RE: Activesync causing excessive transaction log growth on Exchange 2010
These things are throttled in Exchange 2013. Specifically because of this and similar issues. From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Activesync causing excessive transaction log growth on Exchange 2010 More than once, all I can say is apple's implementation of activesync is pure sh!t. Several ways to handle this - block them all:) - Use logparser to deduce which actual version and block it - Use logparser to see who's device, if not specific to a version, as mb problems can cause this for crappy devices. Good luck... jlc From: Leedy, Andy Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Activesync causing excessive transaction log growth on Exchange 2010 Has anyone seen this issue? https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4393486?start=0tstart=0 More importantly does anyone know what the fix is? Any help is greatly appreciated!! Thanks! Andy Leedy Messaging Systems Engineer Butler Schein Animal Health ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Schein Animal Health ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Private Notes / Minutes Tab
I would use Outlook forms. As long as no one else has the form loaded, they can't see the data. From: John Bonner [mailto:john.bon...@bmgi.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 5:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Private Notes / Minutes Tab Hello, As a software architect the CEO has asked me if I can program something to add a tab to Outlook meetings and appointments for PRIVATE use. I could go to great lengths putting something together using VSTO but I thought the brains on this list would likely know better ways and or existing products. For example I know you can get close using Forms Administrator utility/ Organizational Forms Libraries. Anyway all he is looking for (and I suggested one note but he wants it attached to the invite etc.) is a place for personal notes. TIA JB --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox
Now that's funny. Exchange is supposed to be smart enough, so whether it is or not, we're going to take away the tool you could use to make sure it happens... Awesome. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox Theoretically, you should never HAVE to run the cmdlet. Exchange is supposed to be smart enough to do this for you. That is why the cmdlet is gone in Exchange 2013. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Guyer, Don Sent: 2/5/2013 3:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox When you run this command, aren't you just forcing it to run right away so you don't have to wait until it runs when scheduled? We do this all the time with Xch2k7. That's the way I always understood it. Unless 2010 is different... Educate me as necessary. : ) Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox That was it. I saw in an MS support forum that the Clean-Mailboxdatabase db_name is needed for immediate access. Supposedly fixed in the current rollup (I'm not on it). Thank you, Tom -Original Message- From: Rupprecht, James R. [mailto:jimruppre...@ku.edu] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox Run Clean-MailboxDatabase against the database that hosts the reconnected mailbox. Jim Rupprecht KU Information Technology - Original Message - From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox We have an account that was disabled accidentally. I recreated the account in ADUC, and used the reconnect option in the EMC. However, when I go into the account on OWA, the web page states that the account is disabled, but it is not. Anyone have any suggestions? Tom --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Send-on-Behalf question
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote: I had a user ask a question the other day, and although it doesn’t make any sense to me, I thought I’d run it by the gurus here. Our Director’s executive assistant has full access to the Director’s mailbox/calendar, etc. She sends out meeting requests on behalf of the Director. She wants to know if it’s possible for replies to those messages, to only come to her, not the Director. Is that possible? Ouch. I sure hope not... Kurt --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Send-on-Behalf question
Outside of the box idea. She sends the meeting request from herself and includes the Director as an attendee. From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Send-on-Behalf question I had a user ask a question the other day, and although it doesn't make any sense to me, I thought I'd run it by the gurus here. Our Director's executive assistant has full access to the Director's mailbox/calendar, etc. She sends out meeting requests on behalf of the Director. She wants to know if it's possible for replies to those messages, to only come to her, not the Director. Is that possible? Thanks, Joe Heaton Enterprise Server Support CA Department of Fish and Wildlife 1807 13th Street, Suite 201 Sacramento, CA 95811 Desk: (916) 557-3422 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Send-on-Behalf question
Why not? Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send-on-Behalf question On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote: I had a user ask a question the other day, and although it doesn’t make any sense to me, I thought I’d run it by the gurus here. Our Director’s executive assistant has full access to the Director’s mailbox/calendar, etc. She sends out meeting requests on behalf of the Director. She wants to know if it’s possible for replies to those messages, to only come to her, not the Director. Is that possible? Ouch. I sure hope not... Kurt --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Send-on-Behalf question
In Exchange 2010 and above, I know it is. I think it is controlled by Set-MailboxCalendarConfiguration. I cannot remember if that cmdlet is in Exchange 2007 or not. It definitely is not there in Exchange 2003. (I don't have access to my lab while I'm travelling, or I'd verify the above for you. But I'm reasonably confident I have the cmdlet right.) From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Send-on-Behalf question I had a user ask a question the other day, and although it doesn't make any sense to me, I thought I'd run it by the gurus here. Our Director's executive assistant has full access to the Director's mailbox/calendar, etc. She sends out meeting requests on behalf of the Director. She wants to know if it's possible for replies to those messages, to only come to her, not the Director. Is that possible? Thanks, Joe Heaton Enterprise Server Support CA Department of Fish and Wildlife 1807 13th Street, Suite 201 Sacramento, CA 95811 Desk: (916) 557-3422 --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Send-on-Behalf question
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send-on-Behalf question On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote: I had a user ask a question the other day, and although it doesn’t make any sense to me, I thought I’d run it by the gurus here. Our Director’s executive assistant has full access to the Director’s mailbox/calendar, etc. She sends out meeting requests on behalf of the Director. She wants to know if it’s possible for replies to those messages, to only come to her, not the Director. Is that possible? Ouch. I sure hope not... Kurt Why not? Regards, Don Guyer The potential for abuse - the boss doesn't have visibility into what the assistant is doing. Even if the assistant is supremely trusted and trustworthy, mistakes happen, and nothing should happen in anyone's communications (especially an executive's) to which the owner doesn't have access. Even simple meeting requests can (will) contain more than a date and time, and she will be speaking with the Director's voice. Kurt --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Send-on-Behalf question
Understood but, that doesn't stop users from doing it that way. As long as the possible dangers are explained to them beforehand, our butts are covered. Although, that won't stop them from just going into their mailbox and setting it up on their own. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send-on-Behalf question On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 1:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Send-on-Behalf question On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote: I had a user ask a question the other day, and although it doesn’t make any sense to me, I thought I’d run it by the gurus here. Our Director’s executive assistant has full access to the Director’s mailbox/calendar, etc. She sends out meeting requests on behalf of the Director. She wants to know if it’s possible for replies to those messages, to only come to her, not the Director. Is that possible? Ouch. I sure hope not... Kurt Why not? Regards, Don Guyer The potential for abuse - the boss doesn't have visibility into what the assistant is doing. Even if the assistant is supremely trusted and trustworthy, mistakes happen, and nothing should happen in anyone's communications (especially an executive's) to which the owner doesn't have access. Even simple meeting requests can (will) contain more than a date and time, and she will be speaking with the Director's voice. Kurt --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox
I appreciate the irony. But please do not shoot the messenger. :) Also, Clean-MailboxDatabase does not perform well at scale. In Microsoft's perspective that means, when you have mailbox databases containing many thousands of mailboxes. That being said, there _IS_ a way in Exchange 2013 to simulate Clean-MailboxDatabase and have it perform well at scale. Whenever I have a few minutes, I plan on writing it up. :) From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox Now that's funny. Exchange is supposed to be smart enough, so whether it is or not, we're going to take away the tool you could use to make sure it happens... Awesome. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox Theoretically, you should never HAVE to run the cmdlet. Exchange is supposed to be smart enough to do this for you. That is why the cmdlet is gone in Exchange 2013. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Guyer, Don Sent: 2/5/2013 3:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox When you run this command, aren't you just forcing it to run right away so you don't have to wait until it runs when scheduled? We do this all the time with Xch2k7. That's the way I always understood it. Unless 2010 is different... Educate me as necessary. : ) Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox That was it. I saw in an MS support forum that the Clean-Mailboxdatabase db_name is needed for immediate access. Supposedly fixed in the current rollup (I'm not on it). Thank you, Tom -Original Message- From: Rupprecht, James R. [mailto:jimruppre...@ku.edu] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox Run Clean-MailboxDatabase against the database that hosts the reconnected mailbox. Jim Rupprecht KU Information Technology - Original Message - From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox We have an account that was disabled accidentally. I recreated the account in ADUC, and used the reconnect option in the EMC. However, when I go into the account on OWA, the web page states that the account is disabled, but it is not. Anyone have any suggestions? Tom --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage
RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox
Oh no, Michael, in all seriousness, my sarcasm was not, nor would it ever be, directed towards you personally. You have saved my bacon more than once, and are very much appreciated. I think some of my frustration is with the project that we in the State of California are being forced into. The original intent was to consolidate e-mail for the entire state, and to cut costs of each department running their own. Great idea. However, implementation is a nightmare. Microsoft O365 is what we're going to, but here's the catch. They are treating the entire state as one company. The problem with that, is that we are about 160 separate departments, each with our own users, etc. So, when you treat us as one company, how do you allow, for instance, me, to manage my users within Exchange. If you give me access to EMC, EMS or ECP, then I can make changes that could potentially affect other departments as well as my own. Well, we can't have that. So they're taking that access away from all departmental Exchange Admins. For me to create a mailbox, I have to go into ADUC, and use the Attribute Editor, and manually manipulate about 6 or 7 different attributes. An automatic sync happens every 30 minutes, and the creation gets processed back at Microsoft, in either San Antonio, or Chicago. Which could take up to a few hours. If I make a typo during that process? Well, I have to fix it, and wait another few hours for the process to happen again. They are giving us a very rudimentary admin interface, in which we can do about 10 different things: Export a mailbox to PST Add/Remove Mailbox Permission Add/Remove Delegate Activesync - Enable/Disable Activesync - Apply Policy OWA - Enable/Disable Apply Retention Policy Group Admin (create or modify cross-forest distribution lists) Live Meeting Admin - If you paid for this service (we did not) Contact Admin - allows us to add, edit or delete Contacts within the system. That's it. That's what I can directly affect. Anything beyond that, I have to call the Helpdesk for the mail system, and wait. The SLA's vary, but with the track record of the organization that's actually going to be doing the work, the wait time will be hours, days and for some things possibly weeks. Oh, and as far as saving money? Umm, no. We're not completely in the system yet, but I've spoken to someone who's department is, and he's saying his costs went from about 30k per year for running Exchange in-house, to a cool half million now. Yippee! From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:59 PM To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox I appreciate the irony. But please do not shoot the messenger. :) Also, Clean-MailboxDatabase does not perform well at scale. In Microsoft's perspective that means, when you have mailbox databases containing many thousands of mailboxes. That being said, there _IS_ a way in Exchange 2013 to simulate Clean-MailboxDatabase and have it perform well at scale. Whenever I have a few minutes, I plan on writing it up. :) From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox Now that's funny. Exchange is supposed to be smart enough, so whether it is or not, we're going to take away the tool you could use to make sure it happens... Awesome. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@smithconscommailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox Theoretically, you should never HAVE to run the cmdlet. Exchange is supposed to be smart enough to do this for you That is why the cmdlet is gone in Exchange 2013. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Guyer, Don Sent: 2/5/2013 3:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox When you run this command, aren't you just forcing it to run right away so you don't have to wait until it runs when scheduled? We do this all the time with Xch2k7. That's the way I always understood it. Unless 2010 is different... Educate me as necessary. : ) Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 4:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox That was it. I saw in an MS support forum that the Clean-Mailboxdatabase db_name
Re: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox
Wow. Please accept my most sincere condolences. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote: Oh no, Michael, in all seriousness, my sarcasm was not, nor would it ever be, directed towards you personally. You have saved my bacon more than once, and are very much appreciated. ** ** I think some of my frustration is with the project that we in the State of California are being forced into. The original intent was to consolidate e-mail for the entire state, and to cut costs of each department running their own. Great idea. However, implementation is a nightmare. Microsoft O365 is what we’re going to, but here’s the catch. They are treating the entire state as one company. The problem with that, is that we are about 160 separate departments, each with our own users, etc. So, when you treat us as one company, how do you allow, for instance, me, to manage my users within Exchange. If you give me access to EMC, EMS or ECP, then I can make changes that could potentially affect other departments as well as my own. Well, we can’t have that. So they’re taking that access away from all departmental Exchange Admins. For me to create a mailbox, I have to go into ADUC, and use the Attribute Editor, and manually manipulate about 6 or 7 different attributes. An automatic sync happens every 30 minutes, and the creation gets processed back at Microsoft, in either San Antonio, or Chicago. Which could take up to a few hours. If I make a typo during that process? Well, I have to fix it, and wait another few hours for the process to happen again. ** ** They are giving us a very rudimentary “admin” interface, in which we can do about 10 different things: ** ** Export a mailbox to PST Add/Remove Mailbox Permission Add/Remove Delegate Activesync – Enable/Disable Activesync – Apply Policy OWA – Enable/Disable Apply Retention Policy Group Admin (create or modify cross-forest distribution lists) Live Meeting Admin – If you paid for this service (we did not) Contact Admin – allows us to add, edit or delete Contacts within the system. ** ** That’s it. That’s what I can directly affect. Anything beyond that, I have to call the Helpdesk for the mail system, and wait. The SLA’s vary, but with the track record of the organization that’s actually going to be doing the work, the wait time will be hours, days and for some things possibly weeks. ** ** ** ** Oh, and as far as saving money? Umm, no. We’re not completely in the system yet, but I’ve spoken to someone who’s department is, and he’s saying his costs went from about 30k per year for running Exchange in-house, to a cool half million now. ** ** Yippee! ** ** ** ** *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:59 PM *To:* Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox ** ** I appreciate the irony. But please do not shoot the messenger. J ** ** Also, Clean-MailboxDatabase does not perform well “at scale”. In Microsoft’s perspective that means, when you have mailbox databases containing many thousands of mailboxes. ** ** That being said, there _*IS*_ a way in Exchange 2013 to simulate Clean-MailboxDatabase and have it perform well at scale. Whenever I have a few minutes, I plan on writing it up. J ** ** ** ** *From:* Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.govjoseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] *Sent:* Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:38 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox ** ** Now that’s funny. Exchange is “supposed” to be smart enough, so whether it is or not, we’re going to take away the tool you could use to make sure it happens… ** ** Awesome. ** ** *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@smithconscommich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19 AM *To:* Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox ** ** Theoretically, you should never HAVE to run the cmdlet. Exchange is supposed to be smart enough to do this for you That is why the cmdlet is gone in Exchange 2013. Sent from my Windows Phone -- *From: *Guyer, Don *Sent: *2/5/2013 3:54 PM *To: *MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject: *RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox When you run this command, aren't you just forcing it to run right away so you don't have to wait until it runs when scheduled? We do this all the time with Xch2k7. That's the way I always understood it. Unless 2010 is different... Educate me as necessary. : ) Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester
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While we don't have the full budgeting picture, it sounds like the classic Penny wise and pound foolish. Kurt On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote: Oh no, Michael, in all seriousness, my sarcasm was not, nor would it ever be, directed towards you personally. You have saved my bacon more than once, and are very much appreciated. I think some of my frustration is with the project that we in the State of California are being forced into. The original intent was to consolidate e-mail for the entire state, and to cut costs of each department running their own. Great idea. However, implementation is a nightmare. Microsoft O365 is what we’re going to, but here’s the catch. They are treating the entire state as one company. The problem with that, is that we are about 160 separate departments, each with our own users, etc. So, when you treat us as one company, how do you allow, for instance, me, to manage my users within Exchange. If you give me access to EMC, EMS or ECP, then I can make changes that could potentially affect other departments as well as my own. Well, we can’t have that. So they’re taking that access away from all departmental Exchange Admins. For me to create a mailbox, I have to go into ADUC, and use the Attribute Editor, and manually manipulate about 6 or 7 different attributes. An automatic sync happens every 30 minutes, and the creation gets processed back at Microsoft, in either San Antonio, or Chicago. Which could take up to a few hours. If I make a typo during that process? Well, I have to fix it, and wait another few hours for the process to happen again. They are giving us a very rudimentary “admin” interface, in which we can do about 10 different things: Export a mailbox to PST Add/Remove Mailbox Permission Add/Remove Delegate Activesync – Enable/Disable Activesync – Apply Policy OWA – Enable/Disable Apply Retention Policy Group Admin (create or modify cross-forest distribution lists) Live Meeting Admin – If you paid for this service (we did not) Contact Admin – allows us to add, edit or delete Contacts within the system. That’s it. That’s what I can directly affect. Anything beyond that, I have to call the Helpdesk for the mail system, and wait. The SLA’s vary, but with the track record of the organization that’s actually going to be doing the work, the wait time will be hours, days and for some things possibly weeks. Oh, and as far as saving money? Umm, no. We’re not completely in the system yet, but I’ve spoken to someone who’s department is, and he’s saying his costs went from about 30k per year for running Exchange in-house, to a cool half million now. Yippee! From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:59 PM To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox I appreciate the irony. But please do not shoot the messenger. J Also, Clean-MailboxDatabase does not perform well “at scale”. In Microsoft’s perspective that means, when you have mailbox databases containing many thousands of mailboxes. That being said, there _IS_ a way in Exchange 2013 to simulate Clean-MailboxDatabase and have it perform well at scale. Whenever I have a few minutes, I plan on writing it up. J From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox Now that’s funny. Exchange is “supposed” to be smart enough, so whether it is or not, we’re going to take away the tool you could use to make sure it happens… Awesome. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@smithconscom] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox Theoretically, you should never HAVE to run the cmdlet. Exchange is supposed to be smart enough to do this for you That is why the cmdlet is gone in Exchange 2013. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Guyer, Don Sent: 2/5/2013 3:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox When you run this command, aren't you just forcing it to run right away so you don't have to wait until it runs when scheduled? We do this all the time with Xch2k7. That's the way I always understood it. Unless 2010 is different... Educate me as necessary. : ) Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original