Re: ex2k3 for dummies

2008-06-11 Thread ROBERT WILCOX
Do you have one SMTP connector setup, and it sits on the server in CityB?  Does 
it have both servers listed as bridgeheads?  Try having just CityB listed.  
This means that when ServerA sends a mail it will travel to ServerB, and 
ServerB will send it on.

Info on 4.4.7 -> 
http://www.123together.com/Support/error_447_non_delivery_message.htm

Thanks
Rob


- Original Message 
From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 2:44:27 PM
Subject: ex2k3 for dummies

I have a Ex2k3 server in city A and city B, connected by MPLS (VPN).

They see each other just fine, I can move mailboxes, etc.

City B can send to the internet just fine, but an email to a City A mailbox 
gets a 4.4.7.

Where do I start?
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Re: ex2k3 for dummies

2008-06-11 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
Each server has it's own SMTP connector.

Part of the idea is redundancy, if City A is under a hurricane, B keeps on
ticking.

MyCompany.com DNS points to A, MyCompany.net DNS points to B


On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:56 AM, ROBERT WILCOX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Do you have one SMTP connector setup, and it sits on the server in CityB?
> Does it have both servers listed as bridgeheads?  Try having just CityB
> listed.  This means that when ServerA sends a mail it will travel to
> ServerB, and ServerB will send it on.
>
> Info on 4.4.7 ->
> http://www.123together.com/Support/error_447_non_delivery_message.htm
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 2:44:27 PM
> Subject: ex2k3 for dummies
>
> I have a Ex2k3 server in city A and city B, connected by MPLS (VPN).
>
> They see each other just fine, I can move mailboxes, etc.
>
> City B can send to the internet just fine, but an email to a City A mailbox
> gets a 4.4.7.
>
> Where do I start?
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: ex2k3 for dummies

2008-06-11 Thread ROBERT WILCOX
Have a look at the link I included..  the 4.4.7 is coming from the receiving 
server at the destination domain, because it's having problems looking up the 
MX record..  (I think).

Thanks
Rob


- Original Message 
From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 3:34:34 PM
Subject: Re: ex2k3 for dummies

Each server has it's own SMTP connector.

Part of the idea is redundancy, if City A is under a hurricane, B keeps on 
ticking.

MyCompany.com DNS points to A, MyCompany.net DNS points to B



On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:56 AM, ROBERT WILCOX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do you have one SMTP connector setup, and it sits on the server in CityB?  Does 
it have both servers listed as bridgeheads?  Try having just CityB listed.  
This means that when ServerA sends a mail it will travel to ServerB, and 
ServerB will send it on.

Info on 4.4.7 -> 
http://www.123together.com/Support/error_447_non_delivery_message.htm

Thanks
Rob



- Original Message 
From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 2:44:27 PM
Subject: ex2k3 for dummies

I have a Ex2k3 server in city A and city B, connected by MPLS (VPN).

They see each other just fine, I can move mailboxes, etc.

City B can send to the internet just fine, but an email to a City A mailbox 
gets a 4.4.7.

Where do I start?
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Re: ex2k3 for dummies

2008-06-11 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
I do halff-suspect it's a DNS issue (all one domain and all) but I'm not
sure of how to go from here.


On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:40 AM, ROBERT WILCOX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Have a look at the link I included..  the 4.4.7 is coming from the
> receiving server at the destination domain, because it's having problems
> looking up the MX record..  (I think).
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
> - Original Message 
> From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 3:34:34 PM
> Subject: Re: ex2k3 for dummies
>
> Each server has it's own SMTP connector.
>
> Part of the idea is redundancy, if City A is under a hurricane, B keeps on
> ticking.
>
> MyCompany.com DNS points to A, MyCompany.net DNS points to B
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:56 AM, ROBERT WILCOX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Do you have one SMTP connector setup, and it sits on the server in CityB?
>> Does it have both servers listed as bridgeheads?  Try having just CityB
>> listed.  This means that when ServerA sends a mail it will travel to
>> ServerB, and ServerB will send it on.
>>
>> Info on 4.4.7 ->
>> http://www.123together.com/Support/error_447_non_delivery_message.htm
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> - Original Message 
>> From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
>> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 2:44:27 PM
>> Subject: ex2k3 for dummies
>>
>> I have a Ex2k3 server in city A and city B, connected by MPLS (VPN).
>>
>> They see each other just fine, I can move mailboxes, etc.
>>
>> City B can send to the internet just fine, but an email to a City A
>> mailbox gets a 4.4.7.
>>
>> Where do I start?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: ex2k3 for dummies

2008-06-11 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
Here is where it get's confusing.

The following occurs from a command prompt on the City B Exch 2k3 server...

TELNET mail.mycompany.com

220 cordoba.mycompany.local Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version:
6.0.3790.3959 ready at  Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:05:49 -0600
helo
250 cordoba.mycompany.local Hello [12.23.178.130]
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK
rcpt to:kavalec
250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
data
354 Start mail input; end with .
the quick red fox
.
250 2.6.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued mail
for delivery


And - of course - I get the email in City A

The above works manually, so what - in City B's Ex2k3 server (on the above
machine) - is causing the 4.4.7 ?




On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:20 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I do halff-suspect it's a DNS issue (all one domain and all) but I'm not
> sure of how to go from here.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:40 AM, ROBERT WILCOX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Have a look at the link I included..  the 4.4.7 is coming from the
>> receiving server at the destination domain, because it's having problems
>> looking up the MX record..  (I think).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rob
>>
>> - Original Message 
>> From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
>> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 3:34:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: ex2k3 for dummies
>>
>> Each server has it's own SMTP connector.
>>
>> Part of the idea is redundancy, if City A is under a hurricane, B keeps on
>> ticking.
>>
>> MyCompany.com DNS points to A, MyCompany.net DNS points to B
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:56 AM, ROBERT WILCOX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have one SMTP connector setup, and it sits on the server in
>>> CityB?  Does it have both servers listed as bridgeheads?  Try having just
>>> CityB listed.  This means that when ServerA sends a mail it will travel to
>>> ServerB, and ServerB will send it on.
>>>
>>> Info on 4.4.7 ->
>>> http://www.123together.com/Support/error_447_non_delivery_message.htm
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message 
>>> From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 2:44:27 PM
>>> Subject: ex2k3 for dummies
>>>
>>> I have a Ex2k3 server in city A and city B, connected by MPLS (VPN).
>>>
>>> They see each other just fine, I can move mailboxes, etc.
>>>
>>> City B can send to the internet just fine, but an email to a City A
>>> mailbox gets a 4.4.7.
>>>
>>> Where do I start?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



-- 
Gregory Waleed Kavalec
-
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired,
represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are not
fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending
money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its
scientists, the hopes of its children.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

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RE: ex2k3 for dummies

2008-06-11 Thread Barsodi.John
Maybe it's me, but the entire setup seems a bit confusing.

 

Are these servers part of the same Exchange org?  Why are you using two
different TLD's?  .net and .com for redundancy opposed to using MX
records and cost.

 

Where are you getting the 4.4.7 when you send inbound from the internet?
Or between servers?  If between servers are you delivering the mail via
the internet or the internal MPLS connection?

 

 

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ex2k3 for dummies

 

Here is where it get's confusing.

The following occurs from a command prompt on the City B Exch 2k3
server...

TELNET mail.mycompany.com

220 cordoba.mycompany.local Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version:
6.0.3790.3959 ready at  Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:05:49 -0600
helo
250 cordoba.mycompany.local Hello [12.23.178.130]
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK
rcpt to:kavalec
250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
data
354 Start mail input; end with .
the quick red fox
.
250 2.6.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued
mail for delivery



And - of course - I get the email in City A

The above works manually, so what - in City B's Ex2k3 server (on the
above machine) - is causing the 4.4.7 ?





On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:20 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I do halff-suspect it's a DNS issue (all one domain and all) but I'm not
sure of how to go from here.



On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:40 AM, ROBERT WILCOX
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Have a look at the link I included..  the 4.4.7 is coming from the
receiving server at the destination domain, because it's having problems
looking up the MX record..  (I think).

Thanks
Rob

- Original Message 
From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 

Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 3:34:34 PM
Subject: Re: ex2k3 for dummies

Each server has it's own SMTP connector.

Part of the idea is redundancy, if City A is under a hurricane, B keeps
on ticking.

MyCompany.com DNS points to A, MyCompany.net DNS points to B



On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:56 AM, ROBERT WILCOX
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do you have one SMTP connector setup, and it sits on the server in
CityB?  Does it have both servers listed as bridgeheads?  Try having
just CityB listed.  This means that when ServerA sends a mail it will
travel to ServerB, and ServerB will send it on.

Info on 4.4.7 ->
http://www.123together.com/Support/error_447_non_delivery_message.htm

Thanks
Rob

 

- Original Message 
From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 2:44:27 PM
Subject: ex2k3 for dummies

I have a Ex2k3 server in city A and city B, connected by MPLS (VPN).

They see each other just fine, I can move mailboxes, etc.

City B can send to the internet just fine, but an email to a City A
mailbox gets a 4.4.7.

Where do I start?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




-- 
Gregory Waleed Kavalec
-
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired,
represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are
not fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not
spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the
genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.
Dwight D. Eisenhower 

 


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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

Re: ex2k3 for dummies

2008-06-11 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
Two servers, same AD domain, different TLD's to the net.

The 4.4.7 happens ONLY on messages going from server to server.



On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Barsodi.John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Maybe it's me, but the entire setup seems a bit confusing.
>
>
>
> Are these servers part of the same Exchange org?  Why are you using two
> different TLD's?  .net and .com for redundancy opposed to using MX records
> and cost.
>
>
>
> Where are you getting the 4.4.7 when you send inbound from the internet? Or
> between servers?  If between servers are you delivering the mail via the
> internet or the internal MPLS connection?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:19 AM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: ex2k3 for dummies
>
>
>
> Here is where it get's confusing.
>
> The following occurs from a command prompt on the City B Exch 2k3 server...
>
> TELNET mail.mycompany.com
>
> 220 cordoba.mycompany.local Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version:
> 6.0.3790.3959 ready at  Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:05:49 -0600
> helo
> 250 cordoba.mycompany.local Hello [12.23.178.130]
> mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK
> rcpt to:kavalec
> 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> data
> 354 Start mail input; end with .
> the quick red fox
> .
> 250 2.6.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued
> mail for delivery
>
>
>
> And - of course - I get the email in City A
>
> The above works manually, so what - in City B's Ex2k3 server (on the above
> machine) - is causing the 4.4.7 ?
>
>
>
>  On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:20 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> I do halff-suspect it's a DNS issue (all one domain and all) but I'm not
> sure of how to go from here.
>
>On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:40 AM, ROBERT WILCOX <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Have a look at the link I included..  the 4.4.7 is coming from the
> receiving server at the destination domain, because it's having problems
> looking up the MX record..  (I think).
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
> - Original Message 
> From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
>
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 3:34:34 PM
> Subject: Re: ex2k3 for dummies
>
> Each server has it's own SMTP connector.
>
> Part of the idea is redundancy, if City A is under a hurricane, B keeps on
> ticking.
>
> MyCompany.com DNS points to A, MyCompany.net DNS points to B
>
>  On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:56 AM, ROBERT WILCOX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> Do you have one SMTP connector setup, and it sits on the server in CityB?
> Does it have both servers listed as bridgeheads?  Try having just CityB
> listed.  This means that when ServerA sends a mail it will travel to
> ServerB, and ServerB will send it on.
>
> Info on 4.4.7 ->
> http://www.123together.com/Support/error_447_non_delivery_message.htm
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 2:44:27 PM
> Subject: ex2k3 for dummies
>
> I have a Ex2k3 server in city A and city B, connected by MPLS (VPN).
>
> They see each other just fine, I can move mailboxes, etc.
>
> City B can send to the internet just fine, but an email to a City A mailbox
> gets a 4.4.7.
>
> Where do I start?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gregory Waleed Kavalec
> -
> Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired,
> represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are not
> fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending
> money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its
> scientists, the hopes of its children.
> Dwight D. Eisenhower
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
Gregory Waleed Kavalec
-
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired,
represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are not
fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending
money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its
scientists, the hopes of its children.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: ex2k3 for dummies

2008-06-11 Thread Barsodi.John
How are you routing between sites?  Over the internet or over the MPLS?
If over the MLPS, how is that configured?  Anything filtering in between
the servers?

 

When you performed that telnet session, what IP were you connecting to?
The internal or external IP?

 

Did that test message you performed earlier end up in the mailbox?

 

A 4.4.7 generally means there is a problem with the recipient's address.

 

 

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ex2k3 for dummies

 

Two servers, same AD domain, different TLD's to the net.

The 4.4.7 happens ONLY on messages going from server to server.




On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Barsodi.John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Maybe it's me, but the entire setup seems a bit confusing.

 

Are these servers part of the same Exchange org?  Why are you using two
different TLD's?  .net and .com for redundancy opposed to using MX
records and cost.

 

Where are you getting the 4.4.7 when you send inbound from the internet?
Or between servers?  If between servers are you delivering the mail via
the internet or the internal MPLS connection?

 

 

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:19 AM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: Re: ex2k3 for dummies

 

Here is where it get's confusing.

The following occurs from a command prompt on the City B Exch 2k3
server...

TELNET mail.mycompany.com

220 cordoba.mycompany.local Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version:
6.0.3790.3959 ready at  Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:05:49 -0600
helo
250 cordoba.mycompany.local Hello [12.23.178.130]
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK
rcpt to:kavalec
250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
data
354 Start mail input; end with .
the quick red fox
.
250 2.6.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued
mail for delivery



And - of course - I get the email in City A

The above works manually, so what - in City B's Ex2k3 server (on the
above machine) - is causing the 4.4.7 ?




On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:20 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I do halff-suspect it's a DNS issue (all one domain and all) but I'm not
sure of how to go from here.

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:40 AM, ROBERT WILCOX
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Have a look at the link I included..  the 4.4.7 is coming from the
receiving server at the destination domain, because it's having problems
looking up the MX record..  (I think).

Thanks
Rob

- Original Message 
From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 

Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 3:34:34 PM
Subject: Re: ex2k3 for dummies

Each server has it's own SMTP connector.

Part of the idea is redundancy, if City A is under a hurricane, B keeps
on ticking.

MyCompany.com DNS points to A, MyCompany.net DNS points to B

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:56 AM, ROBERT WILCOX
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do you have one SMTP connector setup, and it sits on the server in
CityB?  Does it have both servers listed as bridgeheads?  Try having
just CityB listed.  This means that when ServerA sends a mail it will
travel to ServerB, and ServerB will send it on.

Info on 4.4.7 ->
http://www.123together.com/Support/error_447_non_delivery_message.htm

Thanks
Rob

 

- Original Message 
From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 2:44:27 PM
Subject: ex2k3 for dummies

I have a Ex2k3 server in city A and city B, connected by MPLS (VPN).

They see each other just fine, I can move mailboxes, etc.

City B can send to the internet just fine, but an email to a City A
mailbox gets a 4.4.7.

Where do I start?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




-- 
Gregory Waleed Kavalec
-
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired,
represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are
not fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not
spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the
genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.
Dwight D. Eisenhower 

 

 

 




-- 
Gregory Waleed Kavalec
-
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired,
represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are
not fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not
spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the
genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.
Dwight D. Eisenhower 

 


~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

Re: ex2k3 for dummies

2008-06-12 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
The test message was going to the external IP and did arrive.

When I add City A as a Connected Routing Group (and the associated smart
host)
I can send email City B -> City A, but City B's email to the net stops
working.


On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Barsodi.John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  How are you routing between sites?  Over the internet or over the MPLS?
> If over the MLPS, how is that configured?  Anything filtering in between the
> servers?
>
>
>
> When you performed that telnet session, what IP were you connecting to? The
> internal or external IP?
>
>
>
> Did that test message you performed earlier end up in the mailbox?
>
>
>
> A 4.4.7 generally means there is a problem with the recipient's address.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:55 AM
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: ex2k3 for dummies
>
>
>
> Two servers, same AD domain, different TLD's to the net.
>
> The 4.4.7 happens ONLY on messages going from server to server.
>
>
>  On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Barsodi.John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> Maybe it's me, but the entire setup seems a bit confusing.
>
>
>
> Are these servers part of the same Exchange org?  Why are you using two
> different TLD's?  .net and .com for redundancy opposed to using MX records
> and cost.
>
>
>
> Where are you getting the 4.4.7 when you send inbound from the internet? Or
> between servers?  If between servers are you delivering the mail via the
> internet or the internal MPLS connection?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:19 AM
>
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: ex2k3 for dummies
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> Here is where it get's confusing.
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> The following occurs from a command prompt on the City B Exch 2k3 server...
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> TELNET mail.mycompany.com
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> 220 cordoba.mycompany.local Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version:
> 6.0.3790.3959 ready at  Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:05:49 -0600
> helo
> 250 cordoba.mycompany.local Hello [12.23.178.130]
> mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK
> rcpt to:kavalec
> 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> data
> 354 Start mail input; end with .
> the quick red fox
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> 250 2.6.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued
> mail for delivery
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> And - of course - I get the email in City A
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> The above works manually, so what - in City B's Ex2k3 server (on the above
> machine) - is causing the 4.4.7 ?
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>  On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:20 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> I do halff-suspect it's a DNS issue (all one domain and all) but I'm not
> sure of how to go from here.
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> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:40 AM, ROBERT WILCOX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> Have a look at the link I included..  the 4.4.7 is coming from the
> receiving server at the destination domain, because it's having problems
> looking up the MX record..  (I think).
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> Thanks
> Rob
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> - Original Message 
> From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
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> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 3:34:34 PM
> Subject: Re: ex2k3 for dummies
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> Each server has it's own SMTP connector.
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> Part of the idea is redundancy, if City A is under a hurricane, B keeps on
> ticking.
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> MyCompany.com DNS points to A, MyCompany.net DNS points to B
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> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:56 AM, ROBERT WILCOX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> Do you have one SMTP connector setup, and it sits on the server in CityB?
> Does it have both servers listed as bridgeheads?  Try having just CityB
> listed.  This means that when ServerA sends a mail it will travel to
> ServerB, and ServerB will send it on.
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> Info on 4.4.7 ->
> http://www.123together.com/Support/error_447_non_delivery_message.htm
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> Thanks
> Rob
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>
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> - Original Message 
> From: G.Waleed Kavalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 2:44:27 PM
> Subject: ex2k3 for dummies
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> I have a Ex2k3 server in city A and city B, connected by MPLS (VPN).
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> They see each other just fine, I can move mailboxes, etc.
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> City B can send to the internet just fine, but an email to a City A mailbox
> gets a 4.4.7.
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> Where do I start?
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> --
> Gregory Waleed Kavalec
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> Ev