RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t
Yes, I realized that after I sent it. The real problem is that I am up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses. I don't want to have to track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list. More preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before it even gets into the input queue. This might discourage the spammers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Huh? If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the message just disappears no NDR is sent. or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - If insane people had more money they would just be eccentric. - -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can't From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to do what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a message without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a mailbox. This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct? The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Steve Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your workload/aggravation quotient. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone else - theoretically still busy) Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is this a good thing? :-) -Original Message- From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add those smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to unsub them. I've had some success doing so. Sometimes you have to view the source document, and cut/paste the url. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? me too. In a previous post I asked if a message could be rejected if it had a bogus username (no NDR, no nothing - just kill it in the initial SMTP conversation). The kind folks here informed me recently that Exchange will only check the domain and not really check the entire address against the GAL (although I think the docs on securing an Exchange relay are a bit ambiguous in that regard), so the fake username gets in. I'm trying to find the time to evaluate some content inspection products - hopefully one of them will be able to look at the Exchange userlist and drop incoming based on that criteria. It is nice for legit users to get an NDR - God knows how many honest typo's are made every day. But it would be cool if you could tell your IMS to track NDR's and if enough are going back to the same sending domain or server, maybe start to drop any incoming from
RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t
I've not read all of this email so I may be repeating what has already been said, so apologies if that is the case, but there are 2 things you can do. You can set up a 'catch-all' postmaster account that would receive these emails, or you can add these email addresses as secondary proxy email addresses to other mailboxes, i.e. the administrators. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2001 14:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t Yes, I realized that after I sent it. The real problem is that I am up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses. I don't want to have to track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list. More preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before it even gets into the input queue. This might discourage the spammers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Huh? If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the message just disappears no NDR is sent. or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - If insane people had more money they would just be eccentric. - -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can't From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to do what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a message without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a mailbox. This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct? The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Steve Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your workload/aggravation quotient. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone else - theoretically still busy) Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is this a good thing? :-) -Original Message- From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add those smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to unsub them. I've had some success doing so. Sometimes you have to view the source document, and cut/paste the url. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? me too. In a previous post I asked if a message could be rejected if it had a bogus username (no NDR, no nothing - just kill it in the initial SMTP conversation). The kind folks here informed me recently that Exchange will only check the domain and not really check the entire address against the GAL (although I think the docs on securing an Exchange relay are a bit ambiguous in that regard), so the fake username gets in. I'm
RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t
How do I set up a catch all postmaster account that accepts all mail except those with specific mailboxes WITHOUT having to build a list of bogus e-mail address that will be accepted. -Original Message- From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t I've not read all of this email so I may be repeating what has already been said, so apologies if that is the case, but there are 2 things you can do. You can set up a 'catch-all' postmaster account that would receive these emails, or you can add these email addresses as secondary proxy email addresses to other mailboxes, i.e. the administrators. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2001 14:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t Yes, I realized that after I sent it. The real problem is that I am up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses. I don't want to have to track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list. More preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before it even gets into the input queue. This might discourage the spammers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Huh? If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the message just disappears no NDR is sent. or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - If insane people had more money they would just be eccentric. - -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can't From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to do what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a message without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a mailbox. This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct? The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Steve Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your workload/aggravation quotient. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone else - theoretically still busy) Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is this a good thing? :-) -Original Message- From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add those smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to unsub them. I've had some success doing so. Sometimes you have to view the source document, and cut/paste the url. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? me too. In a previous post I asked if a message could be rejected if it had a bogus
RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t
I might be wrong here because my knowledge of 5.5 is rusty, but I thought all you needed to do was add the secondary email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to a mailbox and that mailbox would now receive all email addressed to your domain that isn't a valid recipient. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2001 14:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t How do I set up a catch all postmaster account that accepts all mail except those with specific mailboxes WITHOUT having to build a list of bogus e-mail address that will be accepted. -Original Message- From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t I've not read all of this email so I may be repeating what has already been said, so apologies if that is the case, but there are 2 things you can do. You can set up a 'catch-all' postmaster account that would receive these emails, or you can add these email addresses as secondary proxy email addresses to other mailboxes, i.e. the administrators. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2001 14:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t Yes, I realized that after I sent it. The real problem is that I am up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses. I don't want to have to track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list. More preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before it even gets into the input queue. This might discourage the spammers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Huh? If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the message just disappears no NDR is sent. or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - If insane people had more money they would just be eccentric. - -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can't From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to do what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a message without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a mailbox. This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct? The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Steve Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your workload/aggravation quotient. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone else - theoretically still busy) Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is this a good thing? :-) -Original Message- From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add those smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to unsub them. I've had some success doing so
RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t
Title: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t You can't. Maybe Kevin Snook already has a utility to help you. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t How do I set up a catch all postmaster account that accepts all mail except those with specific mailboxes WITHOUT having to build a list of bogus e-mail address that will be accepted. -Original Message- From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t I've not read all of this email so I may be repeating what has already been said, so apologies if that is the case, but there are 2 things you can do. You can set up a 'catch-all' postmaster account that would receive these emails, or you can add these email addresses as secondary proxy email addresses to other mailboxes, i.e. the administrators. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2001 14:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t Yes, I realized that after I sent it. The real problem is that I am up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses. I don't want to have to track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list. More preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before it even gets into the input queue. This might discourage the spammers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Huh? If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the message just disappears no NDR is sent. or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - If insane people had more money they would just be eccentric. - -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can't From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to do what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a message without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a mailbox. This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct? The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Steve Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your workload/aggravation quotient. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone else - theoretically still busy) Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is this a good thing? :-) -Original Message- From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add those smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to unsub them. I've had some success doing so. Sometimes you have to view the source document, and cut/paste the url. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't work. -Original Message- From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t I might be wrong here because my knowledge of 5.5 is rusty, but I thought all you needed to do was add the secondary email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to a mailbox and that mailbox would now receive all email addressed to your domain that isn't a valid recipient. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2001 14:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t How do I set up a catch all postmaster account that accepts all mail except those with specific mailboxes WITHOUT having to build a list of bogus e-mail address that will be accepted. -Original Message- From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t I've not read all of this email so I may be repeating what has already been said, so apologies if that is the case, but there are 2 things you can do. You can set up a 'catch-all' postmaster account that would receive these emails, or you can add these email addresses as secondary proxy email addresses to other mailboxes, i.e. the administrators. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2001 14:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t Yes, I realized that after I sent it. The real problem is that I am up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses. I don't want to have to track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list. More preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before it even gets into the input queue. This might discourage the spammers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Huh? If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the message just disappears no NDR is sent. or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - If insane people had more money they would just be eccentric. - -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can't From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to do what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a message without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a mailbox. This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct? The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Steve Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your workload/aggravation quotient. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone else - theoretically still busy) Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is this a good thing? :-) -Original Message- From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add those smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17
RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t
nothing discourages spammers -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - The hardness of the butter is inversely proportional to the softness of the bread. - -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t Yes, I realized that after I sent it. The real problem is that I am up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses. I don't want to have to track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list. More preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before it even gets into the input queue. This might discourage the spammers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Huh? If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the message just disappears no NDR is sent. or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - If insane people had more money they would just be eccentric. - -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can't From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to do what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a message without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a mailbox. This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct? The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Steve Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your workload/aggravation quotient. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone else - theoretically still busy) Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is this a good thing? :-) -Original Message- From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add those smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to unsub them. I've had some success doing so. Sometimes you have to view the source document, and cut/paste the url. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? me too. In a previous post I asked if a message could be rejected if it had a bogus username (no NDR, no nothing - just kill it in the initial SMTP conversation). The kind folks here informed me recently that Exchange will only check the domain and not really check the entire address against the GAL (although I think the docs on securing an Exchange relay are a bit ambiguous
RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t
No, that just receives mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - All generalizations are false. - -Original Message- From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t I might be wrong here because my knowledge of 5.5 is rusty, but I thought all you needed to do was add the secondary email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to a mailbox and that mailbox would now receive all email addressed to your domain that isn't a valid recipient. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2001 14:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t How do I set up a catch all postmaster account that accepts all mail except those with specific mailboxes WITHOUT having to build a list of bogus e-mail address that will be accepted. -Original Message- From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t I've not read all of this email so I may be repeating what has already been said, so apologies if that is the case, but there are 2 things you can do. You can set up a 'catch-all' postmaster account that would receive these emails, or you can add these email addresses as secondary proxy email addresses to other mailboxes, i.e. the administrators. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2001 14:21 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t Yes, I realized that after I sent it. The real problem is that I am up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses. I don't want to have to track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list. More preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before it even gets into the input queue. This might discourage the spammers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Huh? If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the message just disappears no NDR is sent. or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - If insane people had more money they would just be eccentric. - -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can't From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to do what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a message without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a mailbox. This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct? The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Steve Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your workload/aggravation quotient. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone else - theoretically still busy) Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is this a good thing? :-) -Original Message- From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t
Title: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Black Hole means it won't send an NDR. -Original Message-From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 3:28 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can't From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to do what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a message without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a mailbox. This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct? The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Steve Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your workload/aggravation quotient. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone else - theoretically still busy) Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is this a good thing? :-) -Original Message- From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Because if I create a "Black Hole" I/we don't have to do anything... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add those smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to unsub them. I've had some success doing so. Sometimes you have to view the source document, and cut/paste the url. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? me too. In a previous post I asked if a message could be rejected if it had a bogus username (no NDR, no nothing - just kill it in the initial SMTP conversation). The kind folks here informed me recently that Exchange will only check the domain and not "really" check the entire address against the GAL (although I think the docs on securing an Exchange relay are a bit ambiguous in that regard), so the fake username gets in. I'm trying to find the time to evaluate some content inspection products - hopefully one of them will be able to look at the Exchange userlist and drop incoming based on that criteria. It is nice for legit users to get an NDR - God knows how many honest typo's are made every day. But it would be cool if you could tell your IMS to track NDR's and if enough are going back to the same sending domain or server, maybe start to drop any incoming from them (or someting like that...). That way legit NDR's would go out to the legit senders, but the flood of NDR's to these junker systems could be killed. In other words, AFAIK a lot more control over handling non-deliverables at the server would be great. randy -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? I am receiving messages, directed to my Exchange server that are in my domain name (dji.com), but have no corresponding mailbox on the system. Yes, I have secured Exchange against open relay. My suspicion is that someone (single or multiple people) are registering with opt-in (or out) commercial sites that send out periodic newsletters, using some phony mailboxes (although some addresses look real (i.e. kimokran) into my
RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t
Black hole means I need to know every mailbox-so far, there's about 50, and that # is growing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t Black Hole means it won't send an NDR. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 3:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can't From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to do what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a message without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a mailbox. This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct? The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Steve Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your workload/aggravation quotient. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone else - theoretically still busy) Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is this a good thing? :-) -Original Message- From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add those smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to unsub them. I've had some success doing so. Sometimes you have to view the source document, and cut/paste the url. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? me too. In a previous post I asked if a message could be rejected if it had a bogus username (no NDR, no nothing - just kill it in the initial SMTP conversation). The kind folks here informed me recently that Exchange will only check the domain and not really check the entire address against the GAL (although I think the docs on securing an Exchange relay are a bit ambiguous in that regard), so the fake username gets in. I'm trying to find the time to evaluate some content inspection products - hopefully one of them will be able to look at the Exchange userlist and drop incoming based on that criteria. It is nice for legit users to get an NDR - God knows how many honest typo's are made every day. But it would be cool if you could tell your IMS to track NDR's and if enough are going back to the same sending domain or server, maybe start to drop any incoming from them (or someting like that...). That way legit NDR's would go out to the legit senders, but the flood of NDR's to these junker systems could be killed. In other words, AFAIK a lot more control over handling non-deliverables at the server would be great. randy -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? I am receiving messages, directed to my Exchange server that are in my domain name (dji.com), but have no corresponding mailbox
RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t
Title: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t If you're just getting [EMAIL PROTECTED], I think you're screwed. If it's the same e-mail addresses, primarily caused by ex-employees, then use the Black Hole. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t Black hole means I need to know every mailbox-so far, there's about 50, and that # is growing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t Black Hole means it won't send an NDR. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 3:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can't From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to do what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a message without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a mailbox. This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct? The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish: an NDR will be sent to the sender. Steve Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your workload/aggravation quotient. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone else - theoretically still busy) Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is this a good thing? :-) -Original Message- From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add those smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to unsub them. I've had some success doing so. Sometimes you have to view the source document, and cut/paste the url. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? me too. In a previous post I asked if a message could be rejected if it had a bogus username (no NDR, no nothing - just kill it in the initial SMTP conversation). The kind folks here informed me recently that Exchange will only check the domain and not really check the entire address against the GAL (although I think the docs on securing an Exchange relay are a bit ambiguous in that regard), so the fake username gets in. I'm trying to find the time to evaluate some content inspection products - hopefully one of them will be able to look at the Exchange userlist and drop incoming based on that criteria. It is nice for legit users to get an NDR - God knows how many honest typo's are made every day. But it would be cool if you could tell your IMS to track NDR's and if enough are going back to the same sending domain or server, maybe start to drop any incoming from them (or someting like that...). That way legit NDR's would go out to the legit senders, but the flood of NDR's to these junker systems could be killed. In other words, AFAIK a lot more control over handling non-deliverables at the server would be great. randy -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 17, 2001 9:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? I am receiving messages, directed to my Exchange server that are in my domain name (dji.com), but have no corresponding mailbox on the system. Yes, I have secured Exchange against open relay. My suspicion is that someone (single
