RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread John Hornbuckle
I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with 
this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how 
SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in 
your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of 
Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
 Guilty!
 
 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.
 
 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.
 
 
 
 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A
 r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
  And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum
  of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :)
 
   You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office
 notices one gets when posting around the holidays.
 
 -- Ben
 
 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
 
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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
 
 
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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
 
 
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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


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Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Kurt Buff
The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with 
 this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how 
 SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list?

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A
 r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
  And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum
  of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :)

   You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office
 notices one gets when posting around the holidays.

 -- Ben

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Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:01 PM, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox ...

  I don't want to have to pay to get my car's muffler fixed.  We don't
always get what we want.

 Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue?

  It's Exchange/Outlook.  A proper auto-responder would send the OOO
notices to the SMTP reverse-path, which is *not* the RFC-822 From:
header.  Why Microsoft hasn't fixed it in 15 or so years, I have no
idea.

-- Ben

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread John Hornbuckle
I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I 
do it.



-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with 
 this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how 
 SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list?

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A
 r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
  And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum
  of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :)

 �� You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office
 notices one gets when posting around the holidays.

 -- Ben

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Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Not on tech/professional mailing lists.  The email should be seperated
if you cant accomplish it with rules.  I've been doing this for years.
 I also use OOO's, but no one here would ever know it.

--
ME2



On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list?

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A
 r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
  And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum
  of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :)

 �  You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office
 notices one gets when posting around the holidays.

 -- Ben

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RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread John Cook
Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

S

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I 
do it.



-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with 
 this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how 
 SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list?

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A
 r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
  And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum
  of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :)

� You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of 
out-of-office
 notices one gets when posting around the holidays.

 -- Ben

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
�� 

 
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Nin��~

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Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Kurt Buff
It's common sense, really - if you're important enough that you
receive external emails from customers on a regular basis, your
customers are important enough to receive non-automated replies.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:27, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Steven Peck
In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell�� (352) 215-6944
 Fa�  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list?

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A
 r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
  And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum
  of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :)

��½ You'd think 
so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office
 notices one gets when posting around the holidays.

 -- Ben

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
��
 
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/N

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Brilliant Mr. Peck. tyvm



 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:58 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
 In outlook, I used to have a rule.
 When receive message from [whatever list]
   move to folder
   and Stop Processing more rules.
 
 This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required
 OOOs.
 
 Steven
 
 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
  Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-
 on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml
 
  John W. Cook
  Systems Administrator
  Partnership For Strong Families
  315 SE 2nd Ave
  Gainesville, Fl 32601
  Office (352) 393-2741 x320
  Cel��� (352) 215-6944
  Fa� (352) 393-2746
  MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange
 (Sunbelt)
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370
 
  That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007
 
  S
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can
 tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with
 do it the way I do it.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.
 
  On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
  john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
  I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who
 send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.
 
  I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault
 lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is
 this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.
 
  Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only
 to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the
 OOO setup area of Outlook 2007.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm
 out
  of the office.
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are
 separate
  Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn
 on
  OOO for external users.
  TVK
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  Guilty!
 
  But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
  prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a
 registry
  hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.
 
  Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
  notices don't get sent to the list.
 
 
 
  John Hornbuckle
  MIS Department
  Taylor County School District
  www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A
  r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
   And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a
 modicum
   of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :)
 
 
  You'd
 think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office
  notices one gets when posting around the holidays.
 
  -- Ben

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Jason Gurtz
Tall cliffsjumping people

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can
tell
 you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it
 the way I do it.

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread John Hornbuckle
I just checked my Outlook (2007) rules, and they're already configured that 
way. It appears that Outlook does that by default.

Does it really work? I have no idea. I don't know whether my OOFs go out to 
this list or not.



-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell�� (352) 215-6944
 Fa� (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list?

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A
 r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
  And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum
  of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :)

�
 You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread John Hornbuckle
I appreciate your input, but you're not in any more of a position to judge 
what's best for my position and organization than I am to judge for you. I'll 
make the best decisions I can based on my education and experience, and you do 
the same. It's certainly possible for us to differ without one of us being 
right and the other being wrong.



-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

It's common sense, really - if you're important enough that you
receive external emails from customers on a regular basis, your
customers are important enough to receive non-automated replies.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:27, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Don Guyer
I just changed my Rule to incorporate Stop Processing More Rules. I'm out 
tomorrow, we'll see what happens.

Oh and just in case it DOES work:


I'll be out of the office tomorrow, returning on Monday.


LOL


Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox  Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com


-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

Brilliant Mr. Peck. tyvm



 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:58 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
 In outlook, I used to have a rule.
 When receive message from [whatever list]
   move to folder
   and Stop Processing more rules.
 
 This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required
 OOOs.
 
 Steven
 
 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
  Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-
 on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml
 
  John W. Cook
  Systems Administrator
  Partnership For Strong Families
  315 SE 2nd Ave
  Gainesville, Fl 32601
  Office (352) 393-2741 x320
  Cel (352) 215-6944
  Fa (352) 393-2746
  MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange
 (Sunbelt)
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370
 
  That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007
 
  S
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can
 tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with
 do it the way I do it.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.
 
  On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
  john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
  I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who
 send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.
 
  I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault
 lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is
 this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.
 
  Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only
 to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the
 OOO setup area of Outlook 2007.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm
 out
  of the office.
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are
 separate
  Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn
 on
  OOO for external users.
  TVK
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  Guilty!
 
  But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
  prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a
 registry
  hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.
 
  Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
  notices don't get sent to the list.
 
 
 
  John Hornbuckle
  MIS Department
  Taylor County School District
  www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the 
bit-bucket...

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fa  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list?

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A
 r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
  And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum
  of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :)

½ You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office
 notices one gets when posting around the holidays.

 -- Ben

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/N½~

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/N~


 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 http

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Don Andrews
My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF?  (Out Of 
Foffice?)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the 
bit-bucket...

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fa  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list?

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A
 r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
  And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum
  of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :)

½ You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office
 notices one gets when posting around the holidays

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Eric Wittersheim
Out of Facility

-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:04 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF?  (Out Of 
Foffice?)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the 
bit-bucket...

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fa  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list?

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A
 r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
  And looking at the title

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread John Cook
Out Of Facilities

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF?  (Out Of 
Foffice?)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the 
bit-bucket...

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fa  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread John Hornbuckle
Out of field is where that originates. I prefer OOO, though.

Lord, I hope we don't start arguing about whether OOF is better than OOO...



-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF?  (Out Of 
Foffice?)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the 
bit-bucket...

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fa  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Troy Meyer
Come on Don,

You have seen this before?

http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/07/12/180899.aspx

-troy

-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF?  (Out Of 
Foffice?)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the 
bit-bucket...

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fa  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list?

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009

Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
The old-school reference...

--
ME2



On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Eric Wittersheim
ewittersh...@aasmnet.org wrote:
 Out of Facility

 -Original Message-
 From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:04 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF?  (Out Of 
 Foffice?)

 -Original Message-
 From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the 
 bit-bucket...

 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 In outlook, I used to have a rule.
 When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

 This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

 Steven

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fa  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell 
 you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the 
 way I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to 
 those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO 
 setup area of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't get sent to the list.



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 www.taylor.k12.fl.us




 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Can some

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Davies,Matt
Everyone has valid point as to why or why you shouldn't send 000's out to the 
big wide world. I think we should all agree to disagree :)


As one of the people who does send 000's to the outside world, it is either to 
inform people that I'm travelling, eg sat on a plane for 13 hours, working in a 
different time zone, or just plain out 0f the office, my reasoning, which may 
be flawed is that people these days expect a instant response, and hopefully 
the 000 will remind them, they may not get an instant response.

Some of the list I subscribe to don't have the problem with 000's perhaps our 
sponsors can do something about it, in the mean time I have taken the suggested 
step of adding the stop processing more rules in the hope it solves the 
problem.

That's my 2 pence worth.

Thanks

Matt








-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: 05 March 2009 20:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the 
bit-bucket...

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fa  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread John Hornbuckle
No, I think we should disagree over disagreeing!

;-)


-Original Message-
From: Davies,Matt [mailto:mdav...@generalatlantic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

Everyone has valid point as to why or why you shouldn't send 000's out to the 
big wide world. I think we should all agree to disagree :)


As one of the people who does send 000's to the outside world, it is either to 
inform people that I'm travelling, eg sat on a plane for 13 hours, working in a 
different time zone, or just plain out 0f the office, my reasoning, which may 
be flawed is that people these days expect a instant response, and hopefully 
the 000 will remind them, they may not get an instant response.

Some of the list I subscribe to don't have the problem with 000's perhaps our 
sponsors can do something about it, in the mean time I have taken the suggested 
step of adding the stop processing more rules in the hope it solves the 
problem.

That's my 2 pence worth.

Thanks

Matt








-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: 05 March 2009 20:53
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the 
bit-bucket...

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fa  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread John Hornbuckle
D'oh!


-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

Out Of Facilities

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF?  (Out Of 
Foffice?)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the 
bit-bucket...

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fa  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those
 notices don't

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread James Winzenz
My solution to avoid the list receiving OOF's from me is to simply set my list 
preferences to nomail for the period which I will be out of the office.  
Quite easy to do via the forums, and I can set all my lists at the same time . 
. .

Thanks,

James Winzenz
Infrastructure Systems Engineer II - Security
Pulte Homes Information Services


-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

D'oh!


-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

Out Of Facilities

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF?  (Out Of 
Foffice?)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the 
bit-bucket...

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fa  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal

RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Don Andrews
No I hadn't, thanks.

I just knew it was lingering from somewhere just didn't even have the time when 
curiosity hit - xenix huh? - no wonder they bought Network Courier and called 
it MSMail.

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

Come on Don,

You have seen this before?

http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/07/12/180899.aspx

-troy

-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF?  (Out Of 
Foffice?)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the 
bit-bucket...

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

In outlook, I used to have a rule.
When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

Steven

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
 Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that 
 helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fa  (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370

 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007

 S

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you 
 that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way 
 I do it.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me 
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.

 I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie 
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this 
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that.

 Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those 
 in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area 
 of Outlook 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out
 of the office.




 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate
 Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on
 OOO for external users.
 TVK

 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Guilty!

 But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to
 prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry
 hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this.

 Plus

Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Sean Martin
I use a separate personal account for mailing lists for several reasons.
Most importantly, I don't want to have to change my subscription information
to several lists if I change jobs, and also, I do support OOOs to the
internet in my environment, so its my way of not pissing anyone else off :-)

While I used to get slightly annoyed by the number of OOOs I see on this
list, I do understand their usefulness in certain cases. It was incredibly
simple for me to filter all OOOs and send them directly to trash using the
filter rules in GMail. I'm sure most of everyone's mail client has similar
capabilities. It takes a lot less effort to control the mail you receive
than to convince others to change their behavior.

- Sean

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:20 PM, James Winzenz james.winz...@pulte.comwrote:

 My solution to avoid the list receiving OOF's from me is to simply set my
 list preferences to nomail for the period which I will be out of the
 office.  Quite easy to do via the forums, and I can set all my lists at the
 same time . . .

 Thanks,

 James Winzenz
 Infrastructure Systems Engineer II - Security
 Pulte Homes Information Services


 -Original Message-
 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:10 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 D'oh!


 -Original Message-
 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:05 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 Out Of Facilities

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fax (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:04 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF?  (Out Of
 Foffice?)

 -Original Message-
 From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the
 bit-bucket...

 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

 In outlook, I used to have a rule.
 When receive message from [whatever list]
  move to folder
  and Stop Processing more rules.

 This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs.

 Steven

 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
  Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on
 that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml
 
  John W. Cook
  Systems Administrator
  Partnership For Strong Families
  315 SE 2nd Ave
  Gainesville, Fl 32601
  Office (352) 393-2741 x320
  Cell (352) 215-6944
  Fa  (352) 393-2746
  MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange
 (Sunbelt)
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370
 
  That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007
 
  S
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell
 you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the
 way I do it.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
 
  The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices.
 
  On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle
  john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
  I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me
 messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list.
 
  I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie
 with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this
 just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame?
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: OOF's

Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?

2009-03-05 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:20 PM, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 No, I think we should disagree over disagreeing!

  No we shouldn't!

  Wait, I'll come in again...

-- Ben

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