RE: E-mails to junk folder

2010-02-17 Thread Miller Bonnie L . 
And if I'm reading correctly, Outlook 2007 should not be using the junk folders 
in online mode-is that correct?  We've been non-cached mode for a long time, 
and I've verified that has not changed on many of the accounts where this is 
happening.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc178957.aspx (Supported Account 
types section)

Does not supported actually mean it doesn't work, or you shouldn't do it?  In 
other words, something could be turning on our junk filter settings (like a 
group policy) and it's suddenly trying to work, but really just isn't supported?

If I look at my junk filter settings (it has happened to my account as well) it 
shows "low".  Right before I get to the screen to view the settings (actions, 
junk e-mail, junk e-mail options), I get a warning about the filter not being 
available because I'm working online.


From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: E-mails to junk folder

All of a sudden in the last day or two, many of our internally addressed 
messages are going to the Outlook 2007 (non-cached mode) junk folders for 
different mailboxes.  For example, automated messages from 
a...@mukilteo.wednet.edu end up in junk for 
some users.  So far, all of the messages are ones that come from other servers 
in the domain that are not the actual Exchange server, but are added as servers 
that are authenticated or allowed to relay (by IP address) on one of two 
receive connectors.  Back end is E2k7 SP1 RU9 all roles with latest security 
patches from last week.

I don't know much about how the junk mechanisms work and am just starting to 
dig, but if anyone has seen this or knows right where to go looking I'd 
appreciate it.  I've checked our external IP for blacklisting and am not 
finding it turn up anywhere that I can see.

Thanks,
Bonnie

RE: E-mails to junk folder

2010-02-17 Thread Michael B. Smith 
Isn't this controlled by "antispam agent settings" on the hub transport/edge?

If you are in online mode, Outlook shouldn't process Junk Email itself - but it 
still can be processed server-side.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

And if I'm reading correctly, Outlook 2007 should not be using the junk folders 
in online mode-is that correct?  We've been non-cached mode for a long time, 
and I've verified that has not changed on many of the accounts where this is 
happening.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc178957.aspx (Supported Account 
types section)

Does not supported actually mean it doesn't work, or you shouldn't do it?  In 
other words, something could be turning on our junk filter settings (like a 
group policy) and it's suddenly trying to work, but really just isn't supported?

If I look at my junk filter settings (it has happened to my account as well) it 
shows "low".  Right before I get to the screen to view the settings (actions, 
junk e-mail, junk e-mail options), I get a warning about the filter not being 
available because I'm working online.


From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: E-mails to junk folder

All of a sudden in the last day or two, many of our internally addressed 
messages are going to the Outlook 2007 (non-cached mode) junk folders for 
different mailboxes.  For example, automated messages from 
a...@mukilteo.wednet.edu<mailto:a...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> end up in junk for 
some users.  So far, all of the messages are ones that come from other servers 
in the domain that are not the actual Exchange server, but are added as servers 
that are authenticated or allowed to relay (by IP address) on one of two 
receive connectors.  Back end is E2k7 SP1 RU9 all roles with latest security 
patches from last week.

I don't know much about how the junk mechanisms work and am just starting to 
dig, but if anyone has seen this or knows right where to go looking I'd 
appreciate it.  I've checked our external IP for blacklisting and am not 
finding it turn up anywhere that I can see.

Thanks,
Bonnie

RE: E-mails to junk folder

2010-02-17 Thread Miller Bonnie L . 
Thanks Michael-so, do you know where exactly I might find that in EMC?  I've 
looked all over the hub transport options (again, single server all roles SP1 
RU9) and am just not finding it.  No Exchange edge server-we have a barracuda 
spam firewall on the outside.

For example, I see a screenshot here of the configuration, but I can't find 
this screen anywhere.
http://exchangepedia.com/blog/2007/02/exchange-2007-content-filter-how-to_07.html

If I run get-organizationconfig I can see the "SCLJunkThreshold" value is set 
to 4.

Get-contentfilterconfig shows the DN of the object to be under Transport 
Settings, but I only have two tabs in the properties of Transport settings 
under \Organization Configuration\Hub Transport.  I'm SUPPOSED to be logged on 
with an admin with all of the correct rights, but I'm starting to wonder if 
there is a permission out of whack somewhere.

-Bonnie

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Isn't this controlled by "antispam agent settings" on the hub transport/edge?

If you are in online mode, Outlook shouldn't process Junk Email itself - but it 
still can be processed server-side.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

And if I'm reading correctly, Outlook 2007 should not be using the junk folders 
in online mode-is that correct?  We've been non-cached mode for a long time, 
and I've verified that has not changed on many of the accounts where this is 
happening.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc178957.aspx (Supported Account 
types section)

Does not supported actually mean it doesn't work, or you shouldn't do it?  In 
other words, something could be turning on our junk filter settings (like a 
group policy) and it's suddenly trying to work, but really just isn't supported?

If I look at my junk filter settings (it has happened to my account as well) it 
shows "low".  Right before I get to the screen to view the settings (actions, 
junk e-mail, junk e-mail options), I get a warning about the filter not being 
available because I'm working online.


From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: E-mails to junk folder

All of a sudden in the last day or two, many of our internally addressed 
messages are going to the Outlook 2007 (non-cached mode) junk folders for 
different mailboxes.  For example, automated messages from 
a...@mukilteo.wednet.edu<mailto:a...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> end up in junk for 
some users.  So far, all of the messages are ones that come from other servers 
in the domain that are not the actual Exchange server, but are added as servers 
that are authenticated or allowed to relay (by IP address) on one of two 
receive connectors.  Back end is E2k7 SP1 RU9 all roles with latest security 
patches from last week.

I don't know much about how the junk mechanisms work and am just starting to 
dig, but if anyone has seen this or knows right where to go looking I'd 
appreciate it.  I've checked our external IP for blacklisting and am not 
finding it turn up anywhere that I can see.

Thanks,
Bonnie

RE: E-mails to junk folder

2010-02-17 Thread Michael B. Smith 
Set the organizationConfig for SCLJunkThreshold to 8. :)

Those tabs only show up in the EMC if you've run install-AntispamAgents.ps1 in 
$exscripts which causes the relevant DLLs to get registered.

Get-TransportAgent shows you what agents are actually installed and can be 
configured from the EMS.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Thanks Michael-so, do you know where exactly I might find that in EMC?  I've 
looked all over the hub transport options (again, single server all roles SP1 
RU9) and am just not finding it.  No Exchange edge server-we have a barracuda 
spam firewall on the outside.

For example, I see a screenshot here of the configuration, but I can't find 
this screen anywhere.
http://exchangepedia.com/blog/2007/02/exchange-2007-content-filter-how-to_07.html

If I run get-organizationconfig I can see the "SCLJunkThreshold" value is set 
to 4.

Get-contentfilterconfig shows the DN of the object to be under Transport 
Settings, but I only have two tabs in the properties of Transport settings 
under \Organization Configuration\Hub Transport.  I'm SUPPOSED to be logged on 
with an admin with all of the correct rights, but I'm starting to wonder if 
there is a permission out of whack somewhere.

-Bonnie

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Isn't this controlled by "antispam agent settings" on the hub transport/edge?

If you are in online mode, Outlook shouldn't process Junk Email itself - but it 
still can be processed server-side.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

And if I'm reading correctly, Outlook 2007 should not be using the junk folders 
in online mode-is that correct?  We've been non-cached mode for a long time, 
and I've verified that has not changed on many of the accounts where this is 
happening.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc178957.aspx (Supported Account 
types section)

Does not supported actually mean it doesn't work, or you shouldn't do it?  In 
other words, something could be turning on our junk filter settings (like a 
group policy) and it's suddenly trying to work, but really just isn't supported?

If I look at my junk filter settings (it has happened to my account as well) it 
shows "low".  Right before I get to the screen to view the settings (actions, 
junk e-mail, junk e-mail options), I get a warning about the filter not being 
available because I'm working online.


From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: E-mails to junk folder

All of a sudden in the last day or two, many of our internally addressed 
messages are going to the Outlook 2007 (non-cached mode) junk folders for 
different mailboxes.  For example, automated messages from 
a...@mukilteo.wednet.edu<mailto:a...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> end up in junk for 
some users.  So far, all of the messages are ones that come from other servers 
in the domain that are not the actual Exchange server, but are added as servers 
that are authenticated or allowed to relay (by IP address) on one of two 
receive connectors.  Back end is E2k7 SP1 RU9 all roles with latest security 
patches from last week.

I don't know much about how the junk mechanisms work and am just starting to 
dig, but if anyone has seen this or knows right where to go looking I'd 
appreciate it.  I've checked our external IP for blacklisting and am not 
finding it turn up anywhere that I can see.

Thanks,
Bonnie

RE: E-mails to junk folder

2010-02-17 Thread Miller Bonnie L . 
Kewl... did not know about that one or it's been so long I forgot.

http://www.expta.com/2008/08/how-to-configure-scl-in-exchange.html

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb201691(EXCHG.80).aspx

I've adjusted the SCL level and restarted the transport service for good 
measure.  Will see if it gets any better-thanks a bunch!


From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Set the organizationConfig for SCLJunkThreshold to 8. :)

Those tabs only show up in the EMC if you've run install-AntispamAgents.ps1 in 
$exscripts which causes the relevant DLLs to get registered.

Get-TransportAgent shows you what agents are actually installed and can be 
configured from the EMS.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Thanks Michael-so, do you know where exactly I might find that in EMC?  I've 
looked all over the hub transport options (again, single server all roles SP1 
RU9) and am just not finding it.  No Exchange edge server-we have a barracuda 
spam firewall on the outside.

For example, I see a screenshot here of the configuration, but I can't find 
this screen anywhere.
http://exchangepedia.com/blog/2007/02/exchange-2007-content-filter-how-to_07.html

If I run get-organizationconfig I can see the "SCLJunkThreshold" value is set 
to 4.

Get-contentfilterconfig shows the DN of the object to be under Transport 
Settings, but I only have two tabs in the properties of Transport settings 
under \Organization Configuration\Hub Transport.  I'm SUPPOSED to be logged on 
with an admin with all of the correct rights, but I'm starting to wonder if 
there is a permission out of whack somewhere.

-Bonnie

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Isn't this controlled by "antispam agent settings" on the hub transport/edge?

If you are in online mode, Outlook shouldn't process Junk Email itself - but it 
still can be processed server-side.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

And if I'm reading correctly, Outlook 2007 should not be using the junk folders 
in online mode-is that correct?  We've been non-cached mode for a long time, 
and I've verified that has not changed on many of the accounts where this is 
happening.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc178957.aspx (Supported Account 
types section)

Does not supported actually mean it doesn't work, or you shouldn't do it?  In 
other words, something could be turning on our junk filter settings (like a 
group policy) and it's suddenly trying to work, but really just isn't supported?

If I look at my junk filter settings (it has happened to my account as well) it 
shows "low".  Right before I get to the screen to view the settings (actions, 
junk e-mail, junk e-mail options), I get a warning about the filter not being 
available because I'm working online.


From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:21 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: E-mails to junk folder

All of a sudden in the last day or two, many of our internally addressed 
messages are going to the Outlook 2007 (non-cached mode) junk folders for 
different mailboxes.  For example, automated messages from 
a...@mukilteo.wednet.edu<mailto:a...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> end up in junk for 
some users.  So far, all of the messages are ones that come from other servers 
in the domain that are not the actual Exchange server, but are added as servers 
that are authenticated or allowed to relay (by IP address) on one of two 
receive connectors.  Back end is E2k7 SP1 RU9 all roles with latest security 
patches from last week.

I don't know much about how the junk mechanisms work and am just starting to 
dig, but if anyone has seen this or knows right where to go looking I'd 
appreciate it.  I've checked our external IP for blacklisting and am not 
finding it turn up anywhere that I can see.

Thanks,
Bonnie

Re: E-mails to junk folder

2010-02-19 Thread Roger Wright 
I don't have an Ex2007 box so I'm only familiar with Ex2003.  Perhaps
this will help:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa995953(EXCHG.80).aspx



Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___





On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:
> Okay, I just found this: 
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesvrantivirusandantispam/thread/5f4a7a57-e49a-463f-819b-13d5c408f075
>
> So, under the hub transport I right-clicked on the Content filtering and 
> changed it to disabled.  Is that it?
>
> -Bonnie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: FW: E-mails to junk folder
>
> Isn't there a way to disable IMF completely in E2007?  A little
> checkbox perhaps?
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
>  wrote:
>> Well, I'm really at my wit's end here.  SOMETHING has changed to cause the
>> junk filtering in our environment to become extremely aggressive, but since
>> I haven't changed any server configuration related to this since our E2k7
>> rollout in July of 2007, I am at a loss as to explain it.  The only thing I
>> know for sure is that I installed the latest MS security patches late last
>> week, and starting on Tuesday people are getting massive amounts of e-mails
>> to their junk folders.  One person reported messages from Thursday and
>> Friday sent there, but I did not see it, so I still can't pinpoint the
>> trigger.
>>
>>
>>
>> It was just a few tech folks at first, but now I've found out our helpdesk
>> has been getting calls on and off all week about people missing messages.  I
>> already changed the SCLJunkThreshold to 8 and restarted the server.  I've
>> also run the install-AntispamAgents.ps1 that Michael suggested.  After
>> poking around some more, I found there is a new tab near my receive
>> connectors under \Server Configuration\Hub Transport called "Anti-Spam".  In
>> there, I've added IP addresses of our internal (non-exchange) servers to the
>> IP allow list, and after that those messages are no longer being filtered as
>> spam.
>>
>> But, we still have tons of messages coming in from the outside that are
>> getting thrown into junk folders.  These are e-mail addresses that people
>> have been getting things from for months, if not years, and it has never
>> filtered to junk before.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this point, I really want to just shut off junk filtering at Exchange
>> altogether-we have a spam gateway for this and it has worked well-it's what
>> people are used to, and two layers is a lot for everyone to understand.  Is
>> there a way to do that?  Still E2k7 SP1 RU9.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Bonnie
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:25 PM
>>
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Kewl. did not know about that one or it's been so long I forgot.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.expta.com/2008/08/how-to-configure-scl-in-exchange.html
>>
>>
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb201691(EXCHG.80).aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> I've adjusted the SCL level and restarted the transport service for good
>> measure.  Will see if it gets any better-thanks a bunch!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:43 AM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Set the organizationConfig for SCLJunkThreshold to 8. J
>>
>>
>>
>> Those tabs only show up in the EMC if you've run install-AntispamAgents.ps1
>> in $exscripts which causes the relevant DLLs to get registered.
>>
>>
>>
>> Get-TransportAgent shows you what agents are actually installed and can be
>> configured from the EMS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:12 PM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>

Re: E-mails to junk folder

2010-02-19 Thread Roger Wright 
http://www.petri.co.il/install-anti-spam-exchange-2007.htm


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___





On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:
> Okay, I just found this: 
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesvrantivirusandantispam/thread/5f4a7a57-e49a-463f-819b-13d5c408f075
>
> So, under the hub transport I right-clicked on the Content filtering and 
> changed it to disabled.  Is that it?
>
> -Bonnie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: FW: E-mails to junk folder
>
> Isn't there a way to disable IMF completely in E2007?  A little
> checkbox perhaps?
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
>  wrote:
>> Well, I'm really at my wit's end here.  SOMETHING has changed to cause the
>> junk filtering in our environment to become extremely aggressive, but since
>> I haven't changed any server configuration related to this since our E2k7
>> rollout in July of 2007, I am at a loss as to explain it.  The only thing I
>> know for sure is that I installed the latest MS security patches late last
>> week, and starting on Tuesday people are getting massive amounts of e-mails
>> to their junk folders.  One person reported messages from Thursday and
>> Friday sent there, but I did not see it, so I still can't pinpoint the
>> trigger.
>>
>>
>>
>> It was just a few tech folks at first, but now I've found out our helpdesk
>> has been getting calls on and off all week about people missing messages.  I
>> already changed the SCLJunkThreshold to 8 and restarted the server.  I've
>> also run the install-AntispamAgents.ps1 that Michael suggested.  After
>> poking around some more, I found there is a new tab near my receive
>> connectors under \Server Configuration\Hub Transport called "Anti-Spam".  In
>> there, I've added IP addresses of our internal (non-exchange) servers to the
>> IP allow list, and after that those messages are no longer being filtered as
>> spam.
>>
>> But, we still have tons of messages coming in from the outside that are
>> getting thrown into junk folders.  These are e-mail addresses that people
>> have been getting things from for months, if not years, and it has never
>> filtered to junk before.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this point, I really want to just shut off junk filtering at Exchange
>> altogether-we have a spam gateway for this and it has worked well-it's what
>> people are used to, and two layers is a lot for everyone to understand.  Is
>> there a way to do that?  Still E2k7 SP1 RU9.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Bonnie
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:25 PM
>>
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Kewl. did not know about that one or it's been so long I forgot.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.expta.com/2008/08/how-to-configure-scl-in-exchange.html
>>
>>
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb201691(EXCHG.80).aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> I've adjusted the SCL level and restarted the transport service for good
>> measure.  Will see if it gets any better-thanks a bunch!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:43 AM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Set the organizationConfig for SCLJunkThreshold to 8. J
>>
>>
>>
>> Those tabs only show up in the EMC if you've run install-AntispamAgents.ps1
>> in $exscripts which causes the relevant DLLs to get registered.
>>
>>
>>
>> Get-TransportAgent shows you what agents are actually installed and can be
>> configured from the EMS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:12 PM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Michael-so, do you know where exactly I might find that in EMC?  I'v

RE: E-mails to junk folder

2010-02-19 Thread Miller Bonnie L . 
Hmm... the kicker though is that I only just installed the script after 
changing the SCL level didn't seem to help any--it's not something I have 
installed on our BE server in the past.  Now that it's installed, I found the 
buttons to disable most everything and we'll see if it's better over the 
weekend.  Not sure what else to do.

-Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: E-mails to junk folder

http://www.petri.co.il/install-anti-spam-exchange-2007.htm


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___





On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:
> Okay, I just found this: 
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesvrantivirusandantispam/thread/5f4a7a57-e49a-463f-819b-13d5c408f075
>
> So, under the hub transport I right-clicked on the Content filtering and 
> changed it to disabled.  Is that it?
>
> -Bonnie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: FW: E-mails to junk folder
>
> Isn't there a way to disable IMF completely in E2007?  A little
> checkbox perhaps?
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
>  wrote:
>> Well, I'm really at my wit's end here.  SOMETHING has changed to cause the
>> junk filtering in our environment to become extremely aggressive, but since
>> I haven't changed any server configuration related to this since our E2k7
>> rollout in July of 2007, I am at a loss as to explain it.  The only thing I
>> know for sure is that I installed the latest MS security patches late last
>> week, and starting on Tuesday people are getting massive amounts of e-mails
>> to their junk folders.  One person reported messages from Thursday and
>> Friday sent there, but I did not see it, so I still can't pinpoint the
>> trigger.
>>
>>
>>
>> It was just a few tech folks at first, but now I've found out our helpdesk
>> has been getting calls on and off all week about people missing messages.  I
>> already changed the SCLJunkThreshold to 8 and restarted the server.  I've
>> also run the install-AntispamAgents.ps1 that Michael suggested.  After
>> poking around some more, I found there is a new tab near my receive
>> connectors under \Server Configuration\Hub Transport called "Anti-Spam".  In
>> there, I've added IP addresses of our internal (non-exchange) servers to the
>> IP allow list, and after that those messages are no longer being filtered as
>> spam.
>>
>> But, we still have tons of messages coming in from the outside that are
>> getting thrown into junk folders.  These are e-mail addresses that people
>> have been getting things from for months, if not years, and it has never
>> filtered to junk before.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this point, I really want to just shut off junk filtering at Exchange
>> altogether-we have a spam gateway for this and it has worked well-it's what
>> people are used to, and two layers is a lot for everyone to understand.  Is
>> there a way to do that?  Still E2k7 SP1 RU9.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Bonnie
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:25 PM
>>
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Kewl. did not know about that one or it's been so long I forgot.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.expta.com/2008/08/how-to-configure-scl-in-exchange.html
>>
>>
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb201691(EXCHG.80).aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> I've adjusted the SCL level and restarted the transport service for good
>> measure.  Will see if it gets any better-thanks a bunch!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:43 AM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Set the organizationConfig for SCLJunkThreshold to 8. J
>>
>>
>>
>> Those tabs only show up in the EMC if you've run install-AntispamAgents.ps1
>> in $exscripts which causes the relevant DLLs to get registered.
>>
>>
>>
>> Get-TransportAgent shows you what agents are actually installed and can be
>> configured from

RE: E-mails to junk folder

2010-02-19 Thread Michael B. Smith 
I think you've taken the right action.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Hmm... the kicker though is that I only just installed the script after 
changing the SCL level didn't seem to help any--it's not something I have 
installed on our BE server in the past.  Now that it's installed, I found the 
buttons to disable most everything and we'll see if it's better over the 
weekend.  Not sure what else to do.

-Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: E-mails to junk folder

http://www.petri.co.il/install-anti-spam-exchange-2007.htm


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___





On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:
> Okay, I just found this: 
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesvrantivirusa
> ndantispam/thread/5f4a7a57-e49a-463f-819b-13d5c408f075
>
> So, under the hub transport I right-clicked on the Content filtering and 
> changed it to disabled.  Is that it?
>
> -Bonnie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: FW: E-mails to junk folder
>
> Isn't there a way to disable IMF completely in E2007?  A little 
> checkbox perhaps?
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
>  wrote:
>> Well, I'm really at my wit's end here.  SOMETHING has changed to 
>> cause the junk filtering in our environment to become extremely 
>> aggressive, but since I haven't changed any server configuration 
>> related to this since our E2k7 rollout in July of 2007, I am at a 
>> loss as to explain it.  The only thing I know for sure is that I 
>> installed the latest MS security patches late last week, and starting 
>> on Tuesday people are getting massive amounts of e-mails to their 
>> junk folders.  One person reported messages from Thursday and Friday 
>> sent there, but I did not see it, so I still can't pinpoint the trigger.
>>
>>
>>
>> It was just a few tech folks at first, but now I've found out our 
>> helpdesk has been getting calls on and off all week about people 
>> missing messages.  I already changed the SCLJunkThreshold to 8 and 
>> restarted the server.  I've also run the install-AntispamAgents.ps1 
>> that Michael suggested.  After poking around some more, I found there 
>> is a new tab near my receive connectors under \Server 
>> Configuration\Hub Transport called "Anti-Spam".  In there, I've added 
>> IP addresses of our internal (non-exchange) servers to the IP allow 
>> list, and after that those messages are no longer being filtered as spam.
>>
>> But, we still have tons of messages coming in from the outside that 
>> are getting thrown into junk folders.  These are e-mail addresses 
>> that people have been getting things from for months, if not years, 
>> and it has never filtered to junk before.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this point, I really want to just shut off junk filtering at 
>> Exchange altogether-we have a spam gateway for this and it has worked 
>> well-it's what people are used to, and two layers is a lot for 
>> everyone to understand.  Is there a way to do that?  Still E2k7 SP1 RU9.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Bonnie
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:25 PM
>>
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Kewl. did not know about that one or it's been so long I forgot.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.expta.com/2008/08/how-to-configure-scl-in-exchange.html
>>
>>
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb201691(EXCHG.80).aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> I've adjusted the SCL level and restarted the transport service for 
>> good measure.  Will see if it gets any better-thanks a bunch!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:43 AM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Set the organizationConfig

RE: E-mails to junk folder

2010-02-19 Thread Miller Bonnie L . 
Thanks Michael--We'll see what happens!

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

I think you've taken the right action.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Hmm... the kicker though is that I only just installed the script after 
changing the SCL level didn't seem to help any--it's not something I have 
installed on our BE server in the past.  Now that it's installed, I found the 
buttons to disable most everything and we'll see if it's better over the 
weekend.  Not sure what else to do.

-Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: E-mails to junk folder

http://www.petri.co.il/install-anti-spam-exchange-2007.htm


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___





On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:
> Okay, I just found this: 
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesvrantivirusa
> ndantispam/thread/5f4a7a57-e49a-463f-819b-13d5c408f075
>
> So, under the hub transport I right-clicked on the Content filtering and 
> changed it to disabled.  Is that it?
>
> -Bonnie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: FW: E-mails to junk folder
>
> Isn't there a way to disable IMF completely in E2007?  A little 
> checkbox perhaps?
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
>  wrote:
>> Well, I'm really at my wit's end here.  SOMETHING has changed to 
>> cause the junk filtering in our environment to become extremely 
>> aggressive, but since I haven't changed any server configuration 
>> related to this since our E2k7 rollout in July of 2007, I am at a 
>> loss as to explain it.  The only thing I know for sure is that I 
>> installed the latest MS security patches late last week, and starting 
>> on Tuesday people are getting massive amounts of e-mails to their 
>> junk folders.  One person reported messages from Thursday and Friday 
>> sent there, but I did not see it, so I still can't pinpoint the trigger.
>>
>>
>>
>> It was just a few tech folks at first, but now I've found out our 
>> helpdesk has been getting calls on and off all week about people 
>> missing messages.  I already changed the SCLJunkThreshold to 8 and 
>> restarted the server.  I've also run the install-AntispamAgents.ps1 
>> that Michael suggested.  After poking around some more, I found there 
>> is a new tab near my receive connectors under \Server 
>> Configuration\Hub Transport called "Anti-Spam".  In there, I've added 
>> IP addresses of our internal (non-exchange) servers to the IP allow 
>> list, and after that those messages are no longer being filtered as spam.
>>
>> But, we still have tons of messages coming in from the outside that 
>> are getting thrown into junk folders.  These are e-mail addresses 
>> that people have been getting things from for months, if not years, 
>> and it has never filtered to junk before.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this point, I really want to just shut off junk filtering at 
>> Exchange altogether-we have a spam gateway for this and it has worked 
>> well-it's what people are used to, and two layers is a lot for 
>> everyone to understand.  Is there a way to do that?  Still E2k7 SP1 RU9.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Bonnie
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:25 PM
>>
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder
>>
>>
>>
>> Kewl. did not know about that one or it's been so long I forgot.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.expta.com/2008/08/how-to-configure-scl-in-exchange.html
>>
>>
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb201691(EXCHG.80).aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> I've adjusted the SCL level and restarted the transport service for 
>> good measure.  Will see if it gets any better-thanks a bunch!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Michae

RE: E-mails to junk folder

2010-02-22 Thread Miller Bonnie L . 
So, I did have to restart the server one more time after disabling everything.  
That actually makes sense since the changes are at the Org level.

After that, some of the messages I have that were going to junk are now going 
to the inbox.  I've checked with a few other people and they are getting the 
same results as well with other messages.

I still wish I knew what triggered it.  I've looked back through my notebooks 
and the SCL level was set to 4 way back in July of 2007.  It's almost like it 
has never really worked right and then all of a sudden it started filtering 
after the updates or the reboot from the updates.  Prior to that, the server 
was last rebooted with January updates.

Thanks for all the help!

-Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Thanks Michael--We'll see what happens!

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

I think you've taken the right action.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Hmm... the kicker though is that I only just installed the script after 
changing the SCL level didn't seem to help any--it's not something I have 
installed on our BE server in the past.  Now that it's installed, I found the 
buttons to disable most everything and we'll see if it's better over the 
weekend.  Not sure what else to do.

-Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: E-mails to junk folder

http://www.petri.co.il/install-anti-spam-exchange-2007.htm


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___





On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:
> Okay, I just found this: 
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesvrantivirusa
> ndantispam/thread/5f4a7a57-e49a-463f-819b-13d5c408f075
>
> So, under the hub transport I right-clicked on the Content filtering and 
> changed it to disabled.  Is that it?
>
> -Bonnie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: FW: E-mails to junk folder
>
> Isn't there a way to disable IMF completely in E2007?  A little 
> checkbox perhaps?
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
>  wrote:
>> Well, I'm really at my wit's end here.  SOMETHING has changed to 
>> cause the junk filtering in our environment to become extremely 
>> aggressive, but since I haven't changed any server configuration 
>> related to this since our E2k7 rollout in July of 2007, I am at a 
>> loss as to explain it.  The only thing I know for sure is that I 
>> installed the latest MS security patches late last week, and starting 
>> on Tuesday people are getting massive amounts of e-mails to their 
>> junk folders.  One person reported messages from Thursday and Friday 
>> sent there, but I did not see it, so I still can't pinpoint the trigger.
>>
>>
>>
>> It was just a few tech folks at first, but now I've found out our 
>> helpdesk has been getting calls on and off all week about people 
>> missing messages.  I already changed the SCLJunkThreshold to 8 and 
>> restarted the server.  I've also run the install-AntispamAgents.ps1 
>> that Michael suggested.  After poking around some more, I found there 
>> is a new tab near my receive connectors under \Server 
>> Configuration\Hub Transport called "Anti-Spam".  In there, I've added 
>> IP addresses of our internal (non-exchange) servers to the IP allow 
>> list, and after that those messages are no longer being filtered as spam.
>>
>> But, we still have tons of messages coming in from the outside that 
>> are getting thrown into junk folders.  These are e-mail addresses 
>> that people have been getting things from for months, if not years, 
>> and it has never filtered to junk before.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this point, I really want to just shut off junk filtering at 
>> Exchange altogether-we have a spam gateway for this and it has worked 
>> well-it's what people are used to, and two

RE: E-mails to junk folder

2010-02-22 Thread Don Andrews 
Sure underscores the reason to have an external AS gateway.

-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

So, I did have to restart the server one more time after disabling everything.  
That actually makes sense since the changes are at the Org level.

After that, some of the messages I have that were going to junk are now going 
to the inbox.  I've checked with a few other people and they are getting the 
same results as well with other messages.

I still wish I knew what triggered it.  I've looked back through my notebooks 
and the SCL level was set to 4 way back in July of 2007.  It's almost like it 
has never really worked right and then all of a sudden it started filtering 
after the updates or the reboot from the updates.  Prior to that, the server 
was last rebooted with January updates.

Thanks for all the help!

-Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Thanks Michael--We'll see what happens!

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

I think you've taken the right action.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: E-mails to junk folder

Hmm... the kicker though is that I only just installed the script after 
changing the SCL level didn't seem to help any--it's not something I have 
installed on our BE server in the past.  Now that it's installed, I found the 
buttons to disable most everything and we'll see if it's better over the 
weekend.  Not sure what else to do.

-Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: E-mails to junk folder

http://www.petri.co.il/install-anti-spam-exchange-2007.htm


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___





On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:
> Okay, I just found this: 
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesvrantivirusa
> ndantispam/thread/5f4a7a57-e49a-463f-819b-13d5c408f075
>
> So, under the hub transport I right-clicked on the Content filtering and 
> changed it to disabled.  Is that it?
>
> -Bonnie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: FW: E-mails to junk folder
>
> Isn't there a way to disable IMF completely in E2007?  A little 
> checkbox perhaps?
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
>  wrote:
>> Well, I'm really at my wit's end here.  SOMETHING has changed to 
>> cause the junk filtering in our environment to become extremely 
>> aggressive, but since I haven't changed any server configuration 
>> related to this since our E2k7 rollout in July of 2007, I am at a 
>> loss as to explain it.  The only thing I know for sure is that I 
>> installed the latest MS security patches late last week, and starting 
>> on Tuesday people are getting massive amounts of e-mails to their 
>> junk folders.  One person reported messages from Thursday and Friday 
>> sent there, but I did not see it, so I still can't pinpoint the trigger.
>>
>>
>>
>> It was just a few tech folks at first, but now I've found out our 
>> helpdesk has been getting calls on and off all week about people 
>> missing messages.  I already changed the SCLJunkThreshold to 8 and 
>> restarted the server.  I've also run the install-AntispamAgents.ps1 
>> that Michael suggested.  After poking around some more, I found there 
>> is a new tab near my receive connectors under \Server 
>> Configuration\Hub Transport called "Anti-Spam".  In there, I've added 
>> IP addresses of our internal (non-exchange) servers to the IP allow 
>> list, and after that those messages are no longer being filtered as spam.
>>
>> But, we still have tons of messages coming in from the outside that 
>> are getting thrown into junk folders.  These are e-mail addresses 
>> that people have been getting things from for months, if not years, 
>> and it has never filtered to junk