RE: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix

2002-08-01 Thread Rob Wilcox

Do you mean Q316056 ?  The changes in that are going to be in SP3, as
there are later builds of system attendant.

Q320436 towards the bottom of the article it says that it is first fixed
in SP 3.

As post-sp2 fixes are developed there comes a point of cut off whereby
the post-sp2 fixes continue for a little while, but those changes aren't
applied to SP3, as that code becomes frozen.  So there will be a
post-sp2 hotfix for something, and also a post-sp3 hot fix for it as
well.

I would say since there are later builds of system attendant referenced
in q articles on microsoft.com, that you have those in SP 3.

With regards to removing them from add/remove programs.. Hmm not sure.
I certainly wouldn't do it on a production machine !

Thanks
Rob

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Baird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 01 August 2002 15:16
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix


I installed Windows 2000 SP3, then Exchange 2000 SP3 on our 'test'
production box (it's a desktop configured equal to our production
server)

It had the following to Post-SP2 hotfixes on it:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q320436
(Malformed Mail Attack)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q316056
(Admin Tool Fixes)

When I installed SP3 for Exchange, it left both in add/remove.

Looking at the Exchange SP3 fix list, Q320436 is there as included.
Q316056 is not, and its Q articles still says Post-SP2.

An Example file from Q320436
29-Apr-2002  15:04  6.0.5770.91676,352
%EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll
--After SP3 Install
18-Jun-2002  10:17  6.0.6249.0  660,000
%EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll

An Example file from Q315056
Mad.exe 6.0.5770.21 
--After SP3 Install
Mad.exe 6.0.6249.0

So, 2 questions:

1. Is Q315056 included in SP3 even though the include list doesn't have
it. 2. Should I remove them both through add/remove or will this cause
issues?


Thanks All!


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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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Re: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix

2002-08-01 Thread Matt Moore

from reading some of the articles on sp3 I have gleaned that if sp3 says
it's going to change files associated with a particular hotfix you must
reinstall the hotfix after sp3.  somebody stop me if I'm wrong.  I'm going
to do a little more research before jumping in with both feet.  most of my
clients only have production machines so I don't have the luxury of testing
in their environment first.
Matt
- Original Message -
From: Rob Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix


 Do you mean Q316056 ?  The changes in that are going to be in SP3, as
 there are later builds of system attendant.

 Q320436 towards the bottom of the article it says that it is first fixed
 in SP 3.

 As post-sp2 fixes are developed there comes a point of cut off whereby
 the post-sp2 fixes continue for a little while, but those changes aren't
 applied to SP3, as that code becomes frozen.  So there will be a
 post-sp2 hotfix for something, and also a post-sp3 hot fix for it as
 well.

 I would say since there are later builds of system attendant referenced
 in q articles on microsoft.com, that you have those in SP 3.

 With regards to removing them from add/remove programs.. Hmm not sure.
 I certainly wouldn't do it on a production machine !

 Thanks
 Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: Patrick Baird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 01 August 2002 15:16
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix


 I installed Windows 2000 SP3, then Exchange 2000 SP3 on our 'test'
 production box (it's a desktop configured equal to our production
 server)

 It had the following to Post-SP2 hotfixes on it:
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q320436
 (Malformed Mail Attack)
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q316056
 (Admin Tool Fixes)

 When I installed SP3 for Exchange, it left both in add/remove.

 Looking at the Exchange SP3 fix list, Q320436 is there as included.
 Q316056 is not, and its Q articles still says Post-SP2.

 An Example file from Q320436
 29-Apr-2002  15:04  6.0.5770.91676,352
 %EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll
 --After SP3 Install
 18-Jun-2002  10:17  6.0.6249.0 660,000
 %EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll

 An Example file from Q315056
 Mad.exe 6.0.5770.21
 --After SP3 Install
 Mad.exe 6.0.6249.0

 So, 2 questions:

 1. Is Q315056 included in SP3 even though the include list doesn't have
 it. 2. Should I remove them both through add/remove or will this cause
 issues?


 Thanks All!


 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



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RE: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix

2002-08-01 Thread Randal, Phil

Here's the list of hotfixes which might cause problems with SP3:

  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q309601

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 01 August 2002 18:27
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 
 Security Hotfix
 
 
 Do you mean Q316056 ?  The changes in that are going to be in SP3, as
 there are later builds of system attendant.
 
 Q320436 towards the bottom of the article it says that it is 
 first fixed
 in SP 3.
 
 As post-sp2 fixes are developed there comes a point of cut off whereby
 the post-sp2 fixes continue for a little while, but those 
 changes aren't
 applied to SP3, as that code becomes frozen.  So there will be a
 post-sp2 hotfix for something, and also a post-sp3 hot fix for it as
 well.
 
 I would say since there are later builds of system attendant 
 referenced
 in q articles on microsoft.com, that you have those in SP 3.
 
 With regards to removing them from add/remove programs.. Hmm not sure.
 I certainly wouldn't do it on a production machine !
 
 Thanks
 Rob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Patrick Baird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 01 August 2002 15:16
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix
 
 
 I installed Windows 2000 SP3, then Exchange 2000 SP3 on our 'test'
 production box (it's a desktop configured equal to our production
 server)
 
 It had the following to Post-SP2 hotfixes on it:
   http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q320436
 (Malformed Mail Attack)
   http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q316056
 (Admin Tool Fixes)
 
 When I installed SP3 for Exchange, it left both in add/remove.
 
 Looking at the Exchange SP3 fix list, Q320436 is there as included.
 Q316056 is not, and its Q articles still says Post-SP2.
 
 An Example file from Q320436
   29-Apr-2002  15:04  6.0.5770.91676,352
 %EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll
 --After SP3 Install
   18-Jun-2002  10:17  6.0.6249.0  660,000
 %EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll
 
 An Example file from Q315056
   Mad.exe 6.0.5770.21 
 --After SP3 Install
   Mad.exe 6.0.6249.0
 
 So, 2 questions:
 
 1. Is Q315056 included in SP3 even though the include list 
 doesn't have
 it. 2. Should I remove them both through add/remove or will this cause
 issues?
 
 
 Thanks All!
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

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Re: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix

2002-08-01 Thread Matt Moore

oops thought you were talking about win2k sp3.  gotta put my glasses on.
M
- Original Message - 
From: Rob Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix


 Do you mean Q316056 ?  The changes in that are going to be in SP3, as
 there are later builds of system attendant.
 
 Q320436 towards the bottom of the article it says that it is first fixed
 in SP 3.
 
 As post-sp2 fixes are developed there comes a point of cut off whereby
 the post-sp2 fixes continue for a little while, but those changes aren't
 applied to SP3, as that code becomes frozen.  So there will be a
 post-sp2 hotfix for something, and also a post-sp3 hot fix for it as
 well.
 
 I would say since there are later builds of system attendant referenced
 in q articles on microsoft.com, that you have those in SP 3.
 
 With regards to removing them from add/remove programs.. Hmm not sure.
 I certainly wouldn't do it on a production machine !
 
 Thanks
 Rob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Patrick Baird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 01 August 2002 15:16
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix
 
 
 I installed Windows 2000 SP3, then Exchange 2000 SP3 on our 'test'
 production box (it's a desktop configured equal to our production
 server)
 
 It had the following to Post-SP2 hotfixes on it:
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q320436
 (Malformed Mail Attack)
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q316056
 (Admin Tool Fixes)
 
 When I installed SP3 for Exchange, it left both in add/remove.
 
 Looking at the Exchange SP3 fix list, Q320436 is there as included.
 Q316056 is not, and its Q articles still says Post-SP2.
 
 An Example file from Q320436
 29-Apr-2002  15:04  6.0.5770.91676,352
 %EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll
 --After SP3 Install
 18-Jun-2002  10:17  6.0.6249.0 660,000
 %EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll
 
 An Example file from Q315056
 Mad.exe 6.0.5770.21
 --After SP3 Install
 Mad.exe 6.0.6249.0
 
 So, 2 questions:
 
 1. Is Q315056 included in SP3 even though the include list doesn't have
 it. 2. Should I remove them both through add/remove or will this cause
 issues?
 
 
 Thanks All!
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 

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RE: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix

2002-08-01 Thread Rob Wilcox

Phil, that's for W2K SP 3, not E2K SP 3...

-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 01 August 2002 18:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix


Here's the list of hotfixes which might cause problems with SP3:

  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q309601

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 01 August 2002 18:27
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2
 Security Hotfix
 
 
 Do you mean Q316056 ?  The changes in that are going to be in SP3, as 
 there are later builds of system attendant.
 
 Q320436 towards the bottom of the article it says that it is
 first fixed
 in SP 3.
 
 As post-sp2 fixes are developed there comes a point of cut off whereby

 the post-sp2 fixes continue for a little while, but those changes 
 aren't applied to SP3, as that code becomes frozen.  So there will be 
 a post-sp2 hotfix for something, and also a post-sp3 hot fix for it as
 well.
 
 I would say since there are later builds of system attendant
 referenced
 in q articles on microsoft.com, that you have those in SP 3.
 
 With regards to removing them from add/remove programs.. Hmm not sure.

 I certainly wouldn't do it on a production machine !
 
 Thanks
 Rob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Patrick Baird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 01 August 2002 15:16
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix
 
 
 I installed Windows 2000 SP3, then Exchange 2000 SP3 on our 'test' 
 production box (it's a desktop configured equal to our production
 server)
 
 It had the following to Post-SP2 hotfixes on it:
   http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q320436
 (Malformed Mail Attack)
   http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q316056
 (Admin Tool Fixes)
 
 When I installed SP3 for Exchange, it left both in add/remove.
 
 Looking at the Exchange SP3 fix list, Q320436 is there as included. 
 Q316056 is not, and its Q articles still says Post-SP2.
 
 An Example file from Q320436
   29-Apr-2002  15:04  6.0.5770.91676,352
 %EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll
 --After SP3 Install
   18-Jun-2002  10:17  6.0.6249.0  660,000
 %EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll
 
 An Example file from Q315056
   Mad.exe 6.0.5770.21
 --After SP3 Install
   Mad.exe 6.0.6249.0
 
 So, 2 questions:
 
 1. Is Q315056 included in SP3 even though the include list
 doesn't have
 it. 2. Should I remove them both through add/remove or will this cause
 issues?
 
 
 Thanks All!
 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at: 
 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 
 
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 http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 

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RE: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix

2002-08-01 Thread Rob Wilcox

Re Q316056..

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q320263 is IN
SP3 from my previous massively long link.

So Q316056 will be in too.

Sorted?

Thanks
Rob

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Baird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 01 August 2002 15:16
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix


I installed Windows 2000 SP3, then Exchange 2000 SP3 on our 'test'
production box (it's a desktop configured equal to our production
server)

It had the following to Post-SP2 hotfixes on it:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q320436
(Malformed Mail Attack)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q316056
(Admin Tool Fixes)

When I installed SP3 for Exchange, it left both in add/remove.

Looking at the Exchange SP3 fix list, Q320436 is there as included.
Q316056 is not, and its Q articles still says Post-SP2.

An Example file from Q320436
29-Apr-2002  15:04  6.0.5770.91676,352
%EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll
--After SP3 Install
18-Jun-2002  10:17  6.0.6249.0  660,000
%EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll

An Example file from Q315056
Mad.exe 6.0.5770.21 
--After SP3 Install
Mad.exe 6.0.6249.0

So, 2 questions:

1. Is Q315056 included in SP3 even though the include list doesn't have
it. 2. Should I remove them both through add/remove or will this cause
issues?


Thanks All!


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix

2002-08-01 Thread Patrick Baird

Ok, thanks for the info.  I think that Q320263 was changed after I sent
that email, because I know I didn't see it this morning, but then again
I never know what I think I know.

Anyone have ideas about them in Add/Remove?

-Original Message-
From: Rob Wilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix


Re Q316056..

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q320263 is IN
SP3 from my previous massively long link.

So Q316056 will be in too.

Sorted?

Thanks
Rob

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Baird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 01 August 2002 15:16
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2000 SP3 - Doesn't remove Post-SP2 Security Hotfix


I installed Windows 2000 SP3, then Exchange 2000 SP3 on our 'test'
production box (it's a desktop configured equal to our production
server)

It had the following to Post-SP2 hotfixes on it:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q320436
(Malformed Mail Attack)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q316056
(Admin Tool Fixes)

When I installed SP3 for Exchange, it left both in add/remove.

Looking at the Exchange SP3 fix list, Q320436 is there as included.
Q316056 is not, and its Q articles still says Post-SP2.

An Example file from Q320436
29-Apr-2002  15:04  6.0.5770.91676,352
%EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll
--After SP3 Install
18-Jun-2002  10:17  6.0.6249.0  660,000
%EXSRVROOT%\Bin\Davex.dll

An Example file from Q315056
Mad.exe 6.0.5770.21 
--After SP3 Install
Mad.exe 6.0.6249.0

So, 2 questions:

1. Is Q315056 included in SP3 even though the include list doesn't have
it. 2. Should I remove them both through add/remove or will this cause
issues?


Thanks All!


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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