RE: performance issues
Members of the list... Why would releasing and renewing IP addresses correct the slow calendar response described previously? Ideas? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Perf Optimizer question -- Should I count DLs and Custom Recipients as mailboxes when answering the number of users/mailboxes on a server? mailboxes 401, 239 DLs, 120 custom recipients. I ran perf opt set to 500 or fewer mailboxes. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Correction. after a little more intensive testing... he says its fine now that its on the old server. Oh well... back to the drawing board. Just to recap there are now 370 users on a dl 380 - its a 733 Pentium III with 500 megs of ram. NT4.0 SP6a Exchange 5.5 sp4. Half of them have been moved over from another server on to this one. Blown away Outlook profiles and recreated them. Done everything but take the old server out of the site as I may move them back to that server when I get it repaired. Ran Perf Opt with no effect. 30% to MAXed out on the Store CPU usage. This is a 100mb switched network. Users experience an Outlook not responding in the task manger when they send or receive meeting requests or are working in Calendar. Email functionality seems to be fine. Any more ideas folks? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Perfmon using the standard Exchange CPU monitor stuff from another machine not the server itself. Ya know the one that lists total cpu usage, and then cpu usage for each process ie Store and so on. I am on the path of its a corrupt calendar appointment because one of the people having this issue is my boss and I just moved his account back to the old server and he is still having this issue. There is no load on that server at all. Bob F. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Where are you pulling that from? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Good Morning! I ran performance optimizer last night and no change in performance. I do however have more information regarding whats happening. The Outlook not responding is occurring when in Calendar accepting and declining meetings. There is not a lot of slow down when doing regular email. Currently the average CPU usage on the store is running at 30% to 45% with a max of 148%?? Anyone seen this before? Bob F. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Martin, :) I heard ya... just can't do it during business hours :(. Slow performance is better then the screaming that will occur if I down it during business hours. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Performance Optimizer!! -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues John, Thanks for the info. 2 different users with same symptoms have had their outlook profiles nuked and rebuilt with no improvement. I have not disabled the other server yet as I am still moving public folders off of it. No one had complained until I moved the last 30 or so users from the other server on to this one over the weekend. I didn't want to remove the server from the site if I could get it repaired and move folks back on to it. As to disk space c: 4 gb with 1 gb free (os) d: 4 gb with 3 gb free (logs) f: 76 gb with 52.8 free (store) Oh and one last thing... scan mail 3.51 w/ emanager 3.11 Bob F. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter
RE: performance issues
Good Morning! I ran performance optimizer last night and no change in performance. I do however have more information regarding whats happening. The Outlook not responding is occurring when in Calendar accepting and declining meetings. There is not a lot of slow down when doing regular email. Currently the average CPU usage on the store is running at 30% to 45% with a max of 148%?? Anyone seen this before? Bob F. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Martin, :) I heard ya... just can't do it during business hours :(. Slow performance is better then the screaming that will occur if I down it during business hours. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Performance Optimizer!! -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues John, Thanks for the info. 2 different users with same symptoms have had their outlook profiles nuked and rebuilt with no improvement. I have not disabled the other server yet as I am still moving public folders off of it. No one had complained until I moved the last 30 or so users from the other server on to this one over the weekend. I didn't want to remove the server from the site if I could get it repaired and move folks back on to it. As to disk space c: 4 gb with 1 gb free (os) d: 4 gb with 3 gb free (logs) f: 76 gb with 52.8 free (store) Oh and one last thing... scan mail 3.51 w/ emanager 3.11 Bob F. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Is your DNS and WINS services running properly? Are Exchange services running on the old server still (they shouldn't be). Have these users that complain about Outlook hanging had their workstation profiles (MAIL profiles, not workstation profile) nuked and rebuilt from scratch? Usually a hung Outlook client can be traced back to DNS/WINS that is misconfigured or just plain broke. Since you just changed users to a new server, the client may be attempting to connect to the old server, and having to wait until things time out before realizing that the mailbox is on a different server. If the old exchange server is not to be used anymore, you may want to remove it from the WINS/DNS database. And BTW, your box sounds like it has plenty of horsepower to support 370 users. Just make sure that you have enough disk space on all the drives, especially the log drive. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it would be tempting but I would have to decline, for life would no longer teach me anything. --Allyson Jones -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: performance issues Hello folks, Have a hardware issue that has required me to consolidate users from 2 servers on to 1 server. Users are complaining about Outlook just hanging. This is an Exchange 5.5 sp4 site running on NT 4.0 sp6 servers. The hardware itself is a Compaq DL 380 Dual Pentium III - 733 with 500 mb of ram. There is plenty of disk space on the all 3 partitions. The server went from having about a 190 users on it to having 370 users. I thought that there would be more then enough CPU and Memory on this box to accommodate the additional users so that I could trouble shoot the other box but it doesn't appear so. Does this box sound like it should be able to accommodate this many users? Does it need more memory? Performance monitor shows much higher CPU usage for the STORE which is to be expected with increase in users but its not pegged all the time. Opinions? Bob F. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: performance issues
Where are you pulling that from? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Good Morning! I ran performance optimizer last night and no change in performance. I do however have more information regarding whats happening. The Outlook not responding is occurring when in Calendar accepting and declining meetings. There is not a lot of slow down when doing regular email. Currently the average CPU usage on the store is running at 30% to 45% with a max of 148%?? Anyone seen this before? Bob F. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Martin, :) I heard ya... just can't do it during business hours :(. Slow performance is better then the screaming that will occur if I down it during business hours. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Performance Optimizer!! -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues John, Thanks for the info. 2 different users with same symptoms have had their outlook profiles nuked and rebuilt with no improvement. I have not disabled the other server yet as I am still moving public folders off of it. No one had complained until I moved the last 30 or so users from the other server on to this one over the weekend. I didn't want to remove the server from the site if I could get it repaired and move folks back on to it. As to disk space c: 4 gb with 1 gb free (os) d: 4 gb with 3 gb free (logs) f: 76 gb with 52.8 free (store) Oh and one last thing... scan mail 3.51 w/ emanager 3.11 Bob F. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: performance issues
Perfmon using the standard Exchange CPU monitor stuff from another machine not the server itself. Ya know the one that lists total cpu usage, and then cpu usage for each process ie Store and so on. I am on the path of its a corrupt calendar appointment because one of the people having this issue is my boss and I just moved his account back to the old server and he is still having this issue. There is no load on that server at all. Bob F. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Where are you pulling that from? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Good Morning! I ran performance optimizer last night and no change in performance. I do however have more information regarding whats happening. The Outlook not responding is occurring when in Calendar accepting and declining meetings. There is not a lot of slow down when doing regular email. Currently the average CPU usage on the store is running at 30% to 45% with a max of 148%?? Anyone seen this before? Bob F. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Martin, :) I heard ya... just can't do it during business hours :(. Slow performance is better then the screaming that will occur if I down it during business hours. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Performance Optimizer!! -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues John, Thanks for the info. 2 different users with same symptoms have had their outlook profiles nuked and rebuilt with no improvement. I have not disabled the other server yet as I am still moving public folders off of it. No one had complained until I moved the last 30 or so users from the other server on to this one over the weekend. I didn't want to remove the server from the site if I could get it repaired and move folks back on to it. As to disk space c: 4 gb with 1 gb free (os) d: 4 gb with 3 gb free (logs) f: 76 gb with 52.8 free (store) Oh and one last thing... scan mail 3.51 w/ emanager 3.11 Bob F. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: performance issues
Correction. after a little more intensive testing... he says its fine now that its on the old server. Oh well... back to the drawing board. Just to recap there are now 370 users on a dl 380 - its a 733 Pentium III with 500 megs of ram. NT4.0 SP6a Exchange 5.5 sp4. Half of them have been moved over from another server on to this one. Blown away Outlook profiles and recreated them. Done everything but take the old server out of the site as I may move them back to that server when I get it repaired. Ran Perf Opt with no effect. 30% to MAXed out on the Store CPU usage. This is a 100mb switched network. Users experience an Outlook not responding in the task manger when they send or receive meeting requests or are working in Calendar. Email functionality seems to be fine. Any more ideas folks? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Perfmon using the standard Exchange CPU monitor stuff from another machine not the server itself. Ya know the one that lists total cpu usage, and then cpu usage for each process ie Store and so on. I am on the path of its a corrupt calendar appointment because one of the people having this issue is my boss and I just moved his account back to the old server and he is still having this issue. There is no load on that server at all. Bob F. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Where are you pulling that from? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Good Morning! I ran performance optimizer last night and no change in performance. I do however have more information regarding whats happening. The Outlook not responding is occurring when in Calendar accepting and declining meetings. There is not a lot of slow down when doing regular email. Currently the average CPU usage on the store is running at 30% to 45% with a max of 148%?? Anyone seen this before? Bob F. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Martin, :) I heard ya... just can't do it during business hours :(. Slow performance is better then the screaming that will occur if I down it during business hours. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Performance Optimizer!! -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues John, Thanks for the info. 2 different users with same symptoms have had their outlook profiles nuked and rebuilt with no improvement. I have not disabled the other server yet as I am still moving public folders off of it. No one had complained until I moved the last 30 or so users from the other server on to this one over the weekend. I didn't want to remove the server from the site if I could get it repaired and move folks back on to it. As to disk space c: 4 gb with 1 gb free (os) d: 4 gb with 3 gb free (logs) f: 76 gb with 52.8 free (store) Oh and one last thing... scan mail 3.51 w/ emanager 3.11 Bob F. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: performance issues
Perf Optimizer question -- Should I count DLs and Custom Recipients as mailboxes when answering the number of users/mailboxes on a server? mailboxes 401, 239 DLs, 120 custom recipients. I ran perf opt set to 500 or fewer mailboxes. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Correction. after a little more intensive testing... he says its fine now that its on the old server. Oh well... back to the drawing board. Just to recap there are now 370 users on a dl 380 - its a 733 Pentium III with 500 megs of ram. NT4.0 SP6a Exchange 5.5 sp4. Half of them have been moved over from another server on to this one. Blown away Outlook profiles and recreated them. Done everything but take the old server out of the site as I may move them back to that server when I get it repaired. Ran Perf Opt with no effect. 30% to MAXed out on the Store CPU usage. This is a 100mb switched network. Users experience an Outlook not responding in the task manger when they send or receive meeting requests or are working in Calendar. Email functionality seems to be fine. Any more ideas folks? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Perfmon using the standard Exchange CPU monitor stuff from another machine not the server itself. Ya know the one that lists total cpu usage, and then cpu usage for each process ie Store and so on. I am on the path of its a corrupt calendar appointment because one of the people having this issue is my boss and I just moved his account back to the old server and he is still having this issue. There is no load on that server at all. Bob F. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Where are you pulling that from? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Good Morning! I ran performance optimizer last night and no change in performance. I do however have more information regarding whats happening. The Outlook not responding is occurring when in Calendar accepting and declining meetings. There is not a lot of slow down when doing regular email. Currently the average CPU usage on the store is running at 30% to 45% with a max of 148%?? Anyone seen this before? Bob F. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Martin, :) I heard ya... just can't do it during business hours :(. Slow performance is better then the screaming that will occur if I down it during business hours. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Performance Optimizer!! -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues John, Thanks for the info. 2 different users with same symptoms have had their outlook profiles nuked and rebuilt with no improvement. I have not disabled the other server yet as I am still moving public folders off of it. No one had complained until I moved the last 30 or so users from the other server on to this one over the weekend. I didn't want to remove the server from the site if I could get it repaired and move folks back on to it. As to disk space c: 4 gb with 1 gb free (os) d: 4 gb with 3 gb free (logs) f: 76 gb with 52.8 free (store) Oh and one last thing... scan mail 3.51 w/ emanager 3.11 Bob F. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: performance issues
DL's and CR's are not mailboxes. :o) -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Perf Optimizer question -- Should I count DLs and Custom Recipients as mailboxes when answering the number of users/mailboxes on a server? mailboxes 401, 239 DLs, 120 custom recipients. I ran perf opt set to 500 or fewer mailboxes. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Correction. after a little more intensive testing... he says its fine now that its on the old server. Oh well... back to the drawing board. Just to recap there are now 370 users on a dl 380 - its a 733 Pentium III with 500 megs of ram. NT4.0 SP6a Exchange 5.5 sp4. Half of them have been moved over from another server on to this one. Blown away Outlook profiles and recreated them. Done everything but take the old server out of the site as I may move them back to that server when I get it repaired. Ran Perf Opt with no effect. 30% to MAXed out on the Store CPU usage. This is a 100mb switched network. Users experience an Outlook not responding in the task manger when they send or receive meeting requests or are working in Calendar. Email functionality seems to be fine. Any more ideas folks? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Perfmon using the standard Exchange CPU monitor stuff from another machine not the server itself. Ya know the one that lists total cpu usage, and then cpu usage for each process ie Store and so on. I am on the path of its a corrupt calendar appointment because one of the people having this issue is my boss and I just moved his account back to the old server and he is still having this issue. There is no load on that server at all. Bob F. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Where are you pulling that from? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Good Morning! I ran performance optimizer last night and no change in performance. I do however have more information regarding whats happening. The Outlook not responding is occurring when in Calendar accepting and declining meetings. There is not a lot of slow down when doing regular email. Currently the average CPU usage on the store is running at 30% to 45% with a max of 148%?? Anyone seen this before? Bob F. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Martin, :) I heard ya... just can't do it during business hours :(. Slow performance is better then the screaming that will occur if I down it during business hours. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Performance Optimizer!! -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues John, Thanks for the info. 2 different users with same symptoms have had their outlook profiles nuked and rebuilt with no improvement. I have not disabled the other server yet as I am still moving public folders off of it. No one had complained until I moved the last 30 or so users from the other server on to this one over the weekend. I didn't want to remove the server from the site if I could get it repaired and move folks back on to it. As to disk space c: 4 gb with 1 gb free (os) d: 4 gb with 3 gb free (logs) f: 76 gb with 52.8 free (store) Oh and one last thing... scan mail 3.51 w/ emanager 3.11 Bob F. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: performance issues
Just covering all the bases... and trying to get the boss off my back. other server is returning lovely 1785 post errors now. :) at least everyone is off it. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues DL's and CR's are not mailboxes. :o) -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Perf Optimizer question -- Should I count DLs and Custom Recipients as mailboxes when answering the number of users/mailboxes on a server? mailboxes 401, 239 DLs, 120 custom recipients. I ran perf opt set to 500 or fewer mailboxes. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Correction. after a little more intensive testing... he says its fine now that its on the old server. Oh well... back to the drawing board. Just to recap there are now 370 users on a dl 380 - its a 733 Pentium III with 500 megs of ram. NT4.0 SP6a Exchange 5.5 sp4. Half of them have been moved over from another server on to this one. Blown away Outlook profiles and recreated them. Done everything but take the old server out of the site as I may move them back to that server when I get it repaired. Ran Perf Opt with no effect. 30% to MAXed out on the Store CPU usage. This is a 100mb switched network. Users experience an Outlook not responding in the task manger when they send or receive meeting requests or are working in Calendar. Email functionality seems to be fine. Any more ideas folks? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Perfmon using the standard Exchange CPU monitor stuff from another machine not the server itself. Ya know the one that lists total cpu usage, and then cpu usage for each process ie Store and so on. I am on the path of its a corrupt calendar appointment because one of the people having this issue is my boss and I just moved his account back to the old server and he is still having this issue. There is no load on that server at all. Bob F. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Where are you pulling that from? -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Good Morning! I ran performance optimizer last night and no change in performance. I do however have more information regarding whats happening. The Outlook not responding is occurring when in Calendar accepting and declining meetings. There is not a lot of slow down when doing regular email. Currently the average CPU usage on the store is running at 30% to 45% with a max of 148%?? Anyone seen this before? Bob F. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Martin, :) I heard ya... just can't do it during business hours :(. Slow performance is better then the screaming that will occur if I down it during business hours. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Performance Optimizer!! -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues John, Thanks for the info. 2 different users with same symptoms have had their outlook profiles nuked and rebuilt with no improvement. I have not disabled the other server yet as I am still moving public folders off of it. No one had complained until I moved the last 30 or so users from the other server on to this one over the weekend. I didn't want to remove the server from the site if I could get it repaired and move folks back on to it. As to disk space c: 4 gb with 1 gb free (os) d: 4 gb with 3 gb free (logs) f: 76 gb with 52.8 free (store) Oh and one last thing... scan mail 3.51 w/ emanager 3.11 Bob F. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ
RE: performance issues
Title: RE: performance issues I would suggest you max out the ram on the machine. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT Manager Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: performance issues Hello folks, Have a hardware issue that has required me to consolidate users from 2 servers on to 1 server. Users are complaining about Outlook just hanging. This is an Exchange 5.5 sp4 site running on NT 4.0 sp6 servers. The hardware itself is a Compaq DL 380 Dual Pentium III - 733 with 500 mb of ram. There is plenty of disk space on the all 3 partitions. The server went from having about a 190 users on it to having 370 users. I thought that there would be more then enough CPU and Memory on this box to accommodate the additional users so that I could trouble shoot the other box but it doesn't appear so. Does this box sound like it should be able to accommodate this many users? Does it need more memory? Performance monitor shows much higher CPU usage for the STORE which is to be expected with increase in users but its not pegged all the time. Opinions? Bob F. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: performance issues
Run Exch Optimizer. You substantially upped the load. Optimization may help. -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: performance issues Hello folks, Have a hardware issue that has required me to consolidate users from 2 servers on to 1 server. Users are complaining about Outlook just hanging. This is an Exchange 5.5 sp4 site running on NT 4.0 sp6 servers. The hardware itself is a Compaq DL 380 Dual Pentium III - 733 with 500 mb of ram. There is plenty of disk space on the all 3 partitions. The server went from having about a 190 users on it to having 370 users. I thought that there would be more then enough CPU and Memory on this box to accommodate the additional users so that I could trouble shoot the other box but it doesn't appear so. Does this box sound like it should be able to accommodate this many users? Does it need more memory? Performance monitor shows much higher CPU usage for the STORE which is to be expected with increase in users but its not pegged all the time. Opinions? Bob F. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: performance issues
Is your DNS and WINS services running properly? Are Exchange services running on the old server still (they shouldn't be). Have these users that complain about Outlook hanging had their workstation profiles (MAIL profiles, not workstation profile) nuked and rebuilt from scratch? Usually a hung Outlook client can be traced back to DNS/WINS that is misconfigured or just plain broke. Since you just changed users to a new server, the client may be attempting to connect to the old server, and having to wait until things time out before realizing that the mailbox is on a different server. If the old exchange server is not to be used anymore, you may want to remove it from the WINS/DNS database. And BTW, your box sounds like it has plenty of horsepower to support 370 users. Just make sure that you have enough disk space on all the drives, especially the log drive. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it would be tempting but I would have to decline, for life would no longer teach me anything. --Allyson Jones -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: performance issues Hello folks, Have a hardware issue that has required me to consolidate users from 2 servers on to 1 server. Users are complaining about Outlook just hanging. This is an Exchange 5.5 sp4 site running on NT 4.0 sp6 servers. The hardware itself is a Compaq DL 380 Dual Pentium III - 733 with 500 mb of ram. There is plenty of disk space on the all 3 partitions. The server went from having about a 190 users on it to having 370 users. I thought that there would be more then enough CPU and Memory on this box to accommodate the additional users so that I could trouble shoot the other box but it doesn't appear so. Does this box sound like it should be able to accommodate this many users? Does it need more memory? Performance monitor shows much higher CPU usage for the STORE which is to be expected with increase in users but its not pegged all the time. Opinions? Bob F. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: performance issues
John, Thanks for the info. 2 different users with same symptoms have had their outlook profiles nuked and rebuilt with no improvement. I have not disabled the other server yet as I am still moving public folders off of it. No one had complained until I moved the last 30 or so users from the other server on to this one over the weekend. I didn't want to remove the server from the site if I could get it repaired and move folks back on to it. As to disk space c: 4 gb with 1 gb free (os) d: 4 gb with 3 gb free (logs) f: 76 gb with 52.8 free (store) Oh and one last thing... scan mail 3.51 w/ emanager 3.11 Bob F. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Is your DNS and WINS services running properly? Are Exchange services running on the old server still (they shouldn't be). Have these users that complain about Outlook hanging had their workstation profiles (MAIL profiles, not workstation profile) nuked and rebuilt from scratch? Usually a hung Outlook client can be traced back to DNS/WINS that is misconfigured or just plain broke. Since you just changed users to a new server, the client may be attempting to connect to the old server, and having to wait until things time out before realizing that the mailbox is on a different server. If the old exchange server is not to be used anymore, you may want to remove it from the WINS/DNS database. And BTW, your box sounds like it has plenty of horsepower to support 370 users. Just make sure that you have enough disk space on all the drives, especially the log drive. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it would be tempting but I would have to decline, for life would no longer teach me anything. --Allyson Jones -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: performance issues Hello folks, Have a hardware issue that has required me to consolidate users from 2 servers on to 1 server. Users are complaining about Outlook just hanging. This is an Exchange 5.5 sp4 site running on NT 4.0 sp6 servers. The hardware itself is a Compaq DL 380 Dual Pentium III - 733 with 500 mb of ram. There is plenty of disk space on the all 3 partitions. The server went from having about a 190 users on it to having 370 users. I thought that there would be more then enough CPU and Memory on this box to accommodate the additional users so that I could trouble shoot the other box but it doesn't appear so. Does this box sound like it should be able to accommodate this many users? Does it need more memory? Performance monitor shows much higher CPU usage for the STORE which is to be expected with increase in users but its not pegged all the time. Opinions? Bob F. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: performance issues
Performance Optimizer!! -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues John, Thanks for the info. 2 different users with same symptoms have had their outlook profiles nuked and rebuilt with no improvement. I have not disabled the other server yet as I am still moving public folders off of it. No one had complained until I moved the last 30 or so users from the other server on to this one over the weekend. I didn't want to remove the server from the site if I could get it repaired and move folks back on to it. As to disk space c: 4 gb with 1 gb free (os) d: 4 gb with 3 gb free (logs) f: 76 gb with 52.8 free (store) Oh and one last thing... scan mail 3.51 w/ emanager 3.11 Bob F. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Is your DNS and WINS services running properly? Are Exchange services running on the old server still (they shouldn't be). Have these users that complain about Outlook hanging had their workstation profiles (MAIL profiles, not workstation profile) nuked and rebuilt from scratch? Usually a hung Outlook client can be traced back to DNS/WINS that is misconfigured or just plain broke. Since you just changed users to a new server, the client may be attempting to connect to the old server, and having to wait until things time out before realizing that the mailbox is on a different server. If the old exchange server is not to be used anymore, you may want to remove it from the WINS/DNS database. And BTW, your box sounds like it has plenty of horsepower to support 370 users. Just make sure that you have enough disk space on all the drives, especially the log drive. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it would be tempting but I would have to decline, for life would no longer teach me anything. --Allyson Jones -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: performance issues Hello folks, Have a hardware issue that has required me to consolidate users from 2 servers on to 1 server. Users are complaining about Outlook just hanging. This is an Exchange 5.5 sp4 site running on NT 4.0 sp6 servers. The hardware itself is a Compaq DL 380 Dual Pentium III - 733 with 500 mb of ram. There is plenty of disk space on the all 3 partitions. The server went from having about a 190 users on it to having 370 users. I thought that there would be more then enough CPU and Memory on this box to accommodate the additional users so that I could trouble shoot the other box but it doesn't appear so. Does this box sound like it should be able to accommodate this many users? Does it need more memory? Performance monitor shows much higher CPU usage for the STORE which is to be expected with increase in users but its not pegged all the time. Opinions? Bob F. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: performance issues
Title: Message 500 megs ? What kind of chip is that -Original Message-From: Zangara, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 16:28To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: performance issues I would suggest you max out the ram on the machine. Jim Zangara, MCSE+I IT Manager Special Projects Engineer Premiere Radio Networks A Division of Clear Channel Communications 15260 Ventura Blvd Suite 500 Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Direct: (818) 461-8620 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: performance issues Hello folks, Have a hardware issue that has required me to consolidate users from 2 servers on to 1 server. Users are complaining about Outlook just hanging. This is an Exchange 5.5 sp4 site running on NT 4.0 sp6 servers. The hardware itself is a Compaq DL 380 Dual Pentium III - 733 with 500 mb of ram. There is plenty of disk space on the all 3 partitions. The server went from having about a 190 users on it to having 370 users. I thought that there would be more then enough CPU and Memory on this box to accommodate the additional users so that I could trouble shoot the other box but it doesn't appear so. Does this box sound like it should be able to accommodate this many users? Does it need more memory? Performance monitor shows much higher CPU usage for the STORE which is to be expected with increase in users but its not pegged all the time. Opinions? Bob F. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: performance issues
Martin, :) I heard ya... just can't do it during business hours :(. Slow performance is better then the screaming that will occur if I down it during business hours. Bob F. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Performance Optimizer!! -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues John, Thanks for the info. 2 different users with same symptoms have had their outlook profiles nuked and rebuilt with no improvement. I have not disabled the other server yet as I am still moving public folders off of it. No one had complained until I moved the last 30 or so users from the other server on to this one over the weekend. I didn't want to remove the server from the site if I could get it repaired and move folks back on to it. As to disk space c: 4 gb with 1 gb free (os) d: 4 gb with 3 gb free (logs) f: 76 gb with 52.8 free (store) Oh and one last thing... scan mail 3.51 w/ emanager 3.11 Bob F. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: performance issues Is your DNS and WINS services running properly? Are Exchange services running on the old server still (they shouldn't be). Have these users that complain about Outlook hanging had their workstation profiles (MAIL profiles, not workstation profile) nuked and rebuilt from scratch? Usually a hung Outlook client can be traced back to DNS/WINS that is misconfigured or just plain broke. Since you just changed users to a new server, the client may be attempting to connect to the old server, and having to wait until things time out before realizing that the mailbox is on a different server. If the old exchange server is not to be used anymore, you may want to remove it from the WINS/DNS database. And BTW, your box sounds like it has plenty of horsepower to support 370 users. Just make sure that you have enough disk space on all the drives, especially the log drive. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it would be tempting but I would have to decline, for life would no longer teach me anything. --Allyson Jones -Original Message- From: Bob Falkenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: performance issues Hello folks, Have a hardware issue that has required me to consolidate users from 2 servers on to 1 server. Users are complaining about Outlook just hanging. This is an Exchange 5.5 sp4 site running on NT 4.0 sp6 servers. The hardware itself is a Compaq DL 380 Dual Pentium III - 733 with 500 mb of ram. There is plenty of disk space on the all 3 partitions. The server went from having about a 190 users on it to having 370 users. I thought that there would be more then enough CPU and Memory on this box to accommodate the additional users so that I could trouble shoot the other box but it doesn't appear so. Does this box sound like it should be able to accommodate this many users? Does it need more memory? Performance monitor shows much higher CPU usage for the STORE which is to be expected with increase in users but its not pegged all the time. Opinions? Bob F. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
