RE: EAS Attachments
Exchange 2010 (SP2 and rollups) Can't speak directly for the Z10 behavior but on my iPhone - With an 11mb video (.3gp) attachment- the message appears and in the message I get a button to click if I want the full message. Ditto with a 7mb txt file. A 10K txt file just comes as an attachment to open. I don't know where the cutoff is for whole attachment vs. option to download. Org->Client Access->Exchange EAS Mailbox Policies->Sync Settings You can configure a Max attachment size in Kb here. Last question I guess it depends if you have many BB's that won't do EAS and so on. I loved mine but the winds of change are slowing blowing them away around here, and for free, I just go with what I'm given. We're supposed to be getting a couple Z10's next week to play with- unless there is some kind of showstopper we don't know about they'll be EAS. Paul From: Alexander Rose [mailto:arose...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: EAS Attachments Hi all, Just had some users call me saying they just got the new BB Z10. Good for them but now they can't activate it because we run BES 5 and we haven't been yet looking at BES10. Only thing i can think of right now to help them out, is to configure EAS on their new BB device. I am trying to find out EAS' behavior in case someone receives a 10MB attachment in an email, do the attachment get downloaded automatically, are there any limits, is it configurable? Moving forward, as RIM has announced full EAS support, is it worthwhile continuing with BES server licenses if your device management needs are very low? Thank you for any comments as always. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: EAS Attachments
If you Google and/or check out the Blackberry support chat areas, there's tons of EAS vs. BES/BIS info. We're standing up a BB 10 server over the next week or so to weigh what will work for us moving forward. We have hundreds of older BBs so we'll have to keep BES around anyway. So far we've setup a few test Z10s using straight EAS, default policy (allowing non-provisionable devices) and they work fine. They are nice devices. Don't have much time invested in one yet as they're not mine, unfortunately. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org<mailto:dgu...@che.org> Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE3109.7550A850] From: pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:pramatow...@mediageneral.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 6:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS Attachments Exchange 2010 (SP2 and rollups) Can't speak directly for the Z10 behavior but on my iPhone - With an 11mb video (.3gp) attachment- the message appears and in the message I get a button to click if I want the full message. Ditto with a 7mb txt file. A 10K txt file just comes as an attachment to open. I don't know where the cutoff is for whole attachment vs. option to download. Org->Client Access->Exchange EAS Mailbox Policies->Sync Settings You can configure a Max attachment size in Kb here. Last question I guess it depends if you have many BB's that won't do EAS and so on. I loved mine but the winds of change are slowing blowing them away around here, and for free, I just go with what I'm given. We're supposed to be getting a couple Z10's next week to play with- unless there is some kind of showstopper we don't know about they'll be EAS. Paul From: Alexander Rose [mailto:arose...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: EAS Attachments Hi all, Just had some users call me saying they just got the new BB Z10. Good for them but now they can't activate it because we run BES 5 and we haven't been yet looking at BES10. Only thing i can think of right now to help them out, is to configure EAS on their new BB device. I am trying to find out EAS' behavior in case someone receives a 10MB attachment in an email, do the attachment get downloaded automatically, are there any limits, is it configurable? Moving forward, as RIM has announced full EAS support, is it worthwhile continuing with BES server licenses if your device management needs are very low? Thank you for any comments as always. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist<>
Re: EAS Attachments
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Alexander Rose wrote: > Moving forward, as RIM has announced full EAS support, is it worthwhile > continuing with BES server licenses if your device management needs are very > low? From what I'm told: Classic BB and new BB are two completely different platforms. Separate them in your mind completely. New BB uses ActiveSync for sync purposes. The server-side software provides device management and policy functions, for both new BB and third-party (iOS/Android) devices; it does not provide any sync functions. -- Ben --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: EAS Attachments
Correct. I have yet to find a "complete" comparison on the pros/cons between using BES vs. not using BES but, this gives a high level of the new BES world: http://vowe.net/archives/013555.html Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS Attachments On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Alexander Rose wrote: > Moving forward, as RIM has announced full EAS support, is it > worthwhile continuing with BES server licenses if your device > management needs are very low? From what I'm told: Classic BB and new BB are two completely different platforms. Separate them in your mind completely. New BB uses ActiveSync for sync purposes. The server-side software provides device management and policy functions, for both new BB and third-party (iOS/Android) devices; it does not provide any sync functions. -- Ben --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: EAS Attachments
What about roaming users? My understanding is that if you had a BES International plan enabled for your SIM card then all email traffic generated would not make your telephone bill any higher even if you are a UK citizen downloading 10 MB Excel files 10 times a day to your BB from a meeting room in Japan. Whereas if these same people switch to Active Sync, all traffic generated for downloading attachments and just normal sync will become a lot more expensive. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Guyer, Don wrote: > Correct. I have yet to find a "complete" comparison on the pros/cons > between using BES vs. not using BES but, this gives a high level of the new > BES world: > > http://vowe.net/archives/013555.html > > Regards, > > Don Guyer > Catholic Health East - Information Technology > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 > email: dgu...@che.org > Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 > For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the > helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. > > > -Original Message- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:55 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: EAS Attachments > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Alexander Rose wrote: > > Moving forward, as RIM has announced full EAS support, is it > > worthwhile continuing with BES server licenses if your device > > management needs are very low? > > From what I'm told: > > Classic BB and new BB are two completely different platforms. > Separate them in your mind completely. > > New BB uses ActiveSync for sync purposes. The server-side software > provides device management and policy functions, for both new BB and > third-party (iOS/Android) devices; it does not provide any sync functions. > > -- Ben > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist > > Confidentiality Notice: > This e-mail, including any attachments is the > property of Catholic Health East and is intended > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). > It may contain information that is privileged and > confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, > disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are > not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and > reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. > > > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist > > --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: EAS Attachments
That brings up another question, regarding the discussion on Monday. If a Z10 is being "policed" by a BES but, it communicates over EAS direct to Exchange, is there data compression at all? I'm assuming compression will only take place if it is on a BES, not using EAS at all? Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org<mailto:dgu...@che.org> Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE3111.98ED59E0] From: Alexander Rose [mailto:arose...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS Attachments What about roaming users? My understanding is that if you had a BES International plan enabled for your SIM card then all email traffic generated would not make your telephone bill any higher even if you are a UK citizen downloading 10 MB Excel files 10 times a day to your BB from a meeting room in Japan. Whereas if these same people switch to Active Sync, all traffic generated for downloading attachments and just normal sync will become a lot more expensive. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Guyer, Don mailto:dgu...@che.org>> wrote: Correct. I have yet to find a "complete" comparison on the pros/cons between using BES vs. not using BES but, this gives a high level of the new BES world: http://vowe.net/archives/013555.html Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org<mailto:dgu...@che.org> Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com<mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS Attachments On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Alexander Rose mailto:arose...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Moving forward, as RIM has announced full EAS support, is it > worthwhile continuing with BES server licenses if your device > management needs are very low? From what I'm told: Classic BB and new BB are two completely different platforms. Separate them in your mind completely. New BB uses ActiveSync for sync purposes. The server-side software provides device management and policy functions, for both new BB and third-party (iOS/Android) devices; it does not provide any sync functions. -- Ben --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist<>
