RE: How could .pif file get through....
As are NAI products generally. Anybody else see their WebShield product completely ignore BadTrans recently? > -Original Message- > From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange and Bar > Code Admn. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 11 December 2001 13:43 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: How could .pif file get through > > > Not familiar with Group shield, but if it's MAPI based, MAPI based AV > products are notorious for letting messages slip by. > > mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards), > Steve Ropiak > ZF Group NAO > CERT, Exchange and Bar Code Administrator > (207) 989-9115 voice > (207) 989-8722 fax > (513) 317-0197 cell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: Craig Cameron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:00 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: How could .pif file get through > > > > We blocked the usual set of attachments in Groupshield for > Exchange 5.5 some > months ago. Including .pif > > Yet this morning I received an e-mail with a .pif attachement? > > Anyone had this problem? > > > Craig > -- > -- > > This E-Mail is confidential and is intended for the addressee > only. If you > are not the intended recipient, you must not /par disclose or use the > information contained in it. If you received this e-Mail in > error, please > contact the sender /par immediately and delete the document. > This e-Mail is > for information purposes only and is not intended to be > relied upon /par or > used as a substitute for the medical advice of physicians. > Specific advice > should always be sought on any individual /par matter, in > particular matters > relating to the addressee's health and any symptoms that may require > diagnosis or medical /par attention. /par > -- > -- > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: How could .pif file get through....
Talk to you NAI ESAM, they'll either point you to the download or send you it. > -Original Message- > From: Crosby, Tim (Sarcom) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 11 December 2001 14:05 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: How could .pif file get through > > > can someone remind me again where to get hotfix7? > > -Original Message- > From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:40 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: How could .pif file get through > > > Make sure you either have hotfix7 or you have selected the > radio button for > file or extension filtering. > > Steve Clark > Clark Systems Support, LLC > AVIEN Charter Member > "Who's watching your network?" > www.clarksupport.com > 301-610-9584 voice > 240-465-0323 Efax > > The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark > Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged > information and > shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others > without the prior > written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. > > > -Original Message- > From: Craig Cameron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:00 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: How could .pif file get through > > > We blocked the usual set of attachments in Groupshield for > Exchange 5.5 some > months ago. Including .pif > > Yet this morning I received an e-mail with a .pif attachement? > > Anyone had this problem? > > > Craig > -- > -- > > This E-Mail is confidential and is intended for the addressee > only. If you > are not the intended recipient, you must not /par disclose or use the > information contained in it. If you received this e-Mail in > error, please > contact the sender /par immediately and delete the document. > This e-Mail is > for information purposes only and is not intended to be > relied upon /par or > used as a substitute for the medical advice of physicians. > Specific advice > should always be sought on any individual /par matter, in > particular matters > relating to the addressee's health and any symptoms that may require > diagnosis or medical /par attention. /par > -- > -- > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Errors uninstalling Groupshield 4.5
Title: Message
I see
NAI haven't improved the uninstall procedure for Groupshield between 4.0 and 4.5
then. Oh joy.
Not
wishing to put a damper on things, but in the past I've built a new Exchange
server into a site and moved the users to it rather than trying to remove
GroupShield. It's easier that way, trust me. I don't think a server is ever
quite the same again once that software has been installed.
:(
-Original Message-From: Andrew Toon
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2001
17:50To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesCc:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Errors uninstalling Groupshield
4.5
The manual removal shown below is
from NAI knowledge base.
Uninstalling Groupshield Exchange 4.5
Open Exchange Administrator in RAW mode(admin.exe /r )
From the Configuration Level, expand Add-Ins
Delete all Network Associates Add-ins (there will be between 1
and 5)
Expand the Sever container within Exchange Administrator
Highlight the Exchange Server name
Delete the Network Associates Groupshield Exchange object
Delete the Network Associates Hidden recipient.4.5 -
Groupshield Exchange (servername) - Highlight the Recipients container for
yoursite. Choose 'Hidden Recipients' from the View menu. Delete
the "Groupshield Exchange (servername) recipient"
Verify that the "Groupshield Exchange (servername)" objects
are not present
Exit Exchange Administrator
Open Regedit 32 (regedt32.exe) and remove the following
registry keys (if they exist):Notes that "Legacy Keys" will require a
permission changeHKLM\SOFTWARE\Network
AssociatesHKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Exchange\Client\Extensions\GroupShield
Exchange Client Extensions (Do not remove if Netshield is installed on
the Exchange
server)HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{C1DB3DA9-E0AB-4083-9140-8A244A264D0D}HKLM\SOFTWARE\McAfee\McALSNMP
(Do not remove if Netshield is installed on the Exchange
server)(Do not remove if Netshield is installed on the
Exchange
server)HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SNMP\Parameters\Extension
Agents\McALSNMPHKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\AlertManager
(Do not remove if Netshield is installed on the Exchange
server)HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\AVExch32ServiceHKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\AVUPDServiceHKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Network
Associates Log ServiceHKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Outbreak
ManagerHKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ALERTMANAGER
(Do not remove if Netshield is installed on the Exchange
server)HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_AVEXCH32SERVICEHKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_AVUPDSERVICEHKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_NETWORK
ASSOCIATES LOG
SERVICEHKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY_OUTBREAK
MANAGERHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\AlertManager (Do not
remove if Netshield is installed on the Exchange
server)HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\AVExch32ServiceHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\AVUPDServiceHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Network
Associates Log ServiceHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Outbreak
ManagerHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ALERTMANAGER (Do
not remove if Netshield is installed on the Exchange
server)HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_AVEXCH32SERVICEHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_AVUPDSERVICEHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_NETWORK
ASSOCIATES LOG
SERVICEHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_OUTBREAK
MANAGERHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Services\AlertManager (Do not
remove if Netshield is installed on the Exchange
server)HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Services\AVExch32ServiceHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Services\AVUPDServiceHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Services\Network
Associates Log ServiceHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Services\Outbreak
ManagerHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ALERTMANAGER
(Do not remove if Netshield is installed on the Exchange
server)HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Enum\Root\LEGACY_AVEXCH32SERVICEHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Enum\Root\LEGACY_AVUPDSERVICEHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Enum\Root\LEGACY_NETWORK
ASSOCIATES LOG
SERVICEHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Enum\Root\LEGACY_OUTBREAK
MANAGERHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Services\AlertManager (Do not
remove if Netshield is installed on the Exchange
server)HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Services\AVExch32ServiceHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Services\AVUPDServiceHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Services\Network
Associates Log ServiceHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Services\Outbreak
ManagerHKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Enum\Root\LEGACY_ALERTMANAGER
(Do not remove if Netshield is installed on the Exchange server)
HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlS
RE: Errors uninstalling Groupshield 4.5
Title: Message Unfortunately, the MS install cleaner only deals with MSI packages, and while regedit will (with time, patience and a little bit of luck) get rid of all the registry entries, it won't fix the damage (if I was being kind, I might say "changes") to the Exchange databases that GroupShield makes. Just for starters - the changes and updates to your organization forms library, the changes to the object types of scanned items, and the GroupShield admin mailbox will not get cleared out properly. Even my "add a new server and move people to it" method doesn't do the whole job, you've still got NAI junk in your forms library. The safest thing is not to install it in the first place, of course. And if you have to evaluate it, NEVER EVER do it on a production server. That's strictly something to do on an isolated test box. -Original Message-From: Neil Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 December 2001 09:43To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Errors uninstalling Groupshield 4.5 Steve I've had the same issues. You can download an installer cleaner from Microsoft - can't remember the link off hand though it was easy to find. If that fails (like it did with me) then its regedit time - remove every reference to Mcafee and reboot. Groupshield's uninstall is pretty much useless. The permissions problem you've had I experienced as well. You need to use Q261092 as a reference and adapt it accordingly Hope this helps Neil List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: How could .pif file get through....
The default list GroupShield uses is pretty comprehensive, IMHO. Possibly even TOO cautious... > -Original Message- > From: TIM CARFREY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 12 December 2001 19:08 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: How could .pif file get through > > > We also use GroupShield. IS there a list of attachments and file names > that should be block? I am looking for a good list. > > > Yes. Fortunately Groupshield caught them. But Mcaffee > claimed that if = > > I > > installed MR-1a the problem would go away. Until them I am > blocking = > > .pif, > > .scr and .exe among others. Had over 7000 hits with the W32/Goner = > > virus and > > not one got thru. > > > > Larry Kent > > Network Administrator > > SBCCOM-Natick > > Natick, MA 01760 > > DSN 256-4981 Comm: (508) 233-4981 > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Martin Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:10 AM > > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: How could .pif file get through > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > As are NAI products generally. > > >=20 > > > Anybody else see their WebShield product completely > ignore BadTrans > > > recently? > > >=20 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Transaction Logs
It all depends on how busy the server is. Are those 2000 users sending five messages each a day or five hundred? I have 9Gb for logs on a server with 200 users. Most space I've seen used up was around 1Gb, which built up over three days when the tape drive was broken so we ran no backup. Scaling that up, you'd have been over 9Gb in a similar situation. If I was building a new server today, with disk prices the way they are, I'd probably spec a mirrored pair of 18Gb drives for logs (or even more... can you ever have too much disk space?). > -Original Message- > From: Brad Anstett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 15 December 2001 18:42 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Transaction Logs > > > I'm installing a new server and would like some guidelines on > how big the > disk for the logs would be. I don't want circular logging. The > organization is about 2000 users. Is 9GB big enough? > > Thanks > Brad > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Employee Departures
Title: Message I try for 30 minutes. Export their mailbox to a PST as soon as they are out the door, then delete it. -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 22:54To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures 30 days. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Employee Departures What is your general policy for the time between a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the company. William L. Smith Systems Administrator List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Employee Departures
Title: Message That's exactly how I used to handle it. However, getting supervisors to deal with the cleanup was always a problem. So we export to a PST, and copy that PST to the supervisors personal share where it occupies part of their fileshare quota. Extension to quota? Hahahahahaha!!! -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 22:59To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures Employee leaves. Mailbox access is granted to supervisor. After 30 days mailbox is either: 1) deleted 2) balance archived to .pst SMTP alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for stray emails. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures 30 days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it away. I'd love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like that. W -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures 30 days. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Employee Departures What is your general policy for the time between a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the company. William L. Smith Systems Administrator List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Employee Departures
Title: Message I don't. They left. Why should their email still be deliverable? I appreciate that this model would not work for a lot of companies - probably most of them, in fact. The way we work with our customers though, it works well for us. -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 23:22To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures How do you handle inbound residual email to that SMTP address? William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Martin Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures That's exactly how I used to handle it. However, getting supervisors to deal with the cleanup was always a problem. So we export to a PST, and copy that PST to the supervisors personal share where it occupies part of their fileshare quota. Extension to quota? Hahahahahaha!!! -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 22:59To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures Employee leaves. Mailbox access is granted to supervisor. After 30 days mailbox is either: 1) deleted 2) balance archived to .pst SMTP alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for stray emails. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures 30 days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it away. I'd love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like that. W -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures 30 days. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Employee Departures What is your general policy for the time between a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the company. William L. Smith Systems Administrator List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Employee Departures
Title: Message I don't look at them personally, but I make sure my helpdesk staff do on a regular basis. :) I'll have to add that perfmon counter to my monitoring box. Thanks for the tip. -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 23:41To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures Oh, and we get all the NDR's to an admin mailbox. Given the efficiency with which you dispose of old mailboxes, I suspect you do not look at NDR's perhaps -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:38 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures I was just curious. We have some employees that get tonnes of email (there is a new perfmon counter MSExchangeIMS_EmailMass). You don't even do the DL black hole thing? William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Martin Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:37 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures I don't. They left. Why should their email still be deliverable? I appreciate that this model would not work for a lot of companies - probably most of them, in fact. The way we work with our customers though, it works well for us. -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 23:22To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures How do you handle inbound residual email to that SMTP address? William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message-From: Martin Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures That's exactly how I used to handle it. However, getting supervisors to deal with the cleanup was always a problem. So we export to a PST, and copy that PST to the supervisors personal share where it occupies part of their fileshare quota. Extension to quota? Hahahahahaha!!! -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 22:59To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures Employee leaves. Mailbox access is granted to supervisor. After 30 days mailbox is either: 1) deleted 2) balance archived to .pst SMTP alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for stray emails. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures 30 days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it away. I'd love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like that. W -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures 30 days. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Employee Departures What is your general policy for the time between a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have l
RE: Anit-Virus Software for Exchange
I refuse to belive that even CA could make a product worse than GroupShield. :) (Oh, and Hi Kelly!) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 20 December 2001 20:27 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Anit-Virus Software for Exchange > > > > Antigen and Trend are the best... Any CA product is usually > the worst, and > there are quite a few that are not at all fond of Groupshield either. > ~ > -K.Borndale > Network Administrator > Sybari Software > 631.630.8569 -direct dial > 631.439.0689 -fax > http://www.sybari.com > "One man's ceiling is another man's floor" > > > |+-> > || "liz thompson" | > || || .cc.md.us> | > || | > || 12/20/2001 | > || 02:30 PM | > || Please respond | > || to "MS-Exchange| > || Admin Issues" | > || | > |+-> > > >- > -- > ---| > | > > | > | To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | > | cc: > > | > | Subject: Anit-Virus Software for Exchange > > | > > >- > -- > ---| > > > > > We are currently using Norton Anti-Virus for Exchange which > oldly enough > has been working fairly well. My boss, for cost reasons, > wishes to examine > Alternatives. > > Can you guys recommend some products? and Which products > sould I try to > tell him "no way, if you want it to work!" on? > > So far we have looked at F-Secure. Any other thoughts? > > > Thanks For your comments!!! > > Liz > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Anit-Virus Software for Exchange
HOWEVER... If you do decide to try GroupShield from Network Associates, do NOT, repeat NOT, test it out on a server you care about. Do it on a test server that you build just for the purpose, on a separate network and in a separate Exchange organisation from your production environment. If you can arrange to do it on a separate continent (or better still another planet), that would be even better. ;) Seriously... having looked at several products, GroupShield is the only one that causes lasting damage. You'll spend weeks trying to rid your organisation of it's left-overs (changes to your organisation forms library, just for example) if you try to uninstall it. GroupShield sucks. It's terrible. It is truly awful software. Frankly, it makes Lotus Notes/Domino look like a pretty good piece of code in comparison (one of these days I'll get around to writing up my "Why Notes/Domino Sucks" web site, but I'll need to find an ISP that gives me more than my current 100Mb of web space first to be sure I can fit it all in... ). My personal favourite Exchange AntiVirus product is ScanMail. ScanMail is cool. It's completely reliable. It caused me no problems at all in three years. In THREE YEARS (yes, that's thirty-six months), I didn't have any reason to call for support - not once. It just installed, worked well, and caused me no problems. I've heard similar reports about Sybari's Antigen, though I've never tried it myself. I deployed ScanMail to eleven servers spread across a slow WAN and eleven separate countries in just under eleven minutes. It took me four days and approximately twenty calls to NAI "support" to get GroupShield just to install on one Exchange server (OK, the first ten installs were quite smooth, but FOUR DAYS to solve an installation issue on the last one??? Go figure...). I used GroupShield years ago. It sucked then. I was forced to switch from ScanMail back to GroupShield recently against my better judgement (Enterprise licensing deal... I couldn't persuade the pointies that the "free" software thrown in with the big desktop AV software deal was worth exactly what they were paying for it). In the six weeks since then, I have had at least DAILY dealings with NAI "support". And every day, I find a new reason to wish I was still using ScanMail. > -Original Message- > From: Scott Schnoll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 22 December 2001 19:16 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Anit-Virus Software for Exchange > > > RE: Anit-Virus Software for ExchangeI vote for Trend Micro's > ScanMail. But > they all have eval versions, so try them all out and decide > for yourself > which one you like best. > > -Scott > > - Original Message - > From: Micciche, Robert > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:50 AM > Subject: RE: Anit-Virus Software for Exchange > > > As usual: > A-N-T-I-G-E-N > http://www.sybari.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: liz thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:31 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Anit-Virus Software for Exchange > > > We are currently using Norton Anti-Virus for Exchange which > oldly enough > has been working fairly well. My boss, for cost reasons, > wishes to examine > Alternatives. > Can you guys recommend some products? and Which products > sould I try to > tell him "no way, if you want it to work!" on? > So far we have looked at F-Secure. Any other thoughts? > > > Thanks For your comments!!! > Liz > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server
Title: Message The TweakXP utility (see www.tweakxp.com) has a feature to block/unblock attachment types in Outlook 2002. -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 December 2001 17:12To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server "Security" feature of Outlook XP (2002). Try Q290497 for a reg hack to allow certain attachments. -Original Message-From: Eric Wittenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:53 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server I have now tried using Outlook 97 from a old computer at home and it was able to get all of the attachments. Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer Services Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL www.3dcomp.com -Original Message-From: Eric Wittenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:00 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server Internal originated e-mail is affected also. Only Outlook Express so far. Groupshield for Exchange Server. Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer Services Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL www.3dcomp.com -Original Message-From: Adams, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server Anyone using Outlook XP ir is it only outlook esperss? Antivirus sft on the exchange server(groupshield(mcafee) or nav for exchange(check blocking) Is this only happing to incomming email from the internet or internal also? (Check SMTP scanner for blocking) Thank You,Shawn AdamsEnterprise Network AdministratorProvena Health Care-Information Systems815-730-2832[EMAIL PROTECTED]Important Confidentiality Notice:This message and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this message or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and deleting this copy from your system. Thank you. -Original Message-From: Eric Wittenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:07 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server I have set logging to maximum and there are no errors. Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer Services Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL www.3dcomp.com -Original Message-From: Milton R. Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:55 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server Any AV software on the server? odd settings on the Client end? Firewall? event log entrees? this sounds like a very hard to track down error. -- Dr. Milton R. Dogg Of the Dogg Foundation -Original Message-From: Eric Wittenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:35 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server Windows 2000 sp2 Exchange 5.5 sp4 Late last week I moved the last of my mail users from an older Alpha NT 4 box onto the new Windows 2000 server and removed the Alpha from the site. These last users are the only users that connect thru POP3 access, and with the move to the new server they can no longer receive emails with attachments. As these are remote users I checked the firewall etc., and then tried POP3 access in house using Outlook Express and out of 575 emails with 60 or 70 attachments, I received only 6 attachments. There are no restrictions on these accounts, and the attachments vary in size from 20 bytes on up. Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer Services Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL www.3dcomp.com List Charter and FAQ a
RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange
I can honestly say that Notes/Domino is without too much doubt the most awful software I have ever had to work with. (I say without *too* much doubt because some days I think GroupShield may hold that honour... it depends which I've had to work with most recently). I worked with Notes and Domino every day - both as an administrator and an end-user - for nearly a year. I found new reasons to hate it every single day. Where should I start? The client is unintuitive, slow, and unreliable. Pretty much every single user interface design error known to software designers is demonstrated somewhere in Notes at least once. The administrative tools make the client look quite well organised and well behaved. The server side components leak memory like it was going out of fashion and appear to merely tolerate running on the same box as Windows rather than integrating with the OS in any sensible way. The security model is over-engineered, over-complex, under-functional, and doesn't integrate with anything useful (users hate having to sign in twice, once for Windows, once for Notes, and who can blame them?). Likewise the directory. I could go on for pages and pages on the cons... one day I'll write up the "Alternative Notes FAQ" that I keep threatening to put on the web. The pros? Well... not too many virus writers have noticed Notes, so you can have an easier time there than with Outlook. Alledgedly, Notes is good for workflow and small databases, but I've yet to see anything done with it that couldn't have been achieved much faster, cheaper and more reliably with MS Office integrated with Exchange. It's a niche market. Before it sinks without a trace (which I'll give three, maybe four years) there is probably going to be good money for people with skills looking after it or - better still - the right skills for migrating people off of it onto Exchange. > -Original Message- > From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 08 January 2002 13:17 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > I am very familar with Exchange, but my company currently > uses Domino/Notes > for the client we are doing work for. What (IYHO) are the > pros and cons of > Domino/Notes ? > > TIA- > Dave > > > > _ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange
Last time I did a fresh install, the Notes client spellcheck didn't even recognise "Lotus" until you added it to your custom dictionary!!! :) > -Original Message- > From: Patrick Smallwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 10 January 2002 02:48 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > Last I checked, MS hasn't release a version of Exchange that > runs on Linux > (or do MVP's know MUCH more than the rest of us?). > > SOMEONE would be in big trouble IF I WERE doing any sort of Notes > administration...remember, I just love the Client!! (heck, Notes spell > check doesn't even recognize Linux) Wonder if Outlook does?? > > Pat > > > > > > > "Lefkovics, > > William" To: > "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > trausa.com> Subject: RE: > OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > 01/09/2002 06:35 > > PM > > Please respond to > > "MS-Exchange > > Admin Issues" > > > > > > > > > Busy migrating everything to that one single IBM Linux server in the > corner? > > William > > > -Original Message- > From: Patrick Smallwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 5:23 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT - Domino/Notes Versus Exchange > > > > attend a couple meetings in the afternoon, and look how busy you all > are...That was funny David, "Maybe they are overwhelmed with > their server > to post ;)" LOL > > Pat > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Clustering Exchange
I disagree. You can have fantastic clusters with up to thirty two machines that will give you no trouble at all. Of course, you have to be running OpenVMS, and so far, Exchange doesn't run under that, but hey... > -Original Message- > From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 17 January 2002 17:37 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Clustering Exchange > > > Didn't we just go over this, this morning?? Oh that was on the other > list. There is no good cluster other then the single node. DO > NOT built > a cluster server period. > > Milton R Dogg > Of The Dogg Foundation.. > > -Original Message- > From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:33 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Clustering Exchange > > > My immediate supervisor mentioned that when we finally get > new Exchange > Servers that we should have them clustered. Now I have never > clustered > servers before and wouldn't know how to start, but I just > wanted to get > everyone's opinions on the subject to begin with. How hard > is it to do, > and how is it to maintain. What are the pro's and con's. Any help > would be appreciated. > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > > > > _ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Migration from lotus notes
Which tool are you talking about? I migrated a few hundred users from Notes to Outlook last year, and it was almost completely painless. The users were so grateful they still bring me boxes of chocolates most weeks. :) > -Original Message- > From: Jason Dwyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 20 January 2002 22:48 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Migration from lotus notes > > > Hey guys, > > has anyone had much success using the migration tool to move to > exchange from notes? Any major issues or articles that have > been really > useful? > > Regards, > > Jason Dwyer > > > > List Charter and FAQ at: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm > > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Migration from lotus notes
Ah, I've been that direction too. My company had a short phase of temporary insanity (brought on by listening to the Gartner Group too much) and got part way into migrating from Exchange to Notes. Then came the revolution (really!). As you might expect, there are very few tools for migrating from Exchange to Notes. It's just not a direction reasonable people would choose to go, so that's no surprise. Of the few products that there are, only one works to the point of being useful, though it's still FAR from perfect. That was the product from Binary Tree (www.binarytree.com). It's almost a year since I used it, but at that point, it was still riddled with bugs and unbelievably slow. However, at least it moved the mailboxes across at least mainly intact and at least most of the time, which the other products didn't seem capable of. If I was put in a similar position again, the first thing I'd do is quit. Seriously. However, if you don't want to do that, I would very seriously recommend that you make no attempt to migrate user data. It just isn't worth the time and money and hassle, not just to you, but also to your users. Leave their Exchange data where it is, leave then with read access to it for reference, and start fresh with empty Notes mailboxes. Yes, they'll hate you for it, but then... they're going to hate you anyway for the migration, so what difference does it make? > -Original Message- > From: Dimitri Limanovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 22 January 2002 15:45 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Migration from lotus notes > > > How about migrating from Exchange to Notes? > Our company has been sold (watch f*ckedcompany.com) and the > buyer is using > Lotus Notes. > We will have migrate all our mail to their mail system so I > was wondering if > anyone has had any experience with this. > Wish us luck! > List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Is there any anti-signature software? (icm-computer)
Title: Message Yes, I got those too... I forwarded them to the postmaster address given in the disclaimer asking them to fix it. -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 22 January 2002 13:54To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Is there any anti-signature software? (icm-computer) Well s/he (Szalkiewicz, Toni) sent me the longest and lamest signature twice. They use two sets of rules to do one job. Yes I read it all. Frankly that is the longest I have ever gotten. Two things come to mind. 1. Now I am thinking is there any anti - signature software or procedure? You know like anti-virus with a specific type of file filtering? 2. If I do not want him to get my emails getting to the exchange list - how would I stop that (besides not sending emails)? Lastly, his use of rules and that of someone I worked with last week reinforces to me - my and other exchange admin lack of Outlook knowledge. More questions on the use of outlook should be added to exchange certification process. Beyond the basics, I have no ideal how notes work or even why I would use them. ellery july Technical Lead Northwest Area Foundation 332 Minnesota e-1201 St. Paul, MN 55101 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone - 651-225-3895 fax - 651-225-7695 List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Is there any anti-signature software? (icm-computer)
Title: Message Yes indeed. :) Toni's postmaster has been most helpful in a couple of email exchanges I've had with him, and has disabled OOO replied to the Internet based on the information I provided. Seems Toni's reponse is actually fired by a rule, though... :( -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 22 January 2002 19:33To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Is there any anti-signature software? (icm-computer) Especially some piece of crap one that says "out" -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:32 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Is there any anti-signature software? (icm-computer) Frankly any sig beyond 128 characters is to long especially when it is sent with every email. So if anyone develops a program to cut them I am willing to beta test and if the price is decent I will purchase it. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
