RE: [Bulk] RE: GFI - Ugh

2013-02-20 Thread Orland, Kathleen
We are using Proofpoint as well. The only issue I can see is that if you
send notices to users, the average user is going to find it too complicated
to figure out how to release and/or Safelist. We have stopped sending daily
notices to users as a result. 

 

From: Reische Jay [mailto:reische...@johndeere.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: [Bulk] RE: GFI - Ugh

 

We have used Proofpoint
http://www.proofpoint.com/products/protection/index.php  for the last 4
years with no real issues. They are a leader in Gartner's magic quadrant as
well.

 

Anti-spam

Anti-virus

DLP

Encryption

 

 

Jay Reische

SME, Enterprise Messaging

 

400 19th Street, Moline, IL

Office: 309-748-4704

 

 

From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: GFI - Ugh

 

Interesting experience this week that I thought I would share.

 

We use GFI MailEssentials and MailSecurity. Not really thrilled with it, but
when Sunbelt merged into GFI, we ended up going down that route.

 

The other day, I get an email saying our maintenance will expire in 60 days.
I follow the link and renew for a year.

 

I then get an email from a GFI sales rep saying that what I had renewed
wasn't correct. They would send me a new quote. They did. It was higher than
what I'd ordered from their original email.

 

I told them I'd have to look at some other options but may not going through
with the renewal. Then they tell me there are no refunds, so I will lose the
$503 they originally charged me for the product I renewed from the link they
sent in their email that was incorrect.

 

What a bait-and-switch! Here, renew this. Thanks. We have your money. Oops,
we sent you the wrong renewal quote. The actual one is higher. No refunds.
I doubt Sunbelt would have ever done that.

 

Anyway, who has a good suggestion for anti-spam products that would
integrate well in an Exchange 2010 and Outlook 2007 environment?

 

Thanks all,

 

Evan

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RE: GFI - Ugh

2013-02-20 Thread Stu Sjouwerman
I replied off-line with a suggested solution Evan !

Warm regards,
Stu

From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: GFI - Ugh

Interesting experience this week that I thought I would share.

We use GFI MailEssentials and MailSecurity. Not really thrilled with it, but 
when Sunbelt merged into GFI, we ended up going down that route.

The other day, I get an email saying our maintenance will expire in 60 days. I 
follow the link and renew for a year.

I then get an email from a GFI sales rep saying that what I had renewed wasn't 
correct. They would send me a new quote. They did. It was higher than what I'd 
ordered from their original email.

I told them I'd have to look at some other options but may not going through 
with the renewal. Then they tell me there are no refunds, so I will lose the 
$503 they originally charged me for the product I renewed from the link they 
sent in their email that was incorrect.

What a bait-and-switch! Here, renew this. Thanks. We have your money. Oops, we 
sent you the wrong renewal quote. The actual one is higher. No refunds.  I 
doubt Sunbelt would have ever done that.

Anyway, who has a good suggestion for anti-spam products that would integrate 
well in an Exchange 2010 and Outlook 2007 environment?

Thanks all,

Evan

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RE: GFI - Ugh

2013-02-20 Thread Evan Brastow
Hi guys,



Thank you for all of your opinions and help, including off-list.



I wanted to give you an update, since I should report the good with the bad.



The bad was the way this was handled by GFI in the first place. That was 
explained in my first email.



But the good is that a couple of different people from GFI spoke with me today 
and we have cleared this up. They are going to credit me the money they charged 
me. So, I wanted to thank them publicly for taking the time to explain their 
position and to help make this right.



Evan


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Phone: (508) 543-6511   Ext. 109
Fax: (508) 543-6512

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Proverb

From: John Matteson [mailto:john.matte...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: GFI - Ugh

Hi Evan:

  I think that's called ILLEGAL. Don't swallow the lost money, make a 
stink about it, first with the sales department, then with the higher up's in 
the company. Quotes are legally binding documents once they are executed.

John M.

From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: GFI - Ugh

Interesting experience this week that I thought I would share.

We use GFI MailEssentials and MailSecurity. Not really thrilled with it, but 
when Sunbelt merged into GFI, we ended up going down that route.

The other day, I get an email saying our maintenance will expire in 60 days. I 
follow the link and renew for a year.

I then get an email from a GFI sales rep saying that what I had renewed wasn't 
correct. They would send me a new quote. They did. It was higher than what I'd 
ordered from their original email.

I told them I'd have to look at some other options but may not going through 
with the renewal. Then they tell me there are no refunds, so I will lose the 
$503 they originally charged me for the product I renewed from the link they 
sent in their email that was incorrect.

What a bait-and-switch! Here, renew this. Thanks. We have your money. Oops, we 
sent you the wrong renewal quote. The actual one is higher. No refunds.  I 
doubt Sunbelt would have ever done that.

Anyway, who has a good suggestion for anti-spam products that would integrate 
well in an Exchange 2010 and Outlook 2007 environment?

Thanks all,

Evan

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RE: GFI - Ugh

2013-02-19 Thread Mayo, Bill
I would suggest getting an external appliance.  We use IronPort and are happy 
with it.

As far as the comments about GFI/Sunbelt, I will say that my general 
experiences with GFI used to be great and have gone downhill since they merged 
with Sunbelt.

From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: GFI - Ugh

Interesting experience this week that I thought I would share.

We use GFI MailEssentials and MailSecurity. Not really thrilled with it, but 
when Sunbelt merged into GFI, we ended up going down that route.

The other day, I get an email saying our maintenance will expire in 60 days. I 
follow the link and renew for a year.

I then get an email from a GFI sales rep saying that what I had renewed wasn't 
correct. They would send me a new quote. They did. It was higher than what I'd 
ordered from their original email.

I told them I'd have to look at some other options but may not going through 
with the renewal. Then they tell me there are no refunds, so I will lose the 
$503 they originally charged me for the product I renewed from the link they 
sent in their email that was incorrect.

What a bait-and-switch! Here, renew this. Thanks. We have your money. Oops, we 
sent you the wrong renewal quote. The actual one is higher. No refunds.  I 
doubt Sunbelt would have ever done that.

Anyway, who has a good suggestion for anti-spam products that would integrate 
well in an Exchange 2010 and Outlook 2007 environment?

Thanks all,

Evan

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RE: GFI - Ugh

2013-02-19 Thread Reische Jay
We have used 
Proofpointhttp://www.proofpoint.com/products/protection/index.php for the 
last 4 years with no real issues. They are a leader in Gartner's magic quadrant 
as well.

Anti-spam
Anti-virus
DLP
Encryption


Jay Reische
SME, Enterprise Messaging

400 19th Street, Moline, IL
Office: 309-748-4704



From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: GFI - Ugh

Interesting experience this week that I thought I would share.

We use GFI MailEssentials and MailSecurity. Not really thrilled with it, but 
when Sunbelt merged into GFI, we ended up going down that route.

The other day, I get an email saying our maintenance will expire in 60 days. I 
follow the link and renew for a year.

I then get an email from a GFI sales rep saying that what I had renewed wasn't 
correct. They would send me a new quote. They did. It was higher than what I'd 
ordered from their original email.

I told them I'd have to look at some other options but may not going through 
with the renewal. Then they tell me there are no refunds, so I will lose the 
$503 they originally charged me for the product I renewed from the link they 
sent in their email that was incorrect.

What a bait-and-switch! Here, renew this. Thanks. We have your money. Oops, we 
sent you the wrong renewal quote. The actual one is higher. No refunds.  I 
doubt Sunbelt would have ever done that.

Anyway, who has a good suggestion for anti-spam products that would integrate 
well in an Exchange 2010 and Outlook 2007 environment?

Thanks all,

Evan

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RE: GFI - Ugh

2013-02-19 Thread John Matteson
Hi Evan:

 

  I think that's called ILLEGAL. Don't swallow the lost money, make
a stink about it, first with the sales department, then with the higher up's
in the company. Quotes are legally binding documents once they are executed.

 

John M.

 

From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: GFI - Ugh

 

Interesting experience this week that I thought I would share.

 

We use GFI MailEssentials and MailSecurity. Not really thrilled with it, but
when Sunbelt merged into GFI, we ended up going down that route.

 

The other day, I get an email saying our maintenance will expire in 60 days.
I follow the link and renew for a year.

 

I then get an email from a GFI sales rep saying that what I had renewed
wasn't correct. They would send me a new quote. They did. It was higher than
what I'd ordered from their original email.

 

I told them I'd have to look at some other options but may not going through
with the renewal. Then they tell me there are no refunds, so I will lose the
$503 they originally charged me for the product I renewed from the link they
sent in their email that was incorrect.

 

What a bait-and-switch! Here, renew this. Thanks. We have your money. Oops,
we sent you the wrong renewal quote. The actual one is higher. No refunds.
I doubt Sunbelt would have ever done that.

 

Anyway, who has a good suggestion for anti-spam products that would
integrate well in an Exchange 2010 and Outlook 2007 environment?

 

Thanks all,

 

Evan

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