RE: Activesync causing excessive transaction log growth on Exchange 2010

2013-02-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
These things are throttled in Exchange 2013. Specifically because of this and 
similar issues.

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Activesync causing excessive transaction log growth on Exchange 
2010

More than once, all I can say is apple's implementation of activesync is pure 
sh!t.

Several ways to handle this
  - block them all:)
  - Use logparser to deduce which actual version and block it
  - Use logparser to see who's device, if not specific to a version, as mb 
problems can cause this for crappy devices.

Good luck...
jlc



From: Leedy, Andy
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Activesync causing excessive transaction log growth on Exchange 2010
Has anyone seen this issue?

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4393486?start=0tstart=0

More importantly does anyone know what the fix is?

Any help is greatly appreciated!!

Thanks!

Andy Leedy
Messaging Systems Engineer
Butler Schein Animal Health

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RE: Private Notes / Minutes Tab

2013-02-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
I would use Outlook forms.

As long as no one else has the form loaded, they can't see the data.

From: John Bonner [mailto:john.bon...@bmgi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 5:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Private Notes / Minutes Tab

Hello,

As a software architect the CEO has asked me if I can program something to add 
a tab to Outlook meetings and appointments for PRIVATE use. I could go to great 
lengths putting something together using VSTO but I thought the brains on this 
list would likely know better ways and or existing products. For example I know 
you can get close using Forms Administrator utility/ Organizational Forms 
Libraries. Anyway all he is looking for (and I suggested one note but he wants 
it attached to the invite etc.) is a place for personal notes.

TIA
JB

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RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

2013-02-06 Thread Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Now that's funny.  Exchange is supposed to be smart enough, so whether it is 
or not, we're going to take away the tool you could use to make sure it 
happens...

Awesome.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

Theoretically, you should never HAVE to run the cmdlet. Exchange is supposed to 
be smart enough to do this for you.

That is why the cmdlet is gone in Exchange 2013.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Guyer, Don
Sent: 2/5/2013 3:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox
When you run this command, aren't you just forcing  it to run right away so you 
don't have to wait until it runs when scheduled? We do this all the time with 
Xch2k7.

That's the way I always understood it. Unless 2010 is different...

Educate me as necessary.

: )

Regards,

Don Guyer
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-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 4:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

That was it.  I saw in an MS support forum that the Clean-Mailboxdatabase 
db_name is needed for immediate access.  Supposedly fixed in the current rollup 
(I'm not on it).

Thank you,
Tom

-Original Message-
From: Rupprecht, James R. [mailto:jimruppre...@ku.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

Run Clean-MailboxDatabase against the database that hosts the reconnected 
mailbox.

Jim Rupprecht
KU Information Technology

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From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

We have an account that was disabled accidentally.  I recreated the account in 
ADUC, and used the reconnect option in the EMC.  However, when I go into the 
account on OWA, the web page states that the account is disabled, but it is 
not.  Anyone have any suggestions?

Tom
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Re: Send-on-Behalf question

2013-02-06 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote:
 I had a user ask a question the other day, and although it doesn’t make any
 sense to me, I thought I’d run it by the gurus here.



 Our Director’s executive assistant has full access to the Director’s
 mailbox/calendar, etc.  She sends out meeting requests on behalf of the
 Director.  She wants to know if it’s possible for replies to those messages,
 to only come to her, not the Director.  Is that possible?

Ouch. I sure hope not...

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RE: Send-on-Behalf question

2013-02-06 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Outside of the box idea.

She sends the meeting request from herself and includes the Director as an 
attendee.


From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Send-on-Behalf question

I had a user ask a question the other day, and although it doesn't make any 
sense to me, I thought I'd run it by the gurus here.

Our Director's executive assistant has full access to the Director's 
mailbox/calendar, etc.  She sends out meeting requests on behalf of the 
Director.  She wants to know if it's possible for replies to those messages, to 
only come to her, not the Director.  Is that possible?

Thanks,

Joe Heaton
Enterprise Server Support
CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
1807 13th Street, Suite 201
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk:  (916) 557-3422


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RE: Send-on-Behalf question

2013-02-06 Thread Guyer, Don
Why not? 

Regards,

Don Guyer
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-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 1:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Send-on-Behalf question

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote:
 I had a user ask a question the other day, and although it doesn’t 
 make any sense to me, I thought I’d run it by the gurus here.



 Our Director’s executive assistant has full access to the Director’s 
 mailbox/calendar, etc.  She sends out meeting requests on behalf of 
 the Director.  She wants to know if it’s possible for replies to those 
 messages, to only come to her, not the Director.  Is that possible?

Ouch. I sure hope not...

Kurt

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RE: Send-on-Behalf question

2013-02-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
In Exchange 2010 and above, I know it is. I think it is controlled by 
Set-MailboxCalendarConfiguration. I cannot remember if that cmdlet is in 
Exchange 2007 or not. It definitely is not there in Exchange 2003.

(I don't have access to my lab while I'm travelling, or I'd verify the above 
for you. But I'm reasonably confident I have the cmdlet right.)

From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Send-on-Behalf question

I had a user ask a question the other day, and although it doesn't make any 
sense to me, I thought I'd run it by the gurus here.

Our Director's executive assistant has full access to the Director's 
mailbox/calendar, etc.  She sends out meeting requests on behalf of the 
Director.  She wants to know if it's possible for replies to those messages, to 
only come to her, not the Director.  Is that possible?

Thanks,

Joe Heaton
Enterprise Server Support
CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
1807 13th Street, Suite 201
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk:  (916) 557-3422


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Re: Send-on-Behalf question

2013-02-06 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 1:10 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Send-on-Behalf question

 On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
 joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote:
 I had a user ask a question the other day, and although it doesn’t
 make any sense to me, I thought I’d run it by the gurus here.



 Our Director’s executive assistant has full access to the Director’s
 mailbox/calendar, etc.  She sends out meeting requests on behalf of
 the Director.  She wants to know if it’s possible for replies to those
 messages, to only come to her, not the Director.  Is that possible?

 Ouch. I sure hope not...

 Kurt

 Why not?

 Regards,

 Don Guyer

The potential for abuse - the boss doesn't have visibility into what
the assistant is doing.

Even if the assistant is supremely trusted and trustworthy, mistakes
happen, and nothing should happen in anyone's communications
(especially an executive's) to which the owner doesn't have access.

Even simple meeting requests can (will) contain more than a date and
time, and she will be speaking with the Director's voice.

Kurt

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RE: Send-on-Behalf question

2013-02-06 Thread Guyer, Don
Understood but, that doesn't stop users from doing it that way. As long as the 
possible dangers are explained to them beforehand, our butts are covered.

Although, that won't stop them from just going into their mailbox and setting 
it up on their own.

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.org
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the 
helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.



-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Send-on-Behalf question

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 1:10 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Send-on-Behalf question

 On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
 joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote:
 I had a user ask a question the other day, and although it doesn’t 
 make any sense to me, I thought I’d run it by the gurus here.



 Our Director’s executive assistant has full access to the Director’s 
 mailbox/calendar, etc.  She sends out meeting requests on behalf of 
 the Director.  She wants to know if it’s possible for replies to 
 those messages, to only come to her, not the Director.  Is that possible?

 Ouch. I sure hope not...

 Kurt

 Why not?

 Regards,

 Don Guyer

The potential for abuse - the boss doesn't have visibility into what the 
assistant is doing.

Even if the assistant is supremely trusted and trustworthy, mistakes happen, 
and nothing should happen in anyone's communications (especially an 
executive's) to which the owner doesn't have access.

Even simple meeting requests can (will) contain more than a date and time, and 
she will be speaking with the Director's voice.

Kurt

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RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

2013-02-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
I appreciate the irony. But please do not shoot the messenger. :)

Also, Clean-MailboxDatabase does not perform well at scale. In Microsoft's 
perspective that means, when you have mailbox databases containing many 
thousands of mailboxes.

That being said, there _IS_ a way in Exchange 2013 to simulate 
Clean-MailboxDatabase and have it perform well at scale. Whenever I have a few 
minutes, I plan on writing it up. :)


From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

Now that's funny.  Exchange is supposed to be smart enough, so whether it is 
or not, we're going to take away the tool you could use to make sure it 
happens...

Awesome.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

Theoretically, you should never HAVE to run the cmdlet. Exchange is supposed to 
be smart enough to do this for you.

That is why the cmdlet is gone in Exchange 2013.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Guyer, Don
Sent: 2/5/2013 3:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox
When you run this command, aren't you just forcing  it to run right away so you 
don't have to wait until it runs when scheduled? We do this all the time with 
Xch2k7.

That's the way I always understood it. Unless 2010 is different...

Educate me as necessary.

: )

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the 
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-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 4:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

That was it.  I saw in an MS support forum that the Clean-Mailboxdatabase 
db_name is needed for immediate access.  Supposedly fixed in the current rollup 
(I'm not on it).

Thank you,
Tom

-Original Message-
From: Rupprecht, James R. [mailto:jimruppre...@ku.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

Run Clean-MailboxDatabase against the database that hosts the reconnected 
mailbox.

Jim Rupprecht
KU Information Technology

- Original Message -
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

We have an account that was disabled accidentally.  I recreated the account in 
ADUC, and used the reconnect option in the EMC.  However, when I go into the 
account on OWA, the web page states that the account is disabled, but it is 
not.  Anyone have any suggestions?

Tom
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RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

2013-02-06 Thread Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Oh no, Michael, in all seriousness, my sarcasm was not, nor would it ever be, 
directed towards you personally.  You have saved my bacon more than once, and 
are very much appreciated.

I think some of my frustration is with the project that we in the State of 
California are being forced into.  The original intent was to consolidate 
e-mail for the entire state, and to cut costs of each department running their 
own.  Great idea.  However, implementation is a nightmare.  Microsoft O365 is 
what we're going to, but here's the catch.  They are treating the entire state 
as one company.  The problem with that, is that we are about 160 separate 
departments, each with our own users, etc.  So, when you treat us as one 
company, how do you allow, for instance, me, to manage my users within 
Exchange.  If you give me access to EMC, EMS or ECP, then I can make changes 
that could potentially affect other departments as well as my own.  Well, we 
can't have that.  So they're taking that access away from all departmental 
Exchange Admins.  For me to create a mailbox, I have to go into ADUC, and use 
the Attribute Editor, and manually manipulate about 6 or 7 different 
attributes.  An automatic sync happens every 30 minutes, and the creation gets 
processed back at Microsoft, in either San Antonio, or Chicago.  Which could 
take up to a few hours.  If I make a typo during that process?  Well, I have to 
fix it, and wait another few hours for the process to happen again.

They are giving us a very rudimentary admin interface, in which we can do 
about 10 different things:

Export a mailbox to PST
Add/Remove Mailbox Permission
Add/Remove Delegate
Activesync - Enable/Disable
Activesync - Apply Policy
OWA - Enable/Disable
Apply Retention Policy
Group Admin  (create or modify cross-forest distribution lists)
Live Meeting Admin - If you paid for this service (we did not)
Contact Admin - allows us to add, edit or delete Contacts within the system.

That's it.  That's what I can directly affect.  Anything beyond that, I have to 
call the Helpdesk for the mail system, and wait.  The SLA's vary, but with the 
track record of the organization that's actually going to be doing the work, 
the wait time will be hours, days and for some things possibly weeks.


Oh, and as far as saving money?  Umm, no.  We're not completely in the system 
yet, but I've spoken to someone who's department is, and he's saying his costs 
went from about 30k per year for running Exchange in-house, to a cool half 
million now.

Yippee!


From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:59 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

I appreciate the irony. But please do not shoot the messenger. :)

Also, Clean-MailboxDatabase does not perform well at scale. In Microsoft's 
perspective that means, when you have mailbox databases containing many 
thousands of mailboxes.

That being said, there _IS_ a way in Exchange 2013 to simulate 
Clean-MailboxDatabase and have it perform well at scale. Whenever I have a few 
minutes, I plan on writing it up. :)


From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

Now that's funny.  Exchange is supposed to be smart enough, so whether it is 
or not, we're going to take away the tool you could use to make sure it 
happens...

Awesome.

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:michael@smithconscommailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

Theoretically, you should never HAVE to run the cmdlet. Exchange is supposed to 
be smart enough to do this for you

That is why the cmdlet is gone in Exchange 2013.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Guyer, Don
Sent: 2/5/2013 3:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox
When you run this command, aren't you just forcing  it to run right away so you 
don't have to wait until it runs when scheduled? We do this all the time with 
Xch2k7.

That's the way I always understood it. Unless 2010 is different...

Educate me as necessary.

: )

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the 
helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.



-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 4:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

That was it.  I saw in an MS support forum that the Clean-Mailboxdatabase 
db_name 

Re: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

2013-02-06 Thread Richard Stovall
Wow.

Please accept my most sincere condolences.


On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote:

  Oh no, Michael, in all seriousness, my sarcasm was not, nor would it
 ever be, directed towards you personally.  You have saved my bacon more
 than once, and are very much appreciated.

 ** **

 I think some of my frustration is with the project that we in the State of
 California are being forced into.  The original intent was to consolidate
 e-mail for the entire state, and to cut costs of each department running
 their own.  Great idea.  However, implementation is a nightmare.  Microsoft
 O365 is what we’re going to, but here’s the catch.  They are treating the
 entire state as one company.  The problem with that, is that we are about
 160 separate departments, each with our own users, etc.  So, when you treat
 us as one company, how do you allow, for instance, me, to manage my users
 within Exchange.  If you give me access to EMC, EMS or ECP, then I can make
 changes that could potentially affect other departments as well as my own.
 Well, we can’t have that.  So they’re taking that access away from all
 departmental Exchange Admins.  For me to create a mailbox, I have to go
 into ADUC, and use the Attribute Editor, and manually manipulate about 6 or
 7 different attributes.  An automatic sync happens every 30 minutes, and
 the creation gets processed back at Microsoft, in either San Antonio, or
 Chicago.  Which could take up to a few hours.  If I make a typo during that
 process?  Well, I have to fix it, and wait another few hours for the
 process to happen again.

 ** **

 They are giving us a very rudimentary “admin” interface, in which we can
 do about 10 different things:

 ** **

 Export a mailbox to PST

 Add/Remove Mailbox Permission

 Add/Remove Delegate

 Activesync – Enable/Disable

 Activesync – Apply Policy

 OWA – Enable/Disable

 Apply Retention Policy

 Group Admin  (create or modify cross-forest distribution lists)

 Live Meeting Admin – If you paid for this service (we did not)

 Contact Admin – allows us to add, edit or delete Contacts within the
 system.

 ** **

 That’s it.  That’s what I can directly affect.  Anything beyond that, I
 have to call the Helpdesk for the mail system, and wait.  The SLA’s vary,
 but with the track record of the organization that’s actually going to be
 doing the work, the wait time will be hours, days and for some things
 possibly weeks.

 ** **

 ** **

 Oh, and as far as saving money?  Umm, no.  We’re not completely in the
 system yet, but I’ve spoken to someone who’s department is, and he’s saying
 his costs went from about 30k per year for running Exchange in-house, to a
 cool half million now.

 ** **

 Yippee!

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:59 PM

 *To:* Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

  ** **

 I appreciate the irony. But please do not shoot the messenger. J

 ** **

 Also, Clean-MailboxDatabase does not perform well “at scale”. In
 Microsoft’s perspective that means, when you have mailbox databases
 containing many thousands of mailboxes.

 ** **

 That being said, there _*IS*_ a way in Exchange 2013 to simulate
 Clean-MailboxDatabase and have it perform well at scale. Whenever I have a
 few minutes, I plan on writing it up. J

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
 [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.govjoseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov]

 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:38 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

 ** **

 Now that’s funny.  Exchange is “supposed” to be smart enough, so whether
 it is or not, we’re going to take away the tool you could use to make sure
 it happens…

 ** **

 Awesome.

 ** **

 *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@smithconscommich...@smithcons.com]

 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19 AM
 *To:* Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

  ** **

 Theoretically, you should never HAVE to run the cmdlet. Exchange is
 supposed to be smart enough to do this for you

 That is why the cmdlet is gone in Exchange 2013.

 Sent from my Windows Phone

   --

 *From: *Guyer, Don
 *Sent: *2/5/2013 3:54 PM
 *To: *MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject: *RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

 When you run this command, aren't you just forcing  it to run right away
 so you don't have to wait until it runs when scheduled? We do this all the
 time with Xch2k7.

 That's the way I always understood it. Unless 2010 is different...

 Educate me as necessary.

 : )

 Regards,

 Don Guyer
 Catholic Health East - Information Technology
 Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
 3805 West Chester 

Re: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

2013-02-06 Thread Kurt Buff
While we don't have the full budgeting picture, it sounds like the
classic Penny wise and pound foolish.

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote:
 Oh no, Michael, in all seriousness, my sarcasm was not, nor would it ever
 be, directed towards you personally.  You have saved my bacon more than
 once, and are very much appreciated.



 I think some of my frustration is with the project that we in the State of
 California are being forced into.  The original intent was to consolidate
 e-mail for the entire state, and to cut costs of each department running
 their own.  Great idea.  However, implementation is a nightmare.  Microsoft
 O365 is what we’re going to, but here’s the catch.  They are treating the
 entire state as one company.  The problem with that, is that we are about
 160 separate departments, each with our own users, etc.  So, when you treat
 us as one company, how do you allow, for instance, me, to manage my users
 within Exchange.  If you give me access to EMC, EMS or ECP, then I can make
 changes that could potentially affect other departments as well as my own.
 Well, we can’t have that.  So they’re taking that access away from all
 departmental Exchange Admins.  For me to create a mailbox, I have to go into
 ADUC, and use the Attribute Editor, and manually manipulate about 6 or 7
 different attributes.  An automatic sync happens every 30 minutes, and the
 creation gets processed back at Microsoft, in either San Antonio, or
 Chicago.  Which could take up to a few hours.  If I make a typo during that
 process?  Well, I have to fix it, and wait another few hours for the process
 to happen again.



 They are giving us a very rudimentary “admin” interface, in which we can do
 about 10 different things:



 Export a mailbox to PST

 Add/Remove Mailbox Permission

 Add/Remove Delegate

 Activesync – Enable/Disable

 Activesync – Apply Policy

 OWA – Enable/Disable

 Apply Retention Policy

 Group Admin  (create or modify cross-forest distribution lists)

 Live Meeting Admin – If you paid for this service (we did not)

 Contact Admin – allows us to add, edit or delete Contacts within the system.



 That’s it.  That’s what I can directly affect.  Anything beyond that, I have
 to call the Helpdesk for the mail system, and wait.  The SLA’s vary, but
 with the track record of the organization that’s actually going to be doing
 the work, the wait time will be hours, days and for some things possibly
 weeks.





 Oh, and as far as saving money?  Umm, no.  We’re not completely in the
 system yet, but I’ve spoken to someone who’s department is, and he’s saying
 his costs went from about 30k per year for running Exchange in-house, to a
 cool half million now.



 Yippee!





 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:59 PM
 To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox



 I appreciate the irony. But please do not shoot the messenger. J



 Also, Clean-MailboxDatabase does not perform well “at scale”. In Microsoft’s
 perspective that means, when you have mailbox databases containing many
 thousands of mailboxes.



 That being said, there _IS_ a way in Exchange 2013 to simulate
 Clean-MailboxDatabase and have it perform well at scale. Whenever I have a
 few minutes, I plan on writing it up. J





 From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:38 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox



 Now that’s funny.  Exchange is “supposed” to be smart enough, so whether it
 is or not, we’re going to take away the tool you could use to make sure it
 happens…



 Awesome.



 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@smithconscom]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19 AM
 To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox



 Theoretically, you should never HAVE to run the cmdlet. Exchange is supposed
 to be smart enough to do this for you

 That is why the cmdlet is gone in Exchange 2013.

 Sent from my Windows Phone

 

 From: Guyer, Don
 Sent: 2/5/2013 3:54 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox

 When you run this command, aren't you just forcing  it to run right away so
 you don't have to wait until it runs when scheduled? We do this all the time
 with Xch2k7.

 That's the way I always understood it. Unless 2010 is different...

 Educate me as necessary.

 : )

 Regards,

 Don Guyer
 Catholic Health East - Information Technology
 Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
 email: dgu...@che.org
 Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the
 helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.



 -Original