RE: e-mail archiving
Defender here by Arcmail. Working very well for us. Sent from my hand held... -Original Message- From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" Sent: 11/19/08 6:00 PM Subject: RE: e-mail archiving Without apologies to Sunbelt or any of the other 1000 or so Exchange archiving companies, I am also testing the Exchange Server Archiver from Red Gate. It seems to focus on ease of use and is very effective. http://hellomate.typepad.com/exchange/2008/11/red-gate-softwares-exchange-archiver-open-beta.html From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: e-mail archiving With apologies to our Sunbelt host, I’m in the process of doing a usability and resource review of the new Exchange Archiver from Redgate. I’m very impressed. Very. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: e-mail archiving Add to that anyone using email extender from EMC? Were actually installing two of these for our Medical records and I’m thinking of using this instead of a standalone system. thanks From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: e-mail archiving I serious looking at e-mail Archiving, I have had a web demo of the Jatheon, http://www.jatheon.com/ appliance and wonder how I can compare that to Sunbelts SEA software product? I’m sure by the tame I add the server and Storage to the SEA I’m pretty close to the Jatheon Appliance 20k price tag and a 20% / year maintenance is pretty steep. It does look pretty slick and very easy to administer and it looks very easy from the users perspective also. Any comments, an/or what are you guys using? __ Stefan Jafs ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: e-mail archiving
Defender here by Arcmail. Working very well for us. Sent from my hand held... -Original Message- From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" Sent: 11/19/08 6:00 PM Subject: RE: e-mail archiving Without apologies to Sunbelt or any of the other 1000 or so Exchange archiving companies, I am also testing the Exchange Server Archiver from Red Gate. It seems to focus on ease of use and is very effective. http://hellomate.typepad.com/exchange/2008/11/red-gate-softwares-exchange-archiver-open-beta.html From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: e-mail archiving With apologies to our Sunbelt host, I’m in the process of doing a usability and resource review of the new Exchange Archiver from Redgate. I’m very impressed. Very. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: e-mail archiving Add to that anyone using email extender from EMC? Were actually installing two of these for our Medical records and I’m thinking of using this instead of a standalone system. thanks From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: e-mail archiving I serious looking at e-mail Archiving, I have had a web demo of the Jatheon, http://www.jatheon.com/ appliance and wonder how I can compare that to Sunbelts SEA software product? I’m sure by the tame I add the server and Storage to the SEA I’m pretty close to the Jatheon Appliance 20k price tag and a 20% / year maintenance is pretty steep. It does look pretty slick and very easy to administer and it looks very easy from the users perspective also. Any comments, an/or what are you guys using? __ Stefan Jafs ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: e-mail archiving
Without apologies to Sunbelt or any of the other 1000 or so Exchange archiving companies, I am also testing the Exchange Server Archiver from Red Gate. It seems to focus on ease of use and is very effective. http://hellomate.typepad.com/exchange/2008/11/red-gate-softwares-exchange-ar chiver-open-beta.html From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: e-mail archiving With apologies to our Sunbelt host, I'm in the process of doing a usability and resource review of the new Exchange Archiver from Redgate. I'm very impressed. Very. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: e-mail archiving Add to that anyone using email extender from EMC? Were actually installing two of these for our Medical records and I'm thinking of using this instead of a standalone system. thanks From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: e-mail archiving I serious looking at e-mail Archiving, I have had a web demo of the Jatheon, http://www.jatheon.com/ appliance and wonder how I can compare that to Sunbelts SEA software product? I'm sure by the tame I add the server and Storage to the SEA I'm pretty close to the Jatheon Appliance 20k price tag and a 20% / year maintenance is pretty steep. It does look pretty slick and very easy to administer and it looks very easy from the users perspective also. Any comments, an/or what are you guys using? __ Stefan Jafs ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDRs / Public Folder
'it' meaning the test NDRs I have been generating today :) From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder "It never actually gets to the store if the destination is a PF." Really? But it's sitting in my NDR configured mailbox right now in my Store... From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder No, this would take a transport sink (either event sink if 2000/2003 or registered sink if 2007) that keys after the message is received prior to delivery. It never actually gets to the store if the destination is a PF. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder Any server side rules that will work in the administrator/NDR mailbox that can look for the NDR, then trigger a template email being sent out? Probably not... iirc, outlook rules can't really parse NDRs :( Thanks Mike, trying to think outside the box here... From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder Not supported. I could look up why, but all I remember off the top of my head is that it isn't supported. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDRs / Public Folder Any one ever figured out a way to get NDRs enabled in a Public Folder? I wish that the NDR would at least be logged in the event viewer, then I could just script an email to the user when a NDR was 'supposed' to be delived to the public folder. But I think for that to happen, I have to crank up the logging level :( Tia, Sam ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: e-mail archiving
I'm thinking I already have this box (centera) and all I have to buy is licensing. Plus we bought two of these centera's with one going out at a remote site. I'm trying to find someone that has it working. Sounds like there are a few solutions out there. From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: e-mail archiving Check out the HP RISS/IAP lines for your medical records. In the middle of implementing HP IAP for Email archiving ourselves. - John Barsodi From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: e-mail archiving Add to that anyone using email extender from EMC? Were actually installing two of these for our Medical records and I'm thinking of using this instead of a standalone system. thanks From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: e-mail archiving I serious looking at e-mail Archiving, I have had a web demo of the Jatheon, http://www.jatheon.com/ appliance and wonder how I can compare that to Sunbelts SEA software product? I'm sure by the tame I add the server and Storage to the SEA I'm pretty close to the Jatheon Appliance 20k price tag and a 20% / year maintenance is pretty steep. It does look pretty slick and very easy to administer and it looks very easy from the users perspective also. Any comments, an/or what are you guys using? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDRs / Public Folder
Oh, yeah, duh... It just clicked ;) From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder Apple != Orange. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder "It never actually gets to the store if the destination is a PF." Really? But it's sitting in my NDR configured mailbox right now in my Store... From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder No, this would take a transport sink (either event sink if 2000/2003 or registered sink if 2007) that keys after the message is received prior to delivery. It never actually gets to the store if the destination is a PF. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder Any server side rules that will work in the administrator/NDR mailbox that can look for the NDR, then trigger a template email being sent out? Probably not... iirc, outlook rules can't really parse NDRs :( Thanks Mike, trying to think outside the box here... From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder Not supported. I could look up why, but all I remember off the top of my head is that it isn't supported. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDRs / Public Folder Any one ever figured out a way to get NDRs enabled in a Public Folder? I wish that the NDR would at least be logged in the event viewer, then I could just script an email to the user when a NDR was 'supposed' to be delived to the public folder. But I think for that to happen, I have to crank up the logging level :( Tia, Sam ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: e-mail archiving
We're using SEA now since August but haven't fully implemented company wide. It was a little rocky starting out, but tech support was pretty good working with us. There are still some issues with some of the services needing to be restarted periodically to keep it processing the mail and there are a couple of other nits which I'm told will be addressed in future releases. We weren't expecting the amount of time it takes to import PSTs back into mailboxes. For the price it seemed to cover all the items we were looking for in an archive solution. Once we get the issues worked out, we'll be more comfortable with it. -Paul From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: e-mail archiving I serious looking at e-mail Archiving, I have had a web demo of the Jatheon, http://www.jatheon.com/ appliance and wonder how I can compare that to Sunbelts SEA software product? I'm sure by the tame I add the server and Storage to the SEA I'm pretty close to the Jatheon Appliance 20k price tag and a 20% / year maintenance is pretty steep. It does look pretty slick and very easy to administer and it looks very easy from the users perspective also. Any comments, an/or what are you guys using? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: e-mail archiving
I guess you have a few more users!! ___ Stefan Jafs From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: e-mail archiving Wow, pretty small - we deflect queries about why we don't do it by responding with a ballpark of 2million plus. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: e-mail archiving I serious looking at e-mail Archiving, I have had a web demo of the Jatheon, http://www.jatheon.com/ appliance and wonder how I can compare that to Sunbelts SEA software product? I'm sure by the tame I add the server and Storage to the SEA I'm pretty close to the Jatheon Appliance 20k price tag and a 20% / year maintenance is pretty steep. It does look pretty slick and very easy to administer and it looks very easy from the users perspective also. Any comments, an/or what are you guys using? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: e-mail archiving
With apologies to our Sunbelt host, I'm in the process of doing a usability and resource review of the new Exchange Archiver from Redgate. I'm very impressed. Very. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: e-mail archiving Add to that anyone using email extender from EMC? Were actually installing two of these for our Medical records and I'm thinking of using this instead of a standalone system. thanks From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: e-mail archiving I serious looking at e-mail Archiving, I have had a web demo of the Jatheon, http://www.jatheon.com/ appliance and wonder how I can compare that to Sunbelts SEA software product? I'm sure by the tame I add the server and Storage to the SEA I'm pretty close to the Jatheon Appliance 20k price tag and a 20% / year maintenance is pretty steep. It does look pretty slick and very easy to administer and it looks very easy from the users perspective also. Any comments, an/or what are you guys using? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDRs / Public Folder
Apple != Orange. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder "It never actually gets to the store if the destination is a PF." Really? But it's sitting in my NDR configured mailbox right now in my Store... _ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder No, this would take a transport sink (either event sink if 2000/2003 or registered sink if 2007) that keys after the message is received prior to delivery. It never actually gets to the store if the destination is a PF. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder Any server side rules that will work in the administrator/NDR mailbox that can look for the NDR, then trigger a template email being sent out? Probably not... iirc, outlook rules can't really parse NDRs :( Thanks Mike, trying to think outside the box here... _ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder Not supported. I could look up why, but all I remember off the top of my head is that it isn't supported. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDRs / Public Folder Any one ever figured out a way to get NDRs enabled in a Public Folder? I wish that the NDR would at least be logged in the event viewer, then I could just script an email to the user when a NDR was 'supposed' to be delived to the public folder. But I think for that to happen, I have to crank up the logging level :( Tia, Sam ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: e-mail archiving
Check out the HP RISS/IAP lines for your medical records. In the middle of implementing HP IAP for Email archiving ourselves. - John Barsodi From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: e-mail archiving Add to that anyone using email extender from EMC? Were actually installing two of these for our Medical records and I'm thinking of using this instead of a standalone system. thanks From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: e-mail archiving I serious looking at e-mail Archiving, I have had a web demo of the Jatheon, http://www.jatheon.com/ appliance and wonder how I can compare that to Sunbelts SEA software product? I'm sure by the tame I add the server and Storage to the SEA I'm pretty close to the Jatheon Appliance 20k price tag and a 20% / year maintenance is pretty steep. It does look pretty slick and very easy to administer and it looks very easy from the users perspective also. Any comments, an/or what are you guys using? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDRs / Public Folder
"It never actually gets to the store if the destination is a PF." Really? But it's sitting in my NDR configured mailbox right now in my Store... From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder No, this would take a transport sink (either event sink if 2000/2003 or registered sink if 2007) that keys after the message is received prior to delivery. It never actually gets to the store if the destination is a PF. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder Any server side rules that will work in the administrator/NDR mailbox that can look for the NDR, then trigger a template email being sent out? Probably not... iirc, outlook rules can't really parse NDRs :( Thanks Mike, trying to think outside the box here... From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder Not supported. I could look up why, but all I remember off the top of my head is that it isn't supported. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDRs / Public Folder Any one ever figured out a way to get NDRs enabled in a Public Folder? I wish that the NDR would at least be logged in the event viewer, then I could just script an email to the user when a NDR was 'supposed' to be delived to the public folder. But I think for that to happen, I have to crank up the logging level :( Tia, Sam ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: e-mail archiving
Wow, pretty small - we deflect queries about why we don't do it by responding with a ballpark of 2million plus. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: e-mail archiving I serious looking at e-mail Archiving, I have had a web demo of the Jatheon, http://www.jatheon.com/ appliance and wonder how I can compare that to Sunbelts SEA software product? I'm sure by the tame I add the server and Storage to the SEA I'm pretty close to the Jatheon Appliance 20k price tag and a 20% / year maintenance is pretty steep. It does look pretty slick and very easy to administer and it looks very easy from the users perspective also. Any comments, an/or what are you guys using? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: e-mail archiving
Add to that anyone using email extender from EMC? Were actually installing two of these for our Medical records and I'm thinking of using this instead of a standalone system. thanks From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: e-mail archiving I serious looking at e-mail Archiving, I have had a web demo of the Jatheon, http://www.jatheon.com/ appliance and wonder how I can compare that to Sunbelts SEA software product? I'm sure by the tame I add the server and Storage to the SEA I'm pretty close to the Jatheon Appliance 20k price tag and a 20% / year maintenance is pretty steep. It does look pretty slick and very easy to administer and it looks very easy from the users perspective also. Any comments, an/or what are you guys using? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDRs / Public Folder
No, this would take a transport sink (either event sink if 2000/2003 or registered sink if 2007) that keys after the message is received prior to delivery. It never actually gets to the store if the destination is a PF. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder Any server side rules that will work in the administrator/NDR mailbox that can look for the NDR, then trigger a template email being sent out? Probably not... iirc, outlook rules can't really parse NDRs :( Thanks Mike, trying to think outside the box here... _ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder Not supported. I could look up why, but all I remember off the top of my head is that it isn't supported. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDRs / Public Folder Any one ever figured out a way to get NDRs enabled in a Public Folder? I wish that the NDR would at least be logged in the event viewer, then I could just script an email to the user when a NDR was 'supposed' to be delived to the public folder. But I think for that to happen, I have to crank up the logging level :( Tia, Sam ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDRs / Public Folder
Any server side rules that will work in the administrator/NDR mailbox that can look for the NDR, then trigger a template email being sent out? Probably not... iirc, outlook rules can't really parse NDRs :( Thanks Mike, trying to think outside the box here... From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDRs / Public Folder Not supported. I could look up why, but all I remember off the top of my head is that it isn't supported. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDRs / Public Folder Any one ever figured out a way to get NDRs enabled in a Public Folder? I wish that the NDR would at least be logged in the event viewer, then I could just script an email to the user when a NDR was 'supposed' to be delived to the public folder. But I think for that to happen, I have to crank up the logging level :( Tia, Sam ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
e-mail archiving
I serious looking at e-mail Archiving, I have had a web demo of the Jatheon, http://www.jatheon.com/ appliance and wonder how I can compare that to Sunbelts SEA software product? I'm sure by the tame I add the server and Storage to the SEA I'm pretty close to the Jatheon Appliance 20k price tag and a 20% / year maintenance is pretty steep. It does look pretty slick and very easy to administer and it looks very easy from the users perspective also. Any comments, an/or what are you guys using? __ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDRs / Public Folder
Not supported. I could look up why, but all I remember off the top of my head is that it isn't supported. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDRs / Public Folder Any one ever figured out a way to get NDRs enabled in a Public Folder? I wish that the NDR would at least be logged in the event viewer, then I could just script an email to the user when a NDR was 'supposed' to be delived to the public folder. But I think for that to happen, I have to crank up the logging level :( Tia, Sam ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
NDRs / Public Folder
Any one ever figured out a way to get NDRs enabled in a Public Folder? I wish that the NDR would at least be logged in the event viewer, then I could just script an email to the user when a NDR was 'supposed' to be delived to the public folder. But I think for that to happen, I have to crank up the logging level :( Tia, Sam ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Send To Function Not Working
Exchange 2003 & Office 2007 We have several machines where the Send To function is not working as it did previously. The Send To option from the Explorer menu no longer opens an Outlook message window, and we're unable to use the Send button within Word, Excel, or IE7. It appears Outlook tries to open (see it in task manager) if it isn't already, and then gives up and quits. I've created a shortcut to Outlook in my Send To folder and can use that from Explorer's menu - that works fine, but not the Send To option. And curiously, I can send from FireFox, but not all users with this issue have FF installed. But the main issue is the inability to send from within the other Office applications. Suggestions? Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggy" until you can find a rock. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~<>
Re: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow.... And fast!
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Jason Gurtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously though, WiFi in particular is usually an oversubscribed circus. Yah, I've seen the same thing in a couple places. WAPs blinking in and out like Christmas lights, latency variations from 100 ms to 1000 ms, packet loss going through the roof randomly. I've also see those ad-server gateway/interceptor systems get overloaded and start timing out. So I guess "free WiFi" sometimes isn't worth what you pay for it... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow.... And fast!
It might not seem like much, but the Muni Wifi latencies are *significantly* higher than the Comcast set - approximately 3-5 times as high per hop. That's not good. Kurt On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Sam Cayze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for chiming in, > Well, I can browse to the other servers behind the same router/firewall > just fine, and download files from them fast. > > Also, I can download a 12 MB file from the HTTP of server from Muni at > 200Kbps, and Comcast at 500Kbps. Not much of a difference.. > > Muni Wifi > 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 192.168.1.1 > 235 ms30 ms39 ms 67.220.14.129 > 336 ms26 ms40 ms 206.55.180.131 > 423 ms28 ms27 ms 206.55.180.35 > 530 ms24 ms28 ms 206.55.180.17 > 648 ms26 ms37 ms 65.46.169.45 > 741 ms25 ms35 ms 65.46.168.82 > 834 ms22 ms44 ms 216.183.114.12 > 9 *** Request timed out. > 10 *** Request timed out. > 11 *** Request timed out. > > Comcast > 1 8 ms 6 ms 7 ms 73.236.168.1 > 2 6 ms 7 ms 8 ms ge-9-1-ur01.swmpls.mn.minn.comcast.net > [68.85.165.65] > 314 ms 9 ms11 ms te-8-1-ur02.smpls.mn.minn.comcast.net > [68.86.232.110] > 4 7 ms 7 ms10 ms te-2-1-ur01.smpls.mn.minn.comcast.net > [68.86.232.113] > 5 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms > te-9-1-ar02.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.86.232.122] > 616 ms18 ms17 ms > te-0-2-0-5-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.91.141] > 717 ms17 ms17 ms xe-10-3-0.edge1.Chicago2.Level3.net > [4.71.248.9] > 818 ms16 ms17 ms vlan51.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net > [4.69.138.158] > 922 ms17 ms17 ms ae-6.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net > [4.69.140.189] > 1019 ms19 ms19 ms ae-13-51.car3.Chicago1.Level3.net > [4.68.101.7] > 1117 ms17 ms17 ms XO-COMMUNIC.car3.Chicago1.Level3.net > [4.71.100.46] > 1217 ms20 ms21 ms 65.106.1.90.ptr.us.xo.net [65.106.1.90] > 1319 ms17 ms19 ms 65.106.1.89.ptr.us.xo.net [65.106.1.89] > 1428 ms26 ms27 ms 71.5.171.30.ptr.us.xo.net [71.5.171.30] > 1527 ms27 ms27 ms 64.1.4.70.ptr.us.xo.net [64.1.4.70] > 1629 ms30 ms27 ms > ip65-46-168-82.z168-46-65.customer.algx.net [65.46.168.82] > 1727 ms27 ms26 ms minir2-vl-1.sgns.net [216.183.114.12] > 18 *** Request timed out. > 19 *** Request timed out. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:06 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow And fast! > > Do a traceroute from your box to the Exchange server. I bet you'll find > that there's a router or three in there with really bad latency... > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Sam Cayze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Terrible wait time for Outlook Anywhere on one of my ISPs... Curious > why. >> >> 3 ISPs right now: >> >> 1 Comcast 8Mbps (Speedtest.net = 16 Mbps) >> 2 Muni Wfi 6Mbps (Speedtest.net = 9 Mbps) >> 3 Sprint EVDO Rev. A (Work laptop) (Speedtest.net = <1 Mbps) >> >> Exchange box is hosted on a 10 Mbps uplink. >> Tested with XP, Vista, Outlook 2003, 2007, all Cached Mode. >> >> When I am on my Comcast or Sprint connection, and I open up Outlook, I > >> am instantly greeted with the password dialog box, and I can connect >> to the server instantly upon entering my password. Perfect. >> >> If I switch to the Muni Wifi connection, Outlook hangs, and I have to >> wait over 60 seconds for the password dialog box to appear. Once I >> finally connect, Outlook is sluggish at first... then normal. It >> doesn't seem like a speed issue, because the Muni is MUCH faster than >> the EVDO connection, and I don't have this issue on the EVDO >> connection at all... Even using the EVDO card on roam at my cabin I > don't see this issue. >> >> I'm not much of a networking guru, so I am not sure where to start >> looking... Did my due diligence and looked at some KB articles, >> results below. >> >> I am a Beta tester on the MuniWiFi, so I have a little closer access >> to their advanced support staff, so I want to take the time and > research this. >> Some of our emloyees might end up using this MuniWiFi, and I am >> debating if I should keep it and ditch Comca$t. >> >> >> >> RPCPing results: >> Comcast: >> RPCPinging proxy server mail.rollouts.com with Echo Request Packet >> Sending ping to server Response from server received: 200 Pinging >> successfully completed in 530 ms >> >> MuniWifi: >> RPCPinging proxy server mail.rollouts.com with Echo Request Packet >> Sending ping to server Response from server received: 200 Pinging >> successfully completed in 499 ms >> >> Any pointers would be great! Thanks, >> >> Sam >> >> >> >> Sam Cayze >> Information Technology Administrator >> R
RE: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow.... And fast!
Good info, thanks :) -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow And fast! > Yeah, sounds like a good analysis. Muni Wifi = City/Wide Municipal > provided 802.11 in Minneapolis. I would just think cellular data > tower would have a higher latency It all depends on how many bittorrent users you're competing with :) Seriously though, WiFi in particular is usually an oversubscribed circus. Typically, it's the processing power of the access point, not the bandwidth that is overwhelmed. This is manifested in high latency. In comparison, cell towers typically have much more controlled access limits, policies, etc... If you're into networking-making an extremely broad and sweeping analogy here-think of it as SONET/SDH (your average Cellular data connection) vs non-switched Ethernet (your average WiFi connection) > or even dialup for that matter. Even though it is inherently bandwidth constrained and has tons of error correction overhead, the "last mile" dialup connection is being used by a known and controlled number of users. With TCP, latency is all about error rate and how many retransmissions are happening. UDP is another story... If you're hell bent on doing this over WiFi/Cell you may want to check out the NetMotion product which effectively tunnels everything encrypted over UDP to a "concentrator" server on your LAN. Probably around 8 large for 2 dozen users. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow. ... And fast!
> Yeah, sounds like a good analysis. Muni Wifi = City/Wide Municipal > provided 802.11 in Minneapolis. I would just think cellular data > tower would have a higher latency It all depends on how many bittorrent users you're competing with :) Seriously though, WiFi in particular is usually an oversubscribed circus. Typically, it's the processing power of the access point, not the bandwidth that is overwhelmed. This is manifested in high latency. In comparison, cell towers typically have much more controlled access limits, policies, etc... If you're into networking—making an extremely broad and sweeping analogy here—think of it as SONET/SDH (your average Cellular data connection) vs non-switched Ethernet (your average WiFi connection) > or even dialup for that matter. Even though it is inherently bandwidth constrained and has tons of error correction overhead, the "last mile" dialup connection is being used by a known and controlled number of users. With TCP, latency is all about error rate and how many retransmissions are happening. UDP is another story... If you're hell bent on doing this over WiFi/Cell you may want to check out the NetMotion product which effectively tunnels everything encrypted over UDP to a "concentrator" server on your LAN. Probably around 8 large for 2 dozen users. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow.... And fast!
Yeah, sounds like a good analysis. Muni Wifi = City/Wide Municipal provided 802.11 in Minneapolis. I would just think cellular data tower would have a higher latency, or even dialup for that matter. Both of which RPC work better on for me :( Sam -Original Message- From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow And fast! As Kurt says it's usually a latency issue, and with a busy WiFi network - or your local WAP is over-subscribed - you may not get very far with Exchange RPC. When I was at Tech Ed in Barcelona a few weeks ago RPC was unusable, but OWA was responding fairly normally. Can you find a quieter spot where you will have a WAP that is less in demand? I have no idea what Muni WiFi is so I might be way off base here :) Richard -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2008 05:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow And fast! Thanks for chiming in, Well, I can browse to the other servers behind the same router/firewall just fine, and download files from them fast. Also, I can download a 12 MB file from the HTTP of server from Muni at 200Kbps, and Comcast at 500Kbps. Not much of a difference.. Muni Wifi 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 192.168.1.1 235 ms30 ms39 ms 67.220.14.129 336 ms26 ms40 ms 206.55.180.131 423 ms28 ms27 ms 206.55.180.35 530 ms24 ms28 ms 206.55.180.17 648 ms26 ms37 ms 65.46.169.45 741 ms25 ms35 ms 65.46.168.82 834 ms22 ms44 ms 216.183.114.12 9 *** Request timed out. 10 *** Request timed out. 11 *** Request timed out. Comcast 1 8 ms 6 ms 7 ms 73.236.168.1 2 6 ms 7 ms 8 ms ge-9-1-ur01.swmpls.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.85.165.65] 314 ms 9 ms11 ms te-8-1-ur02.smpls.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.86.232.110] 4 7 ms 7 ms10 ms te-2-1-ur01.smpls.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.86.232.113] 5 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms te-9-1-ar02.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.86.232.122] 616 ms18 ms17 ms te-0-2-0-5-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.91.141] 717 ms17 ms17 ms xe-10-3-0.edge1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.71.248.9] 818 ms16 ms17 ms vlan51.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.138.158] 922 ms17 ms17 ms ae-6.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.140.189] 1019 ms19 ms19 ms ae-13-51.car3.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.7] 1117 ms17 ms17 ms XO-COMMUNIC.car3.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.71.100.46] 1217 ms20 ms21 ms 65.106.1.90.ptr.us.xo.net [65.106.1.90] 1319 ms17 ms19 ms 65.106.1.89.ptr.us.xo.net [65.106.1.89] 1428 ms26 ms27 ms 71.5.171.30.ptr.us.xo.net [71.5.171.30] 1527 ms27 ms27 ms 64.1.4.70.ptr.us.xo.net [64.1.4.70] 1629 ms30 ms27 ms ip65-46-168-82.z168-46-65.customer.algx.net [65.46.168.82] 1727 ms27 ms26 ms minir2-vl-1.sgns.net [216.183.114.12] 18 *** Request timed out. 19 *** Request timed out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow And fast! Do a traceroute from your box to the Exchange server. I bet you'll find that there's a router or three in there with really bad latency... On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Sam Cayze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Terrible wait time for Outlook Anywhere on one of my ISPs... Curious why. > > 3 ISPs right now: > > 1 Comcast 8Mbps (Speedtest.net = 16 Mbps) > 2 Muni Wfi 6Mbps (Speedtest.net = 9 Mbps) > 3 Sprint EVDO Rev. A (Work laptop) (Speedtest.net = <1 Mbps) > > Exchange box is hosted on a 10 Mbps uplink. > Tested with XP, Vista, Outlook 2003, 2007, all Cached Mode. > > When I am on my Comcast or Sprint connection, and I open up Outlook, I > am instantly greeted with the password dialog box, and I can connect > to the server instantly upon entering my password. Perfect. > > If I switch to the Muni Wifi connection, Outlook hangs, and I have to > wait over 60 seconds for the password dialog box to appear. Once I > finally connect, Outlook is sluggish at first... then normal. It > doesn't seem like a speed issue, because the Muni is MUCH faster than > the EVDO connection, and I don't have this issue on the EVDO > connection at all... Even using the EVDO card on roam at my cabin I don't see this issue. > > I'm not much of a networking guru, so I am not sure where to start > looking... Did my due diligence and looked at some KB articles, > results below. > > I am a Beta tester on the MuniWiFi, so I have a little closer access > to their advanced support staff,
RE: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow.... And fast!
As Kurt says it's usually a latency issue, and with a busy WiFi network - or your local WAP is over-subscribed - you may not get very far with Exchange RPC. When I was at Tech Ed in Barcelona a few weeks ago RPC was unusable, but OWA was responding fairly normally. Can you find a quieter spot where you will have a WAP that is less in demand? I have no idea what Muni WiFi is so I might be way off base here :) Richard -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2008 05:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow And fast! Thanks for chiming in, Well, I can browse to the other servers behind the same router/firewall just fine, and download files from them fast. Also, I can download a 12 MB file from the HTTP of server from Muni at 200Kbps, and Comcast at 500Kbps. Not much of a difference.. Muni Wifi 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 192.168.1.1 235 ms30 ms39 ms 67.220.14.129 336 ms26 ms40 ms 206.55.180.131 423 ms28 ms27 ms 206.55.180.35 530 ms24 ms28 ms 206.55.180.17 648 ms26 ms37 ms 65.46.169.45 741 ms25 ms35 ms 65.46.168.82 834 ms22 ms44 ms 216.183.114.12 9 *** Request timed out. 10 *** Request timed out. 11 *** Request timed out. Comcast 1 8 ms 6 ms 7 ms 73.236.168.1 2 6 ms 7 ms 8 ms ge-9-1-ur01.swmpls.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.85.165.65] 314 ms 9 ms11 ms te-8-1-ur02.smpls.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.86.232.110] 4 7 ms 7 ms10 ms te-2-1-ur01.smpls.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.86.232.113] 5 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms te-9-1-ar02.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.86.232.122] 616 ms18 ms17 ms te-0-2-0-5-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.91.141] 717 ms17 ms17 ms xe-10-3-0.edge1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.71.248.9] 818 ms16 ms17 ms vlan51.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.138.158] 922 ms17 ms17 ms ae-6.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.140.189] 1019 ms19 ms19 ms ae-13-51.car3.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.7] 1117 ms17 ms17 ms XO-COMMUNIC.car3.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.71.100.46] 1217 ms20 ms21 ms 65.106.1.90.ptr.us.xo.net [65.106.1.90] 1319 ms17 ms19 ms 65.106.1.89.ptr.us.xo.net [65.106.1.89] 1428 ms26 ms27 ms 71.5.171.30.ptr.us.xo.net [71.5.171.30] 1527 ms27 ms27 ms 64.1.4.70.ptr.us.xo.net [64.1.4.70] 1629 ms30 ms27 ms ip65-46-168-82.z168-46-65.customer.algx.net [65.46.168.82] 1727 ms27 ms26 ms minir2-vl-1.sgns.net [216.183.114.12] 18 *** Request timed out. 19 *** Request timed out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: RPC / Outlook Anywhere Slow And fast! Do a traceroute from your box to the Exchange server. I bet you'll find that there's a router or three in there with really bad latency... On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Sam Cayze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Terrible wait time for Outlook Anywhere on one of my ISPs... Curious why. > > 3 ISPs right now: > > 1 Comcast 8Mbps (Speedtest.net = 16 Mbps) > 2 Muni Wfi 6Mbps (Speedtest.net = 9 Mbps) > 3 Sprint EVDO Rev. A (Work laptop) (Speedtest.net = <1 Mbps) > > Exchange box is hosted on a 10 Mbps uplink. > Tested with XP, Vista, Outlook 2003, 2007, all Cached Mode. > > When I am on my Comcast or Sprint connection, and I open up Outlook, I > am instantly greeted with the password dialog box, and I can connect > to the server instantly upon entering my password. Perfect. > > If I switch to the Muni Wifi connection, Outlook hangs, and I have to > wait over 60 seconds for the password dialog box to appear. Once I > finally connect, Outlook is sluggish at first... then normal. It > doesn't seem like a speed issue, because the Muni is MUCH faster than > the EVDO connection, and I don't have this issue on the EVDO > connection at all... Even using the EVDO card on roam at my cabin I don't see this issue. > > I'm not much of a networking guru, so I am not sure where to start > looking... Did my due diligence and looked at some KB articles, > results below. > > I am a Beta tester on the MuniWiFi, so I have a little closer access > to their advanced support staff, so I want to take the time and research this. > Some of our emloyees might end up using this MuniWiFi, and I am > debating if I should keep it and ditch Comca$t. > > > > RPCPing results: > Comcast: > RPCPinging proxy server mail.rollouts.com with Echo Request Packet > Sending ping to server Response from server received: 200 Pinging > successfully completed in 530 ms > > MuniWifi: > RPCPinging proxy server mail.rollouts.com with Echo Request Pa
