Re: POP

[Steve Ens]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=POP3+uses+which+port%3F


On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Lynden A. Philadelphia <
lphiladelp...@philadelphiagroup.com> wrote:

> I have my own Exchange Server; but I keep receiving error messages "Cannot
> log in. Verify your email address, user name 
>
> Is there ports I have to open on the firewall?
>
> 
> From: Martin Blackstone [mblackst...@gmail.com]
> Sent: July-21-11 8:09 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: POP
>
> You don’t need POP for BIS. It will query your OWA server.
> You can setup an acct on your carriers BIS site.
> Query Google for your carrier name and BIS. For example Verizon BIS.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lynden A. Philadelphia [mailto:lphiladelp...@philadelphiagroup.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:48 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: POP
>
> Do you have a document?
>
> Not sure what to put in for pop and smtp
>
>
> Lynden
> P THINK GREEN before you PRINT SCREEN
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: July-21-11 12:07 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: POP
>
> I'd say the best way is to use BIS which is native to BBs and IIRC mimics
> outlook web access. You just need the login credentials.
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2011, Lynden A. Philadelphia <
> lphiladelp...@philadelphiagroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have an SBS 2011 it works fine.
> >
> > I would like to receive and send e-mails on my blackberry and don’t want
> to setup BESX.
> >
> > I think the best way is to setup POP on my Blackberry.
> >
> > I have started the POP services on SBS 2011.
> >
> > What do I do next?
> >
> > HELP
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to
> > which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged,
> > confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the
> reader of this message in not the intended recipient  or the employer or
> agent responsible for delivering the message to the recipient, you are
> hereby notified that dissemination, distribution or copying of this
> communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
> communication in error, please notify  me immediately by email or telephone,
> and delete this message and all of its attachments.
> >
> > Thank You.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: POP

[Lynden A. Philadelphia]

I have my own Exchange Server; but I keep receiving error messages "Cannot log 
in. Verify your email address, user name 

Is there ports I have to open on the firewall?


From: Martin Blackstone [mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: July-21-11 8:09 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP

You don’t need POP for BIS. It will query your OWA server.
You can setup an acct on your carriers BIS site.
Query Google for your carrier name and BIS. For example Verizon BIS.


-Original Message-
From: Lynden A. Philadelphia [mailto:lphiladelp...@philadelphiagroup.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP

Do you have a document?

Not sure what to put in for pop and smtp


Lynden
P THINK GREEN before you PRINT SCREEN

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: July-21-11 12:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: POP

I'd say the best way is to use BIS which is native to BBs and IIRC mimics 
outlook web access. You just need the login credentials.

On Wednesday, July 20, 2011, Lynden A. Philadelphia 
 wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have an SBS 2011 it works fine.
>
> I would like to receive and send e-mails on my blackberry and don’t want to 
> setup BESX.
>
> I think the best way is to setup POP on my Blackberry.
>
> I have started the POP services on SBS 2011.
>
> What do I do next?
>
> HELP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to
> which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged,
> confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader 
> of this message in not the intended recipient  or the employer or agent 
> responsible for delivering the message to the recipient, you are hereby 
> notified that dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is 
> strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please 
> notify  me immediately by email or telephone, and delete this message and all 
> of its attachments.
>
> Thank You.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
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RE: POP

[Martin Blackstone]

You don’t need POP for BIS. It will query your OWA server.
You can setup an acct on your carriers BIS site.
Query Google for your carrier name and BIS. For example Verizon BIS.


-Original Message-
From: Lynden A. Philadelphia [mailto:lphiladelp...@philadelphiagroup.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP

Do you have a document?

Not sure what to put in for pop and smtp


Lynden
P THINK GREEN before you PRINT SCREEN

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: July-21-11 12:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: POP

I'd say the best way is to use BIS which is native to BBs and IIRC mimics 
outlook web access. You just need the login credentials.

On Wednesday, July 20, 2011, Lynden A. Philadelphia 
 wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have an SBS 2011 it works fine.
>
> I would like to receive and send e-mails on my blackberry and don’t want to 
> setup BESX.
>
> I think the best way is to setup POP on my Blackberry.
>
> I have started the POP services on SBS 2011.
>
> What do I do next?
>
> HELP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to 
> which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, 
> confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader 
> of this message in not the intended recipient  or the employer or agent 
> responsible for delivering the message to the recipient, you are hereby 
> notified that dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is 
> strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please 
> notify  me immediately by email or telephone, and delete this message and all 
> of its attachments.
>
> Thank You.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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RE: POP

[Lynden A. Philadelphia]

Do you have a document?

Not sure what to put in for pop and smtp


Lynden
THINK GREEN before you PRINT SCREEN

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: July-21-11 12:07 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: POP

I'd say the best way is to use BIS which is native to BBs and IIRC mimics 
outlook web access. You just need the login credentials.

On Wednesday, July 20, 2011, Lynden A. Philadelphia 
 wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have an SBS 2011 it works fine.
>
> I would like to receive and send e-mails on my blackberry and don’t want to 
> setup BESX.
>
> I think the best way is to setup POP on my Blackberry.
>
> I have started the POP services on SBS 2011.
>
> What do I do next?
>
> HELP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to
> which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged,
> confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader 
> of this message in not the intended recipient  or the employer or agent 
> responsible for delivering the message to the recipient, you are hereby 
> notified that dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is 
> strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please 
> notify  me immediately by email or telephone, and delete this message and all 
> of its attachments.
>
> Thank You.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
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> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
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>
>
>

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Re: POP

[Jonathan Link]

I'd say the best way is to use BIS which is native to BBs and IIRC
mimics outlook web access. You just need the login credentials.

On Wednesday, July 20, 2011, Lynden A. Philadelphia
 wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have an SBS 2011 it works fine.
>
> I would like to receive and send e-mails on my blackberry and don’t want to 
> setup BESX.
>
> I think the best way is to setup POP on my Blackberry.
>
> I have started the POP services on SBS 2011.
>
> What do I do next?
>
> HELP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it 
> is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and 
> exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message in 
> not the intended recipient
>  or the employer or agent responsible for delivering the message to the 
> recipient, you are hereby notified that dissemination, distribution or 
> copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received 
> this communication in error, please notify
>  me immediately by email or telephone, and delete this message and all of its 
> attachments.
>
> Thank You.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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POP

[Lynden A. Philadelphia]

Hello,

I have an SBS 2011 it works fine.

I would like to receive and send e-mails on my blackberry and don't want to 
setup BESX.

I think the best way is to setup POP on my Blackberry.

I have started the POP services on SBS 2011.

What do I do next?

HELP





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RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

[Michael B. Smith]

It appears to me that you have EWS blocked at your firewall.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Chris Drobny [mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

I see it errors but don't really know what it means

Exchange Web Services synchronization, notification, availability, and 
Automatic Replies (OOF).  Not all of the tests of Exchange Web Services tasks 
completed.
[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/Minus.gif]

Test Steps



[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/SuccessWarn.png]

ExRCA is attempting to test Autodiscover for 
cdro...@lmsintellibound.com<mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com>.



Autodiscover was tested successfully.



[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/Plus.gif]

Test Steps



[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/Error.png]

Ensuring that the test mailbox folder is empty and accessible.



ExRCA couldn't confirm that the folder is accessible and empty.



[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/Minus.gif]

Additional Details



Exception details:
Message: The request failed. Unable to connect to the remote server
Type: Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestException
Stack trace:
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestBase.ValidateAndEmitRequest(HttpWebRequest&
 request)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.SimpleServiceRequestBase.InternalExecute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.MultiResponseServiceRequest`1.Execute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder(FolderId 
folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder[TFolder](FolderId
 folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.Folder.Bind(ExchangeService service, 
FolderId id)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.Tools.ExRca.Tests.EnsureEmptyFolderTest.PerformTestReally()
Exception details:
Message: The request failed. Unable to connect to the remote server
Type: Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestException
Stack trace:
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestBase.ValidateAndEmitRequest(HttpWebRequest&
 request)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.SimpleServiceRequestBase.InternalExecute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.MultiResponseServiceRequest`1.Execute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder(FolderId 
folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder[TFolder](FolderId
 folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.Folder.Bind(ExchangeService service, 
FolderId id)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.Tools.ExRca.Tests.EnsureEmptyFolderTest.PerformTestReally()
Exception details:
Message: The request failed. Unable to connect to the remote server
Type: Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestException
Stack trace:
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestBase.ValidateAndEmitRequest(HttpWebRequest&
 request)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.SimpleServiceRequestBase.InternalExecute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.MultiResponseServiceRequest`1.Execute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder(FolderId 
folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder[TFolder](FolderId
 folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.Folder.Bind(ExchangeService service, 
FolderId id)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.Tools.ExRca.Tests.EnsureEmptyFolderTest.PerformTestReally()

Last EWS request:


http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; 
xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messages"; 
xmlns:t="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/types"; 
xmlns:soap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/";>









AllProperties




cdro...@lmsintellibound.commailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com%3c/t:EmailAddress>>












From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

It's not because of the reason you mention.

What does testexchangeconnectivity.com have to say about it?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Chris Drobny [mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

But when I open the wizard in outlook it says "your automatic reply settings 
cannot be displayed because the server is unavailable.

From: Michael B. Smith [m

RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

[Knoch, James W]

Create a different, empty mailbox to test with.  If the mailbox contains data 
in the Inbox (or possibly other folders), testexchangeconnectivity.com will 
error out like that.  It is creating test messages in the Inbox and errors off 
when it gets more than it expects.

From: Chris Drobny [mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

I see it errors but don't really know what it means

Exchange Web Services synchronization, notification, availability, and 
Automatic Replies (OOF).  Not all of the tests of Exchange Web Services tasks 
completed.
[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/Minus.gif]

Test Steps



[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/SuccessWarn.png]

ExRCA is attempting to test Autodiscover for 
cdro...@lmsintellibound.com<mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com>.



Autodiscover was tested successfully.



[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/Plus.gif]

Test Steps



[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/Error.png]

Ensuring that the test mailbox folder is empty and accessible.



ExRCA couldn't confirm that the folder is accessible and empty.



[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/Minus.gif]

Additional Details



Exception details:
Message: The request failed. Unable to connect to the remote server
Type: Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestException
Stack trace:
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestBase.ValidateAndEmitRequest(HttpWebRequest&
 request)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.SimpleServiceRequestBase.InternalExecute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.MultiResponseServiceRequest`1.Execute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder(FolderId 
folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder[TFolder](FolderId
 folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.Folder.Bind(ExchangeService service, 
FolderId id)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.Tools.ExRca.Tests.EnsureEmptyFolderTest.PerformTestReally()
Exception details:
Message: The request failed. Unable to connect to the remote server
Type: Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestException
Stack trace:
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestBase.ValidateAndEmitRequest(HttpWebRequest&
 request)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.SimpleServiceRequestBase.InternalExecute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.MultiResponseServiceRequest`1.Execute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder(FolderId 
folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder[TFolder](FolderId
 folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.Folder.Bind(ExchangeService service, 
FolderId id)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.Tools.ExRca.Tests.EnsureEmptyFolderTest.PerformTestReally()
Exception details:
Message: The request failed. Unable to connect to the remote server
Type: Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestException
Stack trace:
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestBase.ValidateAndEmitRequest(HttpWebRequest&
 request)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.SimpleServiceRequestBase.InternalExecute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.MultiResponseServiceRequest`1.Execute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder(FolderId 
folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder[TFolder](FolderId
 folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.Folder.Bind(ExchangeService service, 
FolderId id)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.Tools.ExRca.Tests.EnsureEmptyFolderTest.PerformTestReally()

Last EWS request:


http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; 
xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messages"; 
xmlns:t="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/types"; 
xmlns:soap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/";>









AllProperties




cdro...@lmsintellibound.commailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com%3c/t:EmailAddress>>












From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

It's not because of the reason you mention.

What does testexchangeconnectivity.com have to say about it?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Chris Drobny [mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

But when I open the wizard in outlook it s

RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

[Chris Drobny]

I see it errors but don't really know what it means

Exchange Web Services synchronization, notification, availability, and 
Automatic Replies (OOF).  Not all of the tests of Exchange Web Services tasks 
completed.
[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/Minus.gif]

Test Steps



[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/SuccessWarn.png]

ExRCA is attempting to test Autodiscover for cdro...@lmsintellibound.com.



Autodiscover was tested successfully.



[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/Plus.gif]

Test Steps



[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/Error.png]

Ensuring that the test mailbox folder is empty and accessible.



ExRCA couldn't confirm that the folder is accessible and empty.



[Description: https://testexchangeconnectivity.com/Images/Minus.gif]

Additional Details



Exception details:
Message: The request failed. Unable to connect to the remote server
Type: Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestException
Stack trace:
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestBase.ValidateAndEmitRequest(HttpWebRequest&
 request)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.SimpleServiceRequestBase.InternalExecute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.MultiResponseServiceRequest`1.Execute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder(FolderId 
folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder[TFolder](FolderId
 folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.Folder.Bind(ExchangeService service, 
FolderId id)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.Tools.ExRca.Tests.EnsureEmptyFolderTest.PerformTestReally()
Exception details:
Message: The request failed. Unable to connect to the remote server
Type: Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestException
Stack trace:
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestBase.ValidateAndEmitRequest(HttpWebRequest&
 request)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.SimpleServiceRequestBase.InternalExecute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.MultiResponseServiceRequest`1.Execute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder(FolderId 
folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder[TFolder](FolderId
 folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.Folder.Bind(ExchangeService service, 
FolderId id)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.Tools.ExRca.Tests.EnsureEmptyFolderTest.PerformTestReally()
Exception details:
Message: The request failed. Unable to connect to the remote server
Type: Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestException
Stack trace:
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ServiceRequestBase.ValidateAndEmitRequest(HttpWebRequest&
 request)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.SimpleServiceRequestBase.InternalExecute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.MultiResponseServiceRequest`1.Execute()
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder(FolderId 
folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.ExchangeService.BindToFolder[TFolder](FolderId
 folderId, PropertySet propertySet)
at Microsoft.Exchange.WebServices.Data.Folder.Bind(ExchangeService service, 
FolderId id)
at 
Microsoft.Exchange.Tools.ExRca.Tests.EnsureEmptyFolderTest.PerformTestReally()

Last EWS request:


http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; 
xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messages"; 
xmlns:t="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/types"; 
xmlns:soap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/";>









AllProperties




cdro...@lmsintellibound.com












From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

It's not because of the reason you mention.

What does testexchangeconnectivity.com have to say about it?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Chris Drobny [mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

But when I open the wizard in outlook it says "your automatic reply settings 
cannot be displayed because the server is unavailable.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

This is exactly what should happen.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Chris Drobny [mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OOF will not pop up i

RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

[Michael B. Smith]

It's not because of the reason you mention.

What does testexchangeconnectivity.com have to say about it?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Chris Drobny [mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

But when I open the wizard in outlook it says "your automatic reply settings 
cannot be displayed because the server is unavailable.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

This is exactly what should happen.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Chris Drobny [mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available


If I run the test is says



https://webmail.lmsintellibound.com/ews/exchange.asmx<../ews/exchange.asmx> is 
my OOF URL



I can pop this in a browser



And login



The URL changes to 
https://webmail.lmsintellibound.com/ews/Services.wsdl<../ews/Services.wsdl>





Any ideas?


Chris Drobny
Network/Systems Administrator
LMS Intellibound, Inc.
cdro...@lmsintellibound.com<mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com>
Office-770.724.0562
Cell-404.797.9710


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RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

[Sobey, Richard A]

Seems to me you don't have a valid certificate installed that matches 1) 
webmail.lmsintellibound.com or 2) the FQDN of the CAS server.

From: bounce-9306941-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
[mailto:bounce-9306941-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Chris 
Drobny
Sent: 28 March 2011 17:35
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

But when I open the wizard in outlook it says "your automatic reply settings 
cannot be displayed because the server is unavailable.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

This is exactly what should happen.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Chris Drobny [mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available


If I run the test is says



https://webmail.lmsintellibound.com/ews/exchange.asmx<../ews/exchange.asmx> is 
my OOF URL



I can pop this in a browser



And login



The URL changes to 
https://webmail.lmsintellibound.com/ews/Services.wsdl<../ews/Services.wsdl>





Any ideas?


Chris Drobny
Network/Systems Administrator
LMS Intellibound, Inc.
cdro...@lmsintellibound.com<mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com>
Office-770.724.0562
Cell-404.797.9710


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RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

[Chris Drobny]

But when I open the wizard in outlook it says "your automatic reply settings 
cannot be displayed because the server is unavailable.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

This is exactly what should happen.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Chris Drobny [mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available


If I run the test is says



https://webmail.lmsintellibound.com/ews/exchange.asmx<../ews/exchange.asmx> is 
my OOF URL



I can pop this in a browser



And login



The URL changes to 
https://webmail.lmsintellibound.com/ews/Services.wsdl<../ews/Services.wsdl>





Any ideas?


Chris Drobny
Network/Systems Administrator
LMS Intellibound, Inc.
cdro...@lmsintellibound.com<mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com>
Office-770.724.0562
Cell-404.797.9710


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RE: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available

[Michael B. Smith]

This is exactly what should happen.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Chris Drobny [mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OOF will not pop up in Outlook 2010 says not available


If I run the test is says



https://webmail.lmsintellibound.com/ews/exchange.asmx<../ews/exchange.asmx> is 
my OOF URL



I can pop this in a browser



And login



The URL changes to 
https://webmail.lmsintellibound.com/ews/Services.wsdl<../ews/Services.wsdl>





Any ideas?


Chris Drobny
Network/Systems Administrator
LMS Intellibound, Inc.
cdro...@lmsintellibound.com<mailto:cdro...@lmsintellibound.com>
Office-770.724.0562
Cell-404.797.9710


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RE: POP & IMAP during 2007/2010 coexistence

[Sobey, Richard A]

Nope, that's exactly the hard info I was looking for:

If the user's mailbox is on an Exchange 2007 Mailbox server, CAS-01 locates an 
Exchange 2007 Client Access server in the same Active Directory site as the 
user's Mailbox server, which may be in the same Active Directory site as 
CAS-01. CAS-01 proxies the request to the Client Access server.

I'm assuming the same applies for IMAP connections as it does for POP.

Thank you :)

From: bounce-9132279-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
[mailto:bounce-9132279-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael 
B. Smith
Sent: 11 October 2010 15:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP & IMAP during 2007/2010 coexistence

I'm not certain that you can do what you want, but take a look at the 
InternalConnectionSettings parameter.

See also: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb310763.aspx

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 5:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: POP & IMAP during 2007/2010 coexistence

Morning all,

I hope someone can help me with this question. If a user who is accessing their 
mailbox via an Exchange 2010 SP1 CAS server has their mailbox stored on an 
Exchange 2007 SP2 mailbox server, is the request handled directly by the 2010 
server, or proxied/redirected to the 2007 server?

If it's redirected, where do I find the setting that says which server to 
redirect to?

The following Technet article suggests it's redirected, but no information on 
where to configure the legacy hostname, as you would do for OWA or ActiveSync:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd351133.aspx

All I've found so far is that the 2010 CAS server will let me access my 2007 
mailbox, but I'm repeatedly asked to authenticate at random intervals.

Thanks

Richard


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RE: POP & IMAP during 2007/2010 coexistence

[Michael B. Smith]

I'm not certain that you can do what you want, but take a look at the 
InternalConnectionSettings parameter.

See also: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb310763.aspx

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 5:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: POP & IMAP during 2007/2010 coexistence

Morning all,

I hope someone can help me with this question. If a user who is accessing their 
mailbox via an Exchange 2010 SP1 CAS server has their mailbox stored on an 
Exchange 2007 SP2 mailbox server, is the request handled directly by the 2010 
server, or proxied/redirected to the 2007 server?

If it's redirected, where do I find the setting that says which server to 
redirect to?

The following Technet article suggests it's redirected, but no information on 
where to configure the legacy hostname, as you would do for OWA or ActiveSync:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd351133.aspx

All I've found so far is that the 2010 CAS server will let me access my 2007 
mailbox, but I'm repeatedly asked to authenticate at random intervals.

Thanks

Richard


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POP & IMAP during 2007/2010 coexistence

[Sobey, Richard A]

Morning all,

I hope someone can help me with this question. If a user who is accessing their 
mailbox via an Exchange 2010 SP1 CAS server has their mailbox stored on an 
Exchange 2007 SP2 mailbox server, is the request handled directly by the 2010 
server, or proxied/redirected to the 2007 server?

If it's redirected, where do I find the setting that says which server to 
redirect to?

The following Technet article suggests it's redirected, but no information on 
where to configure the legacy hostname, as you would do for OWA or ActiveSync:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd351133.aspx

All I've found so far is that the 2010 CAS server will let me access my 2007 
mailbox, but I'm repeatedly asked to authenticate at random intervals.

Thanks

Richard


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RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

[Jay Dale]

The problem isn't receiving mail, it's sending it out.  I keep getting errors 
trying to use either SSL, TLS, Auto, or None in Outlook 2007.  When I finally 
turn off "My outgoing server requires authentication", it says that it can't 
send mail due to RBL policy.  When I turn it back on, I get the "none of the 
authentication methods supported by this client are supported by your server" 
message.  I get the same message when I change the encryption method to Auto, 
TLS, or SSL.

Jay Dale
I.T. Manager, 3GiG
Mobile: 713.299.2541
Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com<mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com>

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From: Peter Johnson [mailto:peter.john...@peterstow.com]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

You could use the client connector which defaults to the secure POP3 port 
number and allows user authentication. Check the properties on the Client 
Receive Connector in Exchange Management Console.

Regards
[cid:image001.jpg@01CB0C65.EA4CE810]

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From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com]
Sent: 14 June 2010 16:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

Because it would become her primary account and she doesn't want to mess with 
her existing accounts...:(

Jay Dale
I.T. Manager, 3GiG
Mobile: 713.299.2541
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From: Peter Johnson [mailto:peter.john...@peterstow.com]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

I reckon e-mail over VPN is your only option. Why not go the RPC over HTTP 
route?

Regards
[cid:image001.jpg@01CB0C65.EA4CE810]

Peter Johnson
I.T Architect
United Kingdom: +44 1285 658542
South Africa: +27 11 252 1100
Swaziland: +268 442 7000

RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

[Peter Johnson]

You could use the client connector which defaults to the secure POP3 port 
number and allows user authentication. Check the properties on the Client 
Receive Connector in Exchange Management Console.

Regards
[cid:image001.jpg@01CB0BE1.02AA3F50]

Peter Johnson
I.T Architect
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From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com]
Sent: 14 June 2010 16:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

Because it would become her primary account and she doesn't want to mess with 
her existing accounts...:(

Jay Dale
I.T. Manager, 3GiG
Mobile: 713.299.2541
Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com<mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com>

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From: Peter Johnson [mailto:peter.john...@peterstow.com]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

I reckon e-mail over VPN is your only option. Why not go the RPC over HTTP 
route?

Regards
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RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

[Peter Johnson]

Then make her use the OWA interface!! She will come around soon enough!! :)
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From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com]
Sent: 14 June 2010 16:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

Because it would become her primary account and she doesn't want to mess with 
her existing accounts...:(

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From: Peter Johnson [mailto:peter.john...@peterstow.com]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

I reckon e-mail over VPN is your only option. Why not go the RPC over HTTP 
route?

Regards
[cid:image001.jpg@01CB0BE0.704F0DC0]

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RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

[Jay Dale]

Because it would become her primary account and she doesn't want to mess with 
her existing accounts...:(

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From: Peter Johnson [mailto:peter.john...@peterstow.com]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

I reckon e-mail over VPN is your only option. Why not go the RPC over HTTP 
route?

Regards
[cid:image001.jpg@01CB0BA4.6485BF20]

Peter Johnson
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From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com]
Sent: 14 June 2010 15:29
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: POP user & Exchange 2007

Hey all,

Currently using Exchange 2007 on SBS 2008 - I have a user that is a salesperson 
that's mobile.  She has multiple accounts with different clients, and she just 
was hired from our company, so I had to set her up as a POP3 account user 
rather than RPC over HTTPS.  Needless to say, I'm having issues with her 
sending out email through our server.  I attempted to change the Internet 
Receive connector for her to be able to send through it, but it basically made 
our server an open relay.

Since she moves around, I can't make a connector based on her IP address, so do 
I have to make her use email via VPN?  Is there any other options to configure 
on the server to allow her to send mail out?

Thanks,

Jay

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RE: POP user & Exchange 2007

[Peter Johnson]

I reckon e-mail over VPN is your only option. Why not go the RPC over HTTP 
route?

Regards
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Peter Johnson
I.T Architect
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From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com]
Sent: 14 June 2010 15:29
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: POP user & Exchange 2007

Hey all,

Currently using Exchange 2007 on SBS 2008 - I have a user that is a salesperson 
that's mobile.  She has multiple accounts with different clients, and she just 
was hired from our company, so I had to set her up as a POP3 account user 
rather than RPC over HTTPS.  Needless to say, I'm having issues with her 
sending out email through our server.  I attempted to change the Internet 
Receive connector for her to be able to send through it, but it basically made 
our server an open relay.

Since she moves around, I can't make a connector based on her IP address, so do 
I have to make her use email via VPN?  Is there any other options to configure 
on the server to allow her to send mail out?

Thanks,

Jay

Jay Dale
I.T. Manager, 3GiG
Mobile: 713.299.2541
Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com<mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com>

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<><>

POP user & Exchange 2007

[Jay Dale]

Hey all,

Currently using Exchange 2007 on SBS 2008 - I have a user that is a salesperson 
that's mobile.  She has multiple accounts with different clients, and she just 
was hired from our company, so I had to set her up as a POP3 account user 
rather than RPC over HTTPS.  Needless to say, I'm having issues with her 
sending out email through our server.  I attempted to change the Internet 
Receive connector for her to be able to send through it, but it basically made 
our server an open relay.

Since she moves around, I can't make a connector based on her IP address, so do 
I have to make her use email via VPN?  Is there any other options to configure 
on the server to allow her to send mail out?

Thanks,

Jay

Jay Dale
I.T. Manager, 3GiG
Mobile: 713.299.2541
Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com

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RE: Beginning to Migrate from pop/smtp hosted to Exchange 2003 in house.

[Campbell, Rob]

Have you tried telnet to port 25 on the Ironport, or using a PS script to send 
an email using the Ironport as a smarthost?

PS script (V2)

Send-mailmessage -smtpserver  -to "" -from 
"" -subject "Test" -body "Test"


PS script (V1)

$mailhost = ""

$from = ""
$to = ""
$subj = "Test"
$body = "Test "
$SmtpClient = new-object system.net.mail.smtpClient
$SmtpClient.Host = $mailhost
$mailmessage = New-Object system.net.mail.mailmessage
$mailmessage.from = ($from)
$mailmessage.To.add($to)
$mailmessage.Subject = $subj
$mailmessage.Body = $body
$smtpclient.Send($mailmessage)


From: David McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Beginning to Migrate from pop/smtp hosted to Exchange 2003 in house.

Yeah Me!

Okay so you all have given me great direction.
I am doing my testing right now.
I have a 5 step process.
1. Route all smtp mail through my firewall then my Ironport then my 
Exchange Server.
2. Add smtp address to my user account in Exchange.
3. Migrate Outllook Express data to Outlook using the wizards.
4. Add Internet addresses for domain such as MX, A, and SPF records.
5. Cancel Email hosting service.

So I have a ticket open with Ironport support to verify my changes there are 
cool.

I am testing my email and from one of 4 hosted email accounts (All of which 
will be brought in house) and I don't ever see it leave or enter the smtp queue 
on Exchange or Ironport.
So I am at a loss for why I am not seeing it.
Is it because in step 2 I am giving the external pop/smtp addresses??


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RE: Beginning to Migrate from pop/smtp hosted to Exchange 2003 in house.

[David W. McSpadden]

Haven't gotten there yet.  Still migrating and testing the setup of the user
account.

 

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From: Eric [mailto:seag...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Beginning to Migrate from pop/smtp hosted to Exchange 2003 in
house.

 

DNS can take time to propagate, so your new MX record may take some time to
be "known".  I use a few DNS sites as well as query my ISP DNS servers.

http://www.iptools.com/

http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx

Hope this helps.

Eric

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, David McSpadden  wrote:

Yeah Me!

 

Okay so you all have given me great direction.  

I am doing my testing right now.

I have a 5 step process.

1. Route all smtp mail through my firewall then my Ironport then my
Exchange Server.

2. Add smtp address to my user account in Exchange.

3. Migrate Outllook Express data to Outlook using the wizards.

4. Add Internet addresses for domain such as MX, A, and SPF records.

5. Cancel Email hosting service.

 

So I have a ticket open with Ironport support to verify my changes there are
cool.

 

I am testing my email and from one of 4 hosted email accounts (All of which
will be brought in house) and I don't ever see it leave or enter the smtp
queue on Exchange or Ironport.

So I am at a loss for why I am not seeing it.

Is it because in step 2 I am giving the external pop/smtp addresses??

 

 

"Please consider the environment before printing this email."

 

 

 

<>

Re: Beginning to Migrate from pop/smtp hosted to Exchange 2003 in house.

[Eric]

DNS can take time to propagate, so your new MX record may take some time to
be "known".  I use a few DNS sites as well as query my ISP DNS servers.

http://www.iptools.com/

http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx

Hope this helps.

Eric

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, David McSpadden  wrote:

>  Yeah Me!
>
>
>
> Okay so you all have given me great direction.
>
> I am doing my testing right now.
>
> I have a 5 step process.
>
> 1. Route all smtp mail through my firewall then my Ironport then my
> Exchange Server.
>
> 2. Add smtp address to my user account in Exchange.
>
> 3. Migrate Outllook Express data to Outlook using the wizards.
>
> 4. Add Internet addresses for domain such as MX, A, and SPF
> records.
>
> 5. Cancel Email hosting service.
>
>
>
> So I have a ticket open with Ironport support to verify my changes there
> are cool.
>
>
>
> I am testing my email and from one of 4 hosted email accounts (All of which
> will be brought in house) and I don’t ever see it leave or enter the smtp
> queue on Exchange or Ironport.
>
> So I am at a loss for why I am not seeing it.
>
> Is it because in step 2 I am giving the external pop/smtp addresses??
>
>
>
>
>
> “Please consider the environment before printing this email.”
>
>
>
<>

Beginning to Migrate from pop/smtp hosted to Exchange 2003 in house.

[David McSpadden]

Yeah Me!

 

Okay so you all have given me great direction.  

I am doing my testing right now.

I have a 5 step process.

1. Route all smtp mail through my firewall then my Ironport then
my Exchange Server.

2. Add smtp address to my user account in Exchange.

3. Migrate Outllook Express data to Outlook using the wizards.

4. Add Internet addresses for domain such as MX, A, and SPF
records.

5. Cancel Email hosting service.

 

So I have a ticket open with Ironport support to verify my changes there
are cool.

 

I am testing my email and from one of 4 hosted email accounts (All of
which will be brought in house) and I don't ever see it leave or enter
the smtp queue on Exchange or Ironport.

So I am at a loss for why I am not seeing it.

Is it because in step 2 I am giving the external pop/smtp addresses??

 

 

"Please consider the environment before printing this email."

 

 

<>

R: POP Connectors Odd Problem

[HELP_PC]

Go with popbeamer instead of the MS Connector but look also to the quality of 
the connection
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

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Da: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] 
Inviato: venerdì 13 marzo 2009 0.02
A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Oggetto: POP Connectors Odd Problem


Alright guys, 
 
You seem to be exchange pro's,
 
I'm having quite an odd problem with Windows SBS 2003 and Exchange 2003's POP 
connectors. I seem to fix one error and two more pop up, I seem to fix those 
two and two more pop up. The set up is: We have our domain hosted with a 
hosting company, we have all our email addresses hosted on their mail servers 
and we download the mail from their servers via POP3 to our SBS server, our SBS 
server then distributes the mail to the correct accounts and its done that way, 
because we dont have a fixed IP at the office location. 
 
I'm having problems with Exchange (Im guessing, Im not to sure at this point), 
intermittantly dropping mail. Like I will get notes from users saying "A client 
tried to send me an email, but it still hasn't come through yet" and the client 
has obviously sent the email. But, its not ALL the mail, just 2 or 3 emails get 
lost out of a couple of hundred daily. 
 
I am getting a lot of error 1023 and 1036's in the application log, part of the 
event log. Saying things like: 
" 

An error occurred during a POP3 transaction to server mailto:michaell...@example.com.au> ]>. The error 
is 58 (The specified server cannot perform the requested operation.

"

Or

"

The downloading process for mailbox  was ended with one or more errors.

"
 
I have got a couple of NDR's but most of the clients whose mail fails to reach 
us, dont seem to get NDRs. Here is one of the NDRs:
Diagnostic information for administrators:
 
Generating server: example.com.au
 
 <mailto:mspop3connector.micha...@example.com.au> 
mspop3connector.micha...@example.com.au
 
#< #5.1.1> #SMTP#
 
Original message headers:
Received: from mail pickup service by example.com.au with Microsoft
SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:00:28 +1100
Return-Path: 
Envelope-to: micha...@example.com.au
CC:
BCC:
Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:58:23 +1000
X-TPG-Junk-Status: Message not scanned
From: 
Message-ID: mailto:server01pfvjcr0...@example.com.au> >
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2009 05:00:28.0217 (UTC) 
FILETIME=[2165DA90:01C9A13D]
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:00:28 +1100
KeywordsX-TPG-Antivirus: Passed
From: Fiona Andersen 
To: IMB Recipient 1 
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:00:27 +1100
Message-ID: 
Subject: Operations Meeting
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Thread-Topic: Operations Meeting
Thread-Index: AcmhPLj1lbzWjIOCSxqOX3GSK2yVqg==
Accept-Language: en-US, en-AU
X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Exchange 2000
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
acceptlanguage: en-US, en-AU
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
   boundary="_000_1FEC67542514E949BB14A00F52A816A6076D5ABD10SWPDCStormwpl_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more 
information
X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner-ID: 1Lgu2k-00089E-P6
X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner: Found to be clean
X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam,SpamAssassin (not cached, 
score=-2.598, required 5,autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00)
X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner-From: fio...@othercompanycom.au 
<mailto:fio...@othercompany.com.au> 
X-Spam-Status: No
Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
Importance: normal
X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.237 [270.11.9/1992]
Priority: normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325
 
I have tried resolving this issue for the past 2 - 3 days. I have tried to use 
imbreg.exe (as was stated in a few kb's regarding these errors), i have tried 
to update the server and have added Hotfix KB 835 734 , but I cant seem to get 
this up and going correctly...
 
Any ideas?
 
Daniel

 


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POP Connectors Odd Problem

[Daniel Hood]

Alright guys,

 You seem to be exchange pro's,

 I'm having quite an odd problem with Windows SBS 2003 and Exchange 2003's
POP connectors. I seem to fix one error and two more pop up, I seem to fix
those two and two more pop up. The set up is: We have our domain hosted with
a hosting company, we have all our email addresses hosted on
their mail servers and we download the mail from their servers via POP3 to
our SBS server, our SBS server then distributes the mail to the correct
accounts and its done that way, because we dont have a fixed IP at the
office location.

 I'm having problems with Exchange (Im guessing, Im not to sure at this
point), intermittantly dropping mail. Like I will get notes from users
saying "A client tried to send me an email, but it still hasn't come through
yet" and the client has obviously sent the email. But, its not ALL the mail,
just 2 or 3 emails get lost out of a couple of hundred daily.

 I am getting a lot of error 1023 and 1036's in the application log, part of
the event log. Saying things like:
"

An error occurred during a POP3 transaction to server . The error is 58 (The specified server cannot
perform the requested operation.

"

Or

"

The downloading process for mailbox  was ended with one or more errors.

"

 I have got a couple of NDR's but most of the clients whose mail fails to
reach us, dont seem to get NDRs. Here is one of the NDRs:
Diagnostic information for administrators:

  Generating server: example.com.au

  mspop3connector.micha...@example.com.au

#< #5.1.1> #SMTP#

  Original message headers:
  Received: from mail pickup service by example.com.au with Microsoft
SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:00:28 +1100
Return-Path: 
Envelope-to: micha...@example.com.au
CC:
BCC:
Delivery-date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:58:23 +1000
X-TPG-Junk-Status: Message not scanned
From: 
Message-ID: 
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2009 05:00:28.0217 (UTC)
FILETIME=[2165DA90:01C9A13D]
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:00:28 +1100
KeywordsX-TPG-Antivirus: Passed
From: Fiona Andersen 
To: IMB Recipient 1 
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:00:27 +1100
Message-ID: 
Subject: Operations Meeting
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Thread-Topic: Operations Meeting
Thread-Index: AcmhPLj1lbzWjIOCSxqOX3GSK2yVqg==
Accept-Language: en-US, en-AU
X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Exchange 2000
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
acceptlanguage: en-US, en-AU
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

 boundary="_000_1FEC67542514E949BB14A00F52A816A6076D5ABD10SWPDCStormwpl_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more
information
X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner-ID: 1Lgu2k-00089E-P6
X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner: Found to be clean
X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam,SpamAssassin (not
cached, score=-2.598, required 5,autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60,
HTML_MESSAGE 0.00)
X-EndeavourServerAU-MailScanner-From: fio...@othercompany.com.au
X-Spam-Status: No
Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
Importance: normal
X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.0.237 [270.11.9/1992]
Priority: normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325

I have tried resolving this issue for the past 2 - 3 days. I have tried to
use imbreg.exe (as was stated in a few kb's regarding these errors), i have
tried to update the server and have added Hotfix KB 835 734 , but I cant
seem to get this up and going correctly...

Any ideas?

Daniel

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Default Mailbox Features POP and IMAP to Disabled

[Russ Patterson]

Hello all -

Anyone have a way to tweak things so that new users created in a Windows
2008, Exchange 2007 forest all default to disabled for POP and IMAP? We have
a real business need to have those OFF for the vast majority of our users. I
know you can script existing boxes with Set-CASMailbozx (I think) - but we
really need - in the GUI - for a new blank user dialog box to come up with
the defaults already at DISABLED. Anyone have any suggestions? As always -
thanks in advance!

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RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question

[Steve Szabo]

Now, you follow step 2--create a new profile.

\\Steve// 


> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:13 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> 
> Before my first post on this issue I created a new pst and assigned it
> to be the location for delivery.  I left the other PSTs in the profile.
> She already had two so now she has three.  The problem continues with
> the new pst.  I wouldn't think a corrupt pst that was not the delivery
> pst would cause this would you?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steve Szabo [mailto:steve...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:53 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> >
> > First, run SCANPST. Run as many times as needed to come up clean. Note
> that
> > if you copy the PST prior to running SCANPST, you can skip the backup
> step,
> > if a repair is required, which takes a ridiculous amount of time.
> >
> > If SCANPST fails to bring joy, create a new profile.
> >
> > \\Steve//
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:08 PM
> > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject: OT: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> > >
> > > Sorry for the off topic post that has nothing to do with exchange.
> I
> > > figured this crowd probably knows about as much about Outlook as
> anybody
> > > so I'm hoping you can help.
> > >
> > > I have several users that connect with Outlook 2003 to a
> non-exchange
> > > mail server via POP/SMTP.  Outlook has the latest patches.  They
> > > frequently have mail get hung up in their outbox.  Sometimes exiting
> > > Outlook and restarting it will get the messages to go out.
> Sometimes
> > > deleting them and resending will do the job.  Does anyone know of a
> fix
> > > for this?
> > > These people are getting desperate.  Thanks for any help you can
> > > provide.
> > >
> > > Curt Finley
> > >
> >
> >
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> > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
> 
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RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question

[Jim Dandy]

Never mind - William Lefkovics gave the link to turn on the protocol
debugging feature.

Thanks for everyone's suggestions on this.  Hopefully we'll find out
what the problem is.

Curt

> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> 
> I couldn't find a protocol debugging feature.  Are you talking about
the
> errors tab under the details section of the send/receive window?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:29 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> >
> > Turn on protocol debugging to figure out where it's getting hung up.
> >
> > I use Outlook with quite a number of non-Microsoft accounts (and did
> when I
> > was using Outlook 2003 as well).
> >
> > When using non-beta Outlook versions, I don't think I've ever seen
> this be
> > Outlook's fault.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
> > I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:08 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: OT: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> >
> > Sorry for the off topic post that has nothing to do with exchange.
I
> > figured this crowd probably knows about as much about Outlook as
> anybody
> > so I'm hoping you can help.
> >
> > I have several users that connect with Outlook 2003 to a
non-exchange
> > mail server via POP/SMTP.  Outlook has the latest patches.  They
> > frequently have mail get hung up in their outbox.  Sometimes exiting
> > Outlook and restarting it will get the messages to go out.
Sometimes
> > deleting them and resending will do the job.  Does anyone know of a
> fix
> > for this?
> > These people are getting desperate.  Thanks for any help you can
> > provide.
> >
> > Curt Finley
> >
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> > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
> >
> >
> > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
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> 
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RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question

[Jim Dandy]

Not all users have the problem.  I don't know what percentage have
issues but I know I have 5 people who have the problem and people in
other departments have reported similar problems.

I don't have control of the POP or SMTP servers.

> -Original Message-
> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:51 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> 
> All users?  A few?  New profiles?
> 
> Do you have control of the POP3 server? If it is a lot of users, then
I
> would be looking at the server and troubleshooting POP from there
first.
> 
> You could use a packet sniffer to view the POP3 conversations to see
where
> they fail.
> You could enable logging in Outlook:
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA011742661033.aspx
> It sucks because it is just an on/off switch, there is no granular
control.
> Also the logs are just plain text so delete them off the workstation
you run
> logging on.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:08 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> 
> Sorry for the off topic post that has nothing to do with exchange.  I
> figured this crowd probably knows about as much about Outlook as
anybody so
> I'm hoping you can help.
> 
> I have several users that connect with Outlook 2003 to a non-exchange
mail
> server via POP/SMTP.  Outlook has the latest patches.  They frequently
have
> mail get hung up in their outbox.  Sometimes exiting Outlook and
restarting
> it will get the messages to go out.  Sometimes deleting them and
resending
> will do the job.  Does anyone know of a fix for this?
> These people are getting desperate.  Thanks for any help you can
provide.
> 
> Curt Finley
> 
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> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question

[Michael B. Smith]

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300479

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
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-Original Message-
From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question

I couldn't find a protocol debugging feature.  Are you talking about the
errors tab under the details section of the send/receive window?

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:29 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> 
> Turn on protocol debugging to figure out where it's getting hung up.
> 
> I use Outlook with quite a number of non-Microsoft accounts (and did
when I
> was using Outlook 2003 as well).
> 
> When using non-beta Outlook versions, I don't think I've ever seen
this be
> Outlook's fault.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
> I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:08 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> 
> Sorry for the off topic post that has nothing to do with exchange.  I
> figured this crowd probably knows about as much about Outlook as
anybody
> so I'm hoping you can help.
> 
> I have several users that connect with Outlook 2003 to a non-exchange
> mail server via POP/SMTP.  Outlook has the latest patches.  They
> frequently have mail get hung up in their outbox.  Sometimes exiting
> Outlook and restarting it will get the messages to go out.  Sometimes
> deleting them and resending will do the job.  Does anyone know of a
fix
> for this?
> These people are getting desperate.  Thanks for any help you can
> provide.
> 
> Curt Finley
> 
> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
> 
> 
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RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question

[Jim Dandy]

Before my first post on this issue I created a new pst and assigned it
to be the location for delivery.  I left the other PSTs in the profile.
She already had two so now she has three.  The problem continues with
the new pst.  I wouldn't think a corrupt pst that was not the delivery
pst would cause this would you?

> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Szabo [mailto:steve...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:53 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> 
> First, run SCANPST. Run as many times as needed to come up clean. Note
that
> if you copy the PST prior to running SCANPST, you can skip the backup
step,
> if a repair is required, which takes a ridiculous amount of time.
> 
> If SCANPST fails to bring joy, create a new profile.
> 
> \\Steve//
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:08 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject: OT: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> >
> > Sorry for the off topic post that has nothing to do with exchange.
I
> > figured this crowd probably knows about as much about Outlook as
anybody
> > so I'm hoping you can help.
> >
> > I have several users that connect with Outlook 2003 to a
non-exchange
> > mail server via POP/SMTP.  Outlook has the latest patches.  They
> > frequently have mail get hung up in their outbox.  Sometimes exiting
> > Outlook and restarting it will get the messages to go out.
Sometimes
> > deleting them and resending will do the job.  Does anyone know of a
fix
> > for this?
> > These people are getting desperate.  Thanks for any help you can
> > provide.
> >
> > Curt Finley
> >
> 
> 
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RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question

[Jim Dandy]

I couldn't find a protocol debugging feature.  Are you talking about the
errors tab under the details section of the send/receive window?

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:29 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> 
> Turn on protocol debugging to figure out where it's getting hung up.
> 
> I use Outlook with quite a number of non-Microsoft accounts (and did
when I
> was using Outlook 2003 as well).
> 
> When using non-beta Outlook versions, I don't think I've ever seen
this be
> Outlook's fault.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
> I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:08 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> 
> Sorry for the off topic post that has nothing to do with exchange.  I
> figured this crowd probably knows about as much about Outlook as
anybody
> so I'm hoping you can help.
> 
> I have several users that connect with Outlook 2003 to a non-exchange
> mail server via POP/SMTP.  Outlook has the latest patches.  They
> frequently have mail get hung up in their outbox.  Sometimes exiting
> Outlook and restarting it will get the messages to go out.  Sometimes
> deleting them and resending will do the job.  Does anyone know of a
fix
> for this?
> These people are getting desperate.  Thanks for any help you can
> provide.
> 
> Curt Finley
> 
> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
> 
> 
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RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question

[William Lefkovics]

All users?  A few?  New profiles?

Do you have control of the POP3 server? If it is a lot of users, then I
would be looking at the server and troubleshooting POP from there first.

You could use a packet sniffer to view the POP3 conversations to see where
they fail.
You could enable logging in Outlook:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA011742661033.aspx
It sucks because it is just an on/off switch, there is no granular control.
Also the logs are just plain text so delete them off the workstation you run
logging on.



-Original Message-
From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Outlook POP/SMTP question

Sorry for the off topic post that has nothing to do with exchange.  I
figured this crowd probably knows about as much about Outlook as anybody so
I'm hoping you can help.

I have several users that connect with Outlook 2003 to a non-exchange mail
server via POP/SMTP.  Outlook has the latest patches.  They frequently have
mail get hung up in their outbox.  Sometimes exiting Outlook and restarting
it will get the messages to go out.  Sometimes deleting them and resending
will do the job.  Does anyone know of a fix for this?
These people are getting desperate.  Thanks for any help you can provide.

Curt Finley

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RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question

[Steve Szabo]

First, run SCANPST. Run as many times as needed to come up clean. Note that
if you copy the PST prior to running SCANPST, you can skip the backup step,
if a repair is required, which takes a ridiculous amount of time.

If SCANPST fails to bring joy, create a new profile.

\\Steve// 

> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:08 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Outlook POP/SMTP question
> 
> Sorry for the off topic post that has nothing to do with exchange.  I
> figured this crowd probably knows about as much about Outlook as anybody
> so I'm hoping you can help.
> 
> I have several users that connect with Outlook 2003 to a non-exchange
> mail server via POP/SMTP.  Outlook has the latest patches.  They
> frequently have mail get hung up in their outbox.  Sometimes exiting
> Outlook and restarting it will get the messages to go out.  Sometimes
> deleting them and resending will do the job.  Does anyone know of a fix
> for this?
> These people are getting desperate.  Thanks for any help you can
> provide.
> 
> Curt Finley
> 


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RE: Outlook POP/SMTP question

[Michael B. Smith]

Turn on protocol debugging to figure out where it's getting hung up.

I use Outlook with quite a number of non-Microsoft accounts (and did when I
was using Outlook 2003 as well). 

When using non-beta Outlook versions, I don't think I've ever seen this be
Outlook's fault.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php


-Original Message-
From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Outlook POP/SMTP question

Sorry for the off topic post that has nothing to do with exchange.  I
figured this crowd probably knows about as much about Outlook as anybody
so I'm hoping you can help.

I have several users that connect with Outlook 2003 to a non-exchange
mail server via POP/SMTP.  Outlook has the latest patches.  They
frequently have mail get hung up in their outbox.  Sometimes exiting
Outlook and restarting it will get the messages to go out.  Sometimes
deleting them and resending will do the job.  Does anyone know of a fix
for this?
These people are getting desperate.  Thanks for any help you can
provide.

Curt Finley

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OT: Outlook POP/SMTP question

[Jim Dandy]

Sorry for the off topic post that has nothing to do with exchange.  I
figured this crowd probably knows about as much about Outlook as anybody
so I'm hoping you can help.

I have several users that connect with Outlook 2003 to a non-exchange
mail server via POP/SMTP.  Outlook has the latest patches.  They
frequently have mail get hung up in their outbox.  Sometimes exiting
Outlook and restarting it will get the messages to go out.  Sometimes
deleting them and resending will do the job.  Does anyone know of a fix
for this?
These people are getting desperate.  Thanks for any help you can
provide.

Curt Finley

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RE: Issues combining the usual email domain with POP

[Steve Szabo]

How large is [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s> 's mailbox? This
sounds like an issue I see from time to time with POP clients. The run
through the mailbox does not finish, for one reason or another, so when the
next run starts, Outlook starts at the beginning again downloading all the
messages to the user's PST file. Now, mind you, I've never seen it to this
extent, but I have seen it. If the user's mailbox does have the 12,000+
mails in it, the scenario described above is what is happening. If you allow
OWA access, have the user go up via OWA, and clean out those messages.
Eventually, the mailbox will get to the size or a bad message will be
removed, and the next POP run will pick up, then delete, all the remaining
messages.

 

\\Steve// 

 

From: Jeff Gottlieb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Issues combining the usual email domain with POP

 

Using Exchange 2003 we have combined the usual domain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with
POP. For e.g., we have some of the same users doing business overseas using
a different domain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) pointing to the same Exchange
server.albeit the Outlook client is configured using POP...again alongside
Exchange.  We now have an interesting phenomenon where the POP is
downloading 12,000+ messages in over 1.89GB, again and again.

The POP configuration is NOT set to "Leave a copy of messages on the server"

Does anyone know where these POP emails reside.that we might manually delete
them? What are we painfully overlooking??  Cheers.  -Jeff

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Issues combining the usual email domain with POP

[Jeff Gottlieb]

Using Exchange 2003 we have combined the usual domain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with 
POP. For e.g., we have some of the same users doing business overseas using a 
different domain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) pointing to the same Exchange 
server.albeit the Outlook client is configured using POP...again alongside 
Exchange.  We now have an interesting phenomenon where the POP is downloading 
12,000+ messages in over 1.89GB, again and again.
The POP configuration is NOT set to "Leave a copy of messages on the server"
Does anyone know where these POP emails reside.that we might manually delete 
them? What are we painfully overlooking??  Cheers.  -Jeff

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Re: OT - Windows Server 2003 R2 POP Server

[Steven Peck]

Mail Enable
http://www.mailenable.com/

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Michael B. Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Xmailserver, hmailserver, and smartermail all have free versions of their
> packages that support pop3.
>
>
>
> I can't remember the user counts that come into play though.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> From: Jason Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:11 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: OT - Windows Server 2003 R2 POP Server
>
>
>
> Sorry for the OT. I have a small client that has SBS 2003 R2.  They have the
> need to host about 200 POP mailboxes for their members, but this would
> obviously violate the SBS licensing agreement.
>
>
>
> So, my thought is the built in Windows Server 2003 POP Server (they have
> another server on their LAN).  Does anyone know how many users this service
> supports?  Also, does using this in a Local File authentication method
> require CALs?
>
>
>
> Any other suggestions for low cost/no cost POP3 server solutions that run on
> Windows?
>
>
>
> Jason Tierney, MCSE
>
> Vice President, Consulting Services
>
> tel: 240.425.4441
>
> fax: 301.349.2518
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: OT - Windows Server 2003 R2 POP Server

[Michael B. Smith]

Xmailserver, hmailserver, and smartermail all have free versions of their
packages that support pop3.

 

I can't remember the user counts that come into play though.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Jason Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT - Windows Server 2003 R2 POP Server

 

Sorry for the OT. I have a small client that has SBS 2003 R2.  They have the
need to host about 200 POP mailboxes for their members, but this would
obviously violate the SBS licensing agreement.

 

So, my thought is the built in Windows Server 2003 POP Server (they have
another server on their LAN).  Does anyone know how many users this service
supports?  Also, does using this in a Local File authentication method
require CALs?

 

Any other suggestions for low cost/no cost POP3 server solutions that run on
Windows?

 

Jason Tierney, MCSE

Vice President, Consulting Services

tel: 240.425.4441

fax: 301.349.2518

 

 


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OT - Windows Server 2003 R2 POP Server

[Jason Tierney]

Sorry for the OT. I have a small client that has SBS 2003 R2.  They have the 
need to host about 200 POP mailboxes for their members, but this would 
obviously violate the SBS licensing agreement.

So, my thought is the built in Windows Server 2003 POP Server (they have 
another server on their LAN).  Does anyone know how many users this service 
supports?  Also, does using this in a Local File authentication method require 
CALs?

Any other suggestions for low cost/no cost POP3 server solutions that run on 
Windows?

Jason Tierney, MCSE
Vice President, Consulting Services
tel: 240.425.4441
fax: 301.349.2518

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R: OT Outlook POP Error 0X8004210A

[HELP_PC]

Googling the error you may find a lot of other reasons . Not only Norton
Blaming Symantec for everything don't help
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

  _  

Da: Steve Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 4 luglio 2008 4.31
A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: OT Outlook POP Error 0X8004210A



If Norton A/V was ever installed on those machines, get and run the Symantec 
Removal Tool to ensure that Norton is completely removed. When Norton 
uninstalls, it leaves your machine littered with parts of itself that can 
affect many things, most particularly Outlook.

 

\\Steve// 

 

From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT Outlook POP Error 0X8004210A

 

All, sorry for the OT, I have a groups of four people who's pop email all 
stopped working about a week ago. When they send/receive the error in the 
subject comes up. Google reveals that this is due to Norton/McAffee blocking 
Outlook. In this case Norton is not installed, they are using AVG. I have had 
one of them turn off Windows Firewall and stop the AVG services and they still 
get the error. From a command window they can telnet to the mail server on port 
110 and login, list, retrieve etc.

 

If I had hair I would be pulling it out, and was wondering if anyone has any 
experience of this and can give me a few pointers.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Clayton

 


 


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RE: OT Outlook POP Error 0X8004210A

[Steve Szabo]

If Norton A/V was ever installed on those machines, get and run the Symantec
Removal Tool to ensure that Norton is completely removed. When Norton
uninstalls, it leaves your machine littered with parts of itself that can
affect many things, most particularly Outlook.

 

\\Steve// 

 

From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT Outlook POP Error 0X8004210A

 

All, sorry for the OT, I have a groups of four people who's pop email all
stopped working about a week ago. When they send/receive the error in the
subject comes up. Google reveals that this is due to Norton/McAffee blocking
Outlook. In this case Norton is not installed, they are using AVG. I have
had one of them turn off Windows Firewall and stop the AVG services and they
still get the error. From a command window they can telnet to the mail
server on port 110 and login, list, retrieve etc.

 

If I had hair I would be pulling it out, and was wondering if anyone has any
experience of this and can give me a few pointers.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Clayton

 


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Re: OT Outlook POP Error 0X8004210A

[Steve Ens]

Can you POP into those accounts with a different client (gmail or
something)?

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Clayton Doige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> All, sorry for the OT, I have a groups of four people who's pop email all
> stopped working about a week ago. When they send/receive the error in the
> subject comes up. Google reveals that this is due to Norton/McAffee blocking
> Outlook. In this case Norton is not installed, they are using AVG. I have
> had one of them turn off Windows Firewall and stop the AVG services and they
> still get the error. From a command window they can telnet to the mail
> server on port 110 and login, list, retrieve etc.
>
> If I had hair I would be pulling it out, and was wondering if anyone has
> any experience of this and can give me a few pointers.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Clayton
>
>
>

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RE: OT Outlook POP Error 0X8004210A

[Jason Gurtz]

> Subject: OT Outlook POP Error 0X8004210A
> 
> All, sorry for the OT, I have a groups of four people who's pop email
> all stopped working about a week ago. When they send/receive the error
> in the subject comes up.

We've had bizarre errors with POP also (thankfully we're 100% exchange
now).

Just in general, it's worth noting that POP/IMAP functionality in Outlook
is in actuality handled by Outlook Express dlls.  You can uninstall the AV
to see if it really is that.  Next thing to try is a reinstall of
IE/Outlook Express and see if that fixes it if there is a corruption or
missing dlls.  A little googling should turn up instructions on how to do
that.

~JasonG

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OT Outlook POP Error 0X8004210A

[Clayton Doige]

All, sorry for the OT, I have a groups of four people who's pop email all
stopped working about a week ago. When they send/receive the error in the
subject comes up. Google reveals that this is due to Norton/McAffee blocking
Outlook. In this case Norton is not installed, they are using AVG. I have
had one of them turn off Windows Firewall and stop the AVG services and they
still get the error. From a command window they can telnet to the mail
server on port 110 and login, list, retrieve etc.

If I had hair I would be pulling it out, and was wondering if anyone has any
experience of this and can give me a few pointers.

Thanks in advance

Clayton

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R: R: Questions regarding SBS2003 POP 3 connector.

[HELP_PC]

I think there is no way
I use third party pop connector (popbeamer) and is more flexible . You may 
leave mail on the pop server how long you want(according to the space dedicated 
by the ISP)
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

  _  

Da: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: martedì 4 marzo 2008 21.15
A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Oggetto: Re: R: Questions regarding SBS2003 POP 3 connector.


They originally had [EMAIL PROTECTED] on each individual user account, and the 
pop connector configured with 3 user accounts each one assigned to an Exchange 
user.

Which I have left.

After Exchange SP2 was applied then the logs showed that mail was being 
downloaded and supposedly passed to the user account then the next event log 
showed that the mail wass rejected due to relaying restrictions.

I added popbox.com to the recipient policy and now mail is coming in fine and 
going to the users mailboxes.

But the server must have downloaded mail from thursday all over the weekend, 
till today, as the users pop boxes at the isp were empty, so my question is 
where does this mail go?
Is it just vanished and no way of retrieving it??

Thanks

GRaeme



On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 6:05 PM, HELP_PC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The mail dosn't go out the categorizer unless you add popbox.com to the 
recipient , if you want the mail to be delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

  _  

Da: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: martedì 4 marzo 2008 16.02
A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Oggetto: Questions regarding SBS2003 POP 3 connector.


I have just been to visit someone, who having fallen for the hype purchased a 
DELL Server with SBS 2003 R2 preinstalled and thought they could go about 
setting it up themselves using the wizzards etc.

I was called in today to try and fix the issues that they have created.

All in all they have done a not too bad a job, but maid a bit of a boo boo with 
the e-mail setup.

They currently have pop 3 of the following format [EMAIL PROTECTED], but are 
planning to move to an smtp feed with their own domain, i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

They ran the Internet wizard and setup the Exchange domain as domain.co.uk, 
with the AD domain as domain.local all well and good i hear you say.

But of course when they configured the POP connector, it appears to initially 
have just vanished any incoming mail into thin air, and since yesterday after 
installing Exchange 2003 SP2, it now reposrts in the event viewer that any mail 
retrieved by the pop connector was not delivered to the mail box due to relay 
restrictions.

Added domain.co.uk to the recipient policy and mail is working fine.

The question of course is where did the mail that vanished go???

I am not familiar with the process of the pop3 connector, mainly with how it 
handles the mail flow.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Graeme



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Re: R: Questions regarding SBS2003 POP 3 connector.

[Graeme Carstairs]

They originally had [EMAIL PROTECTED] on each individual user account, and the
pop connector configured with 3 user accounts each one assigned to an
Exchange user.

Which I have left.

After Exchange SP2 was applied then the logs showed that mail was being
downloaded and supposedly passed to the user account then the next event log
showed that the mail wass rejected due to relaying restrictions.

I added popbox.com to the recipient policy and now mail is coming in fine
and going to the users mailboxes.

But the server must have downloaded mail from thursday all over the weekend,
till today, as the users pop boxes at the isp were empty, so my question is
where does this mail go?
Is it just vanished and no way of retrieving it??

Thanks

GRaeme


On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 6:05 PM, HELP_PC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  The mail dosn't go out the categorizer unless you add popbox.com to the
> recipient , if you want the mail to be delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> *GuidoElia*
> *HELPPC*
>
>
>  --
> *Da:* Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Inviato:* martedì 4 marzo 2008 16.02
> *A:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Oggetto:* Questions regarding SBS2003 POP 3 connector.
>
> I have just been to visit someone, who having fallen for the hype
> purchased a DELL Server with SBS 2003 R2 preinstalled and thought they could
> go about setting it up themselves using the wizzards etc.
>
> I was called in today to try and fix the issues that they have created.
>
> All in all they have done a not too bad a job, but maid a bit of a boo boo
> with the e-mail setup.
>
> They currently have pop 3 of the following format [EMAIL PROTECTED], but are
> planning to move to an smtp feed with their own domain, i.e.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> They ran the Internet wizard and setup the Exchange domain as domain.co.uk,
> with the AD domain as domain.local all well and good i hear you say.
>
> But of course when they configured the POP connector, it appears to
> initially have just vanished any incoming mail into thin air, and since
> yesterday after installing Exchange 2003 SP2, it now reposrts in the event
> viewer that any mail retrieved by the pop connector was not delivered to the
> mail box due to relay restrictions.
>
> Added domain.co.uk to the recipient policy and mail is working fine.
>
> The question of course is where did the mail that vanished go???
>
> I am not familiar with the process of the pop3 connector, mainly with how
> it handles the mail flow.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
>
> --
> "Good News Everyone, you just received an e-mail from me."
>
>
>
>
>



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RE: Questions regarding SBS2003 POP 3 connector.

[gsweers]

The official answer about the 15 mins on the pop3 is no.  Here is a link
to bypass it.

 

The main reason to leave it at 15 minutes is to allow the server to
download all the mail before it tries again to process downloading mail.
If you have a high level of mail flow you may not want to lower it.  If
its just a few and not large attachments then you could do this.

 

http://sbits.blogspot.com/2007/09/pop3-connector-downloadthread-less-tha
n.html

 

From: Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Questions regarding SBS2003 POP 3 connector.

 

Graeme:

You're in luck - I just finished setting up my POP3 connector this
morning.  Is the POP3 connector set up for Global Mailbox?  If it isn't
you need to set it up for Global Mailbox and make sure that you have
Exchange Mailboxes for all the users.

Example - I have a mailbox called [EMAIL PROTECTED] at my mail
host.  All "undeliverable" mail goes to that account.  Then the POP3
connnector connects to that drop box, pulls in all the mail, and then
looks at the To: and CC: fields to put it in the appropriate mailboxes
on the SBS server.

My problem with it not working, is that I spelled the POP3 account name
wrong! DOH!

On a similiar note - does anyone know if there is a way to change the
POP3 Connector's schedule.  As it stands, the shortest time between
checks is 15 minutes, and I'd like to get it down to 5 minutes between
checks.  Can that be changed in the registry maybe?

HTH.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Graeme Carstairs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I have just been to visit someone, who having fallen for the hype
purchased a DELL Server with SBS 2003 R2 preinstalled and thought they
could go about setting it up themselves using the wizzards etc.

I was called in today to try and fix the issues that they have created.

All in all they have done a not too bad a job, but maid a bit of a boo
boo with the e-mail setup.

They currently have pop 3 of the following format [EMAIL PROTECTED], but
are planning to move to an smtp feed with their own domain, i.e.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

They ran the Internet wizard and setup the Exchange domain as
domain.co.uk, with the AD domain as domain.local all well and good i
hear you say.

But of course when they configured the POP connector, it appears to
initially have just vanished any incoming mail into thin air, and since
yesterday after installing Exchange 2003 SP2, it now reposrts in the
event viewer that any mail retrieved by the pop connector was not
delivered to the mail box due to relay restrictions.

Added domain.co.uk to the recipient policy and mail is working fine.

The question of course is where did the mail that vanished go???

I am not familiar with the process of the pop3 connector, mainly with
how it handles the mail flow.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Graeme



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R: Questions regarding SBS2003 POP 3 connector.

[HELP_PC]

The mail dosn't go out the categorizer unless you add popbox.com to the 
recipient , if you want the mail to be delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

  _  

Da: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: martedì 4 marzo 2008 16.02
A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Oggetto: Questions regarding SBS2003 POP 3 connector.


I have just been to visit someone, who having fallen for the hype purchased a 
DELL Server with SBS 2003 R2 preinstalled and thought they could go about 
setting it up themselves using the wizzards etc.

I was called in today to try and fix the issues that they have created.

All in all they have done a not too bad a job, but maid a bit of a boo boo with 
the e-mail setup.

They currently have pop 3 of the following format [EMAIL PROTECTED], but are 
planning to move to an smtp feed with their own domain, i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

They ran the Internet wizard and setup the Exchange domain as domain.co.uk, 
with the AD domain as domain.local all well and good i hear you say.

But of course when they configured the POP connector, it appears to initially 
have just vanished any incoming mail into thin air, and since yesterday after 
installing Exchange 2003 SP2, it now reposrts in the event viewer that any mail 
retrieved by the pop connector was not delivered to the mail box due to relay 
restrictions.

Added domain.co.uk to the recipient policy and mail is working fine.

The question of course is where did the mail that vanished go???

I am not familiar with the process of the pop3 connector, mainly with how it 
handles the mail flow.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Graeme



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Re: Questions regarding SBS2003 POP 3 connector.

[Joe Fox]

Graeme:

You're in luck - I just finished setting up my POP3 connector this morning.
Is the POP3 connector set up for Global Mailbox?  If it isn't you need to
set it up for Global Mailbox and make sure that you have Exchange Mailboxes
for all the users.

Example - I have a mailbox called [EMAIL PROTECTED] at my mail host.
All "undeliverable" mail goes to that account.  Then the POP3 connnector
connects to that drop box, pulls in all the mail, and then looks at the To:
and CC: fields to put it in the appropriate mailboxes on the SBS server.

My problem with it not working, is that I spelled the POP3 account name
wrong! DOH!

On a similiar note - does anyone know if there is a way to change the POP3
Connector's schedule.  As it stands, the shortest time between checks is 15
minutes, and I'd like to get it down to 5 minutes between checks.  Can that
be changed in the registry maybe?

HTH.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Graeme Carstairs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I have just been to visit someone, who having fallen for the hype
> purchased a DELL Server with SBS 2003 R2 preinstalled and thought they could
> go about setting it up themselves using the wizzards etc.
>
> I was called in today to try and fix the issues that they have created.
>
> All in all they have done a not too bad a job, but maid a bit of a boo boo
> with the e-mail setup.
>
> They currently have pop 3 of the following format [EMAIL PROTECTED], but are
> planning to move to an smtp feed with their own domain, i.e.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> They ran the Internet wizard and setup the Exchange domain as domain.co.uk,
> with the AD domain as domain.local all well and good i hear you say.
>
> But of course when they configured the POP connector, it appears to
> initially have just vanished any incoming mail into thin air, and since
> yesterday after installing Exchange 2003 SP2, it now reposrts in the event
> viewer that any mail retrieved by the pop connector was not delivered to the
> mail box due to relay restrictions.
>
> Added domain.co.uk to the recipient policy and mail is working fine.
>
> The question of course is where did the mail that vanished go???
>
> I am not familiar with the process of the pop3 connector, mainly with how
> it handles the mail flow.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
>
> --
> "Good News Everyone, you just received an e-mail from me."
>
>
>



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Questions regarding SBS2003 POP 3 connector.

[Graeme Carstairs]

I have just been to visit someone, who having fallen for the hype purchased
a DELL Server with SBS 2003 R2 preinstalled and thought they could go about
setting it up themselves using the wizzards etc.

I was called in today to try and fix the issues that they have created.

All in all they have done a not too bad a job, but maid a bit of a boo boo
with the e-mail setup.

They currently have pop 3 of the following format [EMAIL PROTECTED], but are
planning to move to an smtp feed with their own domain, i.e.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

They ran the Internet wizard and setup the Exchange domain as domain.co.uk,
with the AD domain as domain.local all well and good i hear you say.

But of course when they configured the POP connector, it appears to
initially have just vanished any incoming mail into thin air, and since
yesterday after installing Exchange 2003 SP2, it now reposrts in the event
viewer that any mail retrieved by the pop connector was not delivered to the
mail box due to relay restrictions.

Added domain.co.uk to the recipient policy and mail is working fine.

The question of course is where did the mail that vanished go???

I am not familiar with the process of the pop3 connector, mainly with how it
handles the mail flow.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Graeme



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RE: Troubleshooting POP

[HELP_PC]

 
Or use third party pop3 connector like popbeamer 
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

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Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 29 febbraio 2008 2.24
A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Troubleshooting POP



http://support.microsoft.com/kb/873438

 

Might want to reapply sp?  Says it resolved with latest SP.  Dated Oct 07.

 

From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Troubleshooting POP

 

 

 

 

My pop3 connector which we use for a handful of remote users seems to be 
locking up every day or so. It says its running but if I goto logon to it 
manually it just hangs after I put the password in. I can stop it, and restart 
it in exchange mgr and it will work again for some period of time. Nothing in 
event logs shows me anything. Occassionally, when I do stop it I will get a 
timeout error but even then the logs don't show anything reporting. 

 

You think the easiest thing is to simply drop the latest SP on there again? Or 
is there something else I can look for?

 

Small environment @ 50 users, they pull their mail from corporate via pop3 
(don't get me started) with a pop3 connector so maybe that's causing the issue 
but I use popcon in a few places and never seen any problems with it. Then they 
have a small subset of about 6 users who need pop mail to their phones when 
they are out of the office. 

 

Thx

 

 


 


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RE: Troubleshooting POP

[gsweers]

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/873438

 

Might want to reapply sp?  Says it resolved with latest SP.  Dated Oct
07.

 

From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Troubleshooting POP

 

 

 

 

My pop3 connector which we use for a handful of remote users seems to be
locking up every day or so. It says its running but if I goto logon to
it manually it just hangs after I put the password in. I can stop it,
and restart it in exchange mgr and it will work again for some period of
time. Nothing in event logs shows me anything. Occassionally, when I do
stop it I will get a timeout error but even then the logs don't show
anything reporting. 

 

You think the easiest thing is to simply drop the latest SP on there
again? Or is there something else I can look for?

 

Small environment @ 50 users, they pull their mail from corporate via
pop3 (don't get me started) with a pop3 connector so maybe that's
causing the issue but I use popcon in a few places and never seen any
problems with it. Then they have a small subset of about 6 users who
need pop mail to their phones when they are out of the office. 

 

Thx

 

 


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Troubleshooting POP

[Benjamin Zachary]

 

 

 

My pop3 connector which we use for a handful of remote users seems to be
locking up every day or so. It says its running but if I goto logon to it
manually it just hangs after I put the password in. I can stop it, and
restart it in exchange mgr and it will work again for some period of time.
Nothing in event logs shows me anything. Occassionally, when I do stop it I
will get a timeout error but even then the logs don't show anything
reporting. 

 

You think the easiest thing is to simply drop the latest SP on there again?
Or is there something else I can look for?

 

Small environment @ 50 users, they pull their mail from corporate via pop3
(don't get me started) with a pop3 connector so maybe that's causing the
issue but I use popcon in a few places and never seen any problems with it.
Then they have a small subset of about 6 users who need pop mail to their
phones when they are out of the office. 

 

Thx


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POP account in Exchange environment

[Scott Burgin]

We have an all NT 4 domain with a 5.5 exchange server.  We have a few pop
accounts set up for a few people.  I've tried to add another one, but with
no luck.  Is there some sort of static mapping that has to be set up from
the client to the exchange server before it will work?

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

Re: Save password setting not saved when connecting to POP 3 svr

[Erik Olson]

Zachary, the issue is the first. You check the check box, but later it is
clear. If you click OK to the dialog box asking for the password, it
works. From the MS KB article, it sounds like some sort of security on the
protected password store. Sounds like the two issues may be related.

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

Re: Save password setting not saved when connecting to POP 3 svr

[Zachary McCullough]

Erik,
  Is the issue that you check the check box to retain password, and then 
later it is clear?
-or-
  Is the issue that you check the check box to retain password, and the box 
remains checked but Outlook won't send the password and it prompts you for 
it?

In the last two weeks I have run into 2 similar things to this (no solutions 
yet)

1) Outlook EXPRESS - the check box stays checked but prompts for password 
exen though the password is entered correctly in the Server Tab. Only one 
account involed here.

2) Outlook EXPRES - the check box stays checked but the login fails. Click 
send receive right away and it works the second time.  This occurs on the 
second account connecting to the same POP3 server.

hope this helps jog something for someone,
Zack

>Has anyone had any experience with this problem? It seems to exist
>whenever you create a second email account profile in Outlook 2002 and
>that account checks for mail on the same POP3 server as your first
>account. (We are checking email addresses from different domains hosted on
>the same POP3 server.)
>
>Microsoft has a KB article on it (Q290684), but the instructions don't
>make sense under W2K Pro. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
>List Charter and FAQ at:
>http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
>




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Save password setting not saved when connecting to POP 3 svr

[Erik Olson]

Has anyone had any experience with this problem? It seems to exist
whenever you create a second email account profile in Outlook 2002 and
that account checks for mail on the same POP3 server as your first
account. (We are checking email addresses from different domains hosted on
the same POP3 server.)

Microsoft has a KB article on it (Q290684), but the instructions don't
make sense under W2K Pro. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: POP mail

[msharik]

2)  remove the SMTP 
address from the mailbox & mail sent to that address will 
NDR
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-Original Message-From: Steve Ens 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:17 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: POP 
mail

Greetings
I have just rolled out our Exchange 
5.5 sp4 server on Windows 2000 (member server).  Everything is running fine.  The two things I cannot find any info on 
are:
    
1)When retrieving mail remotely using POP mail, 
the users can only use Outlook Express.  
Outlook does not work using the exact settings (including SPA).  Is there a setting on the Exchange 
server I need to change?  

    
2)When I get mail in to people who are no longer 
working here (no mailbox), is there a way I can have a message sent back or 
refused?  Some people sign up for so 
many lists, etc and get so much spam that I want to 
filter that out.  

Thanks
Steve
 
Steve 
Ens 
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POP mail

[Steve Ens]

Greetings

I have just rolled out our Exchange 5.5 sp4 server on
Windows 2000 (member server). 
Everything is running fine. 
The two things I cannot find any info on are:

    1)When retrieving mail remotely using POP mail, the users
can only use Outlook Express.  Outlook
does not work using the exact settings (including SPA).  Is there a setting on the Exchange
server I need to change?  

    2)When I get mail in to people who are no longer working
here (no mailbox), is there a way I can have a message sent back or
refused?  Some people sign up for so
many lists, etc and get so much spam that I want to
filter that out.  

Thanks

Steve

 

Steve
Ens 

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Technolgist

APTN

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RE: Occasionally a user's old appointment reminders will pop up

[Ian Kelly]

I think the /cleansomethingorother switch would be much more useful

Ian

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which a procedure can go wrong and circumvent these, then a fifth way,
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-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: October 25, 2001 16:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Occasionally a user's old appointment reminders will pop up


Perhaps open Outlook with the /cleansomethingorother switch.

Just a sec.

/cleanreminders

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+


-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Occasionally a user's old appointment reminders will pop up


We have an Exchange 5.5/SP3 server, and our users are all running
Outlook 2000/SR1.  Once in a while, one of our users will suddenly have
his/her appointment reminders from several months back, pop up.  This
fills his/her screen with literally dozens of overlaid reminder pop-up
windows, most from appointments that have been disposed of.  

Does anyone have a clue on what might be causing this?

TIA

Bob Peitzke


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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: Occasionally a user's old appointment reminders will pop up

[Lefkovics, William]

Perhaps open Outlook with the /cleansomethingorother switch.

Just a sec.

/cleanreminders

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+


-Original Message-
From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Occasionally a user's old appointment reminders will pop up


We have an Exchange 5.5/SP3 server, and our users are all running Outlook
2000/SR1.  Once in a while, one of our users will suddenly have his/her
appointment reminders from several months back, pop up.  This fills his/her
screen with literally dozens of overlaid reminder pop-up windows, most from
appointments that have been disposed of.  

Does anyone have a clue on what might be causing this?

TIA

Bob Peitzke


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

Occasionally a user's old appointment reminders will pop up

[Bob Peitzke]

We have an Exchange 5.5/SP3 server, and our users are all running Outlook
2000/SR1.  Once in a while, one of our users will suddenly have his/her
appointment reminders from several months back, pop up.  This fills his/her
screen with literally dozens of overlaid reminder pop-up windows, most from
appointments that have been disposed of.  

Does anyone have a clue on what might be causing this?

TIA

Bob Peitzke


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: pop mail

[msharik]

I am.  :-)

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-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


Are you saying, it's not the size of your 'shop', but what you do with it
that counts?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 8:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


There is information here:  <http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm>
about why POP connectors for Exchange are crap.

You say "It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years
so I'm comfortable with the product."  That's like saying, "I've run with
scissors for 20 years & have never gotten hurt, so I'm comfortable running
with them now."  

Why make your Exchange server behave like a client rather than a server?  If
your ISP won't do ETRN, have your mail hosted by someone who will, or get a
full-time internet connection & do your mail yourself.

PS:  Being a "small shop" is NOT an excuse.  My company is a small shop.  We
NEVER used a POP connector for Exchange - we used ETRN from our ISP before
we had a full-time internet connection.  Now that we have a FT connection,
we do our own email (with 2ndary MX support from ed-com.com).  Size of shop
is NEVER an excuse for doing things the wrong way.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
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-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years so I'm
comfortable with the product. Agree that ETRN is the better solution and
have implemented as I can in the offices where the hosting partner supports
it.

On a side note, I sent an email to your contact at ed-com.com and never got
a response.

Thanks for the response.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

Well, if by "it does work" you mean "it does work when it does work, but
doesn't when it doesn't", that's the part I'm disagreeing with.

The reason for its use is silly too, but I understand that.  But finding a
provider that supports ETRN (ed-com.com comes to mind) is a better solution.

Missy
- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Which part don't you agree with - the fact that it does work or the reason
for it's use?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

They're crap.  William is correct.

- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Don't know what products you have used but my experience with POP3Gateway
from JAK has been much different. There are some drawbacks, but blanket BCC
is not one of them. The only issue I have ever had, and still have is a
message delivered BCC to a DL, will end up as a NDR. However, I was able to
overcome that by setting up a remap file that says if the recipient in the
TO or CC field, remap the mail to person [EMAIL PROTECTED] If that
rule fails, all NDR's (very few) are delivered to one person in the
organization who will forward or delete (mostly sales BS).

Bottom line - not all POP3 connectors are crap. It depends on the situation
and the requirements. Just as some companies

RE: pop mail

[Micciche Robert]

Search for "Mail to Exchange".

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 8:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


POP3Gateway from JAK (www.jak.com).
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original Message-
From: Gary Gregg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 8:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: pop mail
 
  Hi all does anyone know any pop 3 collectors for exchange ive tried popcon
but is there any others??
 
Thanks Gary Gregg
 

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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
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RE: pop mail

[msharik]

special Bausch&Lombe Outlook COM add-in

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-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


How did you remove Contacts?  Isn't that a special folder?  Did you use the
Exchange client?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


My words are offensive???::removes contacts, cleans them, puts them back
in, re-reads my email::

Um, how are they offensive??  I didn't curse; I didn't resort to
name-calling; I didn't even get too worked up.  I also didn't mention
anything about viral infection.

I'm interested in knowing what was so offensive about that & if you thought
*that* was offensive, you must *really* think Don Ely's posts are
offensive!!  [1]


[1] Hi, Don!  *Hug*

-Michèle
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Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
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-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


Your words are offensive so I will try not to respond in kind.

Not all ISP's support ERTN. Not all offices have a domain or are interested
in a domain. Exchange does not require a domain and a lot of shops don't
have them. In order to get mail you make the choice:

1. Have all clients use POP mail and you take the RISK of infection as the
mail gets to the client BEFORE the mail gets into Exchange.
2. Use a POP connector on the server, scan mail before it gets to the client
and control the outbreaks.

You can preach all you want on your opinion of the connectors but there are
valid reasons to use them. 

Would I do the same thing today as has been done in the last few years, no.
Would I today deploy a POP connector today with the other tools available,
only as a last resort. Do I subscribe to the catchall phrase - all POP
connectors are crap. NO.

Your opinion differs, so we agree to disagree.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

There is information here:  <http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm>
about why POP connectors for Exchange are crap.

You say "It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years
so I'm comfortable with the product."  That's like saying, "I've run with
scissors for 20 years & have never gotten hurt, so I'm comfortable running
with them now." 

Why make your Exchange server behave like a client rather than a server?  If
your ISP won't do ETRN, have your mail hosted by someone who will, or get a
full-time internet connection & do your mail yourself.

PS:  Being a "small shop" is NOT an excuse.  My company is a small shop.  We
NEVER used a POP connector for Exchange - we used ETRN from our ISP before
we had a full-time internet connection.  Now that we have a FT connection,
we do our own email (with 2ndary MX support from ed-com.com).  Size of shop
is NEVER an excuse for doing things the wrong way.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
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HA HA HA HA!!!
-----


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years so I'm
comfortable with the product. Agree that ETRN is the better solution and
have implemented as I can in the offices where the hosting partner supports
it.

On a side note, I sent an email to your contact at ed-com.com and never got
a response.

Thanks for the response.

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: pop mail

[Lefkovics, William]

How did you remove Contacts?  Isn't that a special folder?  Did you use the
Exchange client?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


My words are offensive???::removes contacts, cleans them, puts them back
in, re-reads my email::

Um, how are they offensive??  I didn't curse; I didn't resort to
name-calling; I didn't even get too worked up.  I also didn't mention
anything about viral infection.

I'm interested in knowing what was so offensive about that & if you thought
*that* was offensive, you must *really* think Don Ely's posts are
offensive!!  [1]


[1] Hi, Don!  *Hug*

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
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-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


Your words are offensive so I will try not to respond in kind.

Not all ISP's support ERTN. Not all offices have a domain or are interested
in a domain. Exchange does not require a domain and a lot of shops don't
have them. In order to get mail you make the choice:

1. Have all clients use POP mail and you take the RISK of infection as the
mail gets to the client BEFORE the mail gets into Exchange.
2. Use a POP connector on the server, scan mail before it gets to the client
and control the outbreaks.

You can preach all you want on your opinion of the connectors but there are
valid reasons to use them. 

Would I do the same thing today as has been done in the last few years, no.
Would I today deploy a POP connector today with the other tools available,
only as a last resort. Do I subscribe to the catchall phrase - all POP
connectors are crap. NO.

Your opinion differs, so we agree to disagree.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

There is information here:  <http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm>
about why POP connectors for Exchange are crap.

You say "It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years
so I'm comfortable with the product."  That's like saying, "I've run with
scissors for 20 years & have never gotten hurt, so I'm comfortable running
with them now." 

Why make your Exchange server behave like a client rather than a server?  If
your ISP won't do ETRN, have your mail hosted by someone who will, or get a
full-time internet connection & do your mail yourself.

PS:  Being a "small shop" is NOT an excuse.  My company is a small shop.  We
NEVER used a POP connector for Exchange - we used ETRN from our ISP before
we had a full-time internet connection.  Now that we have a FT connection,
we do our own email (with 2ndary MX support from ed-com.com).  Size of shop
is NEVER an excuse for doing things the wrong way.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
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HA HA HA HA!!!
-----


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years so I'm
comfortable with the product. Agree that ETRN is the better solution and
have implemented as I can in the offices where the hosting partner supports
it.

On a side note, I sent an email to your contact at ed-com.com and never got
a response.

Thanks for the response.

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: pop mail

[msharik]

Thank you, Ben.  *Hug*

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
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-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:25 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


Don't sweat it, Michèle.  No one else thinks you are offensive in any way.
Everyone that knows you would back up what you said.  Many others already
have.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, October 22, 2001 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: pop mail

My words are offensive???::removes contacts, cleans them, puts them back
in, re-reads my email::

Um, how are they offensive??  I didn't curse; I didn't resort to
name-calling; I didn't even get too worked up.  I also didn't mention
anything about viral infection.

I'm interested in knowing what was so offensive about that & if you thought
*that* was offensive, you must *really* think Don Ely's posts are
offensive!!  [1]


[1] Hi, Don!  *Hug*

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
What does this button do?  - Famous Last Words 
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-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


Your words are offensive so I will try not to respond in kind.

Not all ISP's support ERTN. Not all offices have a domain or are interested
in a domain. Exchange does not require a domain and a lot of shops don't
have them. In order to get mail you make the choice:

1. Have all clients use POP mail and you take the RISK of infection as the
mail gets to the client BEFORE the mail gets into Exchange.
2. Use a POP connector on the server, scan mail before it gets to the client
and control the outbreaks.

You can preach all you want on your opinion of the connectors but there are
valid reasons to use them. 

Would I do the same thing today as has been done in the last few years, no.
Would I today deploy a POP connector today with the other tools available,
only as a last resort. Do I subscribe to the catchall phrase - all POP
connectors are crap. NO.

Your opinion differs, so we agree to disagree.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

There is information here:  <http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm>
about why POP connectors for Exchange are crap.

You say "It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years
so I'm comfortable with the product."  That's like saying, "I've run with
scissors for 20 years & have never gotten hurt, so I'm comfortable running
with them now." 

Why make your Exchange server behave like a client rather than a server?  If
your ISP won't do ETRN, have your mail hosted by someone who will, or get a
full-time internet connection & do your mail yourself.

PS:  Being a "small shop" is NOT an excuse.  My company is a small shop.  We
NEVER used a POP connector for Exchange - we used ETRN from our ISP before
we had a full-time internet connection.  Now that we have a FT connection,
we do our own email (with 2ndary MX support from ed-com.com).  Size of shop
is NEVER an excuse for doing things the wrong way.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
HA HA HA HA!!!
---------


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years so I'm
comfortable with the product. Agree that ETRN is the better solution and
have implemented as I can in the offices where the hosting partner supports
it.

On a side note, I sent an ema

RE: pop mail

[Benjamin Winzenz]

Don't sweat it, Michèle.  No one else thinks you are offensive in any way.
Everyone that knows you would back up what you said.  Many others already
have.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, October 22, 2001 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:    RE: pop mail

My words are offensive???::removes contacts, cleans them, puts them back
in, re-reads my email::

Um, how are they offensive??  I didn't curse; I didn't resort to
name-calling; I didn't even get too worked up.  I also didn't mention
anything about viral infection.

I'm interested in knowing what was so offensive about that & if you thought
*that* was offensive, you must *really* think Don Ely's posts are
offensive!!  [1]


[1] Hi, Don!  *Hug*

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
What does this button do?  - Famous Last Words 
-


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


Your words are offensive so I will try not to respond in kind.

Not all ISP's support ERTN. Not all offices have a domain or are interested
in a domain. Exchange does not require a domain and a lot of shops don't
have them. In order to get mail you make the choice:

1. Have all clients use POP mail and you take the RISK of infection as the
mail gets to the client BEFORE the mail gets into Exchange.
2. Use a POP connector on the server, scan mail before it gets to the client
and control the outbreaks.

You can preach all you want on your opinion of the connectors but there are
valid reasons to use them. 

Would I do the same thing today as has been done in the last few years, no.
Would I today deploy a POP connector today with the other tools available,
only as a last resort. Do I subscribe to the catchall phrase - all POP
connectors are crap. NO.

Your opinion differs, so we agree to disagree.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

There is information here:  <http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm>
about why POP connectors for Exchange are crap.

You say "It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years
so I'm comfortable with the product."  That's like saying, "I've run with
scissors for 20 years & have never gotten hurt, so I'm comfortable running
with them now." 

Why make your Exchange server behave like a client rather than a server?  If
your ISP won't do ETRN, have your mail hosted by someone who will, or get a
full-time internet connection & do your mail yourself.

PS:  Being a "small shop" is NOT an excuse.  My company is a small shop.  We
NEVER used a POP connector for Exchange - we used ETRN from our ISP before
we had a full-time internet connection.  Now that we have a FT connection,
we do our own email (with 2ndary MX support from ed-com.com).  Size of shop
is NEVER an excuse for doing things the wrong way.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
HA HA HA HA!!!
-----


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years so I'm
comfortable with the product. Agree that ETRN is the better solution and
have implemented as I can in the offices where the hosting partner supports
it.

On a side note, I sent an email to your contact at ed-com.com and never got
a response.

Thanks for the response.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

Well, if by "it does work" you mean "it does work when it does work, but
doesn't when it doesn't", t

RE: pop mail

[msharik]

My words are offensive???::removes contacts, cleans them, puts them back
in, re-reads my email::

Um, how are they offensive??  I didn't curse; I didn't resort to
name-calling; I didn't even get too worked up.  I also didn't mention
anything about viral infection.

I'm interested in knowing what was so offensive about that & if you thought
*that* was offensive, you must *really* think Don Ely's posts are
offensive!!  [1]


[1] Hi, Don!  *Hug*

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
What does this button do?  - Famous Last Words 
-


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


Your words are offensive so I will try not to respond in kind.

Not all ISP's support ERTN. Not all offices have a domain or are interested
in a domain. Exchange does not require a domain and a lot of shops don't
have them. In order to get mail you make the choice:

1. Have all clients use POP mail and you take the RISK of infection as the
mail gets to the client BEFORE the mail gets into Exchange.
2. Use a POP connector on the server, scan mail before it gets to the client
and control the outbreaks.

You can preach all you want on your opinion of the connectors but there are
valid reasons to use them. 

Would I do the same thing today as has been done in the last few years, no.
Would I today deploy a POP connector today with the other tools available,
only as a last resort. Do I subscribe to the catchall phrase - all POP
connectors are crap. NO.

Your opinion differs, so we agree to disagree.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

There is information here:  <http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm>
about why POP connectors for Exchange are crap.

You say "It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years
so I'm comfortable with the product."  That's like saying, "I've run with
scissors for 20 years & have never gotten hurt, so I'm comfortable running
with them now." 

Why make your Exchange server behave like a client rather than a server?  If
your ISP won't do ETRN, have your mail hosted by someone who will, or get a
full-time internet connection & do your mail yourself.

PS:  Being a "small shop" is NOT an excuse.  My company is a small shop.  We
NEVER used a POP connector for Exchange - we used ETRN from our ISP before
we had a full-time internet connection.  Now that we have a FT connection,
we do our own email (with 2ndary MX support from ed-com.com).  Size of shop
is NEVER an excuse for doing things the wrong way.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
HA HA HA HA!!!
---------


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years so I'm
comfortable with the product. Agree that ETRN is the better solution and
have implemented as I can in the offices where the hosting partner supports
it.

On a side note, I sent an email to your contact at ed-com.com and never got
a response.

Thanks for the response.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
    240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

Well, if by "it does work" you mean "it does work when it does work, but
doesn't when it doesn't", that's the part I'm disagreeing with.

The reason for its use is silly too, but I understand that.  But finding a
provider that supports ETRN (ed-com.com comes to mind) is a better solution.

Missy
- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Which

RE: pop mail

[Clark, Steve]

Your words are offensive so I will try not to respond in kind.

Not all ISP's support ERTN. Not all offices have a domain or are interested
in a domain. Exchange does not require a domain and a lot of shops don't
have them. In order to get mail you make the choice:

1. Have all clients use POP mail and you take the RISK of infection as the
mail gets to the client BEFORE the mail gets into Exchange.
2. Use a POP connector on the server, scan mail before it gets to the client
and control the outbreaks.

You can preach all you want on your opinion of the connectors but there are
valid reasons to use them. 

Would I do the same thing today as has been done in the last few years, no.
Would I today deploy a POP connector today with the other tools available,
only as a last resort. Do I subscribe to the catchall phrase - all POP
connectors are crap. NO.

Your opinion differs, so we agree to disagree.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

There is information here:  <http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm>
about why POP connectors for Exchange are crap.

You say "It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years
so I'm comfortable with the product."  That's like saying, "I've run with
scissors for 20 years & have never gotten hurt, so I'm comfortable running
with them now." 

Why make your Exchange server behave like a client rather than a server?  If
your ISP won't do ETRN, have your mail hosted by someone who will, or get a
full-time internet connection & do your mail yourself.

PS:  Being a "small shop" is NOT an excuse.  My company is a small shop.  We
NEVER used a POP connector for Exchange - we used ETRN from our ISP before
we had a full-time internet connection.  Now that we have a FT connection,
we do our own email (with 2ndary MX support from ed-com.com).  Size of shop
is NEVER an excuse for doing things the wrong way.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
HA HA HA HA!!!
-


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years so I'm
comfortable with the product. Agree that ETRN is the better solution and
have implemented as I can in the offices where the hosting partner supports
it.

On a side note, I sent an email to your contact at ed-com.com and never got
a response.

Thanks for the response.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-----
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

Well, if by "it does work" you mean "it does work when it does work, but
doesn't when it doesn't", that's the part I'm disagreeing with.

The reason for its use is silly too, but I understand that.  But finding a
provider that supports ETRN (ed-com.com comes to mind) is a better solution.

Missy
----- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Which part don't you agree with - the fact that it does work or the reason
for it's use?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

They're crap.  William is correct.

- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Don't know what products you have used but my experience with POP3Gateway
from JAK has been much different. There are some drawbacks, but blanket BCC
is not one of them. The only issue I have ever had, and still have is a
message delivered BCC to a DL, will end up as a NDR. However, I was able to
overcome t

RE: pop mail

[Lefkovics, William]

Are you saying, it's not the size of your 'shop', but what you do with it
that counts?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 8:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


There is information here:  <http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm>
about why POP connectors for Exchange are crap.

You say "It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years
so I'm comfortable with the product."  That's like saying, "I've run with
scissors for 20 years & have never gotten hurt, so I'm comfortable running
with them now."  

Why make your Exchange server behave like a client rather than a server?  If
your ISP won't do ETRN, have your mail hosted by someone who will, or get a
full-time internet connection & do your mail yourself.

PS:  Being a "small shop" is NOT an excuse.  My company is a small shop.  We
NEVER used a POP connector for Exchange - we used ETRN from our ISP before
we had a full-time internet connection.  Now that we have a FT connection,
we do our own email (with 2ndary MX support from ed-com.com).  Size of shop
is NEVER an excuse for doing things the wrong way.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
HA HA HA HA!!! 
-


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years so I'm
comfortable with the product. Agree that ETRN is the better solution and
have implemented as I can in the offices where the hosting partner supports
it.

On a side note, I sent an email to your contact at ed-com.com and never got
a response.

Thanks for the response.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

Well, if by "it does work" you mean "it does work when it does work, but
doesn't when it doesn't", that's the part I'm disagreeing with.

The reason for its use is silly too, but I understand that.  But finding a
provider that supports ETRN (ed-com.com comes to mind) is a better solution.

Missy
- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Which part don't you agree with - the fact that it does work or the reason
for it's use?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

They're crap.  William is correct.

- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Don't know what products you have used but my experience with POP3Gateway
from JAK has been much different. There are some drawbacks, but blanket BCC
is not one of them. The only issue I have ever had, and still have is a
message delivered BCC to a DL, will end up as a NDR. However, I was able to
overcome that by setting up a remap file that says if the recipient in the
TO or CC field, remap the mail to person [EMAIL PROTECTED] If that
rule fails, all NDR's (very few) are delivered to one person in the
organization who will forward or delete (mostly sales BS).

Bottom line - not all POP3 connectors are crap. It depends on the situation
and the requirements. Just as some companies can afford to purchase Backup
Exec w/the Exchange agent, other companies use NT Backup made Exchange aware
- it just depends on the company.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

POP is a client protocol.  It doesn't hold the functionality that SMTP
delivered mail does.

In most environments, confidentia

RE: pop mail

[msharik]

There is information here:  <http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm>
about why POP connectors for Exchange are crap.

You say "It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years
so I'm comfortable with the product."  That's like saying, "I've run with
scissors for 20 years & have never gotten hurt, so I'm comfortable running
with them now."  

Why make your Exchange server behave like a client rather than a server?  If
your ISP won't do ETRN, have your mail hosted by someone who will, or get a
full-time internet connection & do your mail yourself.

PS:  Being a "small shop" is NOT an excuse.  My company is a small shop.  We
NEVER used a POP connector for Exchange - we used ETRN from our ISP before
we had a full-time internet connection.  Now that we have a FT connection,
we do our own email (with 2ndary MX support from ed-com.com).  Size of shop
is NEVER an excuse for doing things the wrong way.

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-
HA HA HA HA!!! 
-


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail


It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years so I'm
comfortable with the product. Agree that ETRN is the better solution and
have implemented as I can in the offices where the hosting partner supports
it.

On a side note, I sent an email to your contact at ed-com.com and never got
a response.

Thanks for the response.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

Well, if by "it does work" you mean "it does work when it does work, but
doesn't when it doesn't", that's the part I'm disagreeing with.

The reason for its use is silly too, but I understand that.  But finding a
provider that supports ETRN (ed-com.com comes to mind) is a better solution.

Missy
- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Which part don't you agree with - the fact that it does work or the reason
for it's use?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

They're crap.  William is correct.

- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Don't know what products you have used but my experience with POP3Gateway
from JAK has been much different. There are some drawbacks, but blanket BCC
is not one of them. The only issue I have ever had, and still have is a
message delivered BCC to a DL, will end up as a NDR. However, I was able to
overcome that by setting up a remap file that says if the recipient in the
TO or CC field, remap the mail to person [EMAIL PROTECTED] If that
rule fails, all NDR's (very few) are delivered to one person in the
organization who will forward or delete (mostly sales BS).

Bottom line - not all POP3 connectors are crap. It depends on the situation
and the requirements. Just as some companies can afford to purchase Backup
Exec w/the Exchange agent, other companies use NT Backup made Exchange aware
- it just depends on the company.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

POP is a client protocol.  It doesn't hold the functionality that SMTP
delivered mail does.

In most environments, confidential email arriving BCC to the CEO should
actually go to the CEO.  How does your POP connector handle that?  POP
connectors don't operate well with many listservers, causing mail loops.

POP connectors are crap.

William

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve

RE: pop mail

[Clark, Steve]

It has worked very well in the offices for about the last 3 years so I'm
comfortable with the product. Agree that ETRN is the better solution and
have implemented as I can in the offices where the hosting partner supports
it.

On a side note, I sent an email to your contact at ed-com.com and never got
a response.

Thanks for the response.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

Well, if by "it does work" you mean "it does work when it does work, but
doesn't when it doesn't", that's the part I'm disagreeing with.

The reason for its use is silly too, but I understand that.  But finding a
provider that supports ETRN (ed-com.com comes to mind) is a better solution.

Missy
- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Which part don't you agree with - the fact that it does work or the reason
for it's use?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

They're crap.  William is correct.

- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Don't know what products you have used but my experience with POP3Gateway
from JAK has been much different. There are some drawbacks, but blanket BCC
is not one of them. The only issue I have ever had, and still have is a
message delivered BCC to a DL, will end up as a NDR. However, I was able to
overcome that by setting up a remap file that says if the recipient in the
TO or CC field, remap the mail to person [EMAIL PROTECTED] If that
rule fails, all NDR's (very few) are delivered to one person in the
organization who will forward or delete (mostly sales BS).

Bottom line - not all POP3 connectors are crap. It depends on the situation
and the requirements. Just as some companies can afford to purchase Backup
Exec w/the Exchange agent, other companies use NT Backup made Exchange aware
- it just depends on the company.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

POP is a client protocol.  It doesn't hold the functionality that SMTP
delivered mail does.

In most environments, confidential email arriving BCC to the CEO should
actually go to the CEO.  How does your POP connector handle that?  POP
connectors don't operate well with many listservers, causing mail loops.

POP connectors are crap.

William

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail

While I agree that ETRN is a great solution, some ISP's do not support
it.
My ISP (major brand) is currently making changes to support it.

In several offices for the last 3 years, I have successfully deployed a
POP3
connector from JAK with very few problems. It allows for mailboxes from
several different ISP's to be retrieved without user involvement.

It depends on your environment and requirements.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
        301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 6:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

There are several as already mentioned, but being a few thousand of us
got
together and I was voted the one to ask:

Why would you want to denigrate your powerful Exchange server by calling
it
an email client?  POP3 connectors don't even work.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP


-Original Message-
From: Gary Gregg
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 5:10 AM
Subject: pop mail


  Hi all does anyone know any pop 3 collectors for exchange ive tried
popcon but is there any others??

Thanks Gary Gregg


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Ch

Re: pop mail

[Missy Koslosky]

Well, if by "it does work" you mean "it does work when it does work, but
doesn't when it doesn't", that's the part I'm disagreeing with.

The reason for its use is silly too, but I understand that.  But finding a
provider that supports ETRN (ed-com.com comes to mind) is a better solution.

Missy
- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Which part don't you agree with - the fact that it does work or the reason
for it's use?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

They're crap.  William is correct.

- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Don't know what products you have used but my experience with POP3Gateway
from JAK has been much different. There are some drawbacks, but blanket BCC
is not one of them. The only issue I have ever had, and still have is a
message delivered BCC to a DL, will end up as a NDR. However, I was able to
overcome that by setting up a remap file that says if the recipient in the
TO or CC field, remap the mail to person [EMAIL PROTECTED] If that
rule fails, all NDR's (very few) are delivered to one person in the
organization who will forward or delete (mostly sales BS).

Bottom line - not all POP3 connectors are crap. It depends on the situation
and the requirements. Just as some companies can afford to purchase Backup
Exec w/the Exchange agent, other companies use NT Backup made Exchange aware
- it just depends on the company.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-----Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

POP is a client protocol.  It doesn't hold the functionality that SMTP
delivered mail does.

In most environments, confidential email arriving BCC to the CEO should
actually go to the CEO.  How does your POP connector handle that?  POP
connectors don't operate well with many listservers, causing mail loops.

POP connectors are crap.

William

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail

While I agree that ETRN is a great solution, some ISP's do not support
it.
My ISP (major brand) is currently making changes to support it.

In several offices for the last 3 years, I have successfully deployed a
POP3
connector from JAK with very few problems. It allows for mailboxes from
several different ISP's to be retrieved without user involvement.

It depends on your environment and requirements.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 6:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

There are several as already mentioned, but being a few thousand of us
got
together and I was voted the one to ask:

Why would you want to denigrate your powerful Exchange server by calling
it
an email client?  POP3 connectors don't even work.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP


-Original Message-
From: Gary Gregg
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 5:10 AM
Subject: pop mail


  Hi all does anyone know any pop 3 collectors for exchange ive tried
popcon but is there any others??

Thanks Gary Gregg


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: pop mail

[Clark, Steve]

Which part don't you agree with - the fact that it does work or the reason
for it's use?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

They're crap.  William is correct.

- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Don't know what products you have used but my experience with POP3Gateway
from JAK has been much different. There are some drawbacks, but blanket BCC
is not one of them. The only issue I have ever had, and still have is a
message delivered BCC to a DL, will end up as a NDR. However, I was able to
overcome that by setting up a remap file that says if the recipient in the
TO or CC field, remap the mail to person [EMAIL PROTECTED] If that
rule fails, all NDR's (very few) are delivered to one person in the
organization who will forward or delete (mostly sales BS).

Bottom line - not all POP3 connectors are crap. It depends on the situation
and the requirements. Just as some companies can afford to purchase Backup
Exec w/the Exchange agent, other companies use NT Backup made Exchange aware
- it just depends on the company.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

POP is a client protocol.  It doesn't hold the functionality that SMTP
delivered mail does.

In most environments, confidential email arriving BCC to the CEO should
actually go to the CEO.  How does your POP connector handle that?  POP
connectors don't operate well with many listservers, causing mail loops.

POP connectors are crap.

William

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail

While I agree that ETRN is a great solution, some ISP's do not support
it.
My ISP (major brand) is currently making changes to support it.

In several offices for the last 3 years, I have successfully deployed a
POP3
connector from JAK with very few problems. It allows for mailboxes from
several different ISP's to be retrieved without user involvement.

It depends on your environment and requirements.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 6:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

There are several as already mentioned, but being a few thousand of us
got
together and I was voted the one to ask:

Why would you want to denigrate your powerful Exchange server by calling
it
an email client?  POP3 connectors don't even work.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP


-Original Message-
From: Gary Gregg
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 5:10 AM
Subject: pop mail


  Hi all does anyone know any pop 3 collectors for exchange ive tried
popcon but is there any others??

Thanks Gary Gregg


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

Re: pop mail

[Missy Koslosky]

They're crap.  William is correct.

- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail


Don't know what products you have used but my experience with POP3Gateway
from JAK has been much different. There are some drawbacks, but blanket BCC
is not one of them. The only issue I have ever had, and still have is a
message delivered BCC to a DL, will end up as a NDR. However, I was able to
overcome that by setting up a remap file that says if the recipient in the
TO or CC field, remap the mail to person [EMAIL PROTECTED] If that
rule fails, all NDR's (very few) are delivered to one person in the
organization who will forward or delete (mostly sales BS).

Bottom line - not all POP3 connectors are crap. It depends on the situation
and the requirements. Just as some companies can afford to purchase Backup
Exec w/the Exchange agent, other companies use NT Backup made Exchange aware
- it just depends on the company.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

POP is a client protocol.  It doesn't hold the functionality that SMTP
delivered mail does.

In most environments, confidential email arriving BCC to the CEO should
actually go to the CEO.  How does your POP connector handle that?  POP
connectors don't operate well with many listservers, causing mail loops.

POP connectors are crap.

William

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail

While I agree that ETRN is a great solution, some ISP's do not support
it.
My ISP (major brand) is currently making changes to support it.

In several offices for the last 3 years, I have successfully deployed a
POP3
connector from JAK with very few problems. It allows for mailboxes from
several different ISP's to be retrieved without user involvement.

It depends on your environment and requirements.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 6:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

There are several as already mentioned, but being a few thousand of us
got
together and I was voted the one to ask:

Why would you want to denigrate your powerful Exchange server by calling
it
an email client?  POP3 connectors don't even work.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP


-----Original Message-
From: Gary Gregg
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 5:10 AM
Subject: pop mail


  Hi all does anyone know any pop 3 collectors for exchange ive tried
popcon but is there any others??

Thanks Gary Gregg


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: pop mail

[Lefkovics, William]

Of course there are drawbacks, starting with the protocol.

You are right, though, it definitely depends on the company.  If you can
afford Exchange, get a real ISP.

All POP connectors are crap. 

When the email is delivered to the ISP mailbox, the 'envelope' is stripped.
The message is assumed to be at its final destination.  Information needed
for comprehensive NDR's from your Exchange server is long gone.

Data can go missing.  This is often a function of the email client that sent
the original message.

I realize some companies may accept these standards.  

William

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/21/01 5:44 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail

Don't know what products you have used but my experience with
POP3Gateway
from JAK has been much different. There are some drawbacks, but blanket
BCC
is not one of them. The only issue I have ever had, and still have is a
message delivered BCC to a DL, will end up as a NDR. However, I was able
to
overcome that by setting up a remap file that says if the recipient in
the
TO or CC field, remap the mail to person [EMAIL PROTECTED] If
that
rule fails, all NDR's (very few) are delivered to one person in the
organization who will forward or delete (mostly sales BS).

Bottom line - not all POP3 connectors are crap. It depends on the
situation
and the requirements. Just as some companies can afford to purchase
Backup
Exec w/the Exchange agent, other companies use NT Backup made Exchange
aware
- it just depends on the company.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

POP is a client protocol.  It doesn't hold the functionality that SMTP
delivered mail does.

In most environments, confidential email arriving BCC to the CEO should
actually go to the CEO.  How does your POP connector handle that?  POP
connectors don't operate well with many listservers, causing mail loops.


POP connectors are crap.

William

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail

While I agree that ETRN is a great solution, some ISP's do not support
it.
My ISP (major brand) is currently making changes to support it.

In several offices for the last 3 years, I have successfully deployed a
POP3
connector from JAK with very few problems. It allows for mailboxes from
several different ISP's to be retrieved without user involvement.

It depends on your environment and requirements.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: pop mail

[Clark, Steve]

Don't know what products you have used but my experience with POP3Gateway
from JAK has been much different. There are some drawbacks, but blanket BCC
is not one of them. The only issue I have ever had, and still have is a
message delivered BCC to a DL, will end up as a NDR. However, I was able to
overcome that by setting up a remap file that says if the recipient in the
TO or CC field, remap the mail to person [EMAIL PROTECTED] If that
rule fails, all NDR's (very few) are delivered to one person in the
organization who will forward or delete (mostly sales BS).

Bottom line - not all POP3 connectors are crap. It depends on the situation
and the requirements. Just as some companies can afford to purchase Backup
Exec w/the Exchange agent, other companies use NT Backup made Exchange aware
- it just depends on the company.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: pop mail

POP is a client protocol.  It doesn't hold the functionality that SMTP
delivered mail does.

In most environments, confidential email arriving BCC to the CEO should
actually go to the CEO.  How does your POP connector handle that?  POP
connectors don't operate well with many listservers, causing mail loops. 

POP connectors are crap.

William

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail

While I agree that ETRN is a great solution, some ISP's do not support
it.
My ISP (major brand) is currently making changes to support it.

In several offices for the last 3 years, I have successfully deployed a
POP3
connector from JAK with very few problems. It allows for mailboxes from
several different ISP's to be retrieved without user involvement.

It depends on your environment and requirements.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 6:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

There are several as already mentioned, but being a few thousand of us
got
together and I was voted the one to ask:

Why would you want to denigrate your powerful Exchange server by calling
it
an email client?  POP3 connectors don't even work.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP


-Original Message-
From: Gary Gregg
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 5:10 AM
Subject: pop mail


  Hi all does anyone know any pop 3 collectors for exchange ive tried
popcon but is there any others??

Thanks Gary Gregg


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: pop mail

[Lefkovics, William]

POP is a client protocol.  It doesn't hold the functionality that SMTP
delivered mail does.

In most environments, confidential email arriving BCC to the CEO should
actually go to the CEO.  How does your POP connector handle that?  POP
connectors don't operate well with many listservers, causing mail loops.  

POP connectors are crap.

William

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail

While I agree that ETRN is a great solution, some ISP's do not support
it.
My ISP (major brand) is currently making changes to support it.

In several offices for the last 3 years, I have successfully deployed a
POP3
connector from JAK with very few problems. It allows for mailboxes from
several different ISP's to be retrieved without user involvement.

It depends on your environment and requirements.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 6:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

There are several as already mentioned, but being a few thousand of us
got
together and I was voted the one to ask:

Why would you want to denigrate your powerful Exchange server by calling
it
an email client?  POP3 connectors don't even work. 

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP


-Original Message-
From: Gary Gregg
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 5:10 AM
Subject: pop mail

 
  Hi all does anyone know any pop 3 collectors for exchange ive tried
popcon but is there any others??

Thanks Gary Gregg


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: pop mail

[Clark, Steve]

While I agree that ETRN is a great solution, some ISP's do not support it.
My ISP (major brand) is currently making changes to support it.

In several offices for the last 3 years, I have successfully deployed a POP3
connector from JAK with very few problems. It allows for mailboxes from
several different ISP's to be retrieved without user involvement.

It depends on your environment and requirements.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 6:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pop mail

There are several as already mentioned, but being a few thousand of us got
together and I was voted the one to ask:

Why would you want to denigrate your powerful Exchange server by calling it
an email client?  POP3 connectors don't even work. 

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP


-Original Message-
From: Gary Gregg
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 5:10 AM
Subject: pop mail

 
  Hi all does anyone know any pop 3 collectors for exchange ive tried
popcon but is there any others??

Thanks Gary Gregg


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

Re: pop mail

[Lefkovics, William]

There are several as already mentioned, but being a few thousand of us got
together and I was voted the one to ask:

Why would you want to denigrate your powerful Exchange server by calling it
an email client?  POP3 connectors don't even work.  

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP


-Original Message-
From: Gary Gregg
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: 10/20/01 5:10 AM
Subject: pop mail

  
  Hi all does anyone know any pop 3 collectors for exchange ive tried
popcon but is there any others??
 
Thanks Gary Gregg


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: pop mail

[Joseph J Trombley]

Try POPBeamer. Used it for 
my last job after testing about 7 different products. It is very reliable and 
easier to configure. A lot of nice features like single or "catch all" 
retrieval. The link is below:
 
http://www.dataenter.co.at/products/popbeamer.htm

  -Original Message-From: Gary Gregg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 5:11 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: pop 
  mail 
  
    Hi all does anyone know any pop 3 
  collectors for exchange ive tried popcon but is there any 
  others??
   
  Thanks Gary 
Gregg

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

Re: pop mail

[Bryan Chapman \(exchange_list\)]

popweasle, popbeamer
- Original Message -
From: "Clark, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: pop mail


> POP3Gateway from JAK (www.jak.com).
>
> Steve Clark
> Clark Systems Support, LLC
> AVIEN Charter Member
> "Who's watching your network?"
> www.clarksupport.com
>   301-610-9584 voice
>   240-465-0323 Efax
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Gregg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 8:11 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: pop mail
>
>   Hi all does anyone know any pop 3 collectors for exchange ive tried
popcon
> but is there any others??
>
> Thanks Gary Gregg
>
>
> List Charter and FAQ at:
> http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
>
>


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

Re: pop mail

[Greg Hamner]

I use Exchange pop3 by Kinesphere.  (www.exchangepop3.com 
).  It'e 
excellent and has lots of features.

Greg Hamner
IT/Network Administrator
ESI
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 







List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: pop mail

[Clark, Steve]

POP3Gateway from JAK (www.jak.com).
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original Message-
From: Gary Gregg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 8:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: pop mail
 
  Hi all does anyone know any pop 3 collectors for exchange ive tried popcon
but is there any others??
 
Thanks Gary Gregg
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

pop mail

[Gary Gregg]

  Hi all does anyone know
any pop 3 collectors for exchange ive tried popcon but is there any others??

 

Thanks Gary Gregg







List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

RE: POP Exchange Gateway

[Dave Vantine]

Edcom
181 Adams Mill Drive
Atlanta, GA 30044
PH (770) 921-7901
FX (770) 921-7920

Ed Woodrick  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Amy Woodrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Amy is typically easier to reach 

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway


Do you have a contact email - the links on the site are blank.

Thanks.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

http://www.ed-com.com


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway


Ok - who's Ed? How can I contact?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

I likewise am using Ed as a backup smtp server and am likewise satisfied
with his cost. When our primary server is unavailable the backup server
begins queuing our mail until we are back online. The secondary smtp server
keeps retrying to automatically dequeue the mail until it is able to. The
whole operation is transparent to exchange.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: POP Exchange Gateway


Our 2ndary MX record is set to a 3rd party's server - we pay them for this -
and we don't have any ETRN or anything configured.  It resends any mail it
receives to us.

Could've been our ISP, but they wanted too much $ for it.

Ed Woodrick was kind enough to offer his services at a fraction of the cost.

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but if we
have nothing to fear but fear itself, why does Elanore Roosevelt wear that
spooky mask?"
-

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway


Ok, that's the part I don't get. I have a permanent connection but at times
it floats up/ down. Do you still have this configured now - if so, what are
you setting the dequeue time to?

Appreciate the granularity of the responses.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

that is exactly what we did until we got a permanent connection to the
internet.  we operated this way for approx 6 months.

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law." -
David Dinkins, New York City Mayor, answering accusation that he failed to
pay his taxes
-
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
So from what I've read, here's the short list:

MX1 points to local Exchange server
MX2 point to ISP Exchange server

When MX1 is not avail, mail remains on ISP server waiting
When broadband returns, a dequeue process removes mail from ISP and delivers
to local Ex box

Have you personally deployed this?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

check this one out, too:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp_roughcut.htm

-Michèle
Immigration site: 

RE: POP Exchange Gateway

[Clark, Steve]

Do you have a contact email - the links on the site are blank.

Thanks.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

http://www.ed-com.com


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway


Ok - who's Ed? How can I contact?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

I likewise am using Ed as a backup smtp server and am likewise satisfied
with his cost. When our primary server is unavailable the backup server
begins queuing our mail until we are back online. The secondary smtp server
keeps retrying to automatically dequeue the mail until it is able to. The
whole operation is transparent to exchange.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: POP Exchange Gateway


Our 2ndary MX record is set to a 3rd party's server - we pay them for this -
and we don't have any ETRN or anything configured.  It resends any mail it
receives to us.

Could've been our ISP, but they wanted too much $ for it.

Ed Woodrick was kind enough to offer his services at a fraction of the cost.

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but if we
have nothing to fear but fear itself, why does Elanore Roosevelt wear that
spooky mask?"
-

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway


Ok, that's the part I don't get. I have a permanent connection but at times
it floats up/ down. Do you still have this configured now - if so, what are
you setting the dequeue time to?

Appreciate the granularity of the responses.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

that is exactly what we did until we got a permanent connection to the
internet.  we operated this way for approx 6 months.

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law." -
David Dinkins, New York City Mayor, answering accusation that he failed to
pay his taxes
-
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
So from what I've read, here's the short list:

MX1 points to local Exchange server
MX2 point to ISP Exchange server

When MX1 is not avail, mail remains on ISP server waiting
When broadband returns, a dequeue process removes mail from ISP and delivers
to local Ex box

Have you personally deployed this?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

check this one out, too:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp_roughcut.htm

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"If you do unusual things expect unusual problems." Patrick Sweeney, June 1,
2000
-
-Original Message-----
From: 

RE: POP Exchange Gateway

[Dave Vantine]

http://www.ed-com.com


-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway


Ok - who's Ed? How can I contact?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

I likewise am using Ed as a backup smtp server and am likewise satisfied
with his cost. When our primary server is unavailable the backup server
begins queuing our mail until we are back online. The secondary smtp server
keeps retrying to automatically dequeue the mail until it is able to. The
whole operation is transparent to exchange.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: POP Exchange Gateway


Our 2ndary MX record is set to a 3rd party's server - we pay them for this -
and we don't have any ETRN or anything configured.  It resends any mail it
receives to us. 

Could've been our ISP, but they wanted too much $ for it.

Ed Woodrick was kind enough to offer his services at a fraction of the cost.

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but if we
have nothing to fear but fear itself, why does Elanore Roosevelt wear that
spooky mask?"
-

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway


Ok, that's the part I don't get. I have a permanent connection but at times
it floats up/ down. Do you still have this configured now - if so, what are
you setting the dequeue time to?

Appreciate the granularity of the responses.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

that is exactly what we did until we got a permanent connection to the
internet.  we operated this way for approx 6 months.

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law." -
David Dinkins, New York City Mayor, answering accusation that he failed to
pay his taxes
-
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
So from what I've read, here's the short list:

MX1 points to local Exchange server
MX2 point to ISP Exchange server

When MX1 is not avail, mail remains on ISP server waiting
When broadband returns, a dequeue process removes mail from ISP and delivers
to local Ex box

Have you personally deployed this?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

check this one out, too:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp_roughcut.htm

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"If you do unusual things expect unusual problems." Patrick Sweeney, June 1,
2000
-
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
I don't think I would have misunderstood 3 different companies.
Of course not, I will now though. Consider myself slapped would be
appropriate.

Thanks for the info -

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.

RE: POP Exchange Gateway

[Clark, Steve]

Ok - who's Ed? How can I contact?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

I likewise am using Ed as a backup smtp server and am likewise satisfied
with his cost. When our primary server is unavailable the backup server
begins queuing our mail until we are back online. The secondary smtp server
keeps retrying to automatically dequeue the mail until it is able to. The
whole operation is transparent to exchange.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: POP Exchange Gateway


Our 2ndary MX record is set to a 3rd party's server - we pay them for this -
and we don't have any ETRN or anything configured.  It resends any mail it
receives to us. 

Could've been our ISP, but they wanted too much $ for it.

Ed Woodrick was kind enough to offer his services at a fraction of the cost.

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but if we
have nothing to fear but fear itself, why does Elanore Roosevelt wear that
spooky mask?"
-

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway


Ok, that's the part I don't get. I have a permanent connection but at times
it floats up/ down. Do you still have this configured now - if so, what are
you setting the dequeue time to?

Appreciate the granularity of the responses.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

that is exactly what we did until we got a permanent connection to the
internet.  we operated this way for approx 6 months.

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law." -
David Dinkins, New York City Mayor, answering accusation that he failed to
pay his taxes
-
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
So from what I've read, here's the short list:

MX1 points to local Exchange server
MX2 point to ISP Exchange server

When MX1 is not avail, mail remains on ISP server waiting
When broadband returns, a dequeue process removes mail from ISP and delivers
to local Ex box

Have you personally deployed this?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

check this one out, too:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp_roughcut.htm

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"If you do unusual things expect unusual problems." Patrick Sweeney, June 1,
2000
-
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
I don't think I would have misunderstood 3 different companies.
Of course not, I will now though. Consider myself slapped would be
appropriate.

Thanks for the info -

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:29 PM
To: MS-Exchang

RE: POP Exchange Gateway

[Dave Vantine]

I likewise am using Ed as a backup smtp server and am likewise satisfied
with his cost. When our primary server is unavailable the backup server
begins queuing our mail until we are back online. The secondary smtp server
keeps retrying to automatically dequeue the mail until it is able to. The
whole operation is transparent to exchange.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: POP Exchange Gateway


Our 2ndary MX record is set to a 3rd party's server - we pay them for this -
and we don't have any ETRN or anything configured.  It resends any mail it
receives to us.  

Could've been our ISP, but they wanted too much $ for it.

Ed Woodrick was kind enough to offer his services at a fraction of the cost.

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com 
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley 
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk 
- 
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but if we
have nothing to fear but fear itself, why does Elanore Roosevelt wear that
spooky mask?" 
- 

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway


Ok, that's the part I don't get. I have a permanent connection but at times
it floats up/ down. Do you still have this configured now - if so, what are
you setting the dequeue time to?
 
Appreciate the granularity of the responses.
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
 
that is exactly what we did until we got a permanent connection to the
internet.  we operated this way for approx 6 months.
 
-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com 
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley 
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk 
- 
"I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law." -
David Dinkins, New York City Mayor, answering accusation that he failed to
pay his taxes 
- 
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
So from what I've read, here's the short list:
 
MX1 points to local Exchange server
MX2 point to ISP Exchange server
 
When MX1 is not avail, mail remains on ISP server waiting
When broadband returns, a dequeue process removes mail from ISP and delivers
to local Ex box
 
Have you personally deployed this?
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
 
check this one out, too:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp_roughcut.htm
 
-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com 
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley 
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk 
- 
"If you do unusual things expect unusual problems." Patrick Sweeney, June 1,
2000 
- 
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
I don't think I would have misunderstood 3 different companies. 
Of course not, I will now though. Consider myself slapped would be
appropriate.
 
Thanks for the info - 
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
 
> I looked into this a ways back and was told by 2 ISP's as well as PSS to
not use ETRN in it's native form. Why do you suppose?
Maybe you misunderstood them?
> What's the configuration on EX 5.5 to pull using ETRN?
Did you go look at the link I gave you?  There's a link there to this:
ht

RE: POP Exchange Gateway

[Clark, Steve]

Ok - thanks.

I think what I'll try (Paul - are you reading all this as well?) is to kill
the POP3 config. After downloading the Dequeue utility, set up the same
routine where POP3 runs every 30 minutes (just in case) to pull mail.

Thanks for the detailed help.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: POP Exchange Gateway

Our 2ndary MX record is set to a 3rd party's server - we pay them for this -
and we don't have any ETRN or anything configured.  It resends any mail it
receives to us. 

Could've been our ISP, but they wanted too much $ for it.

Ed Woodrick was kind enough to offer his services at a fraction of the cost.

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but if we
have nothing to fear but fear itself, why does Elanore Roosevelt wear that
spooky mask?"
-

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway


Ok, that's the part I don't get. I have a permanent connection but at times
it floats up/ down. Do you still have this configured now - if so, what are
you setting the dequeue time to?

Appreciate the granularity of the responses.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

that is exactly what we did until we got a permanent connection to the
internet.  we operated this way for approx 6 months.

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law." -
David Dinkins, New York City Mayor, answering accusation that he failed to
pay his taxes
-
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
So from what I've read, here's the short list:

MX1 points to local Exchange server
MX2 point to ISP Exchange server

When MX1 is not avail, mail remains on ISP server waiting
When broadband returns, a dequeue process removes mail from ISP and delivers
to local Ex box

Have you personally deployed this?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

check this one out, too:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp_roughcut.htm

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
"If you do unusual things expect unusual problems." Patrick Sweeney, June 1,
2000
-
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
I don't think I would have misunderstood 3 different companies.
Of course not, I will now though. Consider myself slapped would be
appropriate.

Thanks for the info -

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway

> I looked into this a ways back and was told by 2 ISP's as well as PSS to
not use ETRN in it's native form. Why do you suppose?
Maybe you misunderstood them?
> What's the configuration on EX 5.5 to pull using ETRN?
Did you

FW: POP Exchange Gateway

[msharik]

Our 2ndary MX record is set to a 3rd party's server - we pay them for this -
and we don't have any ETRN or anything configured.  It resends any mail it
receives to us.  

Could've been our ISP, but they wanted too much $ for it.

Ed Woodrick was kind enough to offer his services at a fraction of the cost.

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com 
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley 
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk 
- 
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but if we
have nothing to fear but fear itself, why does Elanore Roosevelt wear that
spooky mask?" 
- 

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway


Ok, that's the part I don't get. I have a permanent connection but at times
it floats up/ down. Do you still have this configured now - if so, what are
you setting the dequeue time to?
 
Appreciate the granularity of the responses.
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
 
that is exactly what we did until we got a permanent connection to the
internet.  we operated this way for approx 6 months.
 
-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com 
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley 
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk 
- 
"I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law." -
David Dinkins, New York City Mayor, answering accusation that he failed to
pay his taxes 
- 
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
So from what I've read, here's the short list:
 
MX1 points to local Exchange server
MX2 point to ISP Exchange server
 
When MX1 is not avail, mail remains on ISP server waiting
When broadband returns, a dequeue process removes mail from ISP and delivers
to local Ex box
 
Have you personally deployed this?
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
 
check this one out, too:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp_roughcut.htm
 
-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com 
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley 
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk 
- 
"If you do unusual things expect unusual problems." Patrick Sweeney, June 1,
2000 
- 
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
I don't think I would have misunderstood 3 different companies. 
Of course not, I will now though. Consider myself slapped would be
appropriate.
 
Thanks for the info - 
 
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
"Who's watching your network?"
www.clarksupport.com
  301-610-9584 voice
  240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP Exchange Gateway
 
> I looked into this a ways back and was told by 2 ISP's as well as PSS to
not use ETRN in it's native form. Why do you suppose?
Maybe you misunderstood them?
> What's the configuration on EX 5.5 to pull using ETRN?
Did you go look at the link I gave you?  There's a link there to this:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp.htm  specifically, 
Dial-on-Demand Router Issues
Solutions if you have a dial-on-demand router that connects to your ISP 
ISP Issues
FAQ about how to deal with your ISP who may or may not be running Exchange 
 
> Tiggercam?
 
Yes.  For all your Tigger needs.


-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
-

RE: POP Exchange Gateway

[msharik]

that is exactly what we did 
until we got a permanent connection to the internet.  we operated this way 
for approx 6 months.
 -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our 
new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley 
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk 
- "I haven't 
committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law." - David Dinkins, 
New York City Mayor, answering accusation that he failed to pay his taxes 
- 
-Original Message-From: Clark, Steve 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:00 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: POP Exchange 
Gateway

So from 
what I’ve read, here’s the short list:
 
MX1 
points to local Exchange server
MX2 
point to ISP Exchange server
 
When MX1 
is not avail, mail remains on ISP server 
waiting
When 
broadband returns, a dequeue process removes mail from ISP and delivers to local 
Ex box
 
Have you 
personally deployed this?
 
Steve 
Clark
Clark 
Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN 
Charter Member
“Who's 
watching your network?”
www.clarksupport.com
  
301-610-9584 voice
  
240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:34 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: POP 
Exchange Gateway
 
check 
this one out, too:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp_roughcut.htm
 
-MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our 
new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley 
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk 
- "If you do 
unusual things expect unusual problems." Patrick Sweeney, June 1, 2000 
- 

-Original 
Message-From: Clark, Steve 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:32 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: POP 
Exchange Gateway
I don’t 
think I would have misunderstood 3 different companies. 

Of 
course not, I will now though. Consider myself slapped would be 
appropriate.
 
Thanks 
for the info – 
 
Steve 
Clark
Clark 
Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN 
Charter Member
“Who's 
watching your network?”
www.clarksupport.com
  
301-610-9584 voice
  
240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:29 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: POP 
Exchange Gateway
 
> I looked into this a 
ways back and was told by 2 ISP's as well as PSS to not use ETRN in it's native 
form. Why do you suppose?
Maybe you 
misunderstood them?
> What's the configuration 
on EX 5.5 to pull using ETRN?
Did you go look at the link I 
gave you?  There's a link there to this: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp.htm  
specifically, 
Dial-on-Demand Router 
IssuesSolutions if you have a dial-on-demand 
router that connects to your ISP 
ISP 
IssuesFAQ 
about how to deal with your ISP who may or may not be running 
Exchange 
 
> 
Tiggercam?
 
Yes.  For all 
your Tigger needs.
-MichèleImmigration 
site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>Our 
new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>Tiggercam:  
<http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>-I'll 
get a world record for this.. - Famous Last 
Words--Original 
Message-From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Friday, September 21, 2001 2:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: POP Exchange GatewayI looked into this a ways back and was told 
by 2 ISP's as well as PSS to notuse ETRN in it's native form. Why do you 
suppose?What's the configuration on EX 5.5 to pull using 
ETRN?Tiggercam?Steve ClarkClark Systems Support, 
LLCAVIEN Charter 
Memberwww.clarksupport.com    
301-610-9584 voice    240-465-0323 
Efax-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, 
September 21, 2001 2:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: POP 
Exchange Gateway???  If you use ETRN you don't need POP.  No 
POP3Gateway.  Just ETRN.1st MX record = your mail server2nd MX 
record = your ISP's mail serverperiodically, your mail server dials into 
the internet & issues an ETRNcommand to your ISP's mail server, which 
sucks down the mail which is thendistributed.  (While your mail server 
is connected to the internet, itaccepts incoming SMTP mail 
directly.)POP3Gateways = BAD<http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm>-MichèleImmigration 
site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>Our 
new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>Tiggercam:  
<http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>

RE: POP Exchange Gateway

[msharik]

(gee, that sounds 
familiar!)  Yes and yes.  It works great.
 -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our 
new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley 
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk 
- "I haven't 
committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law." - David Dinkins, 
New York City Mayor, answering accusation that he failed to pay his taxes 
- 
-Original Message-From: Clark, Steve 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:00 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: POP Exchange 
Gateway

So from 
what I’ve read, here’s the short list:
 
MX1 
points to local Exchange server
MX2 
point to ISP Exchange server
 
When MX1 
is not avail, mail remains on ISP server 
waiting
When 
broadband returns, a dequeue process removes mail from ISP and delivers to local 
Ex box
 
Have you 
personally deployed this?
 
Steve 
Clark
Clark 
Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN 
Charter Member
“Who's 
watching your network?”
www.clarksupport.com
  
301-610-9584 voice
  
240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:34 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: POP 
Exchange Gateway
 
check 
this one out, too:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp_roughcut.htm
 
-MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our 
new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley 
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk 
- "If you do 
unusual things expect unusual problems." Patrick Sweeney, June 1, 2000 
- 

-Original 
Message-From: Clark, Steve 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:32 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: POP 
Exchange Gateway
I don’t 
think I would have misunderstood 3 different companies. 

Of 
course not, I will now though. Consider myself slapped would be 
appropriate.
 
Thanks 
for the info – 
 
Steve 
Clark
Clark 
Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN 
Charter Member
“Who's 
watching your network?”
www.clarksupport.com
  
301-610-9584 voice
  
240-465-0323 Efax
 
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:29 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: POP 
Exchange Gateway
 
> I looked into this a 
ways back and was told by 2 ISP's as well as PSS to not use ETRN in it's native 
form. Why do you suppose?
Maybe you 
misunderstood them?
> What's the configuration 
on EX 5.5 to pull using ETRN?
Did you go look at the link I 
gave you?  There's a link there to this: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_smtp.htm  
specifically, 
Dial-on-Demand Router 
IssuesSolutions if you have a dial-on-demand 
router that connects to your ISP 
ISP 
IssuesFAQ 
about how to deal with your ISP who may or may not be running 
Exchange 
 
> 
Tiggercam?
 
Yes.  For all 
your Tigger needs.
-MichèleImmigration 
site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>Our 
new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>Tiggercam:  
<http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>-I'll 
get a world record for this.. - Famous Last 
Words--Original 
Message-From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Friday, September 21, 2001 2:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: POP Exchange GatewayI looked into this a ways back and was told 
by 2 ISP's as well as PSS to notuse ETRN in it's native form. Why do you 
suppose?What's the configuration on EX 5.5 to pull using 
ETRN?Tiggercam?Steve ClarkClark Systems Support, 
LLCAVIEN Charter 
Memberwww.clarksupport.com    
301-610-9584 voice    240-465-0323 
Efax-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, 
September 21, 2001 2:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: POP 
Exchange Gateway???  If you use ETRN you don't need POP.  No 
POP3Gateway.  Just ETRN.1st MX record = your mail server2nd MX 
record = your ISP's mail serverperiodically, your mail server dials into 
the internet & issues an ETRNcommand to your ISP's mail server, which 
sucks down the mail which is thendistributed.  (While your mail server 
is connected to the internet, itaccepts incoming SMTP mail 
directly.)POP3Gateways = BAD<http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm>-MichèleImmigration 
site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>Our 
new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>Tiggercam:  
<http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>-You 
don't stop laughing because you grow