RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Mr Harshang kindly do the favour by posting the same . Aur hamara saab logo ka bhala kar re tu. Sonu Singh Customer Support Executive Softcell Technologies Limited Phone +91-22-4606969 Ext. 248 Fax+91-22-4224912 Maigott ist mit Ihnen (May God be with you) Rosenbaum, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/02/2002 10:03 PM Please respond to MS-Exchange Admin Issues To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 And is this registry entry for 5.5 or 2000, and on Client or Server? -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Post away! Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: harshang shah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hi There ! Yes that right if you press shift and delete a mail then it is a hard delete but there is a registry entry which lets you recover mails that have been hard deleted without the need to restore it from the backup .If any body requires that entry then let me know and belive me it works I have recovered hundreds of mailboxes through it . Harshang (MCSE(NT4.0),CCNA,MCSE(Win2k) --- Allen Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you hold down SHIFT while deleting, it is completely gone. I think that is what he meant by a hard delete. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Here's what I did: Created the contact Deleted the contact Empty the trash bin Recover delete items Look for test contact Wow, something that actually works in office XP Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder? Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
It looks like some are asking for info on this...If you do a search on dumpsteralwayson, you will find the Q article. This gives the outlook client the ability to recover deleted items from all folders, instead of just deleted items folder. Thank you, Patrick Sonu Singh/MUM/IN/STTLTo: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssingh@softcell.cc: co.in Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 02/26/2002 02:22 AM Please respond to MS-Exchange Admin Issues Mr Harshang kindly do the favour by posting the same . Aur hamara saab logo ka bhala kar re tu. Sonu Singh Customer Support Executive Softcell Technologies Limited Phone +91-22-4606969 Ext. 248 Fax +91-22-4224912 Maigott ist mit Ihnen (May God be with you) Rosenbaum, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/02/2002 10:03 PM Please respond to cc: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject:RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 And is this registry entry for 5.5 or 2000, and on Client or Server? -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Post away! Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: harshang shah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hi There ! Yes that right if you press shift and delete a mail then it is a hard delete but there is a registry entry which lets you recover mails that have been hard deleted without the need to restore it from the backup .If any body requires that entry then let me know and belive me it works I have recovered hundreds of mailboxes through it . Harshang (MCSE(NT4.0),CCNA,MCSE(Win2k) --- Allen Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you hold down SHIFT while deleting, it is completely gone. I think that is what he meant by a hard delete. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Here's what I did: Created the contact Deleted the contact Empty the trash bin Recover delete items Look for test contact Wow, something that actually works in office XP Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Hi There ! Yes that right if you press shift and delete a mail then it is a hard delete but there is a registry entry which lets you recover mails that have been hard deleted without the need to restore it from the backup .If any body requires that entry then let me know and belive me it works I have recovered hundreds of mailboxes through it . Harshang (MCSE(NT4.0),CCNA,MCSE(Win2k) --- Allen Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you hold down SHIFT while deleting, it is completely gone. I think that is what he meant by a hard delete. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Here's what I did: Created the contact Deleted the contact Empty the trash bin Recover delete items Look for test contact Wow, something that actually works in office XP Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder? Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Post away! Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: harshang shah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hi There ! Yes that right if you press shift and delete a mail then it is a hard delete but there is a registry entry which lets you recover mails that have been hard deleted without the need to restore it from the backup .If any body requires that entry then let me know and belive me it works I have recovered hundreds of mailboxes through it . Harshang (MCSE(NT4.0),CCNA,MCSE(Win2k) --- Allen Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you hold down SHIFT while deleting, it is completely gone. I think that is what he meant by a hard delete. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Here's what I did: Created the contact Deleted the contact Empty the trash bin Recover delete items Look for test contact Wow, something that actually works in office XP Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder? Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
And is this registry entry for 5.5 or 2000, and on Client or Server? -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Post away! Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: harshang shah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hi There ! Yes that right if you press shift and delete a mail then it is a hard delete but there is a registry entry which lets you recover mails that have been hard deleted without the need to restore it from the backup .If any body requires that entry then let me know and belive me it works I have recovered hundreds of mailboxes through it . Harshang (MCSE(NT4.0),CCNA,MCSE(Win2k) --- Allen Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you hold down SHIFT while deleting, it is completely gone. I think that is what he meant by a hard delete. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Here's what I did: Created the contact Deleted the contact Empty the trash bin Recover delete items Look for test contact Wow, something that actually works in office XP Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder? Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Search the KB for 'dumpsteralwayson' http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q246153 William -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Yes please I would like this info. Thanks, -Original Message- From: harshang shah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hi There ! Yes that right if you press shift and delete a mail then it is a hard delete but there is a registry entry which lets you recover mails that have been hard deleted without the need to restore it from the backup .If any body requires that entry then let me know and belive me it works I have recovered hundreds of mailboxes through it . Harshang (MCSE(NT4.0),CCNA,MCSE(Win2k) --- Allen Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you hold down SHIFT while deleting, it is completely gone. I think that is what he meant by a hard delete. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Here's what I did: Created the contact Deleted the contact Empty the trash bin Recover delete items Look for test contact Wow, something that actually works in office XP Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder? Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Title: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Count me in, too. Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Yes please I would like this info. Thanks, -Original Message- From: harshang shah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hi There ! Yes that right if you press shift and delete a mail then it is a hard delete but there is a registry entry which lets you recover mails that have been hard deleted without the need to restore it from the backup .If any body requires that entry then let me know and belive me it works I have recovered hundreds of mailboxes through it . Harshang (MCSE(NT4.0),CCNA,MCSE(Win2k) --- Allen Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you hold down SHIFT while deleting, it is completely gone. I think that is what he meant by a hard delete. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Here's what I did: Created the contact Deleted the contact Empty the trash bin Recover delete items Look for test contact Wow, something that actually works in office XP Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder? Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 February 2002 23:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hello, Does anyone do brick level backups? I know there are many disadvantages of doing this especially since the fact that you are doing double the work and your tape could run for several hours more than if you were to just backup the IS and Dir but can a brick level backup cause problems with your logs and cause your Exchanges services like the IS service to fail? Just curious. We have a client that insists on doing it this way. Although in my brick level scheme im only backing up the Inbox and no other Outlook folder. I just want to maek sure that by doing brick-level im not going to further mess their exchange server. Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 February 2002 23:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hello, Does anyone do brick level backups? I know there are many disadvantages of doing this especially since the fact that you are doing double the work and your tape could run for several hours more than if you were to just backup the IS and Dir but can a brick level backup cause problems with your logs and cause your Exchanges services like the IS service to fail? Just curious. We have a client that insists on doing it this way. Although in my brick level scheme im only backing up the Inbox and no other Outlook folder. I just want to maek sure that by doing brick-level im not going to further mess their exchange server. Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder? Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 February 2002 23:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hello, Does anyone do brick level backups? I know there are many disadvantages of doing this especially since the fact that you are doing double the work and your tape could run for several hours more than if you were to just backup the IS and Dir but can a brick level backup cause problems with your logs and cause your Exchanges services like the IS service to fail? Just curious. We have a client that insists on doing it this way. Although in my brick level scheme im only backing up the Inbox and no other Outlook folder. I just want to maek sure that by doing brick-level im not going to further mess their exchange server. Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Here's what I did: Created the contact Deleted the contact Empty the trash bin Recover delete items Look for test contact Wow, something that actually works in office XP Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder? Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 February 2002 23:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hello, Does anyone do brick level backups? I know there are many disadvantages of doing this especially since the fact that you are doing double the work and your tape could run for several hours more than if you were to just backup the IS and Dir but can a brick level backup cause problems with your logs and cause your Exchanges services like the IS service to fail? Just curious. We have a client that insists on doing it this way. Although in my brick level scheme im only backing up the Inbox and no other Outlook folder. I just want to maek sure that by doing brick-level im not going to further mess their exchange server. Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
That way works, but not it was deleted by pressing the shift+delete keys or after it has been moved to a pst file. Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:44 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Here's what I did: Created the contact Deleted the contact Empty the trash bin Recover delete items Look for test contact Wow, something that actually works in office XP Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder? Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 February 2002 23:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hello, Does anyone do brick level backups? I know there are many disadvantages of doing this especially since the fact that you are doing double the work and your tape could run for several hours more than if you were to just backup the IS and Dir but can a brick level backup cause problems with your logs and cause your Exchanges services like the IS service to fail? Just curious. We have a client that insists on doing it this way. Although in my brick level scheme im only backing up the Inbox and no other Outlook folder. I just want to maek sure that by doing brick-level im not going to further mess their exchange server. Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Just found out on TechNet that it varies between outlook 98 and 2000, we still use 98. Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:44 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Here's what I did: Created the contact Deleted the contact Empty the trash bin Recover delete items Look for test contact Wow, something that actually works in office XP Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder? Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 February 2002 23:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hello, Does anyone do brick level backups? I know there are many disadvantages of doing this especially since the fact that you are doing double the work and your tape could run for several hours more than if you were to just backup the IS and Dir but can a brick level backup cause problems with your logs and cause your Exchanges services like the IS service to fail? Just curious. We have a client that insists on doing it this way. Although in my brick level scheme im only backing up the Inbox and no other Outlook folder. I just want to maek sure that by doing brick-level im not going to further mess their exchange server. Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
We have a mixture of 98 and 2000, and while it doesn't work on those folders in 98 (at least that's been my experience before I upgraded to OL2K) it works on Outlook 2000 for tasks, calendar, contacts journals. Just tested by shift+del on all of those folders and was able to recover. It would make sense that it would not work for psts, since they are not part of the message store, therefore not subject to deleted items retention. You might want to consider going to OL2K yourself for this purpose ;-) .. jd -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Just found out on TechNet that it varies between outlook 98 and 2000, we still use 98. Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:44 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Here's what I did: Created the contact Deleted the contact Empty the trash bin Recover delete items Look for test contact Wow, something that actually works in office XP Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder? Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 February 2002 23:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hello, Does anyone do brick level backups? I know there are many disadvantages of doing this especially since the fact that you are doing double the work and your tape could run for several hours more than if you were to just backup the IS and Dir but can a brick level backup cause problems with your logs and cause your Exchanges services like the IS service to fail? Just curious. We have a client
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
But if you hold down SHIFT while deleting, it is completely gone. I think that is what he meant by a hard delete. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Here's what I did: Created the contact Deleted the contact Empty the trash bin Recover delete items Look for test contact Wow, something that actually works in office XP Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder? Neil -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 I just did the recovery of a contact using the recover deleted items and it worked fine? Even though the GUI leads you to believe it is only going to recover mail items, it actually does them all. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 The only point I would make in addition to the below with regards to Deleted Item recovery on all folders is that it doesn't work on Contacts, Notes, Tasks and Colander items (Not sure about Journal items). I've done about 2 restores in about the last year, once for an accidental deletion of a mailbox and another for a load of 'hard' deleted contacts. He advises waiting a month before mailbox deletion, I prefer using exmerge to copy the mailbox to an archive area (We leave it there for a month or 2) along with a copy of the users profile and home dir and then delete the account. This way you have an exact copy of any data you delete and keeps everything tidy. I also don't advertise the availability of the recover deleted items option. Generally the user doesn't need to know about it and the ones that do often purge that as well. Neil List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hello, Does anyone do brick level backups? I know there are many disadvantages of doing this especially since the fact that you are doing double the work and your tape could run for several hours more than if you were to just backup the IS and Dir but can a brick level backup cause problems with your logs and cause your Exchanges services like the IS service to fail? Just curious. We have a client that insists on doing it this way. Although in my brick level scheme im only backing up the Inbox and no other Outlook folder. I just want to maek sure that by doing brick-level im not going to further mess their exchange server. Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Could not have said it better myself -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 18:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6 Hello, Does anyone do brick level backups? I know there are many disadvantages of doing this especially since the fact that you are doing double the work and your tape could run for several hours more than if you were to just backup the IS and Dir but can a brick level backup cause problems with your logs and cause your Exchanges services like the IS service to fail? Just curious. We have a client that insists on doing it this way. Although in my brick level scheme im only backing up the Inbox and no other Outlook folder. I just want to maek sure that by doing brick-level im not going to further mess their exchange server. Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
