RE: Relay Bounce Backs
Yes. From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Bounce Backs We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
We experienced some problems too. We did not track it to the precise cause, however we did find that the problem messages were: - Internal recipients only (email delivered to outside source) - The emails were automated using cdo - The specific line causing problems were using the From Field instead of the Sender field in their code o Changed objMessage.Sender = Request.Form(From). The difference between From and Sender is that Sender identifies the user that actually submits the message, but From on the other hand, designates the author(s). Info Found at the link listed below: http://www.ilopia.com/Articles/WindowsServer2003/CDO.aspx Interestingly enough, the messages had no problem until November 2007. At this time we upgraded our IronPort and patched our SMTP servers, and our Exchange Servers. We still are not sure which one caused the issue. Hope this helps. Nikki Peterson From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Bounce Backs We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Relay Bounce Backs
Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
Are you saying that Ninja is blocking them? Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Relay Bounce Backs
Love it... On Jan 24, 2008 7:05 AM, Patti Cavlovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. -- *From:* Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:04 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Relay Bounce Backs We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? *From:*System Administrator *Sent: *Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: *Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Carol Custard* Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Relay Bounce Backs
Concur On Jan 24, 2008 7:21 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
Can anyone give me more information than that? Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:26 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs Concur On Jan 24, 2008 7:21 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org http://flynnexch.flynncenter.org/ #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Relay Bounce Backs
No, he said Spam Filter... The amount of detail you are providing for this problem is overwhelming... On Jan 24, 2008 7:23 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that Ninja is blocking them? Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
ROFL, good one Patti... Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Patti Cavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Yes. From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Bounce Backs We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
Carol, I believe you will find an answer in my earlier post. Your message subject would appear to be from an automated weekly sending. You need to check the code that is creating the messages for the use of the FROM field vs the SENDER field. As an example: Look at the SEND AS function - an administrative assistant can send mail as the boss, however the actual sender is the admin asst. This shows that there are clearly two separate entites defined in two different ways. You are getting a RELAY error. Think about it. Nikki Peterson From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Can anyone give me more information than that? Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:26 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs Concur On Jan 24, 2008 7:21 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org http://flynnexch.flynncenter.org/ #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
I should have included the fact that the SPAM FILTER is probably working better now, catching the long ignored problem. Nikki Peterson From: Nikki Peterson - OETX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Carol, I believe you will find an answer in my earlier post. Your message subject would appear to be from an automated weekly sending. You need to check the code that is creating the messages for the use of the FROM field vs the SENDER field. As an example: Look at the SEND AS function - an administrative assistant can send mail as the boss, however the actual sender is the admin asst. This shows that there are clearly two separate entites defined in two different ways. You are getting a RELAY error. Think about it. Nikki Peterson From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Can anyone give me more information than that? Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:26 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs Concur On Jan 24, 2008 7:21 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org http://flynnexch.flynncenter.org/ #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Relay Bounce Backs
This is all a best-guess only based on the extremely limited information you have provided us. Typically, a 550 5.7.1 is a spam filter type response. A 5.7.1 is a block due to administrative policy, again, a type of filter (spam filter?) is in place. Again typically, I see 550 5.7.1's when someone has made a mistake in their spam filter config. The verbose part of the message is not always accurate. In some cases it is intentionally misleading. More info: http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/SMTP_Status_Codes#Security_or_Policy_Status_-_x.7..23 On Jan 24, 2008 10:27 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone give me more information than that? Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:26 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs Concur On Jan 24, 2008 7:21 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
Likewise, love it. Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs No, he said Spam Filter... The amount of detail you are providing for this problem is overwhelming... On Jan 24, 2008 7:23 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that Ninja is blocking them? Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org http://flynnexch.flynncenter.org/ #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
Very Nice Wiki link. Most Impressive! Nikki Peterson -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs This is all a best-guess only based on the extremely limited information you have provided us. Typically, a 550 5.7.1 is a spam filter type response. A 5.7.1 is a block due to administrative policy, again, a type of filter (spam filter?) is in place. Again typically, I see 550 5.7.1's when someone has made a mistake in their spam filter config. The verbose part of the message is not always accurate. In some cases it is intentionally misleading. More info: http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/SMTP_Status_Codes#Security_or_Policy_Statu s_-_x.7..23 On Jan 24, 2008 10:27 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone give me more information than that? Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:26 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs Concur On Jan 24, 2008 7:21 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
I agree. Thanks so much for everyone's info! -Original Message- From: Nikki Peterson - OETX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Very Nice Wiki link. Most Impressive! Nikki Peterson -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs This is all a best-guess only based on the extremely limited information you have provided us. Typically, a 550 5.7.1 is a spam filter type response. A 5.7.1 is a block due to administrative policy, again, a type of filter (spam filter?) is in place. Again typically, I see 550 5.7.1's when someone has made a mistake in their spam filter config. The verbose part of the message is not always accurate. In some cases it is intentionally misleading. More info: http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/SMTP_Status_Codes#Security_or_Policy_Statu s_-_x.7..23 On Jan 24, 2008 10:27 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone give me more information than that? Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:26 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs Concur On Jan 24, 2008 7:21 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Relay Bounce Backs
yep, I've seen those when a SPAM filter is configured to block any email for unregistered users... On Jan 24, 2008 7:56 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all a best-guess only based on the extremely limited information you have provided us. Typically, a 550 5.7.1 is a spam filter type response. A 5.7.1 is a block due to administrative policy, again, a type of filter (spam filter?) is in place. Again typically, I see 550 5.7.1's when someone has made a mistake in their spam filter config. The verbose part of the message is not always accurate. In some cases it is intentionally misleading. More info: http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/SMTP_Status_Codes#Security_or_Policy_Status_-_x.7..23 On Jan 24, 2008 10:27 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone give me more information than that? Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:26 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs Concur On Jan 24, 2008 7:21 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
Great link. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Patti Cavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs I agree. Thanks so much for everyone's info! -Original Message- From: Nikki Peterson - OETX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Very Nice Wiki link. Most Impressive! Nikki Peterson -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs This is all a best-guess only based on the extremely limited information you have provided us. Typically, a 550 5.7.1 is a spam filter type response. A 5.7.1 is a block due to administrative policy, again, a type of filter (spam filter?) is in place. Again typically, I see 550 5.7.1's when someone has made a mistake in their spam filter config. The verbose part of the message is not always accurate. In some cases it is intentionally misleading. More info: http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/SMTP_Status_Codes#Security_or_Policy_Statu s_-_x.7..23 On Jan 24, 2008 10:27 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone give me more information than that? Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:26 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Bounce Backs Concur On Jan 24, 2008 7:21 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam filter. On Jan 24, 2008 10:04 AM, Carol Custard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
You're just saying that because it's basketball season, right? John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Patti Cavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Yes. From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Bounce Backs We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
BAH! 24 days 'til Daytona! -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs You're just saying that because it's basketball season, right? John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Patti Cavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Yes. From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Bounce Backs We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
Yep. Too bad I'll have to watch it tape delayed. John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs BAH! 24 days 'til Daytona! -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs You're just saying that because it's basketball season, right? John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Patti Cavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Yes. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
The REAL race at Daytona is only 2 days away and they'll be turning right as well as left and doing it for 24 hours! John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs BAH! 24 days 'til Daytona! -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs You're just saying that because it's basketball season, right? John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Patti Cavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Yes. From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Bounce Backs We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
I always fall asleep before the end of the race :(. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs The REAL race at Daytona is only 2 days away and they'll be turning right as well as left and doing it for 24 hours! John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs BAH! 24 days 'til Daytona! -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs You're just saying that because it's basketball season, right? John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Patti Cavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Yes. From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Bounce Backs We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
You have to pace your alcohol consumption! John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs I always fall asleep before the end of the race :(. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs The REAL race at Daytona is only 2 days away and they'll be turning right as well as left and doing it for 24 hours! John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs BAH! 24 days 'til Daytona! -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs You're just saying that because it's basketball season, right? John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Patti Cavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Yes. From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Bounce Backs We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
NOW you're talking! -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs BAH! 24 days 'til Daytona! -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs You're just saying that because it's basketball season, right? John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Patti Cavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Yes. From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Bounce Backs We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
...and some of the same drivers will participate - I watch and enjoy that too - or was that the reaction you were looking for? ;) -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs The REAL race at Daytona is only 2 days away and they'll be turning right as well as left and doing it for 24 hours! John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs BAH! 24 days 'til Daytona! -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs You're just saying that because it's basketball season, right? John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Patti Cavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Yes. From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Bounce Backs We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Relay Bounce Backs
Tivo -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs I always fall asleep before the end of the race :(. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs The REAL race at Daytona is only 2 days away and they'll be turning right as well as left and doing it for 24 hours! John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs BAH! 24 days 'til Daytona! -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs You're just saying that because it's basketball season, right? John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems FOB Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8000 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium - 717.633.3823 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes. Woodrow Wilson -Original Message- From: Patti Cavlovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Bounce Backs Yes. From: Carol Custard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Bounce Backs We have been getting intermittent relay bounce backs has anyone else had that issue? From:System Administrator Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable: w/e 1/20 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject:w/e 1/20 Sent: 1/21/2008 8:48 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: 'Michael Decelles' on 1/21/2008 8:48 AM You do not have permission to send to this recipient. For assistance, contact your system administrator. flynnexch.flynncenter.org #5.7.1 smtp;550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol Custard Systems Administrator Flynn Center for the Performing Arts (802)-652-4569 Please send all tech support issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note
RE: Relay
Hello all! The URL I posted 18 months ago is dead: Try this one instead: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/pr odtech/mailexch/excrelay.asp (probably needs to be unwrapped) Cheers! Dan Please CC any replies to me as I'm a DIGEST subscriber. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Dan Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Hey guys, Let's slow down a bit and talk about relaying - The good, the bad, the ugly... Yes, relaying is good for road warriors as with it they can send as well as receive mail while on the road, using any dialup connection to the Internet. The problem is spammers using these open relays - Or even hijacking improperly closed relays - to flood junk mail all over the place... With YOUR header on it! What you want (and what I provide my customers) is *authorized* relaying. This means that only people who are authorized - Authenticated - can send mail. Outsiders (including spammers) are blocked, because they can't authenticate against an NT Domain. If you's guys would only make a few mouse clicks in Exchange Admin to secure your server instead of wasting keystrokes in a pissing contest... Anyway, punch up: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/exchange/relay.asp and follow the steps about halfway down (starting at screen 2 up through screen 4); and you'll be fine. For reference, take a look at http://www.orbs.org/otherresources.html Cheers! Dan PS: Never get into a pissing contest with a prick... You'll always lose! -Original Message- From: Whitson, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 5:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay No they don't run them. They actually bring litigation against people who access our equipment illegally. I guess you shouldn't worry. I will just forward the information and be done with it. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: FW: Relay So you'll fix your open relay then, or does your legal department maintain your mail server? William -Original Message- From: Whitson, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:01 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Relay If you do that again I will be forced to forward the information to our legal department and they will take care of the mater. Richard L. Whitson Exchange Administrator Labor Ready Inc. (800)610-8920 ext 3174 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
Why do we care? -Original Message- From: Dan Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Hello all! The URL I posted 18 months ago is dead: Try this one instead: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec hnet/security/pr odtech/mailexch/excrelay.asp (probably needs to be unwrapped) Cheers! Dan Please CC any replies to me as I'm a DIGEST subscriber. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Dan Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Hey guys, Let's slow down a bit and talk about relaying - The good, the bad, the ugly... Yes, relaying is good for road warriors as with it they can send as well as receive mail while on the road, using any dialup connection to the Internet. The problem is spammers using these open relays - Or even hijacking improperly closed relays - to flood junk mail all over the place... With YOUR header on it! What you want (and what I provide my customers) is *authorized* relaying. This means that only people who are authorized - Authenticated - can send mail. Outsiders (including spammers) are blocked, because they can't authenticate against an NT Domain. If you's guys would only make a few mouse clicks in Exchange Admin to secure your server instead of wasting keystrokes in a pissing contest... Anyway, punch up: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/exchange/relay.asp and follow the steps about halfway down (starting at screen 2 up through screen 4); and you'll be fine. For reference, take a look at http://www.orbs.org/otherresources.html Cheers! Dan PS: Never get into a pissing contest with a prick... You'll always lose! -Original Message- From: Whitson, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 5:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay No they don't run them. They actually bring litigation against people who access our equipment illegally. I guess you shouldn't worry. I will just forward the information and be done with it. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: FW: Relay So you'll fix your open relay then, or does your legal department maintain your mail server? William -Original Message- From: Whitson, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:01 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Relay If you do that again I will be forced to forward the information to our legal department and they will take care of the mater. Richard L. Whitson Exchange Administrator Labor Ready Inc. (800)610-8920 ext 3174 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
Oh thank goodness. I thought it was just me. -Original Message- From: Dan Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Hello all! The URL I posted 18 months ago is dead: Try this one instead: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/secur ity/pr odtech/mailexch/excrelay.asp (probably needs to be unwrapped) Cheers! Dan Please CC any replies to me as I'm a DIGEST subscriber. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Dan Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Hey guys, Let's slow down a bit and talk about relaying - The good, the bad, the ugly... Yes, relaying is good for road warriors as with it they can send as well as receive mail while on the road, using any dialup connection to the Internet. The problem is spammers using these open relays - Or even hijacking improperly closed relays - to flood junk mail all over the place... With YOUR header on it! What you want (and what I provide my customers) is *authorized* relaying. This means that only people who are authorized - Authenticated - can send mail. Outsiders (including spammers) are blocked, because they can't authenticate against an NT Domain. If you's guys would only make a few mouse clicks in Exchange Admin to secure your server instead of wasting keystrokes in a pissing contest... Anyway, punch up: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/exchange/relay.asp and follow the steps about halfway down (starting at screen 2 up through screen 4); and you'll be fine. For reference, take a look at http://www.orbs.org/otherresources.html Cheers! Dan PS: Never get into a pissing contest with a prick... You'll always lose! -Original Message- From: Whitson, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 5:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay No they don't run them. They actually bring litigation against people who access our equipment illegally. I guess you shouldn't worry. I will just forward the information and be done with it. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: FW: Relay So you'll fix your open relay then, or does your legal department maintain your mail server? William -Original Message- From: Whitson, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:01 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Relay If you do that again I will be forced to forward the information to our legal department and they will take care of the mater. Richard L. Whitson Exchange Administrator Labor Ready Inc. (800)610-8920 ext 3174 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
Steve this works for me too. Could you explain why subnet of 255.255.255.255 should be used instead? Frank -Original Message- From: Steve Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2002 22:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Pete, Use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.255. Then stop and restart the IMS. See Q196626. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 01:18PM I need to allow 4 users to relay off of out Exchange 5.5 sp4 server. The client machines are on the internal network and are not Exchange users. I have selected Reroute incoming SMTP mail on the IMS routing tab and have checked the box for Host with these IP addresses and entered the IP of the pc's on the Routing Restrictions page. When I test through Telnet from an allowed IP address I get relay prohibited. Any suggestions. I obviously want to ensure that relay is prohibited for anyone but these 4 machines. Pete Hotchkiss CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential information belonging to the sender which is protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ___ This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is private, confidential and may also be legally privileged . If you are not the intended recipient or employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephoning on +44 (0)207 459-3600. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are for their use only and are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing Durlacher client engagement letter. Durlacher is a member of the London Stock Exchange and is regulated by the FSA. This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. __ List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
I'm not Steve, but a subnet of /24 (255.255.255.255) is a single host ip address. Anything less signifies multiple IP addresses. You are specifying a specific host, therefore a full net mask of 255.255.255.255 is needed. Clear as mud? John Allhiser CCNP MCSE Network Engineer Business Men's Assurance -Original Message- From: Frank Labule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Steve this works for me too. Could you explain why subnet of 255.255.255.255 should be used instead? Frank -Original Message- From: Steve Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2002 22:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Pete, Use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.255. Then stop and restart the IMS. See Q196626. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 01:18PM I need to allow 4 users to relay off of out Exchange 5.5 sp4 server. The client machines are on the internal network and are not Exchange users. I have selected Reroute incoming SMTP mail on the IMS routing tab and have checked the box for Host with these IP addresses and entered the IP of the pc's on the Routing Restrictions page. When I test through Telnet from an allowed IP address I get relay prohibited. Any suggestions. I obviously want to ensure that relay is prohibited for anyone but these 4 machines. Pete Hotchkiss CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential information belonging to the sender which is protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ___ This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is private, confidential and may also be legally privileged . If you are not the intended recipient or employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephoning on +44 (0)207 459-3600. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are for their use only and are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing Durlacher client engagement letter. Durlacher is a member of the London Stock Exchange and is regulated by the FSA. This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. __ List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
To be clear, 255.255.255.255 is a /32 subnet mask. -Original Message- From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I'm not Steve, but a subnet of /24 (255.255.255.255) is a single host ip address. Anything less signifies multiple IP addresses. You are specifying a specific host, therefore a full net mask of 255.255.255.255 is needed. Clear as mud? John Allhiser CCNP MCSE Network Engineer Business Men's Assurance -Original Message- From: Frank Labule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Steve this works for me too. Could you explain why subnet of 255.255.255.255 should be used instead? Frank -Original Message- From: Steve Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2002 22:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Pete, Use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.255. Then stop and restart the IMS. See Q196626. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 01:18PM I need to allow 4 users to relay off of out Exchange 5.5 sp4 server. The client machines are on the internal network and are not Exchange users. I have selected Reroute incoming SMTP mail on the IMS routing tab and have checked the box for Host with these IP addresses and entered the IP of the pc's on the Routing Restrictions page. When I test through Telnet from an allowed IP address I get relay prohibited. Any suggestions. I obviously want to ensure that relay is prohibited for anyone but these 4 machines. Pete Hotchkiss CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential information belonging to the sender which is protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ___ This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is private, confidential and may also be legally privileged . If you are not the intended recipient or employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephoning on +44 (0)207 459-3600. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are for their use only and are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing Durlacher client engagement letter. Durlacher is a member of the London Stock Exchange and is regulated by the FSA. This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. __ List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
All clear now! Thanks -Original Message- From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 April 2002 16:11 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Doh! Yeah, I noticed that after I hit send. :( Thanks. -Original Message- From: Chris Pillitteri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay To be clear, 255.255.255.255 is a /32 subnet mask. -Original Message- From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I'm not Steve, but a subnet of /24 (255.255.255.255) is a single host ip address. Anything less signifies multiple IP addresses. You are specifying a specific host, therefore a full net mask of 255.255.255.255 is needed. Clear as mud? John Allhiser CCNP MCSE Network Engineer Business Men's Assurance -Original Message- From: Frank Labule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Steve this works for me too. Could you explain why subnet of 255.255.255.255 should be used instead? Frank -Original Message- From: Steve Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2002 22:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Relay Pete, Use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.255. Then stop and restart the IMS. See Q196626. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 01:18PM I need to allow 4 users to relay off of out Exchange 5.5 sp4 server. The client machines are on the internal network and are not Exchange users. I have selected Reroute incoming SMTP mail on the IMS routing tab and have checked the box for Host with these IP addresses and entered the IP of the pc's on the Routing Restrictions page. When I test through Telnet from an allowed IP address I get relay prohibited. Any suggestions. I obviously want to ensure that relay is prohibited for anyone but these 4 machines. Pete Hotchkiss CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential information belonging to the sender which is protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ___ This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is private, confidential and may also be legally privileged . If you are not the intended recipient or employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephoning on +44 (0)207 459-3600. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are for their use only and are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing Durlacher client engagement letter. Durlacher is a member of the London Stock Exchange and is regulated by the FSA. This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. __ List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet: http://www.star.net.uk The service is powered by MessageLabs. ___ This message is intended only for the use
Re: Relay Question
i didnt want to black it out, the recipient told me to. thanks, Bob C. - Original Message - From: William Lefkovics To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: RE: Relay Question Probably theirs. Why black out the address? -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:35 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Relay Question Hello everyone, i have a quick question for you exchange people. i have been trying to send mail to a certain domain and here is the message i am gettingthe mail bounces back to my exchange server (5.5 SP3 on NT 4).. The recipient name is not recognizedThe MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=EI Team;l=EIMAIL-020318185220Z-163MSEXCH:IMS:EI Team:EI:EIMAIL 3554 (000B099C) 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access deniedthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a different address that i blacked out with x's. is that relay error on my box or their e-mail server? any insight is appreciated...all other mail is working fineBob C.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay Question
Probably theirs. Why black out the address? -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:35 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Relay Question Hello everyone, i have a quick question for you exchange people. i have been trying to send mail to a certain domain and here is the message i am gettingthe mail bounces back to my exchange server (5.5 SP3 on NT 4).. The recipient name is not recognizedThe MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=EI Team;l=EIMAIL-020318185220Z-163MSEXCH:IMS:EI Team:EI:EIMAIL 3554 (000B099C) 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access deniedthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a different address that i blacked out with x's. is that relay error on my box or their e-mail server? any insight is appreciated...all other mail is working fineBob C.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay Question
Title: Message Its a secret! -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:37 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay Question Probably theirs. Why black out the address? -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:35 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Relay Question Hello everyone, i have a quick question for you exchange people. i have been trying to send mail to a certain domain and here is the message i am gettingthe mail bounces back to my exchange server (5.5 SP3 on NT 4).. The recipient name is not recognizedThe MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=EI Team;l=EIMAIL-020318185220Z-163MSEXCH:IMS:EI Team:EI:EIMAIL 3554 (000B099C) 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access deniedthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a different address that i blacked out with x's. is that relay error on my box or their e-mail server? any insight is appreciated...all other mail is working fineBob C.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay Question
Title: Message Then so is the answer to the question. Or is the answer in Appendix J? -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:39 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay Question Its a secret! -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:37 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay Question Probably theirs. Why black out the address? -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:35 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Relay Question Hello everyone, i have a quick question for you exchange people. i have been trying to send mail to a certain domain and here is the message i am gettingthe mail bounces back to my exchange server (5.5 SP3 on NT 4).. The recipient name is not recognizedThe MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=EI Team;l=EIMAIL-020318185220Z-163MSEXCH:IMS:EI Team:EI:EIMAIL 3554 (000B099C) 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access deniedthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a different address that i blacked out with x's. is that relay error on my box or their e-mail server? any insight is appreciated...all other mail is working fineBob C.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
Title: Message Stop and restart the IMS? What are the other routing settings setto? William -Original Message-From: Hotchkiss, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:18 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Relay I need to allow 4 users to relay off of out Exchange 5.5 sp4 server. The client machines are on the internal network and are not Exchange users. I have selected Reroute incoming SMTP mail on the IMS routing tab and have checked the box for Host with these IP addresses and entered the IP of the pc's on the Routing Restrictions page. When I test through Telnet from an allowedIP address I get relay prohibited. Any suggestions. I obviously want to ensure that relay is prohibited for anyone but these 4 machines. Pete Hotchkiss List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential information belonging to the sender which is protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Relay
Pete, Use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.255. Then stop and restart the IMS. See Q196626. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/02 01:18PM I need to allow 4 users to relay off of out Exchange 5.5 sp4 server. The client machines are on the internal network and are not Exchange users. I have selected Reroute incoming SMTP mail on the IMS routing tab and have checked the box for Host with these IP addresses and entered the IP of the pc's on the Routing Restrictions page. When I test through Telnet from an allowed IP address I get relay prohibited. Any suggestions. I obviously want to ensure that relay is prohibited for anyone but these 4 machines. Pete Hotchkiss CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential information belonging to the sender which is protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay???
Title: Message It may be because your server is open, check the direct e-mail for more information. Chad Purviance -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Relay??? I have my routing restrictions in place, but some how this person is still sending emails through my server or is making it look that way... Anybody have any ideas?? I run Exchange 5.5 sp 4 on a NT 4 server with sp6a. Routing restrictions are only people that can authenticate and my IP range. Hello, The spammer below is either using your resources to send out bulk unsolicited commercial email (spam) or is deceptively trying to make it look like he is. In either case, a legitimate firm like yours probably would not approve. If you are in a position to track down and stop this abuse, the attached copy of the spam with complete headers should be all you need. unsolicited commercial mail follows --- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Mon Dec 10 00:46:22 2001 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail.heelbhi.com (unknown [211.91.255.165]) by noncon.edgeplay.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3308F25F for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:46:20 -0800 (PST) To: haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: SuperMail-2 Subject: haynes, how much? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:46:20 -0800 (PST) Rudy Lovato Heel, Inc. (505) 293-3843 Ext. 7025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm +++The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document.+++ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document.
RE: Relay???
I have the same question my client has a W2k Sp 2 and E2K with SP1 and still after putting down the basic restiction his server was relayed can u help us in specifying any checklist for stopping relays on Exchange Sonu Singh Customer Support Executive Softcell Technologies Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone - +91-22-4606969 Ext. 248 Fax - + 91-22-4224912 Purviance, Chad Chad.Purviance@BroaTo: MS-Exchange Admin Issues dwing.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] re.com 11/12/2001 09:35 PM cc: Please respond to Subject: RE: Relay??? MS-Exchange Admin Issues It may be because your server is open, check the direct e-mail for more information. Chad Purviance -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Relay??? I have my routing restrictions in place, but some how this person is still sending emails through my server or is making it look that way... Anybody have any ideas?? I run Exchange 5.5 sp 4 on a NT 4 server with sp6a. Routing restrictions are only people that can authenticate and my IP range. Hello, The spammer below is either using your resources to send out bulk unsolicited commercial email (spam) or is deceptively trying to make it look like he is. In either case, a legitimate firm like yours probably would not approve. If you are in a position to track down and stop this abuse, the attached copy of the spam with complete headers should be all you need. unsolicited commercial mail follows --- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Mon Dec 10 00:46:22 2001 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail.heelbhi.com (unknown [211.91.255.165]) by noncon.edgeplay.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3308F25F for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:46:20 -0800 (PST) To: haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: SuperMail-2 Subject: haynes, how much? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:46:20 -0800 (PST) Rudy Lovato Heel, Inc. (505) 293-3843 Ext. 7025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm +++The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document.+++ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: relay problems
I think this isn't a security flaw but by design, since the recipient is in the domain the server is responsible for it accepts and sends the mail. Your server does not appear to allow relaying outside your domain, which is good. It would be a bad thing if it would accept rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] when helo is sent from outside your domain. I am not sure about this, but i think that if you would block this you are not gonna be able to receive mail at all. Bob ten Berge deVisie automatiseringsdiensten -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 21 november 2001 12:14 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: relay problems I've just tested our mail server with www.abuse.net/relay.htm and on test 8 it appears to fail. RSET 250 2.0.0 Resetting MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@kingswinford.dudley.sch.uk Although our server doesn't relay the message it accepts it and generates an NDR, our ISP is refusing to allow us access to their smtp pop3 servers until this is closed. How do I solve this one in Exchange 2000 Thanks Stu List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: relay problems
Thanks Bob you've confirmed what I already thought, now it's time do to battle with the ISP ;-) Thanks Stu -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2001 11:27 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: relay problems I think this isn't a security flaw but by design, since the recipient is in the domain the server is responsible for it accepts and sends the mail. Your server does not appear to allow relaying outside your domain, which is good. It would be a bad thing if it would accept rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] when helo is sent from outside your domain. I am not sure about this, but i think that if you would block this you are not gonna be able to receive mail at all. Bob ten Berge deVisie automatiseringsdiensten -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 21 november 2001 12:14 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: relay problems I've just tested our mail server with www.abuse.net/relay.htm and on test 8 it appears to fail. RSET 250 2.0.0 Resetting MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@kingswinford.dudley.sch.uk Although our server doesn't relay the message it accepts it and generates an NDR, our ISP is refusing to allow us access to their smtp pop3 servers until this is closed. How do I solve this one in Exchange 2000 Thanks Stu List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: relay problems
www.abuse.net/relay.html -Mensaje original- De: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: Miércoles, 21 de Noviembre de 2001 08:14 a.m. Para: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Asunto: relay problems I've just tested our mail server with www.abuse.net/relay.htm and on test 8 it appears to fail. RSET 250 2.0.0 Resetting MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@kingswinford.dudley.sch.uk Although our server doesn't relay the message it accepts it and generates an NDR, our ISP is refusing to allow us access to their smtp pop3 servers until this is closed. How do I solve this one in Exchange 2000 Thanks Stu List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: relay problems
How come I go to this site get page not found Simon Weaver NT Domain Administrator Ext. 5544 Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: BOERO MANSILLA Roberto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2001 11:34:AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: relay problems www.abuse.net/relay.html -Mensaje original- De: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: Miércoles, 21 de Noviembre de 2001 08:14 a.m. Para: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Asunto: relay problems I've just tested our mail server with www.abuse.net/relay.htm and on test 8 it appears to fail. RSET 250 2.0.0 Resetting MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@kingswinford.dudley.sch.uk Although our server doesn't relay the message it accepts it and generates an NDR, our ISP is refusing to allow us access to their smtp pop3 servers until this is closed. How do I solve this one in Exchange 2000 Thanks Stu List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ... This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. Astrium Limited Gunnels Wood Road Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 2AS List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: relay problems
'cos you clicked on the bottom link which has htm instead of html. Open thoust eyes. Neil -Original Message- From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 21 November 2001 12:36 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: relay problems Subject: RE: relay problems How come I go to this site get page not found Simon Weaver NT Domain Administrator Ext. 5544 Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: BOERO MANSILLA Roberto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2001 11:34:AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: relay problems www.abuse.net/relay.html -Mensaje original- De: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: Miércoles, 21 de Noviembre de 2001 08:14 a.m. Para: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Asunto: relay problems I've just tested our mail server with www.abuse.net/relay.htm and on test 8 it appears to fail. RSET 250 2.0.0 Resetting MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@kingswinford.dudley.sch.uk Although our server doesn't relay the message it accepts it and generates an NDR, our ISP is refusing to allow us access to their smtp pop3 servers until this is closed. How do I solve this one in Exchange 2000 Thanks Stu List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ... This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. Astrium Limited Gunnels Wood Road Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 2AS List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: relay problems
If I see a hyper link - I click it :) Simon Weaver NT Domain Administrator Ext. 5544 Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2001 12:39:PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: relay problems 'cos you clicked on the bottom link which has htm instead of html. Open thoust eyes. Neil -Original Message- From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 21 November 2001 12:36 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: relay problems Subject: RE: relay problems How come I go to this site get page not found Simon Weaver NT Domain Administrator Ext. 5544 Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: BOERO MANSILLA Roberto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2001 11:34:AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: relay problems www.abuse.net/relay.html -Mensaje original- De: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: Miércoles, 21 de Noviembre de 2001 08:14 a.m. Para: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Asunto: relay problems I've just tested our mail server with www.abuse.net/relay.htm and on test 8 it appears to fail. RSET 250 2.0.0 Resetting MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@kingswinford.dudley.sch.uk Although our server doesn't relay the message it accepts it and generates an NDR, our ISP is refusing to allow us access to their smtp pop3 servers until this is closed. How do I solve this one in Exchange 2000 Thanks Stu List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ... This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. Astrium Limited Gunnels Wood Road Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 2AS List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ... This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. Astrium Limited Gunnels Wood Road Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 2AS List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: relay problems
But you didn't click them all, did you? ;-) -Original Message- From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 21 November 2001 12:44 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: relay problems Subject: RE: relay problems If I see a hyper link - I click it :) Simon Weaver NT Domain Administrator Ext. 5544 Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2001 12:39:PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: relay problems 'cos you clicked on the bottom link which has htm instead of html. Open thoust eyes. Neil -Original Message- From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 21 November 2001 12:36 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: relay problems Subject: RE: relay problems How come I go to this site get page not found Simon Weaver NT Domain Administrator Ext. 5544 Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: BOERO MANSILLA Roberto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2001 11:34:AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: relay problems www.abuse.net/relay.html -Mensaje original- De: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: Miércoles, 21 de Noviembre de 2001 08:14 a.m. Para: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Asunto: relay problems I've just tested our mail server with www.abuse.net/relay.htm and on test 8 it appears to fail. RSET 250 2.0.0 Resetting MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@kingswinford.dudley.sch.uk Although our server doesn't relay the message it accepts it and generates an NDR, our ISP is refusing to allow us access to their smtp pop3 servers until this is closed. How do I solve this one in Exchange 2000 Thanks Stu List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ... This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. Astrium Limited Gunnels Wood Road Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 2AS List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ... This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. Astrium Limited Gunnels Wood Road Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 2AS List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: relay problems
Of course :) !! Simon Weaver NT Domain Administrator Ext. 5544 Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2001 12:45:PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: relay problems But you didn't click them all, did you? ;-) -Original Message- From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 21 November 2001 12:44 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: relay problems Subject: RE: relay problems If I see a hyper link - I click it :) Simon Weaver NT Domain Administrator Ext. 5544 Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2001 12:39:PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: relay problems 'cos you clicked on the bottom link which has htm instead of html. Open thoust eyes. Neil -Original Message- From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 21 November 2001 12:36 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: relay problems Subject: RE: relay problems How come I go to this site get page not found Simon Weaver NT Domain Administrator Ext. 5544 Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: BOERO MANSILLA Roberto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2001 11:34:AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: relay problems www.abuse.net/relay.html -Mensaje original- De: Stuart Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: Miércoles, 21 de Noviembre de 2001 08:14 a.m. Para: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Asunto: relay problems I've just tested our mail server with www.abuse.net/relay.htm and on test 8 it appears to fail. RSET 250 2.0.0 Resetting MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@kingswinford.dudley.sch.uk Although our server doesn't relay the message it accepts it and generates an NDR, our ISP is refusing to allow us access to their smtp pop3 servers until this is closed. How do I solve this one in Exchange 2000 Thanks Stu List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ... This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. Astrium Limited Gunnels Wood Road Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 2AS List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ... This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. Astrium Limited Gunnels Wood Road Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 2AS List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ... This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited
RE: Relay Question,
Are you referring to relay secure? If so, there is a link if you look in the archives from this list. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Stuart J Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Question, Hi, We have a single exchange 2000 box sitting on our network behind an ISA Server. When I arrived at work this morning I noticed that email was a little slow (to say the least). Upon further investigation I found there were 1000s of messages behind sent through our server. How do I configure exchange to only allow email that is sent from or destined for our users. Thanks Stu List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay Question,
Isn't E2K relay secure out of the box? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - That is happiness; to be dissolved into something completely great. - Willa Cather, American author (1873-1947). - -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Question, Are you referring to relay secure? If so, there is a link if you look in the archives from this list. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Stuart J Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Question, Hi, We have a single exchange 2000 box sitting on our network behind an ISA Server. When I arrived at work this morning I noticed that email was a little slow (to say the least). Upon further investigation I found there were 1000s of messages behind sent through our server. How do I configure exchange to only allow email that is sent from or destined for our users. Thanks Stu List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay Question,
Sure is. Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 6:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Question, Isn't E2K relay secure out of the box? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - That is happiness; to be dissolved into something completely great. - Willa Cather, American author (1873-1947). - -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Question, Are you referring to relay secure? If so, there is a link if you look in the archives from this list. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Stuart J Pittwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay Question, Hi, We have a single exchange 2000 box sitting on our network behind an ISA Server. When I arrived at work this morning I noticed that email was a little slow (to say the least). Upon further investigation I found there were 1000s of messages behind sent through our server. How do I configure exchange to only allow email that is sent from or destined for our users. Thanks Stu List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay too secure??
Oh boy, here we go. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay too secure?? I only have one: stop using POPBeamer. -Original Message- From: Gordon J Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay too secure?? Hi All, I have a small exchange server (only one on site) it gets email from POPBeamer which in turn sends it onto exchange to be processed. I have noticed that since I turned the relay and anti-spam (Q196626) that the user on the network cant send email OUTWITH the organization ... am I missing something there? Any pointers/help would be appreciated List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay too secure??
Title: Message OUTWITH?? Huh? -Original Message-From: Gordon J Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:38 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Relay too secure?? Hi All, I have a small exchange server (only one on site) it gets email from POPBeamer which in turn sends it onto exchange to be processed. I have noticed that since I turned the relay and anti-spam (Q196626) that the user on the network cant send email OUTWITH the organization ... am I missing something there? Any pointers/help would be appreciatedList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
I have in the past had relays refuse when they could not perform a reverse dns lookup on the address I was coming from - I would check their end if you can email to other domains just fine.. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 23:19 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I did this and using SAlive made an SMTP connection to the IP address. It connected just fine. What seems strange is that it is coming from our IMS saying MSEXCH:IMS:HoneyBaked:Site:Server 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] To test the GroupShield scenario I stopped GroupShield and tried it again. It still failed so I am assuming that this is not the problem. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay You may want to nslookup on the MX record for DNS and make sure its pointing to the correct location. NSLOOKUP -Q=MX DOMAIN.COM -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay We are having a strange problem. We send to a particular domain and get an NDR back from our server saying that relaying is prohibited. This same domain can send to us and we can send to other domains just fine. We were able to send to them before. Has anyone else seen anything like this? We have recently upgraded GroupShield to 4.5. I called their tech support to see if this was anything that they may know about, but they said that it is not. I have tried searching Microsoft but could not find anything. Exchange 5.5 SP4 Thanks, John Montgomery Information Technology LAN Administrator HoneyBaked Ham List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
John It is a good idea to turn on logging and then see what appears in the eventlog, that is how I tracked down the issue we were having.. Cheers -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 20:30 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay We are having a strange problem. We send to a particular domain and get an NDR back from our server saying that relaying is prohibited. This same domain can send to us and we can send to other domains just fine. We were able to send to them before. Has anyone else seen anything like this? We have recently upgraded GroupShield to 4.5. I called their tech support to see if this was anything that they may know about, but they said that it is not. I have tried searching Microsoft but could not find anything. Exchange 5.5 SP4 Thanks, John Montgomery Information Technology LAN Administrator HoneyBaked Ham List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
Can you do a manual smtp session via telnet? Q153119 has the smtp commands. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Once you embrace the fact that most folks in the world don't get it, you waste a lot less time trying to teach pigs to dance. -Cthulhu Jones, June 2000 - -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 6:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay John It is a good idea to turn on logging and then see what appears in the eventlog, that is how I tracked down the issue we were having.. Cheers -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 20:30 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay We are having a strange problem. We send to a particular domain and get an NDR back from our server saying that relaying is prohibited. This same domain can send to us and we can send to other domains just fine. We were able to send to them before. Has anyone else seen anything like this? We have recently upgraded GroupShield to 4.5. I called their tech support to see if this was anything that they may know about, but they said that it is not. I have tried searching Microsoft but could not find anything. Exchange 5.5 SP4 Thanks, John Montgomery Information Technology LAN Administrator HoneyBaked Ham List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
How do you look to see if reverse DNS lookup is setup? I realize that this would be on their side, but I would like to know for myself. I have been looking but can not seem to find it. Thanks, John -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I have in the past had relays refuse when they could not perform a reverse dns lookup on the address I was coming from - I would check their end if you can email to other domains just fine.. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 23:19 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I did this and using SAlive made an SMTP connection to the IP address. It connected just fine. What seems strange is that it is coming from our IMS saying MSEXCH:IMS:HoneyBaked:Site:Server 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] To test the GroupShield scenario I stopped GroupShield and tried it again. It still failed so I am assuming that this is not the problem. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay You may want to nslookup on the MX record for DNS and make sure its pointing to the correct location. NSLOOKUP -Q=MX DOMAIN.COM -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay We are having a strange problem. We send to a particular domain and get an NDR back from our server saying that relaying is prohibited. This same domain can send to us and we can send to other domains just fine. We were able to send to them before. Has anyone else seen anything like this? We have recently upgraded GroupShield to 4.5. I called their tech support to see if this was anything that they may know about, but they said that it is not. I have tried searching Microsoft but could not find anything. Exchange 5.5 SP4 Thanks, John Montgomery Information Technology LAN Administrator HoneyBaked Ham List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
Do this Run nslookup first on your exchange machine (or whatever you call your mail system.) Then run nslookup again on the ip address it give you for that system and if it resolves then you are indeed setup for reverse lookups. You may want to run nslookup off an external dns server as internally it may work, but not external. H:\nslookup Default Server: ns5.domain.com Address: 192.168.1.32 server ns1.bt.net Default Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 mail.domain.com Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 Name:mail.domain.com Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Aliases: imap.domain.com xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 Name:mail.domain.com Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Aliases: imap.domain.com --- Let me know if you need anything else... Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 October 2001 15:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay How do you look to see if reverse DNS lookup is setup? I realize that this would be on their side, but I would like to know for myself. I have been looking but can not seem to find it. Thanks, John -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I have in the past had relays refuse when they could not perform a reverse dns lookup on the address I was coming from - I would check their end if you can email to other domains just fine.. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 23:19 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I did this and using SAlive made an SMTP connection to the IP address. It connected just fine. What seems strange is that it is coming from our IMS saying MSEXCH:IMS:HoneyBaked:Site:Server 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] To test the GroupShield scenario I stopped GroupShield and tried it again. It still failed so I am assuming that this is not the problem. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay You may want to nslookup on the MX record for DNS and make sure its pointing to the correct location. NSLOOKUP -Q=MX DOMAIN.COM -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay We are having a strange problem. We send to a particular domain and get an NDR back from our server saying that relaying is prohibited. This same domain can send to us and we can send to other domains just fine. We were able to send to them before. Has anyone else seen anything like this? We have recently upgraded GroupShield to 4.5. I called their tech support to see if this was anything that they may know about, but they said that it is not. I have tried searching Microsoft but could not find anything. Exchange 5.5 SP4 Thanks, John Montgomery Information Technology LAN Administrator HoneyBaked Ham List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
That wasn't what I was asking, but that does answer another question I had so thank you. : ) How can you tell if the IMS on Exchange is setup to perform reverse DNS lookups on inbound email, or does it just automatically do that? Thanks, John -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:47 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Do this Run nslookup first on your exchange machine (or whatever you call your mail system.) Then run nslookup again on the ip address it give you for that system and if it resolves then you are indeed setup for reverse lookups. You may want to run nslookup off an external dns server as internally it may work, but not external. H:\nslookup Default Server: ns5.domain.com Address: 192.168.1.32 server ns1.bt.net Default Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 mail.domain.com Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 Name:mail.domain.com Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Aliases: imap.domain.com xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 Name:mail.domain.com Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Aliases: imap.domain.com --- Let me know if you need anything else... Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 October 2001 15:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay How do you look to see if reverse DNS lookup is setup? I realize that this would be on their side, but I would like to know for myself. I have been looking but can not seem to find it. Thanks, John -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I have in the past had relays refuse when they could not perform a reverse dns lookup on the address I was coming from - I would check their end if you can email to other domains just fine.. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 23:19 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I did this and using SAlive made an SMTP connection to the IP address. It connected just fine. What seems strange is that it is coming from our IMS saying MSEXCH:IMS:HoneyBaked:Site:Server 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] To test the GroupShield scenario I stopped GroupShield and tried it again. It still failed so I am assuming that this is not the problem. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay You may want to nslookup on the MX record for DNS and make sure its pointing to the correct location. NSLOOKUP -Q=MX DOMAIN.COM -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay We are having a strange problem. We send to a particular domain and get an NDR back from our server saying that relaying is prohibited. This same domain can send to us and we can send to other domains just fine. We were able to send to them before. Has anyone else seen anything like this? We have recently upgraded GroupShield to 4.5. I called their tech support to see if this was anything that they may know about, but they said that it is not. I have tried searching Microsoft but could not find anything. Exchange 5.5 SP4 Thanks, John Montgomery Information Technology LAN Administrator HoneyBaked Ham List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
Hey John To my knowledge you cannot do this in Exchange 5.5, no idea about 2000. I use Sendmail Switch for my production Mail relays and they can be configured to do so. You may want to telnet to the smtp server in question and give it an HELO and it will give you the relay version you are dealing with. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 October 2001 16:10 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay That wasn't what I was asking, but that does answer another question I had so thank you. : ) How can you tell if the IMS on Exchange is setup to perform reverse DNS lookups on inbound email, or does it just automatically do that? Thanks, John -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:47 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Do this Run nslookup first on your exchange machine (or whatever you call your mail system.) Then run nslookup again on the ip address it give you for that system and if it resolves then you are indeed setup for reverse lookups. You may want to run nslookup off an external dns server as internally it may work, but not external. H:\nslookup Default Server: ns5.domain.com Address: 192.168.1.32 server ns1.bt.net Default Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 mail.domain.com Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 Name:mail.domain.com Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Aliases: imap.domain.com xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 Name:mail.domain.com Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Aliases: imap.domain.com --- Let me know if you need anything else... Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 October 2001 15:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay How do you look to see if reverse DNS lookup is setup? I realize that this would be on their side, but I would like to know for myself. I have been looking but can not seem to find it. Thanks, John -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I have in the past had relays refuse when they could not perform a reverse dns lookup on the address I was coming from - I would check their end if you can email to other domains just fine.. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 23:19 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I did this and using SAlive made an SMTP connection to the IP address. It connected just fine. What seems strange is that it is coming from our IMS saying MSEXCH:IMS:HoneyBaked:Site:Server 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] To test the GroupShield scenario I stopped GroupShield and tried it again. It still failed so I am assuming that this is not the problem. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay You may want to nslookup on the MX record for DNS and make sure its pointing to the correct location. NSLOOKUP -Q=MX DOMAIN.COM -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay We are having a strange problem. We send to a particular domain and get an NDR back from our server saying that relaying is prohibited. This same domain can send to us and we can send to other domains just fine. We were able to send to them before. Has anyone else seen anything like this? We have recently upgraded GroupShield to 4.5. I called their tech support to see if this was anything that they may know about, but they said that it is not. I have tried searching Microsoft but could not find anything. Exchange 5.5 SP4 Thanks, John Montgomery Information Technology LAN Administrator HoneyBaked Ham List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relay
Another interesting thing. If I do an NSLookup (set type=mx) on their email domain it returns an IP address for the mail exchanger. If I do this on any other domain it gives me an FQDN and then gives the IP of the FQDN later on in the information returned. I tried to do a reverse lookup on their IP and it does not resolve. They can send to us and I can send to them from my Hotmail account. Would this be any reason that I can not send to them from my Exchange server? As I am sure you can guess I am pretty new to DNS so please don't laugh too hard at they way I tried to describe the NSLookup. : ) -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Hey John To my knowledge you cannot do this in Exchange 5.5, no idea about 2000. I use Sendmail Switch for my production Mail relays and they can be configured to do so. You may want to telnet to the smtp server in question and give it an HELO and it will give you the relay version you are dealing with. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 October 2001 16:10 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay That wasn't what I was asking, but that does answer another question I had so thank you. : ) How can you tell if the IMS on Exchange is setup to perform reverse DNS lookups on inbound email, or does it just automatically do that? Thanks, John -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:47 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Do this Run nslookup first on your exchange machine (or whatever you call your mail system.) Then run nslookup again on the ip address it give you for that system and if it resolves then you are indeed setup for reverse lookups. You may want to run nslookup off an external dns server as internally it may work, but not external. H:\nslookup Default Server: ns5.domain.com Address: 192.168.1.32 server ns1.bt.net Default Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 mail.domain.com Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 Name:mail.domain.com Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Aliases: imap.domain.com xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 Name:mail.domain.com Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Aliases: imap.domain.com --- Let me know if you need anything else... Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 October 2001 15:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay How do you look to see if reverse DNS lookup is setup? I realize that this would be on their side, but I would like to know for myself. I have been looking but can not seem to find it. Thanks, John -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I have in the past had relays refuse when they could not perform a reverse dns lookup on the address I was coming from - I would check their end if you can email to other domains just fine.. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 23:19 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I did this and using SAlive made an SMTP connection to the IP address. It connected just fine. What seems strange is that it is coming from our IMS saying MSEXCH:IMS:HoneyBaked:Site:Server 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] To test the GroupShield scenario I stopped GroupShield and tried it again. It still failed so I am assuming that this is not the problem. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay You may want to nslookup on the MX record for DNS and make sure its pointing to the correct location. NSLOOKUP -Q=MX DOMAIN.COM -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay We are having a strange problem. We send to a particular domain and get an NDR back from our server saying that relaying is prohibited. This same domain can send to us and we can send to other domains just fine. We were able to send to them before. Has anyone else seen anything like this? We have recently upgraded GroupShield to 4.5. I called their tech support to see if this was anything that they may know about, but they said that it is not. I have tried searching Microsoft but could not find anything. Exchange 5.5 SP4 Thanks, John Montgomery Information Technology LAN Administrator HoneyBaked Ham List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com
RE: Relay
I would turn on the IMS logging and then restart it and try to send some email - then look in the App Event log and it will give you the exact error the IMS is getting from their mail relay. Cheers -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 October 2001 17:16 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Another interesting thing. If I do an NSLookup (set type=mx) on their email domain it returns an IP address for the mail exchanger. If I do this on any other domain it gives me an FQDN and then gives the IP of the FQDN later on in the information returned. I tried to do a reverse lookup on their IP and it does not resolve. They can send to us and I can send to them from my Hotmail account. Would this be any reason that I can not send to them from my Exchange server? As I am sure you can guess I am pretty new to DNS so please don't laugh too hard at they way I tried to describe the NSLookup. : ) -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Hey John To my knowledge you cannot do this in Exchange 5.5, no idea about 2000. I use Sendmail Switch for my production Mail relays and they can be configured to do so. You may want to telnet to the smtp server in question and give it an HELO and it will give you the relay version you are dealing with. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 October 2001 16:10 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay That wasn't what I was asking, but that does answer another question I had so thank you. : ) How can you tell if the IMS on Exchange is setup to perform reverse DNS lookups on inbound email, or does it just automatically do that? Thanks, John -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:47 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay Do this Run nslookup first on your exchange machine (or whatever you call your mail system.) Then run nslookup again on the ip address it give you for that system and if it resolves then you are indeed setup for reverse lookups. You may want to run nslookup off an external dns server as internally it may work, but not external. H:\nslookup Default Server: ns5.domain.com Address: 192.168.1.32 server ns1.bt.net Default Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 mail.domain.com Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 Name:mail.domain.com Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Aliases: imap.domain.com xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Server: ns1.bt.net Address: 194.72.6.52 Name:mail.domain.com Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Aliases: imap.domain.com --- Let me know if you need anything else... Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 October 2001 15:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay How do you look to see if reverse DNS lookup is setup? I realize that this would be on their side, but I would like to know for myself. I have been looking but can not seem to find it. Thanks, John -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I have in the past had relays refuse when they could not perform a reverse dns lookup on the address I was coming from - I would check their end if you can email to other domains just fine.. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 23:19 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay I did this and using SAlive made an SMTP connection to the IP address. It connected just fine. What seems strange is that it is coming from our IMS saying MSEXCH:IMS:HoneyBaked:Site:Server 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] To test the GroupShield scenario I stopped GroupShield and tried it again. It still failed so I am assuming that this is not the problem. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay You may want to nslookup on the MX record for DNS and make sure its pointing to the correct location. NSLOOKUP -Q=MX DOMAIN.COM -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay We are having a strange problem. We send to a particular domain and get an NDR back from our server saying that relaying is prohibited. This same domain can send to us and we can send to other domains just fine. We were able to send to them before. Has anyone else seen anything like this? We have recently upgraded GroupShield to 4.5. I called their tech support to see if this was anything
RE: Relay - from: address issue
ARGH!!! He didn't initially say WHO was doing the coding! If HE coded it, HE should fix it as he has time to. If he DIDN'T, he should ask those who DID to fix it! ARGH! Don't tell me what I understand what I don't. I *do* understand this situation would still want it to be "done right". ps. remember that I'm a Supervisor. when I say "I'd fix it", I really mean "I'll have my minions fix it." -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence." -- C.A. Beard - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still "not right" as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious "spare time" doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using the workaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." -Dan Quayle - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:30 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue don't think that's possible Michele... Michael - In 5.5 there are a whole set of new P2 and P1 resolve settings you can add into the registry(Q174755). In Exchange 2000 check out Q288635. This should resolve your problem. -Rick -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:31 PMTo:
RE: Relay - from: address issue
you couldn't be more wrong... Time has to be the most important commodity. Without it you can't help everyone as needed. If you don't plan.. you don't accomplish. Doesn't get any simpler than that. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Time is not the most important IT commodity.The point of IT is not to stand around and thump your chest and declare yourself king. Your job is to do what you can to alleviate a problem as simply, quicklyand cost effectively as possible. If you're any good, most of the time you can. Sometimes you can't. That's why you ask questions on these lists. That being said, I think it's about time for Kevin Snook to chime in: "I have a utility (how many messages do I start like this)" -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still "not right" as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious "spare time" doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using the workaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." -Dan Quayle - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:30 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue don't think that's possible Michele... Michael - In 5.5 there are a whole set of new P2 and P1 resolve settings you can add into the registry(Q174755). In Exchange 2000 check out Q288635. This should resolve your problem. -Rick -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue why not
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Title: Message You couldn't be more wrong... The time you have isa direct reflection on how well you plan and implement things. If you do it correctly, you have all the time in the world. If you don't well... I don't think there's any need for explanation there... -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:10 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue you couldn't be more wrong... Time has to be the most important commodity. Without it you can't help everyone as needed. If you don't plan.. you don't accomplish. Doesn't get any simpler than that. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Time is not the most important IT commodity.The point of IT is not to stand around and thump your chest and declare yourself king. Your job is to do what you can to alleviate a problem as simply, quicklyand cost effectively as possible. If you're any good, most of the time you can. Sometimes you can't. That's why you ask questions on these lists. That being said, I think it's about time for Kevin Snook to chime in: "I have a utility (how many messages do I start like this)" -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still "not right" as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious "spare time" doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using the workaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "If we don't succeed, we ru
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Sorry. If you don't accomplish, they don't accomplish. That's why I come in a 2am or the weekend to upgrade the server instead of doing it during the day. In my organization, I don't sell, interact with customers, etc. I am a 100% cost center. IT is supposed to be the solution, not the problem. Time is your Users most precious commodity. Your job is to make sure they can get their job done, so you can get a paycheck. IT should belike a great waiter - stuff should just magically appear when you need it. -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:10 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue you couldn't be more wrong... Time has to be the most important commodity. Without it you can't help everyone as needed. If you don't plan.. you don't accomplish. Doesn't get any simpler than that. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Time is not the most important IT commodity.The point of IT is not to stand around and thump your chest and declare yourself king. Your job is to do what you can to alleviate a problem as simply, quicklyand cost effectively as possible. If you're any good, most of the time you can. Sometimes you can't. That's why you ask questions on these lists. That being said, I think it's about time for Kevin Snook to chime in: "I have a utility (how many messages do I start like this)" -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still "not right" as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious "spare time" doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using the workaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "If we don't succeed, we ru
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Hmmm "For some reason, there are many forms on the web farm that generate email messages with improper [EMAIL PROTECTED] address in the from: field. Instead, they use first name, last name" I guess this sentence wouldn't tell you that he DIDN'T write the code if he HAD written the code.. why would he make a statement like that?? It seems now that twice you've not read the email you're sending support on... It's obvious your a supervisor... you're as useful asmost other IT management... Oh BTW - In a country that values free speech... I can say what I want too and too whom I want too... if you choose not to read it.. that's your business. -Rick "Bobbin-and-Weaving" Ward -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 6:43 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue ARGH!!! He didn't initially say WHO was doing the coding! If HE coded it, HE should fix it as he has time to. If he DIDN'T, he should ask those who DID to fix it! ARGH! Don't tell me what I understand what I don't. I *do* understand this situation would still want it to be "done right". ps. remember that I'm a Supervisor. when I say "I'd fix it", I really mean "I'll have my minions fix it." -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence." -- C.A. Beard - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still "not right" as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious "spare time" doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using the workaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -
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"For some reason" could be taken to mean that he did in fact do it. *Whoever* [1] did it should clean up their slop, workaround or not. And your "Free Speach" mantra is moot - I'm not Congress. ...and if you don't like my "support", then ask for a refund of your subscription fee. If you find me un-useful, then feel free to add me to your killfile. [1] whomever?? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving definitely isn't for you... - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 12:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Hmmm "For some reason, there are many forms on the web farm that generate email messages with improper [EMAIL PROTECTED] address in the from: field. Instead, they use first name, last name" I guess this sentence wouldn't tell you that he DIDN'T write the code if he HAD written the code.. why would he make a statement like that?? It seems now that twice you've not read the email you're sending support on... It's obvious your a supervisor... you're as useful asmost other IT management... Oh BTW - In a country that values free speech... I can say what I want too and too whom I want too... if you choose not to read it.. that's your business. -Rick "Bobbin-and-Weaving" Ward -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 6:43 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue ARGH!!! He didn't initially say WHO was doing the coding! If HE coded it, HE should fix it as he has time to. If he DIDN'T, he should ask those who DID to fix it! ARGH! Don't tell me what I understand what I don't. I *do* understand this situation would still want it to be "done right". ps. remember that I'm a Supervisor. when I say "I'd fix it", I really mean "I'll have my minions fix it." -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence." -- C.A. Beard - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still "not right" as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious "spare time" doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using the workaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 differ
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I attended Michèle's wedding. My guess is since your spare time is used learning XP and MSI, she is 'getting it' more than you. In business, time doesn't stand alone. It is a variable that must also be combined unfortunately with money and effort. My recommendation would be to rebuild the Sendmail server. Then fix the scripts. Then reinstate the Exchange Server. I don;t think you'll get Exchange, which complies to all relevant RFC's, to 'misbehave' in the manner you seek. Siegfried Weber (www.cdolive.com) or Kevin Snookmay provide assistance with possible coding avenues to take, such as an SMTP transport event sink to change the from toa proper SMTP address or something along those lines. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still "not right" as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious "spare time" doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using the workaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." -Dan Quayle - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:30 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue don't think that's possible Michele... Michael - In 5.5 there are a whole set of new P2 and P1 resolve settings you can add into the registry(Q174755). In Exchange 2000 check out Q288635. This should resolve your problem. -Rick -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tues
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Come on folks, this is getting very old. Let's let it go. Or take it off line, but stop cluttering the list with bickering. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue I attended Michèle's wedding. My guess is since your spare time is used learning XP and MSI, she is 'getting it' more than you. In business, time doesn't stand alone. It is a variable that must also be combined unfortunately with money and effort. My recommendation would be to rebuild the Sendmail server. Then fix the scripts. Then reinstate the Exchange Server. I don;t think you'll get Exchange, which complies to all relevant RFC's, to 'misbehave' in the manner you seek. Siegfried Weber (www.cdolive.com http://www.cdolive.com ) or Kevin Snook may provide assistance with possible coding avenues to take, such as an SMTP transport event sink to change the from to a proper SMTP address or something along those lines. William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP -Original Message- From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still not right as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious spare time doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using the workaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com http://ladysun1969.tripod.com/ Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk http://www.tiggercam.co.uk/ - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message- From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message- From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100
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So what's the point in having a go at her, Rick? Michele is allowed toput forward her own opinions without someone chastising her! even if you dont think she's right. Stu. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 23 October 2001 22:24To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay -f rom: address issue Time is not the most important IT commodity.The point of IT is not to stand around and thump your chest and declare yourself king. Your job is to do what you can to alleviate a problem as simply, quicklyand coste ffectively as possible. If you're any good, most of the time you can. Sometimes you can't. That's why you ask questions on thesel ists. That being said, I think it's about time for Kevin Snook to chime in: "I have a utility (how many messages do I start like this)" -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still "not right" as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious "spare time" doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01P MTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using thew orkaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: addressi ssue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." -Dan Quayle - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:30 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: addressi ssue don't think that's possible Michele... Michael - In 5.5 there are a whole set of new P2 and P1 resolve settings you can add into the registry(Q174755). In Exchange 2000 check out Q288635. This should resolve your problem. -Rick -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: addressi ssue why not require them to use prop
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You know.. sometime late last night... I re-thought me sending that email... and in hindsight probably shouldn't have stopped, dropped and rolled before hitting that evil SEND button. I was stressed(bad time to reply to emails where you view someone not getting your points) and was trying to be direct and succinct at the same time. Guess I blew that one.. sorry all. -Rick -Original Message-From: Stuart Tonge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:27 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue So what's the point in having a go at her, Rick? Michele is allowed toput forward her own opinions without someone chastising her! even if you dont think she's right. Stu. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 23 October 2001 22:24To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay -f rom: address issue Time is not the most important IT commodity.The point of IT is not to stand around and thump your chest and declare yourself king. Your job is to do what you can to alleviate a problem as simply, quicklyand coste ffectively as possible. If you're any good, most of the time you can. Sometimes you can't. That's why you ask questions on thesel ists. That being said, I think it's about time for Kevin Snook to chime in: "I have a utility (how many messages do I start like this)" -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still "not right" as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious "spare time" doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01P MTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using thew orkaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: addressi ssue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." -Dan Quayle - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October
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*Hug* -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "We write the way we do for several reasons. One, we're capable of understanding the subtle differences between words that to the ignorant are differentiated only by the 'fanciness.' And second, many of us enjoy language, just get a kick out of recklessly throwing big words around." - David Wren-Hardin - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 2:26 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You know.. sometime late last night... I re-thought me sending that email... and in hindsight probably shouldn't have stopped, dropped and rolled before hitting that evil SEND button. I was stressed(bad time to reply to emails where you view someone not getting your points) and was trying to be direct and succinct at the same time. Guess I blew that one.. sorry all. -Rick -Original Message-From: Stuart Tonge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:27 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue So what's the point in having a go at her, Rick? Michele is allowed toput forward her own opinions without someone chastising her! even if you dont think she's right. Stu. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 23 October 2001 22:24To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay -f rom: address issue Time is not the most important IT commodity.The point of IT is not to stand around and thump your chest and declare yourself king. Your job is to do what you can to alleviate a problem as simply, quicklyand coste ffectively as possible. If you're any good, most of the time you can. Sometimes you can't. That's why you ask questions on thesel ists. That being said, I think it's about time for Kevin Snook to chime in: "I have a utility (how many messages do I start like this)" -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still "not right" as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious "spare time" doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01P MTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using thew orkaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Mess
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Normally, I'd check orbz.org first to see if you're listed as an open relay. You are NOT. ORBZ Database Information IP: 216.77.121.3 IP not found in database = Direct DNS Lookups inputs.orbz.org: clean outputs.orbz.org: clean relays.ordb.org: clean orbs.dorkslayers.com: clean dev.null.dk: clean relays.osirusoft.com: clean We are having a strange problem. We send to a particular domain and get an NDR back from our server saying that relaying is prohibited. This same domain can send to us and we can send to other domains just fine. We were able to send to them before. Has anyone else seen anything like this? We have recently upgraded GroupShield to 4.5. I called their tech support to see if this was anything that they may know about, but they said that it is not. I have tried searching Microsoft but could not find anything. Exchange 5.5 SP4 Thanks, John Montgomery Information Technology LAN Administrator HoneyBaked Ham List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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Title: RE: Relay I also use this as a check as well.. it comes in handy at times.. use both options. The first one does the deeper check. http://www.zmailer.org/mxverify.html -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 1:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay You may want to nslookup on the MX record for DNS and make sure its pointing to the correct location. NSLOOKUP -Q=MX DOMAIN.COM -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay We are having a strange problem. We send to a particular domain and get an NDR back from our server saying that relaying is prohibited. This same domain can send to us and we can send to other domains just fine. We were able to send to them before. Has anyone else seen anything like this? We have recently upgraded GroupShield to 4.5. I called their tech support to see if this was anything that they may know about, but they said that it is not. I have tried searching Microsoft but could not find anything. Exchange 5.5 SP4 Thanks, John Montgomery Information Technology LAN Administrator HoneyBaked Ham List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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I did this and using SAlive made an SMTP connection to the IP address. It connected just fine. What seems strange is that it is coming from our IMS saying MSEXCH:IMS:HoneyBaked:Site:Server 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] To test the GroupShield scenario I stopped GroupShield and tried it again. It still failed so I am assuming that this is not the problem. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay You may want to nslookup on the MX record for DNS and make sure its pointing to the correct location. NSLOOKUP -Q=MX DOMAIN.COM -Original Message- From: Montgomery, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay We are having a strange problem. We send to a particular domain and get an NDR back from our server saying that relaying is prohibited. This same domain can send to us and we can send to other domains just fine. We were able to send to them before. Has anyone else seen anything like this? We have recently upgraded GroupShield to 4.5. I called their tech support to see if this was anything that they may know about, but they said that it is not. I have tried searching Microsoft but could not find anything. Exchange 5.5 SP4 Thanks, John Montgomery Information Technology LAN Administrator HoneyBaked Ham List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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This part of the email was what I was zeroing in on: "Given the large number of forms and the weeks of time it will take to fix this properly." Having done this... he's right... it's not worth the time.. just altering the resolver solves the problem in 15 min. vs.. the weeks to correct it at the APP level. It is indeed possible... but then again so is rebuilding the WTC with 1 man, a shovel and a flashlight... it's all in your perspective of time I suppose.. ;) cheers -Rick -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." -Dan Quayle - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:30 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue don't think that's possible Michele... Michael - In 5.5 there are a whole set of new P2 and P1 resolve settings you can add into the registry(Q174755). In Exchange 2000 check out Q288635. This should resolve your problem. -Rick -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue why not require them to use properly formatted emails in the FROM field? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Sports Commentary Gem: "Sure there have been injuries and deaths in boxing - but none of them serious" (Alan Minter) - -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:29 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Relay - from: address issue This is a bit off the wall, but here goes. Recently I replaced an older Linux + SendMail server that died with an Exchange 2000 server. This server is used primarily as a relay host for a web farm we have. The problem has to do with malformed from addresses. For some reason, there are many forms on the web farm that generate email messages with improper [EMAIL PROTECTED] address in the from: field. Instead, they use first name, last name. It appears that the sendmail server did not care about the from address and would happily send out this type of malformed email message. The problem is that Exchange will not send this type of message. Given the large number of forms and the weeks of time it will take to fix this properly, does anybody know of a way to have Exchange turn off from address validation? This would give me some breathing room till a real solution is worked on. Thanks ahead of time for any help. MikeList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why its wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really dont want to do -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. -Dan Quayle - -Original Message- From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue don't think that's possible Michele... Michael - In 5.5 there are a whole set of new P2 and P1 resolve settings you can add into the registry(Q174755). In Exchange 2000 check out Q288635. This should resolve your problem. -Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue why not require them to use properly formatted emails in the FROM field? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Sports Commentary Gem: Sure there have been injuries and deaths in boxing - but none of them serious (Alan Minter) - -Original Message- From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay - from: address issue This is a bit off the wall, but here goes. Recently I replaced an older Linux + SendMail server that died with an Exchange 2000 server. This server is used primarily as a relay host for a web farm we have. The problem has to do with malformed from addresses. For some reason, there are many forms on the web farm that generate email messages with improper [EMAIL PROTECTED] address in the from: field. Instead, they use first name, last name. It appears that the sendmail server did not care about the from address and would happily send out this type of malformed email message. The problem is that Exchange will not send this type of message. Given the large number of forms and the weeks of time it will take to fix this properly, does anybody know of a way to have Exchange turn off from address validation? This would give me some breathing room till a real solution is worked on. Thanks ahead of time for any help. Mike List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using the workaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." -Dan Quayle - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:30 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue don't think that's possible Michele... Michael - In 5.5 there are a whole set of new P2 and P1 resolve settings you can add into the registry(Q174755). In Exchange 2000 check out Q288635. This should resolve your problem. -Rick -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue why not require them to use properly formatted emails in the FROM field? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Sports Commentary Gem: "Sure there have been injuries and deaths in boxing - but none of them serious" (Alan Minter) - -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:29 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Relay - from: address issue This is a bit off the wall, but here goes. Recently I replaced an older Linux + SendMail server that died with an Exchange 2000 server. This server is used primarily as a relay host for a web farm we have. The problem has to do with malformed from addresses. For some reason, there are many forms on the web farm that generate email messages with improper [EMAIL PROTECTED] address in the from: field. Instead, they use first name, last name. It appears that the sendmail server did not care about the from address and would happily send out this type of malformed email message. The problem is that Exchange will not send this type of message. Given the large number of forms and the weeks of time it will take to fix this properly, does anybody know of a way to have Exchange turn off from address validation? This would give me some breathing room till a real solution is worked on. Thanks ahead of time for any help. Mike List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ a
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How I wish life were this easy -Original Message- From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still not right as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious spare time doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using the workaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message- From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message- From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. -Dan Quayle - -Original Message- From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue don't think that's possible Michele... Michael - In 5.5 there are a whole set of new P2 and P1 resolve settings you can add into the registry(Q174755). In Exchange 2000 check out Q288635. This should resolve your problem. -Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue why not require them to use properly formatted emails in the FROM field? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Sports Commentary Gem: Sure there have been injuries and deaths in boxing - but none of them serious (Alan Minter) - -Original Message- From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay - from: address issue This is a bit off the wall, but here goes. Recently I replaced an older Linux + SendMail server that died
RE: Relay - from: address issue
um... I'd step off that soapbox before you become even more of a target than you already are, Rick... -- DrewVisit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now!Pure religion and undefiled [...] is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. (James 1:27) -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:11 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Unfortunately Michele you don't get it IMHO... To almost all IT professionals time is the MOST important commodity. If you did get it, then why would you spend spare time(that is rare and almost non-existent in the 10+ years I've been doing this) fixing a problem you've already corrected at the Exchange level. Seems like duplication of effort. I understand it's still "not right" as the scripts should be corrected. But why would the IT professional need to do this??? He/She didn't write the bad code?? I'd make THEM fix it while I spent my precious "spare time" doing something more constructive like exploring XP, Learning MSI, etc... end of session -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:01 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue No, I get it now. thankyouverymuch. and I agree that a workaround is appropriate in this case. but, knowing that they're wrong would irritate me enough that I'd fix it anyway, even while using the workaround in the meantime. *shrug* that's just me. -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they make as they go flying by. - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message-From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." -Dan Quayle - -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:30 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue don't think that's possible Michele... Michael - In 5.5 there are a whole set of new P2 and P1 resolve settings you can add into the registry(Q174755). In Exchange 2000 check out Q288635. This should resolve your problem. -Rick -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Relay - from: address issue why not require them to use properly formatted emails in the FROM field? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk --
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I hate to recommend this, but you might be able to use the built-in SMTP server in IIS for what you need. I know that I can throw all sorts of email without regard for its from address with IIS. It would keep you from having too mixed of an environment. -Original Message- From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue Thanks for the tip, but its not a fix in my case. See this is a relay server, the user accounts dont live on this system anywhere. The P2 fix will do a lookup based on the first last name, only if they exist in the global catalog, which in this case, they dont. Thanks for the tip, looks like I might be putting in sendmail till we can get this fixed properly (yuck) Mike -Original Message- From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue It's okay Michael... from the last response sent.. Michele isn't getting it.. -Rick -Original Message- From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue The problem is that we have over 100 different clients sites with over 20 different programmers with over 10 different managers. Do you get the idea now. It is going to take me weeks just to get the info out to the field of what they have been doing wrong in the past. Then I will have to justify why it's wrong to use a first and last name instead of an email address, so on and so on. I am just trying to find a way to force Exchange to misbehave long enough for me to fix the real problem, ignorance. Otherwise, I have to dust off my Linux and sendmail books which I really, really, really don't want to do... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue You're right that the P2 and P1 stuff will probably solve his problems, but why wouldn't it be possible for the forms to be coded to generate correct addresses? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. -Dan Quayle - -Original Message- From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue don't think that's possible Michele... Michael - In 5.5 there are a whole set of new P2 and P1 resolve settings you can add into the registry(Q174755). In Exchange 2000 check out Q288635. This should resolve your problem. -Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Relay - from: address issue why not require them to use properly formatted emails in the FROM field? -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Sports Commentary Gem: Sure there have been injuries and deaths in boxing - but none of them serious (Alan Minter) - -Original Message- From: Michael Morisoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relay - from: address issue This is a bit off the wall, but here goes. Recently I replaced an older Linux + SendMail server that died with an Exchange 2000 server. This server is used primarily as a relay host for a web farm we have. The problem has to do with malformed from addresses. For some reason, there are many forms on the web farm that generate email messages with improper [EMAIL PROTECTED] address in the from: field. Instead, they use first name, last name. It appears that the sendmail server did not care about the from address and would happily send out this type of malformed email message. The problem is that Exchange will not send this type of message. Given the large number of forms and the weeks of time it will take to fix this properly, does anybody know of a way to have Exchange turn off from address validation? This would give me some breathing room till a real solution is worked on. Thanks ahead of time for any help. Mike List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List
