RE: BESX
Any machine with the BES Manager for 4.1 or with access to the BESAdmin page 5.0 can activate, with BES Enterprise you can also allow user access to the web desktop manager to do their activation themselves. -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Question for you BESX experts. When you run the server virtual, ie, no USB ports, can you activate a handheld by connecting it to my workstation, accessing the besadmin web page from that workstation or does the handheld have to be connected via USB to the server. Apparently I have some users that don't have the proper data plan and the over the air activation doesn't work. Thanks. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESX
Small point but you have to use Internet Explorer. Don't waste lots of time using Chrome wondering why it isn't working. Not that I know anyone who's done that... -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: 01 December 2010 16:00 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Question for you BESX experts. When you run the server virtual, ie, no USB ports, can you activate a handheld by connecting it to my workstation, accessing the besadmin web page from that workstation or does the handheld have to be connected via USB to the server. Apparently I have some users that don't have the proper data plan and the over the air activation doesn't work. Thanks. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESX
Thanks for the info, although I don't use chrome or firefox, call me a diehard IE user. -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESX Small point but you have to use Internet Explorer. Don't waste lots of time using Chrome wondering why it isn't working. Not that I know anyone who's done that... -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: 01 December 2010 16:00 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Question for you BESX experts. When you run the server virtual, ie, no USB ports, can you activate a handheld by connecting it to my workstation, accessing the besadmin web page from that workstation or does the handheld have to be connected via USB to the server. Apparently I have some users that don't have the proper data plan and the over the air activation doesn't work. Thanks. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESX
Thanks for the assurance. Just activated our first phone. Easy peasy. -Original Message- From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESX Any machine with the BES Manager for 4.1 or with access to the BESAdmin page 5.0 can activate, with BES Enterprise you can also allow user access to the web desktop manager to do their activation themselves. -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Question for you BESX experts. When you run the server virtual, ie, no USB ports, can you activate a handheld by connecting it to my workstation, accessing the besadmin web page from that workstation or does the handheld have to be connected via USB to the server. Apparently I have some users that don't have the proper data plan and the over the air activation doesn't work. Thanks. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: BESx?
We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. -- *From:* Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto: daniel.casti...@hp.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
Yes BESx can be put on your exchange box but there's plenty of arguments out there as to why you don't want to install 3rd party apps on your exchange box. From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: BESx?
My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. -- *From:* Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto: daniel.casti...@hp.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.commailto:2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.commailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.commailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.commailto:2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.commailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.commailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
I’d guess the same as normal BES, in the region of £60-70/CAL. From: bounce-9165000-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9165000-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Hrvoje Špiranec Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.commailto:2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.commailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.commailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
My understanding (from the person that handles BlackBerries) is that BESx does not require CALs and that is the reason it is desirable (as opposed to regular old BES). From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? I’d guess the same as normal BES, in the region of £60-70/CAL. From: bounce-9165000-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9165000-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Hrvoje Špiranec Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
Express is free other than tariff costs to have a Blackberry. Regarding where to install it, my understanding is you can install it on the Exchange box for less than 75 users, but it's recommended to use a dedicated box regardless (apparently reboot the BES is quite a commonly proffered solution to problems but that's anecdotal). From: Hrvoje Špiranec [mailto:hrv...@albuslinea.com] Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
Lovely, thanks for that. From: bounce-9165018-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9165018-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Mayo, Bill Sent: 10 November 2010 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? My understanding (from the person that handles BlackBerries) is that BESx does not require CALs and that is the reason it is desirable (as opposed to regular old BES). From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? I’d guess the same as normal BES, in the region of £60-70/CAL. From: bounce-9165000-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9165000-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Hrvoje Špiranec Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.commailto:2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.commailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.commailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: BESx?
I'll concur. I reboot my BES about 3 times as often as the Exchange server. 2010/11/10 Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk Express is free other than tariff costs to have a Blackberry. Regarding where to install it, my understanding is you *can* install it on the Exchange box for less than 75 users, but it's recommended to use a dedicated box regardless (apparently reboot the BES is quite a commonly proffered solution to problems but that's anecdotal). *From:* Hrvoje Špiranec [mailto:hrv...@albuslinea.com] *Sent:* 10 November 2010 14:58 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? *From:* Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. -- *From:* Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto: daniel.casti...@hp.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- *MIRA Ltd* Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
Just to throw one out there, we're looking at Blackberry right now though it's currently not past the let's see if we can get some on loan stage. Can anyone throw anything at me from the BES Express perspective that is either spectacularly good or spectacularly bad? We're just looking to do the usual things and have some management of our mobiles - I don't think right now that we want to get especially control freaky. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 November 2010 16:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? I'll concur. I reboot my BES about 3 times as often as the Exchange server. 2010/11/10 Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk Express is free other than tariff costs to have a Blackberry. Regarding where to install it, my understanding is you can install it on the Exchange box for less than 75 users, but it's recommended to use a dedicated box regardless (apparently reboot the BES is quite a commonly proffered solution to problems but that's anecdotal). From: Hrvoje Špiranec [mailto:hrv...@albuslinea.com] Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums
RE: BESx?
The case for Blackberries over Iphone/Droid/WM currently is pretty straight forward. 1.Security on the phone is hardened. Its tried/trued. 2. Management. There is nothing you cannot control about a Blackberry from the tools. Droid, Iphone, WM, you have some semblance but not even close to a Blackberry 3. Activation. Its easy. Ensure your provider has it provisioned. They receive it, create the account on the BES box, give them a password or send it to their email through the tools and walk them through it. Done. Very hands off. Send one to the other side of the world and a monkey can activate it. 4. If you need to access files/folders or web sites on the same network as the BES server without complicating VPN's etc. They can do it all from the phone. Web access is built right in, files/folders takes some config work on the BES box. 5. Wipe and ensure your data is gone. Cant guarantee that with any of the other phones. If it gets the kill, it's a brick.. 6. Downsides. Management..Server resources..Another app to babysit, when it breaks..It breaks big..in my experience. 7. Free software, no cals required, free installation support, optional tech support contract, does 90% of what you want to do. Big Daddy BES does things with MDS, apps, tracking of SMS messages, compliance things mostly etc..Things most of our SMB's don't deal with. Saying all that we have 8 clients on BESx moved from SMB edition or Professional. Very little issues overall. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Just to throw one out there, we're looking at Blackberry right now though it's currently not past the let's see if we can get some on loan stage. Can anyone throw anything at me from the BES Express perspective that is either spectacularly good or spectacularly bad? We're just looking to do the usual things and have some management of our mobiles - I don't think right now that we want to get especially control freaky. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 November 2010 16:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? I'll concur. I reboot my BES about 3 times as often as the Exchange server. 2010/11/10 Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukmailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk Express is free other than tariff costs to have a Blackberry. Regarding where to install it, my understanding is you can install it on the Exchange box for less than 75 users, but it's recommended to use a dedicated box regardless (apparently reboot the BES is quite a commonly proffered solution to problems but that's anecdotal). From: Hrvoje Špiranec [mailto:hrv...@albuslinea.commailto:hrv...@albuslinea.com] Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.commailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.commailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.commailto:2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.commailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.commailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes
RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Doesn't specifically compare against BPS, but should answer some of your questions. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/business/server/express/ComparisonChart_NA_021610_v3.pdf Thanks, JB From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
I think that's a plain old BLACKBERRY data plan From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Having got my hands on the software - it is for Exchange only. Fully supported with Exchange 2003, 2007 and 2010. Fully supported installed on the same server as Exchange - which includes SBS 2003 and 2008. Fully 64 bit. Although there is an issue with MP3 audio files when the server is installed on Windows 2008. It looks like for fully functionality you have to install it on Windows 2003. That is a bit poor from RIM. The lack of the over the air sync applies to BIS based clients only. If you have the Enterprise plan on the device then you can over the air activate as normal. You can also activate it through the Blackberry Admin Service. The major limitation is the security policies - full BES gives you something like 400, you get 35 on Express. The documentation is here: http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/subcategories/?userType=2category=BlackBerry+Enterprise+Server+Express+for+Microsoft+Exchange It includes the full config and admin guide, plus an Excel spread sheet of the policies available. Very early days, I am working on an installation at the moment, and will probably blog on it later in the week. However I have heard from Howie at port3101.org that he has a number of BIS only devices working fine. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2010 20:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0800 (PST) To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Simon, Thanks just what i was looking for. David From: Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 3:49:12 PM Subject: RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Having got my hands on the software - it is for Exchange only. Fully supported with Exchange 2003, 2007 and 2010. Fully supported installed on the same server as Exchange – which includes SBS 2003 and 2008. Fully 64 bit. Although there is an issue with MP3 audio files when the server is installed on Windows 2008. It looks like for fully functionality you have to install it on Windows 2003. That is a bit poor from RIM. The lack of the over the air sync applies to BIS based clients only. If you have the Enterprise plan on the device then you can over the air activate as normal. You can also activate it through the Blackberry Admin Service. The major limitation is the security policies – full BES gives you something like 400, you get 35 on Express. The documentation is here: http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/subcategories/?userType=2category=BlackBerry+Enterprise+Server+Express+for+Microsoft+Exchange It includes the full config and admin guide, plus an Excel spread sheet of the policies available. Very early days, I am working on an installation at the moment, and will probably blog on it later in the week. However I have heard from Howie at port3101.org that he has a number of BIS only devices working fine. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2010 20:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0800 (PST) To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
It appears to not be qualified on Server 2008 R2. sigh Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Having got my hands on the software - it is for Exchange only. Fully supported with Exchange 2003, 2007 and 2010. Fully supported installed on the same server as Exchange - which includes SBS 2003 and 2008. Fully 64 bit. Although there is an issue with MP3 audio files when the server is installed on Windows 2008. It looks like for fully functionality you have to install it on Windows 2003. That is a bit poor from RIM. The lack of the over the air sync applies to BIS based clients only. If you have the Enterprise plan on the device then you can over the air activate as normal. You can also activate it through the Blackberry Admin Service. The major limitation is the security policies - full BES gives you something like 400, you get 35 on Express. The documentation is here: http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/subcategories/?userType=2category=BlackBerry+Enterprise+Server+Express+for+Microsoft+Exchange It includes the full config and admin guide, plus an Excel spread sheet of the policies available. Very early days, I am working on an installation at the moment, and will probably blog on it later in the week. However I have heard from Howie at port3101.org that he has a number of BIS only devices working fine. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2010 20:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0800 (PST) To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
