RE: Tar Pitting

2008-06-06 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
Pardon my asking, but why would you want to enable/use tar pitting?
What does it do other than slow down an SMTP conversation? 


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In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes
here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he
shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an
outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or
birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming
in every facet an American, and nothing but an American... There can be
no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but
something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one
flag, the American flag.. We have room for but one language here, and
that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole
loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.
Teddy Roosevelt; 1907

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From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 5:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tar Pitting

When you said it affects all recipients that suggested (to me anyway)
that both valid and invalid recipients would have a tarpit delay if
tarpitting was enabled.

 

Thank you for clarifying that that is not the case.  To give the 100%
correct summary: Messages that are accepted and all recipients are
valid are not delayed by tarpitting.

 

Carl

 

From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tar Pitting

 

It is all recipients - because it slows down any response that generates
5.x.x error code. That isn't just invalid recipients - but that is the
most common use for its protection. It can also slow down malformed
messages to valid recipients as well.  

 

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=842851

 

Simon. 

 

 

 



From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 June 2008 00:28
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tar Pitting

I'm afraid that Carl is 100% correct for Exchange 2003, the version used
by the OP.   Perhaps a change was made in Exchange 2007, I can't verify
that.

 

Carl

 

From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 5:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tar Pitting

 

Where the problems come with tarpitting is when people set the time
delay too long. To be effective it doesn't need to be more than 5
seconds. 

 

Carl isn't quite 100% correct in its behaviour. It affects all
recipients, valid or not. The idea is that a spammer is slowed down when
carrying out a directory harvest attack. I personally feel that you
shouldn't enable recipient filtering without tarpit. 

 

Tarpit is enabled by default in Exchange 2007. 

 

Simon. 

 

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From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 June 2008 21:25
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tar Pitting

Got it - it's not IP based but single message based - if that makes
sense.

 

thanks

 



From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tar Pitting

 

What is there to remember?

 

Tarpitting is simply this:

 

If you (the sending smtp server) tell me an invalid recipient, I am
going to wait for the tarpit delay time before I reject it and allow you
to continue the smtp conversation with me.

 

 

From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 4:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tar Pitting

 

So, the tar pitting component does not remember from one message to the
next - even in the same connection?

 



From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tar Pitting

 

The only way I can fathom that legitimate mail could be affected would
be when a message contains both valid and invalid recipients.  This
particular message would be delayed for the valid recipients by (number
of invalid recipients) * (tarpit delay time).   Unless there are dozens
of invalid recipients included in this message, the delay would not be
significant. 

Carl

 

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tar Pitting

 

Thanks, Carl.  I 

RE: Tar Pitting

2008-06-06 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Pardon my asking, but why would you want to enable/use tar pitting?
What does it do other than slow down an SMTP conversation?

http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Windows-based-SMTP-Tar-Pitting-Explained.html


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BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread Steve Ens
Just setting up BES for the first time...trying to get a device online, but
it times out when I try to activate it.  Do I need to service pack the ESM
on the BES?  I will try that at any rate...
Other than that, once I hit the activate button on the device, a message
appears in my inbox (I'm testing my account first), and when it times out
another one appears...other than that, I can send mail from it.

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RE: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread Andy Shook
BES needs to be at the same parch level as your Exchange servers(s). ESM
is Exchange w\o the DBs.

 

Shook



From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BES newbie question

 

 


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RE: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Make sure CDO.DLL and MAPI32.DLL are the same versions on the BES and on
your Exchange server (which should be separate physical servers)

Right-click on each, goto version tab to verify.

I think they are usually located in c:\program files\exchsrvr\bin... or
something like that.

Also, not sure how you are activating your BB, but I always manually
create a password.  I never generate and email a password.

What version of BES?  4.2?

HTH

 

 



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES newbie question

 

Make sure all the BlackBerry services are running, on my BES server I
have to restart some of them manually every time I re-start the server!

 

__
Stefan Jafs

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BES newbie question

 

Just setting up BES for the first time...trying to get a device online,
but it times out when I try to activate it.  Do I need to service pack
the ESM on the BES?  I will try that at any rate...
Other than that, once I hit the activate button on the device, a message
appears in my inbox (I'm testing my account first), and when it times
out another one appears...other than that, I can send mail from it.

 

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RE: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread Martin Blackstone
Right. Equal patching is important.

Second, make sure you have your permissions setup properly.

Third, make sure your devices are on the proper Blackberry plan. Typically
called a BB Enterprise plan.

I'm currently transitioning about 40 BB users from BIS to BES and that's
part of the transition. Getting them on the right plan.

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES newbie question

 

BES needs to be at the same parch level as your Exchange servers(s). ESM is
Exchange w\o the DBs.

 

Shook

  _  

From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BES newbie question

 

 

 

 


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RE: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread Bob Fronk
I found that an anti-spam or antivirus program can cause activation not
to occur.

 

If I recall correctly, Symantec Mail Security (which I no longer use)
was deleting the attachment on the activation emails.  Therefore, none
of the blackberries would activate.  I believe I had to make an
exclusion, but I can't recall since it was a couple years ago.

 

Bob Fronk

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES newbie question

 

Make sure CDO.DLL and MAPI32.DLL are the same versions on the BES and on
your Exchange server (which should be separate physical servers)

Right-click on each, goto version tab to verify.

I think they are usually located in c:\program files\exchsrvr\bin... or
something like that.

Also, not sure how you are activating your BB, but I always manually
create a password.  I never generate and email a password.

What version of BES?  4.2?

HTH

 

 



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES newbie question

 

Make sure all the BlackBerry services are running, on my BES server I
have to restart some of them manually every time I re-start the server!

 

__
Stefan Jafs

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BES newbie question

 

Just setting up BES for the first time...trying to get a device online,
but it times out when I try to activate it.  Do I need to service pack
the ESM on the BES?  I will try that at any rate...
Other than that, once I hit the activate button on the device, a message
appears in my inbox (I'm testing my account first), and when it times
out another one appears...other than that, I can send mail from it.

 

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Re: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread Steve Ens
Yah Martin, I just emailed my telus rep and she said she will need to make a
change to the account, so that might be the issue.
Thanks for all the suggestions.  I already checked the perms, etc...

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  Right. Equal patching is important.

 Second, make sure you have your permissions setup properly.

 Third, make sure your devices are on the proper Blackberry plan. Typically
 called a BB Enterprise plan.

 I'm currently transitioning about 40 BB users from BIS to BES and that's
 part of the transition. Getting them on the right plan.



 *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 8:07 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: BES newbie question



 BES needs to be at the same parch level as your Exchange servers(s). ESM is
 Exchange w\o the DBs.



 Shook
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 *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 10:57 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* BES newbie question












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RE: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread Troy Meyer
Last but not least,

If this is your first install of BES you get 30 days of free install support 
from RIM.  What the others have said will probably get you on track, but if it 
doesn't, make the call.

-troy

From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BES newbie question

Just setting up BES for the first time...trying to get a device online, but it 
times out when I try to activate it.  Do I need to service pack the ESM on the 
BES?  I will try that at any rate...
Other than that, once I hit the activate button on the device, a message 
appears in my inbox (I'm testing my account first), and when it times out 
another one appears...other than that, I can send mail from it.



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Re: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread Steve Ens
Yes I manually created the pw.  This is version 4.1 I believe. MY cdo is at
10/4/2005 on the BES, but 12/14/06 on the exchange server...I'll have to
find a patch I guess.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:12 AM, David Mazzaccaro 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Make sure CDO.DLL and MAPI32.DLL are the same versions on the BES and on
 your Exchange server (which should be separate physical servers)

 Right-click on each, goto version tab to verify.

 I think they are usually located in c:\program files\exchsrvr\bin… or
 something like that.

 Also, not sure how you are activating your BB, but I always manually create
 a password.  I never generate and email a password.

 What version of BES?  4.2?

 HTH




  --

 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 11:07 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: BES newbie question



 Make sure all the BlackBerry services are running, on my BES server I have
 to restart some of them manually every time I re-start the server!



 *__*
 *Stefan Jafs*



 *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 10:57
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* BES newbie question



 Just setting up BES for the first time...trying to get a device online, but
 it times out when I try to activate it.  Do I need to service pack the ESM
 on the BES?  I will try that at any rate...
 Other than that, once I hit the activate button on the device, a message
 appears in my inbox (I'm testing my account first), and when it times out
 another one appears...other than that, I can send mail from it.



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Re: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread Steve Ens
Duh. or just copy the one from the Exch2003sp2 server over...Sorry I drove
the scooter in this morning in the pouring rain...I am still wet and the
brain isn't working 100% yet.  Need coffee.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes I manually created the pw.  This is version 4.1 I believe. MY cdo is at
 10/4/2005 on the BES, but 12/14/06 on the exchange server...I'll have to
 find a patch I guess.

 On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:12 AM, David Mazzaccaro 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Make sure CDO.DLL and MAPI32.DLL are the same versions on the BES and on
 your Exchange server (which should be separate physical servers)

 Right-click on each, goto version tab to verify.

 I think they are usually located in c:\program files\exchsrvr\bin… or
 something like that.

 Also, not sure how you are activating your BB, but I always manually
 create a password.  I never generate and email a password.

 What version of BES?  4.2?

 HTH




  --

 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 11:07 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: BES newbie question



 Make sure all the BlackBerry services are running, on my BES server I have
 to restart some of them manually every time I re-start the server!



 *__*
 *Stefan Jafs*



 *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 10:57
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* BES newbie question



 Just setting up BES for the first time...trying to get a device online,
 but it times out when I try to activate it.  Do I need to service pack the
 ESM on the BES?  I will try that at any rate...
 Other than that, once I hit the activate button on the device, a message
 appears in my inbox (I'm testing my account first), and when it times out
 another one appears...other than that, I can send mail from it.



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RE: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread John Cook
Just copy and replace (after renaming the old one - never hurts to keep the 
files in case of disaster) from the newer version (wherever that one is)

John W. Cook
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Partnership For Strong Families
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Gainesville, Fl 32601
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Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
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From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BES newbie question

Yes I manually created the pw.  This is version 4.1 I believe. MY cdo is at 
10/4/2005 on the BES, but 12/14/06 on the exchange server...I'll have to find a 
patch I guess.
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:12 AM, David Mazzaccaro [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Make sure CDO.DLL and MAPI32.DLL are the same versions on the BES and on your 
Exchange server (which should be separate physical servers)

Right-click on each, goto version tab to verify.

I think they are usually located in c:\program files\exchsrvr\bin... or 
something like that.

Also, not sure how you are activating your BB, but I always manually create a 
password.  I never generate and email a password.

What version of BES?  4.2?

HTH







From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:07 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES newbie question



Make sure all the BlackBerry services are running, on my BES server I have to 
restart some of them manually every time I re-start the server!



__
Stefan Jafs



From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BES newbie question



Just setting up BES for the first time...trying to get a device online, but it 
times out when I try to activate it.  Do I need to service pack the ESM on the 
BES?  I will try that at any rate...
Other than that, once I hit the activate button on the device, a message 
appears in my inbox (I'm testing my account first), and when it times out 
another one appears...other than that, I can send mail from it.



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RE: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Every Exchange patch you put on the Exchange server, you need to put on
the BES.

This will be done automatically w/ Microsoft Update - IF - you install
Exchange System Manager on the BES.

- Or - I *think* you can just copy the CDO.DLL and MAPI32.DLL files from
Exchange to BES and register them /w regsvr32.

But I have ESM on my BES - and I believe it is a requirement.

 

 

 



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Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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Re: Outbound Email Filtering

2008-06-06 Thread Steven Peck
Oh yes, we also prevent outbound relay except by authorized systems.
This has prevented infected systems from sending outbound infected
emails through our systems.

We have an internal DNS CNAME for our org, mail.sample.com that points
to the Exchange bridgehead.  As a CNAME it allows us to move the relay
should we need to in a way that reduces/mitigates disruption that
would occur for hard coded ip addresses.



On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Steven Peck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We do.  We have to comply with HIPAA regulations and sending PHI
 (personal health information) unsecured outside our company would be a
 bad thing for us.  As a result we scan for a number of message
 criteria such as SSN, Birth date, various other key terms to prevent
 calls to our PHI compliance officer.  We use some products from
 Tumbleweed.  Very expensive.

 At this point we bounce back to the sender any message that trigger
 the filter and kick a copy of the message to the compliance group.  We
 have a manual keyword trigger that's supposed to be there to encrypt
 messages and we have one to 'bypass' the filters but that also kicks a
 copy of the message to the compliance team.  This has occasionally
 resulted in discussions with people who 'should know better' and they
 then find out that they 'will not do this again' in an uncomfortable
 meeting.

 Steven Peck
 - http://www.blkmtn.org

 On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We do

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:05 PM, JB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All-
 Question I have, more like a survey.. How many people filter outbound
 email to the internet?
 Thanks,
  _
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Re: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread Steven Peck
It's not really a problem if your CDO on the BES is a higher version
then the one on your Exchange.  If Exchange CDO is higher version then
you will have problems.  However, it does bring up why your Exchange
version is less then your BES version. :)

Treat your BES server and client like you would your admin install.
If you patch your Exchange sever, patch your BES server.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:35 AM, David Mazzaccaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Every Exchange patch you put on the Exchange server, you need to put on the
 BES.

 This will be done automatically w/ Microsoft Update - IF - you install
 Exchange System Manager on the BES.

 - Or - I *think* you can just copy the CDO.DLL and MAPI32.DLL files from
 Exchange to BES and register them /w regsvr32.

 But I have ESM on my BES - and I believe it is a requirement.







 

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RE: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread Martin Blackstone
Yup. I use WU / WSUS.

If your Exchange server is all up to date via those mechanisms, run the same
on your BES server and it should sync you up.

 

In not really sure if those would have any impact on activation, but they
can sure cause you calendaring headaches. Up to and including corrupted
events.

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES newbie question

 

Every Exchange patch you put on the Exchange server, you need to put on the
BES.

This will be done automatically w/ Microsoft Update - IF - you install
Exchange System Manager on the BES.

- Or - I *think* you can just copy the CDO.DLL and MAPI32.DLL files from
Exchange to BES and register them /w regsvr32.

But I have ESM on my BES - and I believe it is a requirement.

 

 

 

  _  

From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BES newbie question

 

 

 

 


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RE: Hosting Multiple domains in Exchange 2003

2008-06-06 Thread Jonathan Gruber
I am using zoneedit.com to host the DNS for all of the sites, I made the 
changes to these 2 domains, along with 5 others over 3 weeks ago. I haven't 
changed any entries since then so it worries me that you saw different A 
records. We are doing the actual hosting of the sites.

When pinging these 2 sites I get could not find host

Nslookup hits our DNS server and returns a non-existent domain even after 
clearing the cache.

I can telnet to the hosting system on port 80 no problem, in addition this same 
system is hosting other sites which I can access without any trouble. I really 
think it's a DNS issue and I'm beginning to think it's with our ISP. I use the 
same ISP for my cable modem at home and have the same issues accessing the 
sites, however the coffee shop I visit in the morning uses Verizon DSL and I 
never have an issue getting to any of the sites we host. Turns out something is 
hosed with our ISP's DNS server. They are currently looking into it.

Jonathan Gruber
Network Administrator
J.B. Long Inc.
610-944-8840  x.213
484-637-1978  direct

  As I recall, last night, a lookup for www.moyersconstruction.com
vs moyersconstruction.com returned two different A records.
Likewise for sealcoatmydrive.com.  It might have been a mistake on
the part of whoever you have doing your hosting.  Right now, I get the
same A record for both of them, so perhaps it has been fixed.  Try
again.

  If it still does it:

1. Clear your browser cache.
2. Use PING to compare the IP addresses the various different domain
names are resolving too.
3. If you find a discrepency in step 1, use NSLOOKUP to chase the DNS
resolution chain back to where the problem is, and clear the DNS
resolver cache of the offending system.
4. Try using TELNET to make a manual TCP connection on port 80, and
see if you can get through that way.

  For step 4, if you're not familiar with the procedure, read
http://usertools.plus.net/tutorials/id/21, section entitled
Checking a web server.

-- Ben

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RE: Public Folder Permissions

2008-06-06 Thread ExchList
Thanks Nikki -

 

They need to create sub-folders because based upon what types of email
comes in it then has to be moved. I must need to figure out how to
prevent them from deleting the top folder.

 

Joseph Danielsen, CSBS, MCSA-2003, MCSA-2000 (Messaging), MCP

Network Blade Inc.

49 Marcy Street

Somerset, NJ 08873

732-213-0600

 

From: Nikki Peterson - OETX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:32 PM
Posted To: Exchange
Conversation: Public Folder Permissions
Subject: RE: Public Folder Permissions

 

If the client is able to Publish or Create a public folder, then they
will be owner of that public folder (PF). If they own the PF then they
can delete the PF. Why do they need to be able to Create sub-folders? I
would ask them their plan, create the structure, give them EDITOR (NO
PUBLISHING).

 

Nikki

 

From: ExchList [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Public Folder Permissions

 

My question involves trying to prevent the problem I ran into yester.

 

I created a Mail Enabled Public Folder.

User need to perform the following:

1.   Create sub-folders.

2.   Delete/Move email messages

I want to prevent them from Deleting any folders (especially the top
Mail Enabled folder).

 

Suggestions anyone?

 

Joseph Danielsen, CSBS, MCSA-2003, MCSA-2000 (Messaging), MCP

Network Blade Inc.

49 Marcy Street

Somerset, NJ 08873

732-213-0600

www.networkblade.com http://www.networkblade.com/ 

 

 

 

 


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RE: Hosting Multiple domains in Exchange 2003

2008-06-06 Thread Jason Gurtz
  This is much more than rumor.  In addition to regex style filters
  that look for generic/dynamic looking PTRs, more and more sites
  are also blocking if the PTR does not match the A.
 
   The later is nothing new -- it's called a double reverse lookup.
 That's been around since at least the mid 1990's.
[...]
 (Still of questionable effectiveness -- spammers buy domain names,
 too -- but at least it's doing *something*.)

I didn't claim it in its self was new.  What is relatively new is that
it's becoming more widespread to outright block because of it.  Even just
2-3 years ago it was pretty much only the so called lunatic fringe of
spam fighters that would 5xx if they didn't match.

Botnet spam is the primary target of this type of filtering because
virtually none of these machines are in IP space where the crooks can
control the PTR (hence PTR doesn't match A).  On SPAM-L people
consistently post that just this method alone blocks anywhere from 40-80%
of their entire spam load so I wouldn't say that it's of limited
effectiveness.  This is not hard for me to believe since the majority of
spam still seems to come via bot-nets.  I don't have hard stats here, but
I can say that all the machines that actually get to our content filters
are   This method, of course, does nothing to stem the tide of spam
relayed from Google, Yahoo, and the other webmail providers (a now rapidly
growing category now that captchas are being broken and peoples accounts
are being phished).

The main problem seems to be the false positives (which has a variety of
definitions depending on your outlook) such as the case here with the OP.

  Indeed, just
 checking for the existence of a PTR record is pretty useless, since
 anyone can put anything they want for IP address space they control.

I agree the PTR existence check is limited now that more generic style ptr
records are in place.  Once upon a time it was more prevalent for dynamic
nodes to have no PTR at all.  AOL is a prime example of a site which does
this existence only checking and rejecting.  At the time, when Carl
Hutzler was at the helm, it was an effective method for them (this was 3-4
years ago IIRC) and it does have a relatively low filtering cost and
minimal chance of false positive.  I would be interested to hear from the
current AOL postmaster team on its effectiveness in current times.

   Pattern matching in an attempt to identify domain names which look
 funny is something I haven't encountered myself, which is why I
 qualified it that way.

It is not quite as widespread due to a variety of reasons (regex
complexity being right up there I'm sure) but here's a page that describes
it in some detail along with some interesting stats.
http://www.mostlygeek.com/2007/02/09/most-effective-header-filtering-rule
s/  People do claim it's fairly effective, though I for one, am leery to
implement it myself particularly since our filtering is good enough as it
is.  Plus, regex starts to hit the CPU more...

  Fixing this is not as big of a problem as it was a couple years back
  if you have a business level account.
 
   Unfortunately, one still encounters problems when there are multiple
 layers between the person finding the problem and the person who can
 fix it.

I feel your pain.  It still amazes me that sometimes the largest
organizations (which typically have the largest budget for experienced
I.T. personnel and equipment) are often the worst at managing their
network.  Sites like ***.com (a major/international GPS/GIS vendor)
are doing C/R in an implementation that features egregious backscattering
potential, another software vendor had dns that was completely hosed by a
consultant.  With some patience and handholding, they were able to fix
things.


I'm off to TechEd next week and will definitely be saying ehelo to the
Exchange folks. :)  Anyone else going?

~JasonG

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Re: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread Steve Ens
Appears it was a MAPI issue...deleted the reg key, recreated the mapi
account and all was well.  The BES works well...much better than syncing the
device with the cable...I'm just about converted...

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just setting up BES for the first time...trying to get a device online, but
 it times out when I try to activate it.  Do I need to service pack the ESM
 on the BES?  I will try that at any rate...
 Other than that, once I hit the activate button on the device, a message
 appears in my inbox (I'm testing my account first), and when it times out
 another one appears...other than that, I can send mail from it.


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RE: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread Don Andrews
OH definitely better  You can actually manage your mailbox,
calendar, address book etc. wirelessly remotely live from your BB -
dynamite!

 

 



From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 2:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BES newbie question

 

Appears it was a MAPI issue...deleted the reg key, recreated the mapi
account and all was well.  The BES works well...much better than syncing
the device with the cable...I'm just about converted...

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just setting up BES for the first time...trying to get a device online,
but it times out when I try to activate it.  Do I need to service pack
the ESM on the BES?  I will try that at any rate...
Other than that, once I hit the activate button on the device, a message
appears in my inbox (I'm testing my account first), and when it times
out another one appears...other than that, I can send mail from it

 


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Re: BES newbie question

2008-06-06 Thread John Cook
Welcome to the Matrix!


From: Don Andrews
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: Fri Jun 06 18:23:32 2008
Subject: RE: BES newbie question
OH definitely better  You can actually manage your mailbox, calendar, 
address book etc. wirelessly remotely live from your BB – dynamite!



From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 2:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BES newbie question

Appears it was a MAPI issue...deleted the reg key, recreated the mapi account 
and all was well.  The BES works well...much better than syncing the device 
with the cable...I'm just about converted...
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:
Just setting up BES for the first time...trying to get a device online, but it 
times out when I try to activate it.  Do I need to service pack the ESM on the 
BES?  I will try that at any rate...
Other than that, once I hit the activate button on the device, a message 
appears in my inbox (I'm testing my account first), and when it times out 
another one appears...other than that, I can send mail from it






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