed Kavalec
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In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are
in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination,
from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue
but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners,
whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing.
-- Mark Twain

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Re: Recovery Storage Groups

2008-02-18 Thread Steve Ens
You bet, once I fixed that, everything fell into place...

On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Sobey, Richard A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  Been following the rest of this thread, and you need to move this user
 back to the group/store s/he was on when it was backed up, else exmergewill 
 throw a wobbly.



 *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* 15 February 2008 16:56
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups



 I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them.  I've
 already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere.  So either they
 were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago.  I have a
 monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to
 see if they were there.  The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store
 in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now.
 The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store.  I've
 created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to
 restore the data.  Any ideas?  Also on a side note, when doing the restore
 in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to
 restore to.  Does this just happen by default?
 Thanks






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Re: Recovery Storage Groups

2008-02-18 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Hows Florida Steve?

On Feb 18, 2008 7:57 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You bet, once I fixed that, everything fell into place...


 On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Sobey, Richard A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

   Been following the rest of this thread, and you need to move this user
  back to the group/store s/he was on when it was backed up, else exmergewill 
  throw a wobbly.
 
 
 
  *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *Sent:* 15 February 2008 16:56
  *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups
 
 
 
  I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them.  I've
  already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere.  So either they
  were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago.  I have a
  monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check to
  see if they were there.  The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store
  in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store now.
  The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store.  I've
  created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to
  restore the data.  Any ideas?  Also on a side note, when doing the restore
  in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to
  restore to.  Does this just happen by default?
  Thanks
 
 
 
 
 






-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

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Re: Recovery Storage Groups

2008-02-18 Thread Steve Ens
Nice...thanks for asking...Epcot yesterday, MGM Studios today...can't beat
wearing shorts and sandals after a few months of parkas and boots.

On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hows Florida Steve?


 On Feb 18, 2008 7:57 PM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You bet, once I fixed that, everything fell into place...
 
 
  On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Sobey, Richard A 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Been following the rest of this thread, and you need to move this
   user back to the group/store s/he was on when it was backed up, else
   exmerge will throw a wobbly.
  
  
  
   *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   *Sent:* 15 February 2008 16:56
   *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   *Subject:* Recovery Storage Groups
  
  
  
   I need to find a contacts folder for a user who has deleted them.
   I've already checked deleted items, DIR, etc...they are nowhere.  So 
   either
   they were moved somewhere, or deleted more than thirty days ago.  I have a
   monthly backup that was created about 6 months back that I want to check 
   to
   see if they were there.  The only trouble is that we had a corrupted store
   in between then and now and the the mailboxes are in a different store 
   now.
   The user's folder was originally backed up in the original store.  I've
   created a recovery storage group, but am not sure which store to choose to
   restore the data.  Any ideas?  Also on a side note, when doing the restore
   in backup exec, there is no option to choose the recovery storage group to
   restore to.  Does this just happen by default?
   Thanks
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 



  --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke




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