RE: SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Title: Message



The 
60KB uplink speed is a common speed for satellite 
transmission.
 
This 
is dealing with terrestrial RF broadband - not satellite. No clue why the 
subject says satellite.

  -Original Message-From: Michael 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:36 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: SATELLITE DSL 
  WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?
  
  Their least expensive 
  package (SkyPipeline) comes with symmetrical 256kb, 
  I am not familiar with the “60KB” you mentioned 
  here….
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Michael 
  Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 
  2002 11:03 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE 
  SMTP?
   
  What 
  about the upload speed. If you are running an exchange server on the site, and 
  you are sending the data out over satellite, you are going to have a 60KB 
  upload rate or something like that aren’t you? That is what stopped us from 
  setting up an exchange server on a remote site.
   
  Michael
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Brian 
  Politis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: July 13, 
  2002 2:11 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE 
  SMTP?
   
  
  70ms 
  latency is excellent.  In fact it's so good, I don't belive there's any 
  way satellite can provide this kind of latency. I've used several satellite 
  rigs, and none come in under 500ms latency.  Either their smoking crack, 
  or 70 ms is some BS their makreting department came up with that refers to 
  internal latencies on their wired network, and doesn't represent what 
  customer's see over their true satellite links.  You can't pump data into 
  near earch orbit, and back that fast; the distances are far enough that the 
  speed of an electron becomes an issue.
  
   
  
  That 
  being said, most web protocols SMTP, FTP, HTTP, etc.  were initial 
  designed for slow dial up networks with high latency.  And will run fine 
  over the 500+ ms latencies of a satellite network.  Issues would arise 
  with other protols such as Citrix ICA, MS RDP or SNA.  If your users want 
  to just browse the web, and POP mail they should be 
  fine.
  
-Original 
Message-From: Michael 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 12, 
2002 11:51 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: 
SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?
Thanks.  Yes, we were talking about “high 
speed connection”.  The issue of 
latency seems to be acceptable at certain levels… One such measurement, 
70ms, comes from a company called www.SkyPipeline.com.  If latency is an *ENEMY* to good line speed what will it 
mean to have 70ms using “interactive applications” specifically remote 
access software?
 
“…guaranteed 
to have an average round trip packet transit time within SkyPipeline's 
Broadband Wireless Network over a calendar month of 70ms or less. The 
average network latency is measured as the average of 15-minute samples 
taken throughout the month”
 
-Original 
Message-From: Benjamin 
Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 
2002 9:31 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: 
SATELLITE DSL WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?
 

As 
long as you get static ip it should be okay. Others may complain about the 
terminology you are using, since DSL is a connection method and so is 
satellite so I'm presuming you are talking about satellite for high speed 
connectivity. There will be latency but it shouldn't matter too 
much
-Original 
  Message-From: 
  Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 
  2002 6:33 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: SATELLITE 
  DSL WITH EXCHANGE SMTP?
  We are in 
  Ventura County, 
  CA and just found out from the ISP that 
  slots on the D-SLAM may not be available for our IDSL connection.  How well does satellite DSL weigh 
  in with SMTP mail on an Exchange Server environment? Thanks. Michael 
  
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RE: OWA logon

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Who needs him? Fire him!

-Original Message-
From: Garland Mac Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA logon


It was my CEO that had this problem.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA logon

That was my next choice


-Original Message-
From:   Bill Kuhn - MCSE [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: OWA logon

Or fire the user.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA logon


Or change the alias to match username?

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Meunier [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: OWA logon

...in which case, the two solutions are 
1.  Log in as domain\username\alias
2.  Log in with the primary smtp address.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:35 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OWA logon
> 
> 
> What I've noticed is that the alias is not the same as the

> domain username.
> 
> Pat Smith
> MCP, CCNA, CCA
> Systems Administrator
> FishNet Security
> 816.421.6611
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: Bill Beckett
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:28 PM
> To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject:  RE: OWA logon
> 
> That could be it, thanks
> 
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From:   Garland Mac Neill
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent:   Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:29 PM
>   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>   Subject:RE: OWA logon
> 
>   When I noticed this on our system, it was because
the 
> default email address
>   or reply to address(which appreantly OWA uses to
retrieve
the
> mailbox) was
>   not the same as the username. 
> 
>   Garland
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>   Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:22 AM
>   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>   Subject: OWA logon
> 
>   Can someone explain what the problem is here:
> 
>   Exchange 5.5, IIS4, OWA installed. A user is trying
to 
> access their mailbox
>   from the web. After logging in, they get a page that

> says OWA was unable to
>   get to your inbox. To try and login again, click
here. 
> When I click, it
>   takes them back to the main page, then if I enter
the 
> users mailbox name
>   (not user name), it allows them in. Why am I getting

> the error in the
>   beginning?
> 
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RE: OWA logon

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Or fire the user.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA logon


Or change the alias to match username?

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Meunier [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: OWA logon

...in which case, the two solutions are 
1.  Log in as domain\username\alias
2.  Log in with the primary smtp address.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:35 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OWA logon
> 
> 
> What I've noticed is that the alias is not the same as the 
> domain username.
> 
> Pat Smith
> MCP, CCNA, CCA
> Systems Administrator
> FishNet Security
> 816.421.6611
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:28 PM
> To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject:  RE: OWA logon
> 
> That could be it, thanks
> 
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From:   Garland Mac Neill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent:   Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:29 PM
>   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>   Subject:RE: OWA logon
> 
>   When I noticed this on our system, it was because the 
> default email address
>   or reply to address(which appreantly OWA uses to retrieve
the
> mailbox) was
>   not the same as the username. 
> 
>   Garland
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: Bill Beckett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>   Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:22 AM
>   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>   Subject: OWA logon
> 
>   Can someone explain what the problem is here:
> 
>   Exchange 5.5, IIS4, OWA installed. A user is trying to 
> access their mailbox
>   from the web. After logging in, they get a page that 
> says OWA was unable to
>   get to your inbox. To try and login again, click here. 
> When I click, it
>   takes them back to the main page, then if I enter the 
> users mailbox name
>   (not user name), it allows them in. Why am I getting 
> the error in the
>   beginning?
> 
> 
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RE: VIRUS HELL!!!! ...help?

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

How about de-selecting Preview Pane in the View Menu?

-Original Message-
From: aci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: VIRUS HELL ...help?


TIA---

I am looking for a bit of help on the antivirus problems I am having
today.

Today there seems to be heavy virus activity regarding email with an
attachment "decrypt-password.exe" These files are being blocked at the
exchange gateway. Only the "alert.txt message comes through with the
original email. However, there must be some form of embedded VB script in
the body of the message. As the message hits the inbox, it somehow enables
the "Preview pane" on the inbox, makes this message always be the first
message and runs the script. What I am looking for is some way to disable
the preview pane (before opening outlook) so that I can click on the inbox
and delete the message. I do not want to add the "security patch" to
outlook, as this is not an option currently.

Does anyone know of a reg-hack where I can disable the preview pane for
Outlook??? Please let me know any and all ideas. \

BIG THANKS!
aci

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RE: UGH

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

>>Who said this list was full of cutups and worthless scoundrels???<<

- I did...um, no, I wasn't that nice about it...

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: UGH


Andy you are a lifesaver. I knew I was overlooking something very basic. 

Who said this list was full of cutups and worthless scoundrels???

Thank you Andy
- Original Message - 
From: Andy David 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: UGH


Just so we are clear: Under My Computer/Right-Click Properties/Network 
Identification/More/Primary DNS Suffix For this Computer: You have the correct DNS 
info?

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: UGH


EXCH5.5 W2K Server

I was in the process of trying to resolve this install of the new IMS when all of a 
sudden, I can not receive messages from the list anymore!! I am not sure what is going 
on, but they are not even getting to my old IMS anymore. It is JUST this list too. 
Everything else seems to be working fine. I don't know.

Anyway, I am installing an IMS on a new Windows 2000 server (Exch 5.5) and I can not 
get past the DNS issue. I tried everything. It claims that the DNS is not set up 
properly, but I verified everything. The TCP IP settings are slightly different than 
NT4 of course, but here is what I have set:

Append these suffixes in order:

mydomain.com

DNS suffix for this connection: mydomain.com

I also checked the "register this DNS" box but honestly don't know if that makes a 
difference. I am very frustrated. I need to move this IMS soon. Does anyone have any 
ideas as to why I keep getting the following message? TIA

"The Internet Mail Service requires the DNS domain to be configured on . To 
configure the domain name, use the NETOWRK icon in the control panel XXX or choose 
another server."
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RE: Where is the POP3 Connector

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

If you really need to suck email from a pop server and get it to your exchange 
mailboxes, you might head over to www.lockstep.com and look at IGETMAIL. IGETMAIL runs 
as a service (or not - your choice) on most anything and is designed to pull POP mail 
at regular intervals and deliver it to Exchange or other email servers using SMTP. It 
is cheap ($69) and it works. I use it to suck mail into my E2K box out here in the 
middle of nowhere over my dial-up cup-and-string connection.

Of course you can just have Outlook do it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Where is the POP3 Connector


I am looking to download POP3 email from 4 separate accounts on 2 ISPs.  The
only information I have been able to find in Technet references SBS.  Is it
available for Exchange 5.5/2000 (I can install it on either but prefer
2000)?

Thanks in advance.

Dan Munley

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RE: It's Friday!!

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Title: Message



Thank 
God, somebody on here is older than me!
 
44  (with a 16 and a 2 yr old boy)

  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 3:37 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: It's 
  Friday!!
  Byte 
  me!
   
  46
  
-Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:33 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: It's 
Friday!!
I 
am so freaking old I'm thinking about arguing for early acceptance for 
Kroger's Seniors discount...
 
26

  -Original Message-From: Matthew Carpenter 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 3:49 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: It's 
  Friday!!
  
  Has anyone 
  noticed that most of the responses are from the 20 somethings? 
  lol
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  TWU-Durham, Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 
  2002 2:47 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: It's 
  Friday!!
   
  Ripe 
  age of 22 J
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Precht, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 
  2002 2:41 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: It's 
  Friday!!
   
  
  i 
  just turned 24
  
-Original 
Message-From: Paul 
Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 03, 
2002 14:26 
To: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: 
It's Friday!!

i 
just turned 22 haha ;)

  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Posted At: Friday, May 03, 
  2002 11:21 
  AMPosted To: Exchange 2000 
  ServerConversation: 
  It's Friday!!Subject: RE: It's 
  Friday!!
  Man how old 
  are you guys???
   
  Lol
   
  My daughter 
  makes me feel old, but YOU guys keep me young!
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 
  2002 12:57 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 
  It's Friday!!
   
  
  Hey Martin 
  congrats, My two girls have grown and moved on but keep coming back 
  with grandkids. Enjoy it really does go quick. I will have a beer in 
  Vegas next for you.
  
   
  
  dave
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 03, 
2002 11:17 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: 
It's Friday!!

Very Nice! 
You be the MAN! Cheerish the moments as they seem to go by so 
fast. 

MJ

3 sons, all 
gone.

  -Original 
  Message -From: Martin Blackstone 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 03, 
  2002 6:49 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: 
  RE: It's Friday!!
  
  http://216.39.101.68/martin/index.htm
  
-Original 
Message-From: Matthew Carpenter 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 
2002 
6:27 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: 
RE: It's Friday!!
I don't 
get it
 
-Original 
Message-From: Martin Blackstone 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 
8:23 AMTo: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: It's 
Friday!!
 

I have 
a baby

  -Original 
  Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 
  2002 5:55 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: It's 
  Friday!!
  Whoo Hoo, it's 
  Friday, I have lots of Krispy Kreme doughnuts (including a few 
  crullers), Kona Special Blend coffee, and I have Monday 
  off.  Three day weekend, yippee!  
  It's going to be a 
  GOOD day!! 
  Sherry 
  Abercrombie Data 
  Center Administration Team 
  

RE: out of topic

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Title: RE: out of topic



For 
windows2000, ya dummy! Don't ya read?
 
Just 
the right list, not the left list or even the center list.
 
I have 
the slightly left of center list, but that wouldn't do in this 
case.

  -Original Message-From: Matthew Carpenter 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:00 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: out of 
  topic
  The right list for what? 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Matina Deen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:40 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  out of topic 
  Hi all, Where can I see the right list 
  for windows2000? thanks -- Matina 
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RE: McAFEE SUPERDAT Update Problem

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

I just ran the 4198 SuperDat on my 4.5.0 VirusScan on my 2000 Pro laptop and it 
updated and restarted scan just like always..

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Cc: 'NTSYSADMIN List'
Subject: McAFEE SUPERDAT Update Problem


Has anyone else seen this today. We use the McAfee Virusscan Console on one
of our Servers to go out several times daily looking for the latest SUPERDAT
update, and then we use the Console on the workstations (WIN 98SE) to go out
randomly to our Server and apply the SUPERDAT Update. Today, the SUPERDAT
failed to restart Virusscan after running the update and we all had to
reboot in order for it to become active. After the reboot, all workstations
had been updated and the Virusscan software started normally.

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RE: Does anyone know

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

I agree. I still have some customers using Outlook 98 because they do
not use Exchange and are too cheap to upgrade from Office 97. It works
fine for them (and it worked OK for me too back when I used it)..

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Does anyone know


I don't mean to be argumentative, but we were previously using Outlook
98 before we upgraded to Office 2000, and we had absolutely no problems
at all.
 
Murray

-Original Message-
From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Does anyone know



Hi All, 
Please.. Please.. Please.. Don't use Outlook 98, it is so bug ridden
it's not funny. If you can't run Outlook 2K, then  use the Outlook that
comes with Exchange 5.0. Your going to have nothing but constant
problem(s) with Outlook 98. Maybe not immediately.. But eventually you
will. Not even MS recommends 98 anymore.

For what's it's worth.. 
-Original Message- 
From: William Lefkovics [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:37 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Does anyone know 


Access Control Lists (permissions) 

-Original Message- 
From: Mitchell Mike [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:23 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Does anyone know 


Kevin, 

what is acls? 

Regards, 

Mike Mitchell 
Systems eMAIL Administrator 
Alverno Information Services 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 


-Original Message- 
From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:58 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Does anyone know 


ACLs - for that is what we are viewing with the Permissions tab are
based on the server. If you aren't connected you won't see them.

Kevin 

-Original Message- 
From: Mitchell Mike [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
Sent: 22 March 2002 15:49 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Does anyone know 


Good morning, 

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 sp4 

Does anyone know how to turn on the permissions tab on for the calendar
properties page? 

I cannot find that information anywhere. 

Thanks and have a wonderful weekend. 

Regards, 

Mike Mitchell 
Systems eMAIL Administrator 
Alverno Information Services 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 


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RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

That's a mighty good word IMHO.

-Original Message-
From: Ambrose, Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 2:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks


One word

ANTIGEN

www.sybari.com


Joseph Ambrose
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The Conference Board
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 -Original Message-
From:   Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, March 20, 2002 6:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks

No, we have A/V.  I'm looking at alternatives to IncoulateIT.

-
Ken Leyba
Windows/Exchange System Administrator
California State University Dominguez Hills


> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:54 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> 
> 
> no anti-virus?? egads... 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:49 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> 
> 
> That's the rub.  We have had no problems with on campus 
> users.  All of our
> Exchange problems have been viruses.  I would have rather 
> spent the time and
> money on a virus wall, content inspection or an alternative 
> A/V solution.
> 
> -
> Ken Leyba
> Windows/Exchange System Administrator
> California State University Dominguez Hills
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:40 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > 
> > 
> > I have never worked for an .edu [1], but from my experience 
> > with people who
> > have, they often have users that like to test the boundaries 
> > of security and
> > go as far as their IT department allow.  I hope your students 
> > are not as
> > ambitious.
> > 
> > It's great you'll be able to block, say, ftp to Exchange, but 
> > the other
> > holes open up too many opportunities for fun.  Move the 
> firewall from
> > between the users and Exchange to between the internet and 
> the users.
> > 
> > [1] Hi Jamie
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:35 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > 
> > 
> > IT.
> > 
> > -
> > Ken Leyba
> > Windows/Exchange System Administrator
> > California State University Dominguez Hills
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:34 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The more important firewall is between the internet and your 
> > > organisation.
> > > 
> > > What is this guy a director of?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes, the clients will use POP/SMTP, IMAP and MAPI.  That 
> > was my point
> > > exactly, we'll have two Swiss Cheese firewalls.  Unless the 
> > > Cisco PIX can do
> > > some kind of magic firewall tricks that I don't know about.
> > > 
> > > Ken
> > > 
> > > -
> > > Ken Leyba
> > > Windows/Exchange System Administrator
> > > California State University Dominguez Hills
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:22 PM
> > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > How are you intending these users access the exchange server? 
> > > > MAPI client
> > > > like Outlook?  
> > > > 
> > > > The holes necessary for your users to communicate with 
> > > > Exchange are such
> > > > that your firewall between the users and Exchange has been 
> > > > rendered useless.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Ken Leyba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:15 PM
> > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: Stupid Firewall Tricks
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Our director wants us to implement a firewall in front of 
> > > our Windows
> > > > 2000/Exchange 5.5 servers.  Here is what the scenario is:
> > > > 
> > > > Internet <--> Users <--> Firewall <--> Exchange
> > > > 
> > > > On the Exchange side we have the DC's, Exchange, IMC, OWA, 
> > > > etc. servers.  On
> > > > the public side we have the Windows 98/2000 clients, WINS 
> > > > server (which is a
> > > > whole different issue) and Internet.  There is a firewall 
> > before the
> > > > Internet connection but it is basically usel

RE: Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile?

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

I don't see the need for it.

Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple
extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an
application.

Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set
to filter .VBS.

It's never missed one for me.


-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile?


We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server.  We were advised by
Sybari
support to include the filter, "*.*.*", which they said are often
viruses
(e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were
quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I
compromised and removed that filter.  We are filtering exe, bat, cmd,
com,
vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and "*.*}" (whatever that
is).
Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently.  As I
understand it, the "*.*.*" filter would only come into play on a new
virus
for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting
language that we are not filtering.

I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering
"*.*.*" attachments.  

How many of you are using that filter?  

Do you think it adds significant protection?

Have we missed any valuable filters?

TIA

Bob Peitzke
Information Systems Manager
Sander A. Kessler & Associates
Santa Monica, CA, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Attachment blocking Now what!

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

I agree. It is pretty annoying to have to enter each extension and each
action for each filter for each server by hand. I hope they will spiff
up the interface to make that easier (cut and paste, import from file,
something..).

Once you have the attachments done though... it's great!

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Attachment blocking Now what!


I have been demoing Antigen and that is a huge issue to me

-Original Message-
From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:01 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Attachment blocking Now what!



Now... if antigen would only support cut and paste file filtering
options!!

Preston Craig Jeffares
Network Engineer
Georgia Department of Motor Vehicle Safety


-Original Message-
From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Attachment blocking Now what!


Ok for those of you that block all attachments including .exe .com .jpg
.gif
. How do you deliver legitimate attachments to your folks. I want to
implement this but I would like to hear the process of others. I don't
want
to have to spend all day manually delivering somebodies pictures of
their
kids to them. thanks in advance.

dave

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RE: new dat files where is it?

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Just block the .COM attachment (as part of your overall executable
attachment blocking policy). Even Groupshield allows you to do that.

Antigen is having no problem with it.

-Original Message-
From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: new dat files where is it?


NAI shows under Virus alerts the W32/Myparty.a@MM is a medium risk virus
and
that the update will be released 01/30/2002. Thats tommorrow!! this
thing is
getting thru now. anyone have any other info.

dave

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RE: OoOffice

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

You mean like the part where you subscribe to mailing lists like this
and your incredibly annoying brainless autoreplies to all posters on the
list move your status on the list to something akin to Mullah Omar, and
you soon find strangers giving you dirty looks and wonder 

"Are they after me because I autoreplied??"

Is that what you are talking about?

-Original Message-
From: Cross, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OoOffice


  Other than the issues with virus' and looping, what are some other
pitfall
of auto replies to the internet?  Anyone ever been bitten by this like I
have?  Putting together a case to keep mine off and I need some ammo.

Thanks,

Tom


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RE: Deperate--Still

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

I'm gonna try this and see what happens. It makes sense if the ZIP files
are ignored because of the filter you set on them AND the EXE scan
doesn't bother with the ZIP because it was specifically ignored..

Maybe...?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Deperate--Still


FYI -- this blocks unwanted file types, but doesn't block them if
they're
inside zip files.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
The Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"Information Superhighway is really an acronym for 'Interactive Network
For
Organizing, Retrieving, Manipulating, Accessing And Transferring
Information
On National Systems, Unleashing Practically Every Rebellious Human
Intelligence, Gratifying Hackers, Wiseacres, And Yahoos'." -Keven Kwaku 
-



-Original Message-
From: Radu, Tibi 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:59 AM
To: Sharik, Michèle
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


I added *.zip to the filter list and selected "Detect Only" in the
Action
list.

-Original Message-
From: Sharik, Michèle 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Radu, Tibi
Subject: FW: Deperate--Still


So how did we get our installation to ignore the stuff inside zip files?

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
The Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"Captain, could I play some jazz?" "Make it soul, No. 1" 
-


-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


Nope.  If you filter *.exe or any other extension, Antigen will strip it
from a zip archive and replace it with .txt.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


If you don't specifically filter *.ZIP (i.e. take it out of your filter
list), Antigen will ignore ZIPs.

I send ZIPs with various included file types back and forth with clients
very frequently.

-Original Message-
From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


How did you do that? I can't get it to ignore zipfiles :(


> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: donderdag 6 december 2001 17:48
> Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Onderwerp: RE: Deperate--Still
> 
> 
> we use Antigen & we can ignore things inside zip files
> ::confused:
> 
> -Michèle
> Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> The Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> -
> Kaden thought of the old Klingon proverb: Fool me once, shame
> on you: fool
> me twice, prepare to die. 
> -
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 6:49 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Deperate--Still
> 
> 
> Then why can Antigen be installed on our testserver and scanmail does 
> not? According to scanmail, the core cannot be installed on that
> system, even
> tho win2k + Ex2k are installed and working just fine.
> One thing i miss in Antigen is the ability to ignore zipfiles that
> contain filtered extensions, i WANT to be able to 
> send/receive zipfiles
> with .exe's in em. and so do some of our customers (who 
> weren't all
> that excited this morning after i installed Antigen on our server last
> night, one of their clients regularly send zipfiles with 
> .exe's in them
> hehe)
> 
> But for the rest i do love Antigen.
> 
>  wonder why Scanmail won't install tho  any ideas?
> 
> Bob
> 
> All your beer are belong to us!
> 
> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> > Van: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Verzonden: woensdag 5 december 2001 21:38
> > Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Onderwerp: RE: Deperate--Still
> > 
> > 
> > Or Scanmail. Either should do the job just fine
> > 
>

FW: Deperate--Still

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Well I tried it and it worked! 

I added filters on *.zip and *.exe.

The *.exe filter I set to quarrantine, notify, and delete.

The *.ZIP filter I set to quarrantine, NOT notify, and DETECT.

Now when sending or receiving a ZIP attachment that contains an EXE, I
get notified (even though I set it to no) that Antigen detected a ZIP
file, but the ZIP file is passed unmolested to the recipient. I do not
get notified that the ZIP contains an EXE, so apparently the specific
ZIP filter overrides any other filters.

Cool!

So I'll unhumble myself from last weeks discussion where I seemed to be
wrong about Antigen not being able to pass EXEs in ZIPs if EXEs were
filtered. Sheesh!...Like I'd be wrong about something! I knew it all
along - I just wanted to see if anyone else was smart.


-Original Message-----
From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:48 PM
To: 'MS-Exchange Admin Issues'
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


I'm gonna try this and see what happens. It makes sense if the ZIP files
are ignored because of the filter you set on them AND the EXE scan
doesn't bother with the ZIP because it was specifically ignored..

Maybe...?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Deperate--Still


FYI -- this blocks unwanted file types, but doesn't block them if
they're
inside zip files.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
The Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"Information Superhighway is really an acronym for 'Interactive Network
For
Organizing, Retrieving, Manipulating, Accessing And Transferring
Information
On National Systems, Unleashing Practically Every Rebellious Human
Intelligence, Gratifying Hackers, Wiseacres, And Yahoos'." -Keven Kwaku 
-



-Original Message-
From: Radu, Tibi 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:59 AM
To: Sharik, Michèle
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


I added *.zip to the filter list and selected "Detect Only" in the
Action
list.

-Original Message-
From: Sharik, Michèle 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Radu, Tibi
Subject: FW: Deperate--Still


So how did we get our installation to ignore the stuff inside zip files?

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
The Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
"Captain, could I play some jazz?" "Make it soul, No. 1" 
-


-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


Nope.  If you filter *.exe or any other extension, Antigen will strip it
from a zip archive and replace it with .txt.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


If you don't specifically filter *.ZIP (i.e. take it out of your filter
list), Antigen will ignore ZIPs.

I send ZIPs with various included file types back and forth with clients
very frequently.

-Original Message-
From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


How did you do that? I can't get it to ignore zipfiles :(


> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: donderdag 6 december 2001 17:48
> Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Onderwerp: RE: Deperate--Still
> 
> 
> we use Antigen & we can ignore things inside zip files
> ::confused:
> 
> -Michèle
> Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> The Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> -
> Kaden thought of the old Klingon proverb: Fool me once, shame
> on you: fool
> me twice, prepare to die. 
> -
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 6:49 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Deperate--Still
> 
> 
> Then why can Antigen be installed on our testserver and scanmail does 
> not? According to scanmail, the core cannot be installed on that
> system, even
> tho win2k + Ex2k are installed and working

RE: Deperate--Still

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Now I wanna hear this. I made that claim earlier and was proven wrong..

If it actually will ignore EXEs in ZIPs, I'll unhumble myself and say I
told you so..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


Ours ignores any filtered file types (such as .exe) if they are inside
zips.

I will get specifics from the guy who configures it.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
The Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
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-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


Nope.  If you filter *.exe or any other extension, Antigen will strip it
from a zip archive and replace it with .txt.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


If you don't specifically filter *.ZIP (i.e. take it out of your filter
list), Antigen will ignore ZIPs.

I send ZIPs with various included file types back and forth with clients
very frequently.

-Original Message-
From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


How did you do that? I can't get it to ignore zipfiles :(


> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: donderdag 6 december 2001 17:48
> Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Onderwerp: RE: Deperate--Still
> 
> 
> we use Antigen & we can ignore things inside zip files
> ::confused:
> 
> -Michèle
> Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> The Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> -
> Kaden thought of the old Klingon proverb: Fool me once, shame
> on you: fool
> me twice, prepare to die. 
> -
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 6:49 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Deperate--Still
> 
> 
> Then why can Antigen be installed on our testserver and scanmail does 
> not? According to scanmail, the core cannot be installed on that
> system, even
> tho win2k + Ex2k are installed and working just fine.
> One thing i miss in Antigen is the ability to ignore zipfiles that
> contain filtered extensions, i WANT to be able to 
> send/receive zipfiles
> with .exe's in em. and so do some of our customers (who 
> weren't all
> that excited this morning after i installed Antigen on our server last
> night, one of their clients regularly send zipfiles with 
> .exe's in them
> hehe)
> 
> But for the rest i do love Antigen.
> 
>  wonder why Scanmail won't install tho  any ideas?
> 
> Bob
> 
> All your beer are belong to us!
> 
> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> > Van: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Verzonden: woensdag 5 december 2001 21:38
> > Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Onderwerp: RE: Deperate--Still
> > 
> > 
> > Or Scanmail. Either should do the job just fine
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:31 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Deperate--Still
> > 
> > 
> > www.sybari.com has their Antigen product which uninstalls
> > very cleanly (from
> > experience) should you not choose to run with it.
> > 
> > William
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:31 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Deperate--Still
> > 
> > 
> > Sorry for the last post.
> > 
> > My brain is not working at full capacity--I have been at this
> > all day. 
> > the post should have read--I am seeking a trial version of an 
> > AV mailserver
> > product.  I am running Exchange 5.5/SP4 on an NT server 
> > running 4.0/SP6.
> > So, I need to get AV on the server which has none.  A full 
> > trial verion
> > would be nice to st

RE: Deperate--Still

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

You are correct. I had tested filtering EXE's a while ago and thought it
worked wonderfully, but I guess I hadn't actually tried sending one in a
zip. 

I just tested filtering EXEs and sent a zip with an EXE in it and
Antigen dutifully yanked it. I also tried deselecting ZIPFILES from the
file types for the EXE filter and it still pulled it.

Currently I'm not filtering EXEs. 

I stand humbled..

-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


Nope.  If you filter *.exe or any other extension, Antigen will strip it
from a zip archive and replace it with .txt.

-Original Message-----
From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


If you don't specifically filter *.ZIP (i.e. take it out of your filter
list), Antigen will ignore ZIPs.

I send ZIPs with various included file types back and forth with clients
very frequently.

-Original Message-
From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


How did you do that? I can't get it to ignore zipfiles :(


> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: donderdag 6 december 2001 17:48
> Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Onderwerp: RE: Deperate--Still
> 
> 
> we use Antigen & we can ignore things inside zip files
> ::confused:
> 
> -Michèle
> Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
> The Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
> Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
> -
> Kaden thought of the old Klingon proverb: Fool me once, shame
> on you: fool
> me twice, prepare to die. 
> -
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 6:49 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Deperate--Still
> 
> 
> Then why can Antigen be installed on our testserver and scanmail does 
> not? According to scanmail, the core cannot be installed on that
> system, even
> tho win2k + Ex2k are installed and working just fine.
> One thing i miss in Antigen is the ability to ignore zipfiles that
> contain filtered extensions, i WANT to be able to 
> send/receive zipfiles
> with .exe's in em. and so do some of our customers (who 
> weren't all
> that excited this morning after i installed Antigen on our server last
> night, one of their clients regularly send zipfiles with 
> .exe's in them
> hehe)
> 
> But for the rest i do love Antigen.
> 
>  wonder why Scanmail won't install tho  any ideas?
> 
> Bob
> 
> All your beer are belong to us!
> 
> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> > Van: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Verzonden: woensdag 5 december 2001 21:38
> > Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Onderwerp: RE: Deperate--Still
> > 
> > 
> > Or Scanmail. Either should do the job just fine
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:31 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Deperate--Still
> > 
> > 
> > www.sybari.com has their Antigen product which uninstalls
> > very cleanly (from
> > experience) should you not choose to run with it.
> > 
> > William
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:31 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Deperate--Still
> > 
> > 
> > Sorry for the last post.
> > 
> > My brain is not working at full capacity--I have been at this
> > all day. 
> > the post should have read--I am seeking a trial version of an 
> > AV mailserver
> > product.  I am running Exchange 5.5/SP4 on an NT server 
> > running 4.0/SP6.
> > So, I need to get AV on the server which has none.  A full 
> > trial verion
> > would be nice to start with.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > JRiley
> > 
> > List Charter and FAQ at: 
> > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
> > 
> > List Charter and FAQ at: 
> > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
> > 
> > 
> 
> List Charter and FAQ at: 
> http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
> 
> List Charter and FAQ at: 
> http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
> 
> 

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RE: Deperate--Still

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

If you don't specifically filter *.ZIP (i.e. take it out of your filter
list), Antigen will ignore ZIPs.

I send ZIPs with various included file types back and forth with clients
very frequently.

-Original Message-
From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deperate--Still


How did you do that? I can't get it to ignore zipfiles :(


> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: donderdag 6 december 2001 17:48
> Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Onderwerp: RE: Deperate--Still
> 
> 
> we use Antigen & we can ignore things inside zip files  
> ::confused:
> 
> -Michèle
> Immigration site:  
> The Miata:  
> Tiggercam:  
> -
> Kaden thought of the old Klingon proverb: Fool me once, shame 
> on you: fool
> me twice, prepare to die. 
> -
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 6:49 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Deperate--Still
> 
> 
> Then why can Antigen be installed on our testserver and scanmail does
> not?
> According to scanmail, the core cannot be installed on that 
> system, even
> tho win2k + Ex2k are installed and working just fine.
> One thing i miss in Antigen is the ability to ignore zipfiles that
> contain filtered extensions, i WANT to be able to 
> send/receive zipfiles
> with .exe's in em. and so do some of our customers (who 
> weren't all
> that excited this morning after i installed Antigen on our server last
> night, one of their clients regularly send zipfiles with 
> .exe's in them
> hehe)
> 
> But for the rest i do love Antigen.
> 
>  wonder why Scanmail won't install tho  any ideas?
> 
> Bob
> 
> All your beer are belong to us!
> 
> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> > Van: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Verzonden: woensdag 5 december 2001 21:38
> > Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Onderwerp: RE: Deperate--Still
> > 
> > 
> > Or Scanmail. Either should do the job just fine
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:31 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Deperate--Still
> > 
> > 
> > www.sybari.com has their Antigen product which uninstalls 
> > very cleanly (from
> > experience) should you not choose to run with it.
> > 
> > William
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:31 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: Deperate--Still
> > 
> > 
> > Sorry for the last post.
> > 
> > My brain is not working at full capacity--I have been at this 
> > all day. 
> > the post should have read--I am seeking a trial version of an 
> > AV mailserver
> > product.  I am running Exchange 5.5/SP4 on an NT server 
> > running 4.0/SP6.
> > So, I need to get AV on the server which has none.  A full 
> > trial verion
> > would be nice to start with.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > JRiley
> > 
> > List Charter and FAQ at:
> > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
> > 
> > List Charter and FAQ at:
> > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
> > 
> > 
> 
> List Charter and FAQ at:
> http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
> 
> List Charter and FAQ at:
> http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
> 
> 

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RE: Deperate--Still

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Go directly to www.sybari.com and get their 30Day trial of Antigen.

Then buy it because you'll love it.

-Original Message-
From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Deperate--Still


Sorry for the last post.

My brain is not working at full capacity--I have been at this all day. 
the post should have read--I am seeking a trial version of an AV
mailserver product.  I am running Exchange 5.5/SP4 on an NT server
running
4.0/SP6.  So, I need to get AV on the server which has none.  A full
trial
verion would be nice to start with.

Thanks,

JRiley

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RE: NoHTML

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Never heard of it before but if it does what it says it does (and
doesn't crash and burn), then I LIKE IT! That could stop some
potentially nasty problems cold.

Let us know what you find.

I'm going to have a look at it too..

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: NoHTML


Has anyone used this product, yet? (Yes, I will be trying it)
http://ntbugtraq.ntadvice.com/default.asp?sid=1&pid=55&did=38

"NoHTML.dll is an Outlook Add-in designed to convert HTML-based emails
into
harmless messages. It works slightly differently for Outlook 2000 than
it
does for Outlook 2002. Does not work with Outlook 98, or any version of
Outlook Express."

Looking for successes, of course.

Regards,

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP

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RE: *** Warning *** New Virus - W32.goner.a@mm

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Since you are using Antigen, are you not filtering off dangerous
attachments anyway??

If you are filtering properly, you were covered w/o today's updates
anyway.

-Original Message-
From: Briggs, Bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 4:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: *** Warning *** New Virus - W32.goner.a@mm


Depends on when you have Antigen set up to check for an automatic update
and
which anti-virus engines you are running.
We were lucky and got an automatic update which covered us about 15
minutes
before we started getting hit.

Bruce


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RE: ***Antigen***

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

get it at www.sybari.com  .
 
Best Exchange A/V product on the market (IMHO).
 
It only works on your exchange server, so you still need something for
desktop A/V.

-Original Message-
From: Todd White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: ***Antigen***


what is this?  Where can I get it?  How much does it cost?  Can you run
this with other software virus protection?  If so why would you want to?

Todd White 
System Administrator 
LaserComm Inc. 
972-941-0276 Voice 
972-941-0223 Fax 

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RE: *** Warning *** New Virus - W32.goner.a@mm

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

>>I am moving to Antigen, that's for sure.<<

A wise move indeed!

-Original Message-
From: Dimitri Limanovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 1:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: *** Warning *** New Virus - W32.goner.a@mm


I am so PISSED OFF!!
Our POS GroupShield after an update to 4172 DATs simply lost "SCR" from
the
list of blocked extensions!!!
WTF?!?! And of course some dumb-ass user got an email infected with
W32/Goner and opened it!
I got it under control now by adding SCR back in and initiating full IS
scan.. So far only one infected message that was succesfully cleaned..
But still, WTF is up with GroupShield?! I am moving to Antigen, that's
for
sure.

Sorry for this rant



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RE: RE: Wondering

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

I think it's time I tested my bulk e-mailer program. Maybe I'll add this
peckerhead's address to the target database a few thousand times.
 
Yeah - that's the ticket!
-Original Message-
From: Bob Beatty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RE: Wondering


Unsubscribe me - shit, fuck, damn you, kiss my ass, go fuck yourself,
whatever it takes,  please unsubscribe me.
 
Thanks

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RE: Importing .OST file to another mailbox...

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Yep. Been there. What a pain.
 
Basically your OST is encrypted (whether you specify it to be or not)
and it is linked to a key that travels with your NT account. 
 
No Account = No OST.
 
Go to www.officerecovery.com  . They have
the converter. If what is in the OST is worth the price, their converter
will work. They have a demo that will pull all the header info from an
OST into a pst - the demo does not pull the msg body though.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 12:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Importing .OST file to another mailbox...


Yea, Your screwed.
There is an OST to PST converter. I think it is around $400.
 
People here will tell you to try about a dozen things, but none will
work.

-Original Message-
From: Dan Phan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Importing .OST file to another mailbox...


Hi everyone,

I have a question about how to import mail files, specifically .ost
files ! 

I have an .ost file from an existing NT account created earlier say
"james" and the "james" as the name of this mailbox.  Now the guy is
gone and I had deleted this account.  But now we have decided to
recreate his account because we want to redirect his mail to someone
else.  I am able to recreate the account and mailbox without any
problems but I need to see his previous mail that is stored from the
.ost file!  Is there a way I can import/merger from Outlook client or
from the Exchange server to get his existing .ost file into this newly
created mailbox?

When I set the .ost to the path of the old mailbox it says that it isn't
the right mailbox so it can't be used!

Thanks in advance of any help you can provide.

Dan

 
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RE: ? re: Antigen's free trial

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

I think I'd call the folks at Sybari and ask them. I'm sure they'll be
happy to help a prospective customer.

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: ? re: Antigen's free trial


I'm not TOTALLY hijacking this thread, as my question is relative to it,
but
I did change the name!

I am 99% sure I am going with Antigen ASAP.  I have approval for the
funds,
but I want to install the demo before I commit to something I have no
touched myself.  We currently use GroupSucks.  Suffice it to say, I
don't
care for it.  My question to you wise folks is this.  How should I
conduct
my test?  Can I install Antigen with GS still installed, and then just
stop
all GS services to test?  Or should I completely remove GS before I
proceed?

I humbly await your guidance,

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Mark L. Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange


I use Antigen, but I have heard that ScanMail is also a very good
product.  You will not go wrong purchasing either one.  I would try both
and see which one you like the best.
 
I know that Antigen has a free trial download that will uninstall from
the Exchange server very clean, so give it a try.  Not sure about Trend.
 
Mark

-Original Message-
From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 2:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange



I just read all the posts in this thread and noticed that no one
mentioned Trend Micro ScanMail.  When I posted the question of what
anti-virus software to use with Exchange, most everyone said ScanMail.
It is even in the Swynk FAQ last I read it.  Now everyone says Antigen?
Should I be switching after my year is up with ScanMail or what?

 -Original Message- 
From:   Ellery July [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ] 
Sent:   Monday, November 26, 2001 8:22 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject:RE: Anti-virus software for Exchange 

antigen is great - when set up properly (which is very easy to do) you
are 
at least 99.%
protected. 

While others are being hit by varies virus you will be protected. Whiles

others are waiting for updates you will be protected. Your exchange
server 
will be up and on while others have taken theirs off line. 

ellery 

-Original Message- 
From: Tony Flannery [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 7:42 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Anti-virus software for Exchange 


Hi, 

Has anybody got any opinions/recommendations on anti-virus software for 
Exchange 5.5 ?  I've come across MailMarshal, Antigen, and GFI 
MailEssentials, but they all seem quite expensive. 

Thanks for any input. 

Tony. 

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RE: Information Store memory utilization is out of control

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Groupshield has been known to cause STORE.EXE to do exactly what you are
describing. I'm wondering if there were occaisions where a lousy DAT
file would cause that.

Check NAI's site. 

-Original Message-
From: Brian Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Information Store memory utilization is out of control


Groupsheild is in use and we haven't had any issues...have you
experienced
many problems?

Thanks,

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Information Store memory utilization is out of control


It shouldn't use so much that it will kill the server, but what you read
is
wrong.  Don't limit the amount of RAM used via Optimizer.  That is
band-aiding the real problem.  Store.exe will use ALL available memory
if it
can and needs it.  My server has 1gb of mem and Store.exe is humming
happily
along using about 620mb worth of it.  Are you running Gropeshield (I
mean
Groupshield) on your server?  I'm pretty sure there was a advertised
problem.  How's your CPU usage?  High as well?  Let us know.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Geoff Waycik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Information Store memory utilization is out of control

But so much that it kills the server?  I read Q182505 and from this it
looks
like Exchange server will use TotalRAM/4, so in the case of the server
witn
512M, Exchange will use up to 128M.  Am I miss-reading something there?
I
have not used perfomrance optimizer yet, but will.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Information Store memory utilization is out of control


This is common.  STORE.EXE will use all available memory unless manually
limited in the Optimizer.

-Original Message-
From: Geoff Waycik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Information Store memory utilization is out of control


I look after two servers for clients with Exchange Server 5.5 SP4
installed.
Recently, one of the server's STORE.EXE process (lets call it SERVER1)
started going out of control with respect to memory utilization.  It
starts
at a reasonable 5M to 10M of memory used, then gradually climbs to about
300M.  If I stop and restart the IS service, 400M to 500M of memory will
clear up and STORE.EXE will drop down to it's usual 5M to 10M.  If I
don't
stop and restart, the server starts to crumble, complaining about
running
out of memory.

Software Installed on both Servers Are:
Microsoft Small Business Server 4.5
Inoculan for Small Business Server (i was young and foolish)
ArcServe for Small Business Server (ditto)
Latest Service Packs and hotfixes for OS
SP4 for Exchange, no hotfixes
Memory for SERVER1 = 512M
Memory for SERVER2 = 384M

The one thing they have done recently is to upgrade their Internet
service
to DSL.  SERVER1 network was upgraded first and almost immediately they
began having this problem.  The other server's network was upgraded last
week but am not sure that the memory problem exactly coincided with the
upgrade.

Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Geoff Waycik MCSE
Tel: 613 384-4210 Fax: 613 384-8981 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Information Store memory utilization is out of control

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Or figure out where the real problem is. Exchange by itself should not
under any circumstance crash a server unless it is screwed somehow.

I'd immediately look at Ejac-U-Late or ArcServe and see if the problem
is in one of those. Either can cause Exchange to dig itself into a hole.

Has ArcServe been having backup problems/hung backups/etc? All kinds of
neat things can happen when it does. Are you up-to-date on any patches
for it?

Do your users have good desktop A/V that scans corporate email? If so,
can you disable Ejac-U-Late on a restart and see if things stay
functioning? Are you up-to-date on any patches for it?

The change in Networking doesn't seem like a likely culprit to me,
although the timing of the change and the start of problems is
interesting. Is EjacULate doing automatic updates over the internet. Is
it SUCCESSFULLY doing them now?

Anything else interesting/different in your event logs?

-Original Message-
From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Information Store memory utilization is out of control


So then he needs to limit it using the optimizer.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Information Store memory utilization is out of control


True, but he says after a time the memory usage crashes his box, so it
must be going overboard.

-Original Message-
From: Preston Jeffares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Information Store memory utilization is out of control


This is common.  STORE.EXE will use all available memory unless manually
limited in the Optimizer.

-Original Message-
From: Geoff Waycik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Information Store memory utilization is out of control


I look after two servers for clients with Exchange Server 5.5 SP4
installed. Recently, one of the server's STORE.EXE process (lets call it
SERVER1) started going out of control with respect to memory
utilization.  It starts at a reasonable 5M to 10M of memory used, then
gradually climbs to about 300M.  If I stop and restart the IS service,
400M to 500M of memory will clear up and STORE.EXE will drop down to
it's usual 5M to 10M.  If I don't stop and restart, the server starts to
crumble, complaining about running out of memory.

Software Installed on both Servers Are:
Microsoft Small Business Server 4.5
Inoculan for Small Business Server (i was young and foolish) ArcServe
for Small Business Server (ditto) Latest Service Packs and hotfixes for
OS SP4 for Exchange, no hotfixes Memory for SERVER1 = 512M Memory for
SERVER2 = 384M

The one thing they have done recently is to upgrade their Internet
service to DSL.  SERVER1 network was upgraded first and almost
immediately they began having this problem.  The other server's network
was upgraded last week but am not sure that the memory problem exactly
coincided with the upgrade.

Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Geoff Waycik MCSE
Tel: 613 384-4210 Fax: 613 384-8981 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Outlook Licenses with Exchange?

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

You will get as many Outlook licenses as you have licensed Exchange
Clients.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Erwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook Licenses with Exchange?


Hi,
Our company is moving to Exchange and we will be purchasing Exchange
2000
cals. I read somewhere (I think on this list) that you get Outlook
licenses
when you by Exchange. Is this accurate? Can someone elaborate? We have a
number of clients who need email but don't have Office.

Scott Erwin
Network Administrator
Neptune Chemical Pump Co
http://www.neptune1.com


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RE: Moving to Antigen

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

A wise move. Very wise move.
 
How's that for kind words.
 
Just install Antigen and you'll finally realize that AV software doesn't
have to suck.
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 3:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving to Antigen


Has anyone had any experience moving from Groupshield to Antigen? Tips,
traps - kind words.
 
NT 4 SP 6a
Ex 5.5 SP 4+
 
Thanks.
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
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RE: MS new licensing plan Oct 1st?

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Both.
 
You have choices. Make the choices and stand by your decisions.
 
You don't like MS products or the way they do business? Then use
something else and quit whining. 
 
There are plenty of choices. They may not be as user-friendly or capable
as MS products, but if you don't want to pay for the MS products, don't.

 
 -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS new licensing plan Oct 1st?



which fact isn't in evidence?  That you love MS or that they are
extorting us. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS new licensing plan Oct 1st?


Objection!  Assumes facts not in evidence!
 
-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
  
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
  
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk   
- 
"Catch your dreams before they slip away." -The Rolling Stones, "Ruby
Tuesday" 
- 

-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS new licensing plan Oct 1st?


What?  You love MS?  Are you happy about their new software extortion
plan?
 
Bob
starting to think about alternatives.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS new licensing plan Oct 1st?


please don't say "Micro$oft"
 
-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
  
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
  
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk   
- 
"Our bombs are smarter than the average high school student. At least
they can find Kuwait." ~ A. Whitney Brown 
- 

-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS new licensing plan Oct 1st?


Ray,
 
That's what I'm getting at - are most shops buying into Micro$oft's
upgrade protection program?
 
- Bob

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS new licensing plan Oct 1st?



Well, in one of our more clever moves, we partially bought into the
upgrade plan for SQL. 

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Peitzke [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:36 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: MS new licensing plan Oct 1st? 


Folks, 

Thanks for the responses, but what I really want to know is not when the
new 
plan goes into effect (though that was helpful), but what your shop's 
response is/will be.  Are you planning to buy the Upgrade Advantage for
your 
BackOffice products? 

Bob Peitzke 

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From: Simon Curtiss [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 8:23 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: MS new licensing plan Oct 1st? 


There is an exception to the rule (well maybe not an exception, but I
can't 
think of the right word) and that is that the Backoffice CAL will no
longer 
be available after October 1st and you will need to  get CAL 'Core'
packs 
which I believe will be more expensive.  Backoffice CAL's were the
cheapest 
way to get EX, SQL & NT Cals together. 

Simon 

> -Original Message- 
> From: Sean Martin [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2001 12:26 p.m. 
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: MS new licensing plan Oct 1st? 
> 
> 
> Of course I do 
> http://www.computerworld.com/cwi/story/0,1199,NAV47_STO61803,00.html
  
> 
> Regards, 
>  
> Sean Martin, MCSE 
> Network Administrator 
> Ribelin Lowell & Company 
> Insurance Brokers, Inc. 
> 3111 C Street, Suite 300 
> Anchorage, Alaska 99503 
> Ph: (907) 561-1250 
> Fax: (907) 561-4315 
> Cell: (907) 229-0885 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> < mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Lefkovics, William [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 4:15 PM 
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
> Subject: RE: MS new licensing plan Oct 1st? 
> 
> 
> Does someone have an URL confirmi

RE: CDW

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

I agree on everything except the brand. 
 
When servers are involved, I don't want to have to sort out which vendor
is telling me the truth when sh*t happens and the fingers start
pointing. Buying a solid name brand single vendor server is worth the
extra $$ in my time and my peace of mind, not to mention company
downtime.
 
I was solidly a Compaq server kinda guy until the last couple of years.
Compaq has been going downhill in support and overall reliability. I'm
much more likely to go for a Dell these days.
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: CDW


I've bought name brand and off brand and had good/ bad experiences on
both. One office right now has a Gateway 2000 PC as it's server (only 5
people so there's not much load) but it has hardware problems. The only
way I can resolve is to call Adaptec on the controllers, Seagate on the
drives, Kingston on the RAM and GW2K on the motherboard. My point is
this, with Compaq or whomever, you call Compaq for all the hardware
issues and they replace with very little hassle. If you piece meal a
server from another company or yourself, you now own the component
warranty and it's a pain in the A$$.
 
Now from what I have heard, GWK sells a server and there are a million
small shops selling servers - will they be here in 1 year when the
market continues to spiral down. What utilities and installation
software routines do they accompany with the products? I stick with
Compaq on the server as they are simply the best.
 
My experience, my $.02.
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
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  240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original Message-
From: Michael Belli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: CDW
 
There are a lot better faster and cheaper servers around that don't have
a name brand. We used to shop around until we found a dealer that did
white boxes. These are genuine Intel Boxes that cost a hell of a lot
less. My last server we got 2 weeks ago was a 4U box with quad Xeon
700's with an external DPT array holding 7 36GB harddrives and 4 Gigs of
memory. It is a beast of a box that cost us around 16K.  I know for a
fact I could get the same specs for the Compaq you ordered for around
6-7k easy. If anyone wants a contact please feel free to email me.
-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 4:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT: CDW
Sorry for the OT post, but I'd like hear the general consensus about
CDW. Are they fairly priced? Adequate customer service? Prompt
shipments? etc. etc.
 
What's everyone's experiences with them? I've never purchased from CDW
before but a recent quote on a new exchange server is the best I've seen
yet.
 
 
Regards,
 
Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell & Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
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RE: OST file recovery

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

I think they offer a service to dump individual OSTs to PSTs on a per
mailbox basis. IIRC it still was about $100/mailbox. You may want to
contact them about that.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 11:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OST file recovery



Just finished running the demo against the lost OST file.  What a
cracking piece of software.  Now if it can do I so can I if I can find
the technical document that tells how to replace the key.

The demo has however given me the ability to view the content of the OST
file but not the content of each mail.  Guess that's what they want $500
for.  But at least I can see what it is I don't have.

Thanks 

Nick Garland 

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From:   Bill Kuhn - MCSE [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
Sent:   14 August 2001 16:21 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject:RE: OST file recovery 

One option is to go to www.officerecovery.com 
< http://www.officerecovery.com <http://www.officerecovery.com> >  -
they have a tool (and maybe a 
service) to recover orphaned OST files. The tool isn't cheap. IIRC the 
service per mailbox was a little more wallet-friendly. 
  

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From: Nick Garland [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:53 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: OST file recovery 



Hello all 

I have a user who has a lot of unique mail contained in his OST file on 
his laptop.  He has just connected against instructions to the new 
exchange mail server.  His OST file key has been replaced by the new 
server and his OST file in now not accessible. 

Q163589 states that 'Microsoft Exchange replaces this key with a new 
value from the mailbox that was created. At this point, you cannot 
access the data that was contained in the OST created against the first 
mailbox.' 

I seem to remember however seeing an article somewhere that gave a 
method of replacing the key or hacking something or other that would 
enable the contents of the OST file to be accessed so that I could 
export them to PST and then into the new exchange server. 

Do any of you guys know how to recover an OST with a replaced ID key? 

Thanks in advance 

Nick Garland 

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RE: OST file recovery

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

One option is to go to www.officerecovery.com
  - they have a tool (and maybe a
service) to recover orphaned OST files. The tool isn't cheap. IIRC the
service per mailbox was a little more wallet-friendly.
 

-Original Message-
From: Nick Garland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OST file recovery



Hello all

I have a user who has a lot of unique mail contained in his OST file on
his laptop.  He has just connected against instructions to the new
exchange mail server.  His OST file key has been replaced by the new
server and his OST file in now not accessible.

Q163589 states that 'Microsoft Exchange replaces this key with a new
value from the mailbox that was created. At this point, you cannot
access the data that was contained in the OST created against the first
mailbox.'

I seem to remember however seeing an article somewhere that gave a
method of replacing the key or hacking something or other that would
enable the contents of the OST file to be accessed so that I could
export them to PST and then into the new exchange server.

Do any of you guys know how to recover an OST with a replaced ID key?

Thanks in advance

Nick Garland

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