RE: Exchange SP4
No, I think that's the whole point - it's not standard. You should only apply hotfixes if you experience a particular problem. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 July 2002 11:30 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Standard disclaimer. No worse than Microsoft's EULA which makes no guarantees either, IIRC. Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 July 2002 09:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Yeah, hotfixes always have the old MS have only tested this hotfix for the problem it cures. Only apply if you are experiencing this specific problem. Reading between the lines this means We haven't done much testing - we've checked the procedure/module which is at fault and it appears to fix the problem but we have no idea of the sh*t this fix might cause in other parts of the code. Kevin -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 July 2002 08:47 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 I've had no problems without them. Most shops I've been involved with use email around the clock. Installing hotfixes just because they exist just interrupts people more important to the company than I - the ones that bring in revenue. If it is a security fix or an issue I am experiencing, that is different. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 The trouble with that philosophy is that things get overlooked when changes are made. Configure a new Internet Mail Connector under your regime and you're asking for trouble unless you have a photographic memory (which I certainly don't). And, for the record, I've had no ptoblems whatsoever with the Post-SP4 fixes. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 16:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut. I do and when I have a NEED to install a security fix, I test and then install. I don't install security fixes for things that do not apply to my environment. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut to you, my good man. Take a trip to www.microsoft.com/security and read the bulletins carefully next time. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 16:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut Phil. Don't install the Post-SP4 fixes unless you have a need to or are experiencing the issue that is solved by installing the SP. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut, Martin, you forgot to check that everything had restarted OK ;-) Don't forget the Post-SP4 fixes, the latest of which was released yesterday. Cheers, Phil List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Exchange SP4
Service packs are regression tested (but MS cannot duplicate every environment, and a few of 'em have just plain sucked). Hot fixes should never ever ever be applied without a really really good reason. And we all test all patches in our labs, right? - Original Message - From: Randal, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 I think we basically agree here. But if some brave souls don't test the hotfixes they'll probably end up in next service pack unchanged. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 July 2002 14:40 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Apples and Oranges. Adding Security fixes, critical updates etc are different than simply applying any ol hotfix that comes your way. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 And then when your server crashes because you haven't applied the hotfix which prevents the crash? H. Swings and roundabouts, I know. Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Exchange SP4
I've often used old desktops. They're better than nothing. - Original Message - From: Randal, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:08 AM Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 At this precise moment I have an Exchange 5.5 server in the lab, but it won't be there this time next week :-( I guess loads of us don't have the budget or resources to have test environments for everything. I wish we did! Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 July 2002 15:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange SP4 Service packs are regression tested (but MS cannot duplicate every environment, and a few of 'em have just plain sucked). Hot fixes should never ever ever be applied without a really really good reason. And we all test all patches in our labs, right? - Original Message - From: Randal, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 I think we basically agree here. But if some brave souls don't test the hotfixes they'll probably end up in next service pack unchanged. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 July 2002 14:40 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Apples and Oranges. Adding Security fixes, critical updates etc are different than simply applying any ol hotfix that comes your way. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 And then when your server crashes because you haven't applied the hotfix which prevents the crash? H. Swings and roundabouts, I know. Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange SP4
You will want to do the following when performing SP4. Stop all Exchange services manually (Shut down SA service. This will kill everything else). Stop IIS admin service (this will also shut down any other IIS services). Stop any AV software. Stop all Compaq agent services. Run SP4. Run Performance Optimizer. Have a beer. Go home. Have a beer. Have a beer. Have a beer. -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Compaq -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 SP4 is great. What brand are your servers? -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange SP4 Does anyone know of any issues that might arrise when upgrading from Exchange SP2 to Exchange SP4? Has anyone had any major problems with SP4? Scott Oliver Liz Claiborne Shoes Computer Operations Supervisor Microsoft Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange SP4
And the bit about upgrading any other copies of the admin program if they exist. Shocking stuff! :-) (ok, I didn't list it earlier either) Neil -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 25 July 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Exchange SP4 Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut, Martin, you forgot to check that everything had restarted OK ;-) Don't forget the Post-SP4 fixes, the latest of which was released yesterday. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 15:25 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 You will want to do the following when performing SP4. Stop all Exchange services manually (Shut down SA service. This will kill everything else). Stop IIS admin service (this will also shut down any other IIS services). Stop any AV software. Stop all Compaq agent services. Run SP4. Run Performance Optimizer. Have a beer. Go home. Have a beer. Have a beer. Have a beer. -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Compaq -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 SP4 is great. What brand are your servers? -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange SP4 Does anyone know of any issues that might arrise when upgrading from Exchange SP2 to Exchange SP4? Has anyone had any major problems with SP4? Scott Oliver Liz Claiborne Shoes Computer Operations Supervisor Microsoft Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange SP4
That's what I get for not enough morning java (the good kind) -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 And the bit about upgrading any other copies of the admin program if they exist. Shocking stuff! :-) (ok, I didn't list it earlier either) Neil -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 25 July 2002 15:27 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Exchange SP4 Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut, Martin, you forgot to check that everything had restarted OK ;-) Don't forget the Post-SP4 fixes, the latest of which was released yesterday. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 15:25 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 You will want to do the following when performing SP4. Stop all Exchange services manually (Shut down SA service. This will kill everything else). Stop IIS admin service (this will also shut down any other IIS services). Stop any AV software. Stop all Compaq agent services. Run SP4. Run Performance Optimizer. Have a beer. Go home. Have a beer. Have a beer. Have a beer. -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Compaq -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 SP4 is great. What brand are your servers? -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange SP4 Does anyone know of any issues that might arrise when upgrading from Exchange SP2 to Exchange SP4? Has anyone had any major problems with SP4? Scott Oliver Liz Claiborne Shoes Computer Operations Supervisor Microsoft Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange SP4
And don't forget, if it goes wrong, reverse some of the bits of the plan, e.g: have a beer, have a beer, have a beer, see boss. Neil -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 25 July 2002 15:48 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Exchange SP4 Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Now that sounds like a plan. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 You will want to do the following when performing SP4. Stop all Exchange services manually (Shut down SA service. This will kill everything else). Stop IIS admin service (this will also shut down any other IIS services). Stop any AV software. Stop all Compaq agent services. Run SP4. Run Performance Optimizer. Have a beer. Go home. Have a beer. Have a beer. Have a beer. -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Compaq -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 SP4 is great. What brand are your servers? -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange SP4 Does anyone know of any issues that might arrise when upgrading from Exchange SP2 to Exchange SP4? Has anyone had any major problems with SP4? Scott Oliver Liz Claiborne Shoes Computer Operations Supervisor Microsoft Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange SP4
Ding ding ding - 10:55 AM EST - first beer comment. Oh wait, DA@##*(( it's only Thursday. Nevermind. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 And don't forget, if it goes wrong, reverse some of the bits of the plan, e.g: have a beer, have a beer, have a beer, see boss. Neil -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 25 July 2002 15:48 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Exchange SP4 Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Now that sounds like a plan. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 You will want to do the following when performing SP4. Stop all Exchange services manually (Shut down SA service. This will kill everything else). Stop IIS admin service (this will also shut down any other IIS services). Stop any AV software. Stop all Compaq agent services. Run SP4. Run Performance Optimizer. Have a beer. Go home. Have a beer. Have a beer. Have a beer. -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Compaq -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 SP4 is great. What brand are your servers? -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange SP4 Does anyone know of any issues that might arrise when upgrading from Exchange SP2 to Exchange SP4? Has anyone had any major problems with SP4? Scott Oliver Liz Claiborne Shoes Computer Operations Supervisor Microsoft Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange SP4
Also, don't forget the backup services need to be stopped otherwise you may get those .dlls that cant be overwritten. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange SP4
Tut tut Phil. Don't install the Post-SP4 fixes unless you have a need to or are experiencing the issue that is solved by installing the SP. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut, Martin, you forgot to check that everything had restarted OK ;-) Don't forget the Post-SP4 fixes, the latest of which was released yesterday. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 15:25 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 You will want to do the following when performing SP4. Stop all Exchange services manually (Shut down SA service. This will kill everything else). Stop IIS admin service (this will also shut down any other IIS services). Stop any AV software. Stop all Compaq agent services. Run SP4. Run Performance Optimizer. Have a beer. Go home. Have a beer. Have a beer. Have a beer. -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Compaq -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 SP4 is great. What brand are your servers? -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange SP4 Does anyone know of any issues that might arrise when upgrading from Exchange SP2 to Exchange SP4? Has anyone had any major problems with SP4? Scott Oliver Liz Claiborne Shoes Computer Operations Supervisor Microsoft Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange SP4
Tut tut to you, my good man. Take a trip to www.microsoft.com/security and read the bulletins carefully next time. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 16:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut Phil. Don't install the Post-SP4 fixes unless you have a need to or are experiencing the issue that is solved by installing the SP. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut, Martin, you forgot to check that everything had restarted OK ;-) Don't forget the Post-SP4 fixes, the latest of which was released yesterday. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 15:25 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 You will want to do the following when performing SP4. Stop all Exchange services manually (Shut down SA service. This will kill everything else). Stop IIS admin service (this will also shut down any other IIS services). Stop any AV software. Stop all Compaq agent services. Run SP4. Run Performance Optimizer. Have a beer. Go home. Have a beer. Have a beer. Have a beer. -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Compaq -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 SP4 is great. What brand are your servers? -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange SP4 Does anyone know of any issues that might arrise when upgrading from Exchange SP2 to Exchange SP4? Has anyone had any major problems with SP4? Scott Oliver Liz Claiborne Shoes Computer Operations Supervisor Microsoft Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange SP4
The trouble with that philosophy is that things get overlooked when changes are made. Configure a new Internet Mail Connector under your regime and you're asking for trouble unless you have a photographic memory (which I certainly don't). And, for the record, I've had no ptoblems whatsoever with the Post-SP4 fixes. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 16:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut. I do and when I have a NEED to install a security fix, I test and then install. I don't install security fixes for things that do not apply to my environment. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut to you, my good man. Take a trip to www.microsoft.com/security and read the bulletins carefully next time. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 16:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut Phil. Don't install the Post-SP4 fixes unless you have a need to or are experiencing the issue that is solved by installing the SP. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut, Martin, you forgot to check that everything had restarted OK ;-) Don't forget the Post-SP4 fixes, the latest of which was released yesterday. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 15:25 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 You will want to do the following when performing SP4. Stop all Exchange services manually (Shut down SA service. This will kill everything else). Stop IIS admin service (this will also shut down any other IIS services). Stop any AV software. Stop all Compaq agent services. Run SP4. Run Performance Optimizer. Have a beer. Go home. Have a beer. Have a beer. Have a beer. -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Compaq -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 SP4 is great. What brand are your servers? -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange SP4 Does anyone know of any issues that might arrise when upgrading from Exchange SP2 to Exchange SP4? Has anyone had any major problems with SP4? Scott Oliver Liz Claiborne Shoes Computer Operations Supervisor Microsoft Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange SP4
We'll consider this a difference in philosophy then. I don't have a photographic memory, but I do make sure everything I do is well documented. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 The trouble with that philosophy is that things get overlooked when changes are made. Configure a new Internet Mail Connector under your regime and you're asking for trouble unless you have a photographic memory (which I certainly don't). And, for the record, I've had no ptoblems whatsoever with the Post-SP4 fixes. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 16:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut. I do and when I have a NEED to install a security fix, I test and then install. I don't install security fixes for things that do not apply to my environment. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut to you, my good man. Take a trip to www.microsoft.com/security and read the bulletins carefully next time. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 16:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut Phil. Don't install the Post-SP4 fixes unless you have a need to or are experiencing the issue that is solved by installing the SP. -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Tut tut, Martin, you forgot to check that everything had restarted OK ;-) Don't forget the Post-SP4 fixes, the latest of which was released yesterday. Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 July 2002 15:25 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 You will want to do the following when performing SP4. Stop all Exchange services manually (Shut down SA service. This will kill everything else). Stop IIS admin service (this will also shut down any other IIS services). Stop any AV software. Stop all Compaq agent services. Run SP4. Run Performance Optimizer. Have a beer. Go home. Have a beer. Have a beer. Have a beer. -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 Compaq -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange SP4 SP4 is great. What brand are your servers? -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange SP4 Does anyone know of any issues that might arrise when upgrading from Exchange SP2 to Exchange SP4? Has anyone had any major problems with SP4? Scott Oliver Liz Claiborne Shoes Computer Operations Supervisor Microsoft Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Outlook 2k Exchange sp4
Can the user log on to Outlook with another system? If so, have you tried detect and repair from the Outlook Help menu to repair the installation on that machine? We use 2K, so not sure if it's there in 2002. If not, you might also be able to choose add/remove programs and repair/reinstall from there. -Original Message- From: Fatmi, Saida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook 2k Exchange sp4 One of my users' win2k system crashed. He had to fix his system using repair disk. Everything works but his outlook 2002 is not working. It gives him error like system cannot log you in. It was working just fine before. I don't see any error log in the server. I tried to re-create his profile but nothing happen. I also made sure rpc locater startup is set to manual. That did not made any different. Please help. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Outlook 2k Exchange sp4
Detect and Repair is in OL2002 Steve -Original Message- From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2k Exchange sp4 Can the user log on to Outlook with another system? If so, have you tried detect and repair from the Outlook Help menu to repair the installation on that machine? We use 2K, so not sure if it's there in 2002. If not, you might also be able to choose add/remove programs and repair/reinstall from there. -Original Message- From: Fatmi, Saida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook 2k Exchange sp4 One of my users' win2k system crashed. He had to fix his system using repair disk. Everything works but his outlook 2002 is not working. It gives him error like system cannot log you in. It was working just fine before. I don't see any error log in the server. I tried to re-create his profile but nothing happen. I also made sure rpc locater startup is set to manual. That did not made any different. Please help. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Outlook 2k Exchange sp4
One of my users' win2k system crashed. He had to fix his system using repair disk. Everything works but his outlook 2002 is not working. It gives him error like system cannot log you in. It was working just fine before. I don't see any error log in the server. I tried to re-create his profile but nothing happen. I also made sure rpc locater startup is set to manual. That did not made any different. Please help. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Still got the problem with Exchange Sp4 and post
Title: Still got the problem with Exchange Sp4 and post Hello all, Still remember me? I installed a new imc with sp4 and a post sp4 for MTA problems I had. Thought this would fix my IMC problem. But no. On monday some hot shots called me as mail that was send over the weekend still hadn't arrived. So I had a look at the new server. It was having the same symptoms like the old one. Mail get's accepted by the imc but keeps sitting in the 'Inbound waiting for Conversion'. It never comes out only after a reboot. (Stopping the service and starting will also not work). Groetjes, Nicole List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
