RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
It's more fun to use NTFSDOS Pro, rename user manager to the default logon screensaver, boot the machine and wait a few minutes for user manager to popup.. Fun stuff... -Original Message- From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Ellery July wrote: It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. The thing that annoys me is there is no Microsoft-provided way to reset the dang thing, even if you have physical access to the system. Let's face it, if you have physical access, your security is toast, regardless, so all this does is make our lives difficult. The ironic part is, one solution to this problem I frequently see posted is to boot Linux from floppy and use a special tool to edit the SAM. -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do | not | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, | entity or | organization. All information is provided without | warranty of any kind. | List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Off topic Win 2k issue.
I have used this a number of times on NT 4 W2K systems. Doesn't get much simpler. Highly recommended. -- Jeff Eggleston MCP on Windows NT 4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stu Sjouwerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:212440@exchangelist... | | http://www.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=265 | | Stu | | -Original Message- | From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:07 PM | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues | Subject: Off topic Win 2k issue. | | | Does anyone have some sort of hack tool that will allow you to change the | local admin password on a workstation and get into the OS? We took a machine | off the domain but didn't realize that the local admin password was not set | to the company default password. | | Also is there is way to just load the windows 2k cd in and restart the pc | and have it so that it only does a reinstall and does not format the drive? | | Thanks, | | List Charter and FAQ at: | http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm | | | List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html -Original Message- From: Jeffegg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Off topic Win 2k issue. I have used this a number of times on NT 4 W2K systems. Doesn't get much simpler. Highly recommended. -- Jeff Eggleston MCP on Windows NT 4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stu Sjouwerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:212440@exchangelist... | | http://www.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=265 | | Stu | | -Original Message- | From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:07 PM | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues | Subject: Off topic Win 2k issue. | | | Does anyone have some sort of hack tool that will allow you to change the | local admin password on a workstation and get into the OS? We took a machine | off the domain but didn't realize that the local admin password was not set | to the company default password. | | Also is there is way to just load the windows 2k cd in and restart the pc | and have it so that it only does a reinstall and does not format the drive? | | Thanks, | | List Charter and FAQ at: | http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm | | | List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
I totally agree, I use it too whenever it is needed. BUT it is a very dangerous tool for the ignorant and faint at heart ;) If you're afraid of using Linux (even step-by-step answering questions) don't use it! This is probably a useless post, but ehhh, yeah Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Wall, Murray TMC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 14:34 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html -Original Message- From: Jeffegg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Off topic Win 2k issue. I have used this a number of times on NT 4 W2K systems. Doesn't get much simpler. Highly recommended. -- Jeff Eggleston MCP on Windows NT 4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stu Sjouwerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:212440@exchangelist... | | http://www.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=265 | | Stu | | -Original Message- | From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:07 PM | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues | Subject: Off topic Win 2k issue. | | | Does anyone have some sort of hack tool that will allow you to change the | local admin password on a workstation and get into the OS? We took a machine | off the domain but didn't realize that the local admin password was not set | to the company default password. | | Also is there is way to just load the windows 2k cd in and restart the pc | and have it so that it only does a reinstall and does not format the drive? | | Thanks, | | List Charter and FAQ at: | http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm | | | List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
?? I don't think so. There are many (easy) to crack NT passwords. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. If this email has any attachments then send it onto the IT Help Desk for virus checking It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, please immediately notify the Muir Group IT Help Desk on +44 (0) 1244 606139 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Off topic Win 2k issue.
like a format ;) - Original Message - From: Steve Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:04 Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. ?? I don't think so. There are many (easy) to crack NT passwords. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. If this email has any attachments then send it onto the IT Help Desk for virus checking It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, please immediately notify the Muir Group IT Help Desk on +44 (0) 1244 606139 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
Ummm... I'd be very willing to disagree with you. As a security guy, you would be surprised at how long it doesn't take me to know every password on an NT network and I'm not using 100's of computers to crack them either. My laptop suffices for the task, even my little PII 300 w/ 64MB of RAM on BSD suffices and rather quickly at that... D Happiness comes only when we push our brains and hearts to the farthest reaches of which we are capable. -Leo C. Rosten -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
NT 4 passwords are easily cracked with L0phtcrack 3, amongst other things. Win2k password are not easy to crack though, first of all you do not have access to the SAM database when the OS is running, so forget bruteforcing. Second, if Syskey is activated, you can forget about cracking the password, period. Even that Linux bootdisk can't change the password then. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Steve Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 17:05 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. ?? I don't think so. There are many (easy) to crack NT passwords. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. If this email has any attachments then send it onto the IT Help Desk for virus checking It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, please immediately notify the Muir Group IT Help Desk on +44 (0) 1244 606139 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
I am assuming your being sarcastic? There are many easy ways to get passwords from a machine. I may be wrong on this but you can get a NTFS boot disk grab the SAM put it on a floppy then load it to another machine and use many cracking tools that are available. I have done it a few times for clients when admins have quit and they have no record of passwords. and I have never heard someone put 'amazing, secure, and NT or 2000' in the same sentence in my life. JM -Original Message- From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Ellery July wrote: It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. The thing that annoys me is there is no Microsoft-provided way to reset the dang thing, even if you have physical access to the system. Let's face it, if you have physical access, your security is toast, regardless, so all this does is make our lives difficult. The ironic part is, one solution to this problem I frequently see posted is to boot Linux from floppy and use a special tool to edit the SAM. -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
Very true my friend! :o) D A booming voice says, Wrong, cretin!, and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. NT 4 passwords are easily cracked with L0phtcrack 3, amongst other things. Win2k password are not easy to crack though, first of all you do not have access to the SAM database when the OS is running, so forget bruteforcing. Second, if Syskey is activated, you can forget about cracking the password, period. Even that Linux bootdisk can't change the password then. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Steve Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 17:05 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. ?? I don't think so. There are many (easy) to crack NT passwords. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. If this email has any attachments then send it onto the IT Help Desk for virus checking It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, please immediately notify the Muir Group IT Help Desk on +44 (0) 1244 606139 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
There are utilities out there that will allow you to easily crack Win2k passwords, and regarding Syskey, it can be disabled, and the password retrieved, though you run the risk of nuking the box. --- Bob t. Berge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NT 4 passwords are easily cracked with L0phtcrack 3, amongst other things. Win2k password are not easy to crack though, first of all you do not have access to the SAM database when the OS is running, so forget bruteforcing. Second, if Syskey is activated, you can forget about cracking the password, period. Even that Linux bootdisk can't change the password then. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Steve Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 17:05 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. ?? I don't think so. There are many (easy) to crack NT passwords. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. If this email has any attachments then send it onto the IT Help Desk for virus checking It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, please immediately notify the Muir Group IT Help Desk on +44 (0) 1244 606139 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
http://www.ntsecurity.net/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=9186 haven't tried this method myself (to workaround syskeywaiting for a rainy day) but seems like this method would work as well. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. Very true my friend! :o) D A booming voice says, Wrong, cretin!, and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. NT 4 passwords are easily cracked with L0phtcrack 3, amongst other things. Win2k password are not easy to crack though, first of all you do not have access to the SAM database when the OS is running, so forget bruteforcing. Second, if Syskey is activated, you can forget about cracking the password, period. Even that Linux bootdisk can't change the password then. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Steve Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 17:05 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. ?? I don't think so. There are many (easy) to crack NT passwords. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. If this email has any attachments then send it onto the IT Help Desk for virus checking It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, please immediately notify the Muir Group IT Help Desk on +44 (0) 1244 606139 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
Well, if you can deactivate Syskey, you already got sufficient rights to change admin password in the User manager ;) Could you point me to any of these utilities that can actually crack a win2k's SAM database? I am pretty sure about this not being so easy at all, I suppose that if there even is such a tool, it will be from some big company asking mucho $$$ for it's use. But, if I'm wrong and you're right, could you prove it to me? (I'm pretty convinced I know a lot about this so it would be good if someone can smack my face in the dirt and prove me wrong ;)) Thanks -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Glen Macdonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 17:33 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. There are utilities out there that will allow you to easily crack Win2k passwords, and regarding Syskey, it can be disabled, and the password retrieved, though you run the risk of nuking the box. --- Bob t. Berge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NT 4 passwords are easily cracked with L0phtcrack 3, amongst other things. Win2k password are not easy to crack though, first of all you do not have access to the SAM database when the OS is running, so forget bruteforcing. Second, if Syskey is activated, you can forget about cracking the password, period. Even that Linux bootdisk can't change the password then. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Steve Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 17:05 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. ?? I don't think so. There are many (easy) to crack NT passwords. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. If this email has any attachments then send it onto the IT Help Desk for virus checking It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, please immediately notify the Muir Group IT Help Desk on +44 (0) 1244 606139 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
Again, you need admin rights to perform that task, so you can already change tha administrator password ;) He's not trying to crack a normal user's password here but the administrator's, it's different... you don't háve any rights to perform tasks that require admin rights, that includes using pwdump2 and disabling syskey ;) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: STACKHOUSE, TODD -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 17:42 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. http://www.ntsecurity.net/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=9186 haven't tried this method myself (to workaround syskeywaiting for a rainy day) but seems like this method would work as well. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. Very true my friend! :o) D A booming voice says, Wrong, cretin!, and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. NT 4 passwords are easily cracked with L0phtcrack 3, amongst other things. Win2k password are not easy to crack though, first of all you do not have access to the SAM database when the OS is running, so forget bruteforcing. Second, if Syskey is activated, you can forget about cracking the password, period. Even that Linux bootdisk can't change the password then. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Steve Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 17:05 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. ?? I don't think so. There are many (easy) to crack NT passwords. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. If this email has any attachments then send it onto the IT Help Desk for virus checking It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, please immediately notify the Muir Group IT Help Desk on +44 (0) 1244 606139 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
I have been following this thread with interest, do you have a recommendation for a whitepaper Microsoft or not for securing laptops with EFS, Syskey Mode and security policies applied to the local machine. TIA Paul -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 16:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. Again, you need admin rights to perform that task, so you can already change tha administrator password ;) He's not trying to crack a normal user's password here but the administrator's, it's different... you don't háve any rights to perform tasks that require admin rights, that includes using pwdump2 and disabling syskey ;) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: STACKHOUSE, TODD -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 17:42 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. http://www.ntsecurity.net/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=9186 haven't tried this method myself (to workaround syskeywaiting for a rainy day) but seems like this method would work as well. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. Very true my friend! :o) D A booming voice says, Wrong, cretin!, and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. NT 4 passwords are easily cracked with L0phtcrack 3, amongst other things. Win2k password are not easy to crack though, first of all you do not have access to the SAM database when the OS is running, so forget bruteforcing. Second, if Syskey is activated, you can forget about cracking the password, period. Even that Linux bootdisk can't change the password then. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Steve Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 17:05 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. ?? I don't think so. There are many (easy) to crack NT passwords. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. If this email has any attachments then send it onto the IT Help Desk for virus checking It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, please immediately notify the Muir Group IT Help Desk on +44 (0) 1244 606139 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
I'm sorry but I don't know a whitepaper as such, I learned about it through various ways. But I am sure that if there's anybody who knows it on this list, he/she will provide you with the info ;) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 18:38 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. I have been following this thread with interest, do you have a recommendation for a whitepaper Microsoft or not for securing laptops with EFS, Syskey Mode and security policies applied to the local machine. TIA Paul -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 16:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. Again, you need admin rights to perform that task, so you can already change tha administrator password ;) He's not trying to crack a normal user's password here but the administrator's, it's different... you don't háve any rights to perform tasks that require admin rights, that includes using pwdump2 and disabling syskey ;) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: STACKHOUSE, TODD -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 17:42 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. http://www.ntsecurity.net/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=9186 haven't tried this method myself (to workaround syskeywaiting for a rainy day) but seems like this method would work as well. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. Very true my friend! :o) D A booming voice says, Wrong, cretin!, and you notice that you have turned into a pile of dust. -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. NT 4 passwords are easily cracked with L0phtcrack 3, amongst other things. Win2k password are not easy to crack though, first of all you do not have access to the SAM database when the OS is running, so forget bruteforcing. Second, if Syskey is activated, you can forget about cracking the password, period. Even that Linux bootdisk can't change the password then. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Steve Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 december 2001 17:05 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. ?? I don't think so. There are many (easy) to crack NT passwords. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 13:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. If this email has any attachments then send it onto the IT Help Desk for virus checking It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, please immediately notify the Muir Group IT Help Desk on +44 (0) 1244 606139 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
Well Big E. you went Trolling and definitely got a few fish. ;-) For those of you who love NT and yet don't understand physical access allows you to own MOST systems with the right tools, including our beloved Windows 2000. ;-) Chad P. I trust the OS whose security weaknesses I know the best -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm +++The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document.+++ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
Come out from under that bridge and say that! -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. what me troll? never -Original Message- From: Purviance, Chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. Well Big E. you went Trolling and definitely got a few fish. ;-) For those of you who love NT and yet don't understand physical access allows you to own MOST systems with the right tools, including our beloved Windows 2000. ;-) Chad P. I trust the OS whose security weaknesses I know the best -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm +++The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document.+++ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
Except for this tool of course: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=265 Warm regards, Stu -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
You're always showing off your tool. -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. Except for this tool of course: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=265 Warm regards, Stu -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
LOL!!! -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. You're always showing off your tool. -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. Except for this tool of course: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=265 Warm regards, Stu -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue. It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin password is very tough. If you lose it you might as well just toss the machine in the river. No one can break those passwords without getting 100's of computers running weeks at full steam. ellery List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This electronic message (email) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication, or the taking of any action relative to its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at (310) 553-1707 or by email. Please destroy all hard copies of this communication and delete it from all electronic files. Thank you. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
Winternals NT Locksmith will change the admin password on an NT workstation. I believe they have an updated version that also works on 2k. www.winternals.com -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Off topic Win 2k issue. Does anyone have some sort of hack tool that will allow you to change the local admin password on a workstation and get into the OS? We took a machine off the domain but didn't realize that the local admin password was not set to the company default password. Also is there is way to just load the windows 2k cd in and restart the pc and have it so that it only does a reinstall and does not format the drive? Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
http://www.lostpassword.com/ -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Off topic Win 2k issue. Does anyone have some sort of hack tool that will allow you to change the local admin password on a workstation and get into the OS? We took a machine off the domain but didn't realize that the local admin password was not set to the company default password. Also is there is way to just load the windows 2k cd in and restart the pc and have it so that it only does a reinstall and does not format the drive? Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=265 Stu -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Off topic Win 2k issue. Does anyone have some sort of hack tool that will allow you to change the local admin password on a workstation and get into the OS? We took a machine off the domain but didn't realize that the local admin password was not set to the company default password. Also is there is way to just load the windows 2k cd in and restart the pc and have it so that it only does a reinstall and does not format the drive? Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
