RE: Antigen
Still using it here (9.1.1097). No issues I'm happy to say! *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 14:17 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Anyone still use Antigen? I am debating not renewing this service as we have several layers of AV. Since MS bought this product it has been more of a headache than anything. Is it still a common tool to use on Exchange? EX03 This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Antigen
Antigen users will feel very comfy with our VIPRE for Exchange (formerly Ninja) http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Email-Security/Exchange/ And this list will get a substantial discount. Tell 'em Stu sent' ya. ;-) Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Founder, VP Marketing. P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com -Original Message- From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Anyone still use Antigen? I am debating not renewing this service as we have several layers of AV. Since MS bought this product it has been more of a headache than anything. Is it still a common tool to use on Exchange? EX03 ..
Re: Antigen
Free endorsement for Ninja. Love it. Installed it a couple of months ago and I no longer have executives calling me about the spam that got to their inbox. I've done no tweaking or adjusting on it at all, haven't had the time, and apparently there is not a real need for it either, it just works. Prolly will upgrade to the Vipre version when I migrate the Exchange 2003 server to 2007. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.comwrote: Antigen users will feel very comfy with our VIPRE for Exchange (formerly Ninja) http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Email-Security/Exchange/ And this list will get a substantial discount. Tell 'em Stu sent' ya. ;-) Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Founder, VP Marketing. P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com -Original Message- From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Anyone still use Antigen? I am debating not renewing this service as we have several layers of AV. Since MS bought this product it has been more of a headache than anything. Is it still a common tool to use on Exchange? EX03 .. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke
Re: Antigen
We use to use Antigen but after we switched over to Postini for anti-SPAM/AV, i can't say i've experienced any real issues with Viruses via e-mail. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:16 PM, mqcarp mqcarpen...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone still use Antigen? I am debating not renewing this service as we have several layers of AV. Since MS bought this product it has been more of a headache than anything. Is it still a common tool to use on Exchange? EX03
Re: Antigen
Since we moved our SPAM to a Barracuda, we also have seen no issues with viruses on the mail side. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.com wrote: We use to use Antigen but after we switched over to Postini for anti-SPAM/AV, i can't say i've experienced any real issues with Viruses via e-mail. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:16 PM, mqcarp mqcarpen...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone still use Antigen? I am debating not renewing this service as we have several layers of AV. Since MS bought this product it has been more of a headache than anything. Is it still a common tool to use on Exchange? EX03
Re: Antigen
We upgraded from Antigen everywhere to Forefront on the hub transports only. We use ProofPoinit for spam/av at the perimeter. We've had no issues with either. Forefront config is pretty straight forward, we have four scanners enabled with neutral scanning (I believe that means each message is scanned by two scanners). Configuration and updates are handled centrally by the ForeFront management console. -alex On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:16 AM, mqcarp mqcarpen...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone still use Antigen? I am debating not renewing this service as we have several layers of AV. Since MS bought this product it has been more of a headache than anything. Is it still a common tool to use on Exchange? EX03
RE: Antigen
We moved to Message Labs and are not looking back. Thank You ~Doug Rooney Sonoma Tilemakers IT Manager 7750 Bell Rd. Windsor Ca, 95492 (707) 837-8177 X211 (707) 837-9472 FAX i...@sonomatilemakers.com -Original Message- From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Anyone still use Antigen? I am debating not renewing this service as we have several layers of AV. Since MS bought this product it has been more of a headache than anything. Is it still a common tool to use on Exchange? EX03
Re: Antigen for Microsoft Exchange
Mine points to http://antigendll.microsoft.com/antigen not antigendLL -- Original message -- From: Kelli Sterley [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to be having issues connecting to the default path (http://antigendll.microsoft.com/antigen) to get definition updates for my Antigen on Exchange. Has anyone else had problems updating? If not, do you have a primary network update path and a secondary or is yours different? Any help would be great, Ive goggled it for the past couple of days without much luck. Kelli Sterley ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Antigen for Microsoft Exchange
Sorry, mine points to http://antigendl.microsoft.com/antigen not antigendLL. -- Original message -- From: Kelli Sterley [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to be having issues connecting to the default path (http://antigendll.microsoft.com/antigen) to get definition updates for my Antigen on Exchange. Has anyone else had problems updating? If not, do you have a primary network update path and a secondary or is yours different? Any help would be great, Ive goggled it for the past couple of days without much luck. Kelli Sterley ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Antigen for Microsoft Exchange
Sorry - mistype. That is where mine points as well. I've also been checking in the Event Viewer, there is no errors that I can find. I have noticed that when I click the update button to manually update the definitions, some don't even look like they are going out and checking. From what I can see on my firewall, there is nothing blocking it from the internet. Here is the scanner info. Is there a place we can go to see what versions are the latest and greatest? Norman Data Defense: Engine Version: 5.93.0 Signature Version: 5.93.0 Update Version: 0807090001 Last Checked: 08/20/2008 13:08:16 Last Updated: 07/09/2008 20:01:17 Microsoft AV: Engine Version: 0.1.14.223 Signature Version: 72.165.49.198 Update Version: 0808150001 Last Checked: 08/20/2008 13:09:18 Last Updated: 08/15/2008 14:47:25 Sophos AntiVirus: Engine Version: 2.75.0 Signature Version: 4.31.0 Update Version: 0808050004 Last Checked: 08/20/2008 13:12:05 Last Updated: 08/05/2008 20:12:20 CA Vet: Engine Version: 31.6.01 Signature Version: 31.6.23.147 Update Version: 0808150002 Last Checked: 08/20/2008 13:15:15 Last Updated: 08/16/2008 07:00:35 Antigen Work List: Engine Version: 9.1.4.3 Signature Version: 48.10.227.161 Update Version: 0806020001 Last Checked: 08/20/2008 13:16:35 Last Updated: 06/03/2008 07:36:05 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Antigen for Microsoft Exchange Sorry, mine points to http://antigendl.microsoft.com/antigen not antigendLL. -- Original message -- From: Kelli Sterley [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to be having issues connecting to the default path (http://antigendll.microsoft.com/antigen) to get definition updates for my Antigen on Exchange. Has anyone else had problems updating? If not, do you have a primary network update path and a secondary or is yours different? Any help would be great, I've goggled it for the past couple of days without much luck. Kelli Sterley ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Antigen for Microsoft Exchange
I can't answer you question but it might be worthwhile to open an email support case wiht MS at this point. -- Original message -- From: Kelli Sterley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry mistype. That is where mine points as well. Ive also been checking in the Event Viewer, there is no errors that I can find. I have noticed that when I click the update button to manually update the definitions, some dont even look like they are going out and checking. From what I can see on my firewall, there is nothing blocking it from the internet. Here is the scanner info. Is there a place we can go to see what versions are the latest and greatest? Norman Data Defense: Engine Version: 5.93.0 Signature Version: 5.93.0 Update Version: 0807090001 Last Checked: 08/20/2008 13:08:16 Last Updated: 07/09/2008 20:01:17 Microsoft AV: Engine Version: 0.1.14.223 Signature Version: 72.165.49.198 Update Version: 0808150001 Last Checked: 08/20/2008 13:09:18 Last Updated: 08/15/2008 14:47:25 Sophos AntiVirus: Engine Version: 2.75.0 Signature Version: 4.31.0 Update Version: 0808050004 Last Checked: 08/20/2008 13:12:05 Last Updated: 08/05/2008 20:12:20 CA Vet: Engine Version: 31.6.01 Signature Version: 31.6.23.147 Update Version: 0808150002 Last Checked: 08/20/2008 13:15:15 Last Updated: 08/16/2008 07:00:35 Antigen Work List: Engine Version: 9.1.4.3 Signature Version: 48.10.227.161 Update Version: 0806020001 Last Checked: 08/20/2008 13:16:35 Last Updated: 06/03/2008 07:36:05 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Antigen for Microsoft Exchange Sorry, mine points to http://antigendl.microsoft.com/antigen not antigendLL. -- Original message -- From: Kelli Sterley [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to be having issues connecting to the default path (http://antigendll.microsoft.com/antigen) to get definition updates for my Antigen on Exchange. Has anyone else had problems updating? If not, do you have a primary network update path and a secondary or is yours different? Any help would be great, Ive goggled it for the past couple of days without much luck. Kelli Sterley ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Antigen
www.sybari.com They provide wonderful tech support and after you install the evaluation copy, an engineer will walk you through the installation. However, it is not difficult. They are a wonderful company to work with. Karen Palmer * Hi all, Where can I find Antigen and how to set it up on my Exchage server? Thanks. -- Matina List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Ditto. We've had it installed here for a couple of months now. It is light years ahead of the NAV we were using on our Exchange servers. mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards), Steve Ropiak ZF Group NAO CERT, Exchange Administrator (207) 989-9115 voice (207) 989-8722 fax (513) 314-0197 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Palmer, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen www.sybari.com They provide wonderful tech support and after you install the evaluation copy, an engineer will walk you through the installation. However, it is not difficult. They are a wonderful company to work with. Karen Palmer * Hi all, Where can I find Antigen and how to set it up on my Exchage server? Thanks. -- Matina List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Antigen
http://www.sybari.com We have a wonderful presales support team if you need help. ~ -K.Borndale IT Manager Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |-+--- | | Matina Deen | | | matina.deen@delben.| | | cec.eu.int | | | | | | 04/24/2002 08:26 AM | | | Please respond to | | | MS-Exchange Admin | | | Issues | | | | |-+--- --| | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Antigen | --| Hi all, Where can I find Antigen and how to set it up on my Exchage server? Thanks. -- Matina List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter
Title: RE: Antigen filter * Student Loan Interest * -Original Message- From: Nelson Aguillon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen filter Hello everyone, How would you type a subject filter within Antigen for the following subject, Reduction in Student Loan Interest Thanks, Nelson Aguillon List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter
Title: RE: Antigen filter ewww... I thought I had banished that phrase from my memory. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 09:44 To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen filter * Student Loan Interest * -Original Message- From: Nelson Aguillon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen filter Hello everyone, How would you type a subject filter within Antigen for the following subject, Reduction in Student Loan Interest Thanks, Nelson Aguillon List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen Content Filter
Title: Message *tener* *hanji* *avi* -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:19 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Content Filter Nothing makes my day like adding entries like this: * Britney * * anna* * Free * * Fun* * * sexy * So many sad end users... So many happy admins... Has anyone come up with an official "Martin Blackstone Content Filter List" yet? Robert Micciche IT Operations Manager MCP, MCP+I, CCNA, MCSE Cooper Wiring Devices mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cooperwiringdevices.com List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen Content Filter
Title: Message Speaking ofcontent filtering, you guys remember this post from about a year ago? It has some interesting examples of the problems with filtering. LOL!!! Well, my last potty post was a success. I think I'm all done now (before I exceed the bounds of whatever good taste I have left). -ASB -Original Message-From: Scot Parsons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:36 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: What is this? I'm working very hard on this project. -Original Message-From: Baker, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:26 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: What is this? LOL!!! How long are you guys going to keep the crap up? You can be assured that someone's pisspoor content filtering system will be screwed up. -ASB -Original Message- From: William S. Kuhn [MCSE] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What is this? Butt why? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 2:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What is this? I need some ass istance with that breast recipe -Original Message- From: Burgess, Jeffrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What is this? Someone should post a chicken breast recipe... :) LOL! I've been blocked by corporate "content filters" at more than a few recipe sites because of that. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What is this? What is it? It is why I don't believe in content filtering! -Original Message- From: John Theed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 6:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What is this? This came back to me about a message I sent to the list.. Wierd. I received the message via the list, so I do not understand why this came back! At the bottom is the original message ** John Trend SMEX Content Filter has detected sensitive content. Place = NT System Admin Issues; ; ; NT System Admin Issues Sender = John Theed Subject = Win2K Connect via Dial-up Delivery Time = May 22, 2001 (Tuesday) 08:10:48 Policy = Dirty Words Action on this mail = Quarantine message Warning message from administrator: Sender: Do _NOT_ send messages with this type of content! Your message has not been delivered to the intended recipient. ___ NOTICE: The information contained in this electronic transmission is considered privileged and confidential under Florida Statutes 455.251 and 3905.017. It is intended solely for the use of the recipient named above. If the reader is not the recipient named above, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or disclosure of this transmission is prohibited. ** indows 2000 Workstation with SP1 Modem installed and working properly after logging in. I need to connect to the domain via dial-up until the frame relay is installed. When the computer is booted and you are logged in locally, you can access the modem perfectly. However, when you try to use 'Log on using dial-up connection' , I get my selection of dial up connections, the name and password screen, but it can not use the modem. I get the following: Error 692 There was a hardware failure in the modem (or other connecting device). What am I missing? http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen Content Filter
Title: Message viagra -Original Message-From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:21 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Content Filter *tener* *hanji* *avi* -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:19 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Content Filter Nothing makes my day like adding entries like this: * Britney * * anna* * Free * * Fun* * * sexy * So many sad end users... So many happy admins... Has anyone come up with an official "Martin Blackstone Content Filter List" yet? Robert Micciche IT Operations Manager MCP, MCP+I, CCNA, MCSE Cooper Wiring Devices mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cooperwiringdevices.com List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen Content Filter
Title: Message LOL -Original Message-From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:21 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Content Filter *tener* *hanji* *avi* -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:19 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Content Filter Nothing makes my day like adding entries like this: * Britney * * anna* * Free * * Fun* * * sexy * So many sad end users... So many happy admins... Has anyone come up with an official "Martin Blackstone Content Filter List" yet? Robert Micciche IT Operations Manager MCP, MCP+I, CCNA, MCSE Cooper Wiring Devices mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cooperwiringdevices.com List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen and Content Filtering
Title: Message iloveyou LOL -Original Message-From: Jim Traino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen and Content Filtering I don't think we have covered this topic yet. (= I know we have the Blackistone list of extensions to block. With the release of 6.5 Antigen now supports domain/sender blocking and subject line blocking. Does anyone have an extensive list of subject line filters they would like to share? I am in the process of developing mine. Thanks. Jim Traino, MCSE (NT4) IT Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: 703-464-9100 fax: 703-464-7377 cell: 571-214-1740 List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen and Content Filtering
Title: Message love sex* porn smut try this fun funn* britney gamble gambling joke* hilarious Every explicative I can think of Still playing with stuff, but it is knocking the HELL out of a lot of spam and jokers with to much time on their hands. I would be very interested to see what other admins have implemented. -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:55 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen and Content Filtering iloveyou LOL -Original Message-From: Jim Traino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen and Content Filtering I don't think we have covered this topic yet. (= I know we have the Blackistone list of extensions to block. With the release of 6.5 Antigen now supports domain/sender blocking and subject line blocking. Does anyone have an extensive list of subject line filters they would like to share? I am in the process of developing mine. Thanks. Jim Traino, MCSE (NT4) IT Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: 703-464-9100 fax: 703-464-7377 cell: 571-214-1740 List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: Message William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI? -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Why should that necessarily be personal? It is woefully inadequate. [1] [1] and they know it and have already fixed it -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at it. -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. SteveList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Antigen
Title: Message I installed Antigen on my MSExchange server in December and haven't given it a second thought. It updates and maintains itself quite well. - Original Message - From: Martin Blackstone To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. SteveList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: Message I love Antigen. It is the best anti-virus product we have every used. -Original Message-From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:58 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Antigen I installed Antigen on my MSExchange server in December and haven't given it a second thought. It updates and maintains itself quite well. - Original Message - From: Martin Blackstone To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. SteveList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: Message We love it here too no probs at all just install and let it get on with it!!! -Original Message- From: Karen Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 3:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen I love Antigen. It is the best anti-virus product we have every used. -Original Message- From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Antigen I installed Antigen on my MSExchange server in December and haven't given it a second thought. It updates and maintains itself quite well. - Original Message - From: Martin Blackstone To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. Steve List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: RE: Virus You really can't go wrong with either antigen or Trend. They are both good. Mark -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. Steve List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: Message Ditto here. The only minor annoyance is that it's automatic updating won't authenticate through our proxy server so we had to manually configurea place to pick up the updates. We manually drop them there and all our servers pick them up. Otherwise, excellent product. Steve -Original Message-From: Gary Gregg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:00 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen We love it here too no probs at all just install and let it get on with it!!! -Original Message-From: Karen Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 3:00 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen I love Antigen. It is the best anti-virus product we have every used. -Original Message-From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:58 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Antigen I installed Antigen on my MSExchange server in December and haven't given it a second thought. It updates and maintains itself quite well. - Original Message - From: Martin Blackstone To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. Steve List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Antigen has multiple engines. Which is a nice feature. However, we are strictly an Exchange/Notes product. ~ -K.Borndale IT Manager Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |-+ | | Ray Zorz | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | et | | || | | 03/12/2002 03:15 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | MS-Exchange | | | Admin Issues| | || |-+ --| | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen | --| Lots of folks getting happier with Trend rather than Antigen lately. -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. Steve List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Sorry. Those are nice features. Most of the comments have been administrative rather than performance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Antigen has multiple engines. Which is a nice feature. However, we are strictly an Exchange/Notes product. ~ -K.Borndale IT Manager Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |-+ | | Ray Zorz | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | et | | || | | 03/12/2002 03:15 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | MS-Exchange | | | Admin Issues| | || |-+ --- ---| | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen | --- ---| Lots of folks getting happier with Trend rather than Antigen lately. -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. Steve List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.336 / Virus Database: 188 - Release Date: 3/11/2002 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
So sorry to hear that. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Antigen has multiple engines. Which is a nice feature. However, we are strictly an Exchange/Notes product. ~ -K.Borndale IT Manager Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |-+ | | Ray Zorz | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | et | | || | | 03/12/2002 03:15 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | MS-Exchange | | | Admin Issues| | || |-+ --- ---| | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen | --- ---| Lots of folks getting happier with Trend rather than Antigen lately. -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. Steve List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: Message That is my understanding. Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering. Contact your local sales rep. He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint presentation. -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI? -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Why should that necessarily be personal? It is woefully inadequate. [1] [1] and they know it and have already fixed it -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at it. -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. SteveList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen That is my understanding. Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering. Contact your local sales rep. He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint presentation. -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Why should that necessarily be personal? It is woefully inadequate. [1] [1] and they know it and have already fixed it -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at it. -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. Steve List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen That is my understanding. Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering. Contact your local sales rep. He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint presentation. -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Why should that necessarily be personal? It is woefully inadequate. [1] [1] and they know it and have already fixed it -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at it. -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. Steve List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Oh goodness. Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server? William -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen That is my understanding. Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering. Contact your local sales rep. He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint presentation. -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Why should that necessarily be personal? It is woefully inadequate. [1] [1] and they know it and have already fixed it -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at it. -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. Steve List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
William that's not the recommendation I was hoping to hear. You're a funny guy. I'm not running unicenter. So I take it you feel that you can't run them both concurrently and uninstalling InnocualteIT will trash the server? Say it isn't so!! -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Oh goodness. Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server? William -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen That is my understanding. Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering. Contact your local sales rep. He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint presentation. -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Why should that necessarily be personal? It is woefully inadequate. [1] [1] and they know it and have already fixed it -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at it. -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. Steve List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt
RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack
Their Brightstor product is much better than its ArcServeIT predecessor. Most of my comments and vomitting pertain to their abyssmal effort with the Exchange agents. But we don't want to bring that up again... -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2 and an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their products. Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments from Mr. Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA forum on this list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of the customers having problems As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to approach the numbers Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Oh goodness. Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server? William -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. - List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack
It's good to see that even being away from the list for a few months CA still bites. Some things will never change. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2 and an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their products. Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments from Mr. Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA forum on this list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of the customers having problems As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to approach the numbers Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Oh goodness. Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server? William -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen That is my understanding. Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering. Contact your local sales rep. He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint presentation. -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Why should that necessarily be personal? It is woefully inadequate. [1] [1] and they know it and have already fixed it -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at it. -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject
RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack
I think it's more Enterprise focussed than ArcServeIT and has greater functionality. But I absolutely detest when marketing people use terms like: BrightStor is CA's industry-leading end-to-end storage management solution. Industry-leading??? searches for vomit bag -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack Isn't brightstor that same thing new name?? What have you done with our William? --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack Their Brightstor product is much better than its ArcServeIT predecessor. Most of my comments and vomitting pertain to their abyssmal effort with the Exchange agents. But we don't want to bring that up again... -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2 and an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their products. Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments from Mr. Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA forum on this list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of the customers having problems As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to approach the numbers Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Oh goodness. Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server? William -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. - List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack
Title: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack LOL They are monitoring lists to see who hates them. Too funny. Shouldn't they be on the phone handling customer service calls? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack I think it's more Enterprise focussed than ArcServeIT and has greater functionality. But I absolutely detest when marketing people use terms like: BrightStor is CA's industry-leading end-to-end storage management solution. Industry-leading??? searches for vomit bag -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack Isn't brightstor that same thing new name?? What have you done with our William? --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack Their Brightstor product is much better than its ArcServeIT predecessor. Most of my comments and vomitting pertain to their abyssmal effort with the Exchange agents. But we don't want to bring that up again... -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2 and an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their products. Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments from Mr. Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA forum on this list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of the customers having problems As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to approach the numbers Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Oh goodness. Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server? William -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. - List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack
Title: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack I like the forum monitoring idea. Many of us represent the users of the applications and not always the decision makers. I like the notion of getting the opinions of those of us sentenced to administering CA products in an attempt to address product short-comings. Kudos to CA for making that effort. -Original Message-From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:09 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack LOL They are monitoring lists to see who hates them. Too funny. Shouldn't they be on the phone handling customer service calls? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack I think it's more Enterprise focussed than ArcServeIT and has greater functionality. But I absolutely detest when marketing people use terms like: "BrightStor is CA's industry-leading end-to-end storage management solution." Industry-leading??? searches for vomit bag -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack Isn't brightstor that same thing new name?? What have you done with our William? --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack Their Brightstor product is much better than its ArcServeIT predecessor. Most of my comments and vomitting pertain to their abyssmal effort with the Exchange agents. But we don't want to bring that up again... -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2 and an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their products. Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments from Mr. Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA forum on this list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of the customers having problems As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to approach the numbers Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member "Who's watching your network?" www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Oh goodness. Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server? William -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member "Who's watching your network?" www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. - List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack
My comments exactly. I even gave them an email address of an individual who is having problems (and contact me - like I knew how to fix it) so they could contact. No response. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 3:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack LOL They are monitoring lists to see who hates them. Too funny. Shouldn't they be on the phone handling customer service calls? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack I think it's more Enterprise focussed than ArcServeIT and has greater functionality. But I absolutely detest when marketing people use terms like: BrightStor is CA's industry-leading end-to-end storage management solution. Industry-leading??? searches for vomit bag -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack Isn't brightstor that same thing new name?? What have you done with our William? --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack Their Brightstor product is much better than its ArcServeIT predecessor. Most of my comments and vomitting pertain to their abyssmal effort with the Exchange agents. But we don't want to bring that up again... -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2 and an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their products. Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments from Mr. Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA forum on this list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of the customers having problems As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to approach the numbers Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Oh goodness. Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server? William -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. - List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com
RE: Antigen/ CA thread hijack
Damn. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 14:42 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen/ CA thread hijack FYI - CA is monitoring this list somewhat. I got a nice phone call or 2 and an even more PC email from someone asking why I didn't like their products. Apparently, they really don't like my website full of comments from Mr. Lefkovics. I indicated to them they should really offer an QA forum on this list with Stu's assistance or at least respond to some of the customers having problems As far as I know, they never went that route - I guess it's not safe to approach the numbers Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Oh goodness. Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server? William -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen That is my understanding. Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering. Contact your local sales rep. He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint presentation. -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Why should that necessarily be personal? It is woefully inadequate. [1] [1] and they know it and have already fixed it -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at it. -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed
RE: Antigen
Did that a couple of month's ago -- had a 30 day trial of antigen running then purchased it and dumped InocuCrap. It did require a reboot (exch 5.5) and had to do some manual file deletion -- did get a bump on performance though and getting rid of CA software was worth it. Dave David Erickson, IT BWBR Architects St. Paul, MN [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen No, it should be fine. Uninstalling Antigen goes much smoother. I did have some problems with InoculateIT not uninstalling cleanly. There is some manual deleting to do. Nothing too serious. I would ensure you had a good backup. And I am 98% sure a reboot is required for uninstalling InoculateIT. -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen William that's not the recommendation I was hoping to hear. You're a funny guy. I'm not running unicenter. So I take it you feel that you can't run them both concurrently and uninstalling InnocualteIT will trash the server? Say it isn't so!! -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Oh goodness. Schedule the uninstall for Friday night to give you lots of time to recover if necessary. Do you also need to de-unicenter this server? William -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen While we are on the subject, has anyone run InnocualteIT for Exchange and Antigen concurrently on an Exchange server? If not, what has been the experience of un-installing InnoculateIT? Thanks again. Steve -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Yup - they did a blurb on an email some time back. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen That is my understanding. Version 6.5 due out toward the end of March has a new GUI and a couple of new features such as rudimentary content filtering. Contact your local sales rep. He'll happily send you a 2MB Powerpoint presentation. -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen William, are you saying the latest release has an updated GUI? -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Why should that necessarily be personal? It is woefully inadequate. [1] [1] and they know it and have already fixed it -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at it. -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin
RE: Antigen
Title: RE: Virus Lots of folks getting happier with Trend rather than Antigen lately. -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. SteveList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: Message Antigen and Trend. -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:54 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. SteveList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
I have never used Trend, but can tell you that Antigen is orders of magnitude better than Nortons. Karen List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: Message I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. SteveList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: Message Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. SteveList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: Message Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. SteveList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: Message mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. SteveList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: Message It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at it. -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. SteveList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen
Title: Message Why should that necessarily be personal? It is woefully inadequate. [1] [1] and they know it and have already fixed it -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen It is a very fine product though. Definitely in the top 2. My dislike of the GUI is a personal thing. It should be no means dissuade anyone from looking at it. -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen mine too. Thats one reason I dont have it -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:04To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Thanks to all. I appreciate it. -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:06 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen Really? I have found Antigens interface to be very poor. That has been my complaint throughout the entire eval process. -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen I use Antigen because it is easier (for me) to setup but also think that Trend works well. ellery july phone - 651-225-3895 -Original Message-From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen Ladies and Gentlemen; Been away from the list for a few months. I'm SURE this has been addressed and beat to death in my absence but I need to pose the question: Is Antigen still the choice for Exchange box virus protection? Still running InnoculateIT :-(. I finally got budget approval and would appreciate an opinion update. Thanks. SteveList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
This lasted til month end when we put it in - Accounts 01.Jan.02.doc 200 times meant it quickly got cancelled. -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 February 2002 22:36 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server. We were advised by Sybari support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses (e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I compromised and removed that filter. We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com, vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is). Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently. As I understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting language that we are not filtering. I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering *.*.* attachments. How many of you are using that filter? Do you think it adds significant protection? Have we missed any valuable filters? TIA Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
We use this filter and the only downside is that many people choose to hide extensions of well-known file types on their pc's. Thus, when they save, for example, a Word document the .doc extension gets hidden but most people seem to forget that it's hidden and save with the extension such as test.doc. Therefore, the filename of the document actually is test.doc.doc which gets picked up by this filter. They then send this document to your user and your user gets pissy that everything gets blocked. You then have to have that user make sure exactly what they were expecting and from who if you want to be safe before releasing it. Just an FYI. Hope it helps. -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server. We were advised by Sybari support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses (e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I compromised and removed that filter. We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com, vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is). Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently. As I understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting language that we are not filtering. I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering *.*.* attachments. How many of you are using that filter? Do you think it adds significant protection? Have we missed any valuable filters? TIA Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
Title: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? We use this filter and the only downside is that many people choose to hide extensions of well-known file types on their pc's. Thus, They don't choose to hide; it's the default, and most people don't know that it's a stupid default and should be changed. Actually, IMO any half-knowledgeable admin would change that setting, before giving the PC to a user. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
Title: RE: Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile? You're sooo right. I completely forgot that as an Exchange admin here at my company I have the ability to control what thousands of my user's friends and business associates have set on their home and office computers. Also, I forgot about all of those nice Windows 2000 GPO settings that allow me tocontrol the settings of internet kiosks in airports and coffee bars. Thank you so much for reminding me of this. I really appreciate it. -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:01 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile? We use this filter and the only downside is that many people choose to "hide extensions of well-known file types" on their pc's. Thus, They don't "choose" to hide; it's the default, and most people don't know that it's a stupid default and should be changed. Actually, IMO any half-knowledgeable admin would change that setting, before giving the PC to a user.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, & Russell, P.A. .+- «µêÚÑ@A«a¶Úÿ0²éÛz[l¡ûpj·¢oÞÅÈZ¥Ë\ ªíz¸m
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
Title: Message ROFL!! -Original Message-From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:39 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile? You're sooo right. I completely forgot that as an Exchange admin here at my company I have the ability to control what thousands of my user's friends and business associates have set on their home and office computers. Also, I forgot about all of those nice Windows 2000 GPO settings that allow me tocontrol the settings of internet kiosks in airports and coffee bars. Thank you so much for reminding me of this. I really appreciate it. -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:01 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile? We use this filter and the only downside is that many people choose to "hide extensions of well-known file types" on their pc's. Thus, They don't "choose" to hide; it's the default, and most people don't know that it's a stupid default and should be changed. Actually, IMO any half-knowledgeable admin would change that setting, before giving the PC to a user.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A..+- «µêÚÑ@A«a¶Úÿ 0²éÛz[l¡ûpj·œ¢oÞÅÈZž¥ŠË\…ªíz¸m List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
Title: RE: Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile? Very witty. Doesn't invalidate my statement that the people who have thissetting turned onusually do so because of ignorance of the consequences, and not by choice. No, you can't control home PCs. You might be able to complain to the owners of the Internet kiosks to properly reconfigure those PCs, if you notice a trend coming from any in particular. The way you respond to this situation is exactly the way I would respond. I was merely pointing out the error in that *1* statement - that users "choose" that setting. In my experience, it's almost never a "choice". Which is why I commented only on that *1* portion of your post, and not on how to deal with it afterwards. -- Michael Leone, Systems Administrator Philadelphia Contributionship 210 S. 4th Street, Philadelphia, PA 19106 mailto: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] V: 215-627-1752 x1282 F: 215-627-5354 -Original Message-From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:39 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile? You're sooo right. I completely forgot that as an Exchange admin here at my company I have the ability to control what thousands of my user's friends and business associates have set on their home and office computers. Also, I forgot about all of those nice Windows 2000 GPO settings that allow me tocontrol the settings of internet kiosks in airports and coffee bars. Thank you so much for reminding me of this. I really appreciate it. -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:01 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen filter "*.*.*" - worthwhile? We use this filter and the only downside is that many people choose to "hide extensions of well-known file types" on their pc's. Thus, They don't "choose" to hide; it's the default, and most people don't know that it's a stupid default and should be changed. Actually, IMO any half-knowledgeable admin would change that setting, before giving the PC to a user.List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A..+- «µêÚÑ@A«a¶Úÿ 0²éÛz[l¡ûpj·oe¢oÞÅÈZ¥Ë\...ªíz¸m List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
I don't see the need for it. Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an application. Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set to filter .VBS. It's never missed one for me. -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server. We were advised by Sybari support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses (e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I compromised and removed that filter. We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com, vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is). Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently. As I understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting language that we are not filtering. I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering *.*.* attachments. How many of you are using that filter? Do you think it adds significant protection? Have we missed any valuable filters? TIA Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
Actually, no. The Internet Scan Job in Antigen, filtering on *.com, allows *.*.com to get through. This is a known bug. It works properly on the Realtime and Manual scan jobs - its only the Internet Scan Job which is at risk. I don't know if the issue extends beyond *.com to *.vbs. This became an issue last week with the My Party worm, where the Internet Scan Job was letting it into the system, but then the Realtime job was grabbing it. Antigen is working on a fix. In the meantime, Premium Support has suggested you configure your Internet Scan Job to filter on *.*.com. For more information, contact Sybari directly. Best, Jesse Wendel Sr. Messaging Analyst www.pse.com -Original Message- From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? I don't see the need for it. Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an application. Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set to filter .VBS. It's never missed one for me. -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server. We were advised by Sybari support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses (e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I compromised and removed that filter. We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com, vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is). Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently. As I understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting language that we are not filtering. I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering *.*.* attachments. How many of you are using that filter? Do you think it adds significant protection? Have we missed any valuable filters? TIA Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
Is anyone aware of this same issue with Trend? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Wendel, Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? Actually, no. The Internet Scan Job in Antigen, filtering on *.com, allows *.*.com to get through. This is a known bug. It works properly on the Realtime and Manual scan jobs - its only the Internet Scan Job which is at risk. I don't know if the issue extends beyond *.com to *.vbs. This became an issue last week with the My Party worm, where the Internet Scan Job was letting it into the system, but then the Realtime job was grabbing it. Antigen is working on a fix. In the meantime, Premium Support has suggested you configure your Internet Scan Job to filter on *.*.com. For more information, contact Sybari directly. Best, Jesse Wendel Sr. Messaging Analyst www.pse.com -Original Message- From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? I don't see the need for it. Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an application. Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set to filter .VBS. It's never missed one for me. -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server. We were advised by Sybari support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses (e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I compromised and removed that filter. We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com, vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is). Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently. As I understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting language that we are not filtering. I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering *.*.* attachments. How many of you are using that filter? Do you think it adds significant protection? Have we missed any valuable filters? TIA Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
I don't know for sure, but I do know that MyParty got blocked on our ScanMail just fine with *.COM being blocked. -Original Message- From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? Is anyone aware of this same issue with Trend? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Wendel, Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? Actually, no. The Internet Scan Job in Antigen, filtering on *.com, allows *.*.com to get through. This is a known bug. It works properly on the Realtime and Manual scan jobs - its only the Internet Scan Job which is at risk. I don't know if the issue extends beyond *.com to *.vbs. This became an issue last week with the My Party worm, where the Internet Scan Job was letting it into the system, but then the Realtime job was grabbing it. Antigen is working on a fix. In the meantime, Premium Support has suggested you configure your Internet Scan Job to filter on *.*.com. For more information, contact Sybari directly. Best, Jesse Wendel Sr. Messaging Analyst www.pse.com -Original Message- From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? I don't see the need for it. Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an application. Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set to filter .VBS. It's never missed one for me. -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server. We were advised by Sybari support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses (e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I compromised and removed that filter. We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com, vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is). Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently. As I understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting language that we are not filtering. I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering *.*.* attachments. How many of you are using that filter? Do you think it adds significant protection? Have we missed any valuable filters? TIA Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
Well I must have a special release of Antigen. I filter with *.extension (*.com, *.bat ect...) and Antigen catches all of them. Any place I can read about this bug? I have not seen this issue. Mark -Original Message- From: Wendel, Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? Actually, no. The Internet Scan Job in Antigen, filtering on *.com, allows *.*.com to get through. This is a known bug. It works properly on the Realtime and Manual scan jobs - its only the Internet Scan Job which is at risk. I don't know if the issue extends beyond *.com to *.vbs. This became an issue last week with the My Party worm, where the Internet Scan Job was letting it into the system, but then the Realtime job was grabbing it. Antigen is working on a fix. In the meantime, Premium Support has suggested you configure your Internet Scan Job to filter on *.*.com. For more information, contact Sybari directly. Best, Jesse Wendel Sr. Messaging Analyst www.pse.com -Original Message- From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? I don't see the need for it. Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an application. Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set to filter .VBS. It's never missed one for me. -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server. We were advised by Sybari support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses (e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I compromised and removed that filter. We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com, vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is). Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently. As I understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting language that we are not filtering. I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering *.*.* attachments. How many of you are using that filter? Do you think it adds significant protection? Have we missed any valuable filters? TIA Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
Sorry...not on my boxen. *.com gets all iterations. -Original Message- From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? Is anyone aware of this same issue with Trend? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Wendel, Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? Actually, no. The Internet Scan Job in Antigen, filtering on *.com, allows *.*.com to get through. This is a known bug. It works properly on the Realtime and Manual scan jobs - its only the Internet Scan Job which is at risk. I don't know if the issue extends beyond *.com to *.vbs. This became an issue last week with the My Party worm, where the Internet Scan Job was letting it into the system, but then the Realtime job was grabbing it. Antigen is working on a fix. In the meantime, Premium Support has suggested you configure your Internet Scan Job to filter on *.*.com. For more information, contact Sybari directly. Best, Jesse Wendel Sr. Messaging Analyst www.pse.com -Original Message- From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? I don't see the need for it. Antigen will filter based on the last extension in a file with multiple extensions. This is the same way Windows associates the file with an application. Given a file mytrojan.doc.vbs, Antigen will pick it off if you are set to filter .VBS. It's never missed one for me. -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 4:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server. We were advised by Sybari support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses (e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I compromised and removed that filter. We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com, vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is). Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently. As I understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting language that we are not filtering. I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering *.*.* attachments. How many of you are using that filter? Do you think it adds significant protection? Have we missed any valuable filters? TIA Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile?
I've filtered *.jpg, among others, for yearsThis filter grabs the double extension files. -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen filter *.*.* - worthwhile? We run Antigen 6.2 on our Exchange 5.5 server. We were advised by Sybari support to include the filter, *.*.*, which they said are often viruses (e.g. annakournikova.jpg.vbs). We tried it for a while, but were quarantining too many valid user attachments, and they rebelled, so I compromised and removed that filter. We are filtering exe, bat, cmd, com, vbs, vb, js, shs, lnk, pif, scr, hta, htm, and *.*} (whatever that is). Also we are using three AV engines, and updating them frequently. As I understand it, the *.*.* filter would only come into play on a new virus for which we don't yet have the signature, and is some other scripting language that we are not filtering. I'd like to get feedback on the protection compromise of not filtering *.*.* attachments. How many of you are using that filter? Do you think it adds significant protection? Have we missed any valuable filters? TIA Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?
No problems here. I just upgraded the production servers last week. js -Original Message- From: Kerry Vosswinkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 5:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen build 842 - any known problems? Anyone running Antigen build 842 and having problems? We need to upgrade (due to a problem with build 838), and just want to test the water before jumping. Kerry Vosswinkel Systems Manager Fort Lewis College Durango CO vosswinkel_k at fortlewis dot edu (970) 247-7345 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?
We're running 842 and seeing problems with 'Unknown' senders and recipients in the notifications. -Original Message- From: Senter, John M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen build 842 - any known problems? No problems here. I just upgraded the production servers last week. js -Original Message- From: Kerry Vosswinkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 5:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen build 842 - any known problems? Anyone running Antigen build 842 and having problems? We need to upgrade (due to a problem with build 838), and just want to test the water before jumping. Kerry Vosswinkel Systems Manager Fort Lewis College Durango CO vosswinkel_k at fortlewis dot edu (970) 247-7345 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?
None here, but you may want to test your own water. -Original Message- From: Kerry Vosswinkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen build 842 - any known problems? Anyone running Antigen build 842 and having problems? We need to upgrade (due to a problem with build 838), and just want to test the water before jumping. Kerry Vosswinkel Systems Manager Fort Lewis College Durango CO vosswinkel_k at fortlewis dot edu (970) 247-7345 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen build 842 - any known problems?
I have seen more timeouts during the update downloads. I had 1 of these from 3 offices since the initial install, now since upgrading to 842, I've had 3 in the past week. Have a case into support to resolve which has always worked well. But, why do I continue to get timeouts - the connections are fine and I've increased the timeout from the reg as they recommended. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Kerry Vosswinkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen build 842 - any known problems? Anyone running Antigen build 842 and having problems? We need to upgrade (due to a problem with build 838), and just want to test the water before jumping. Kerry Vosswinkel Systems Manager Fort Lewis College Durango CO vosswinkel_k at fortlewis dot edu (970) 247-7345 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
So do I use ISA for this - could of used my firewall instead to to block the Mesenger/ICQ side I suppose. There was a list of ip addresses ports posted to the list a while back, I'll have a look for it on Monday when I'm back in the office unless someone has posted it before me. Night all - it's 2:15 am here in NZ and I only logged in to see if there was an e-mail from a friend, so why I'm doing THIS I have no idea! dedication? or stupidity? Simon -Original Message- From: Brent Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 14 December 2001 7:30 p.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Off topic.. But I use ISA .. B -Original Message- From: Greg Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2001 08:26 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Antigen vs. ScanMail How would I go about blocking things like this? Use an entry in the local DNS pointing to a custom web page maybe? Regards,... Greg - Original Message - From: Simon Curtiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:47 PM Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail heh heh heh - Did that about two months ago - a few complaints for a while, now it's accepted. MSN Mesenger ICQ etc also blocked -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 14 December 2001 2:26 p.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Two jobs ago, the Security dept blocked AOL.com, hotmail.com, yahoo.com, etc. So that was that... -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 18:24 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Sounds like you may have a communications problem. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Me preaching to users: as a preventative measure against computer viruses, please don't access your web-based personal mail accounts like Yahoo or Hotmail from the corporate desktop. What (several of) the users hear: please don't open any mail if it's from someone with a hotmail or yahoo account as all these messages will have a computer virus sigh -Original Message- From: Brent Hudson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 13, 2001 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Just my 2c (for what its worth)... educating users and hammering your point home re the trials and tribulations of viruses does also help... the only drawback is the 1000 messages you get er.. is this attachment ok to open later Brent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 December 2001 09:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We 'just' changed over to the Trend suite from *cough* CA's wannabe version of antivirus. Other then the fact that I got the message attachment blocking up and running less then an hour before the goner virus starting hammering our server, it was not too painful to configure. Some of the trial's and tribulations of the install: The tvcs console wants a default password...not the one you installed it with.and of course it is not in their documentation, but IS on their knowledge base..yippee...esp when you discover that after totally un-installing and re-installing because you think you've made a mistake. The console itself...well...personally I don't like the lack of functionality that it provides (when you compare it to the individual product consoles), but...it does kind of work. So far, so good! Its pushing the install to the NT machines without too many problems, and will even uninstall CA's product first before it installs (very slick!) and the definitions are deployed pretty quickly to the machines when they come online in the am. The server protect piece works pretty smoothly as well and yes, you can push out the install to remote servers fairly easily. It took us a while, but we finally managed to get corp to make a wise decision! *grin* Two thumbs up to Trend!! Smile Lots! Cameron -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's EPO? Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to two products. Jonathan -Original Message
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
This sounds exactly like a Dilbert cartoon I have on my wall. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Me preaching to users: as a preventative measure against computer viruses, please don't access your web-based personal mail accounts like Yahoo or Hotmail from the corporate desktop. What (several of) the users hear: please don't open any mail if it's from someone with a hotmail or yahoo account as all these messages will have a computer virus sigh List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen and NAV MSE
Title: Message How to manually uninstall Norton AntiVirus for Microsoft ExchangeSituation:In the event of a failed installation of Norton AntiVirus for Microsoft Exchange (NAVMSE), it may be necessary to manually remove the program to install NAVMSE cleanly.Solution:This document provides detailed instructions for manually removing all NAVMSE components from: Microsoft Exchange Mail control panel The registry The hard drive The Start menuNOTES: The steps provided in this document should be used only in circumstances where NAVMSE cannot be uninstalled through conventional means. You must stop the NAVMSE service before uninstalling.To remove the NAVMSE public folder and mailbox from Microsoft Exchange: 1. Double-click the Inbox icon on the desktop.2. Login with the NAVMSE account.NOTE: If you were not prompted to login with a particular profile, then click the File menu, and then click Exit and Log Off. Open Inbox again, and then login with the NAVMSE account.3. Double-click Public Folders in the left window.4. Double-click All Public Folders.5. Delete the NAVMSE public folder.6. Click the File menu, and then click Exit and Log Off.To remove the NAVMSE mailbox from Exchange: 1. Open the Microsoft Exchange Administrator.2. Click Recipients at the bottom of the left pane.3. Delete the NAVMSE mailbox in the right pane.NOTE: If you do not see the NAVMSE mailbox, then click the View menu, and then click Hidden Recipients.To remove the NAVMSE mail profile: 1. Open the Control Panel, and then click Mail.2. Click Show Profiles.3. Select the Norton AntiVirus for Exchange profile, and then click Remove.To remove NAVMSE from the registry:CAUTION: We strongly recommend that you back up your system registry before making any changes. Incorrect changes to your registry could result in permanent data loss or corrupted files. Please make sure you modify only the keys specified. Please see How to Back Up Your Windows Registry before proceeding. 1. Open the Registry Editor.2. Delete the following registry keys:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Symantec\NAVMSEHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\NavExchangeHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Norton Antivirus for Microsoft ExchangeTo remove NAVMSE from the hard drive: 1. Open Windows Explorer.2. Delete the C:\Program Files\NAVMSE folder.3. Delete the following file:C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Navmse.isu4. If NAVMSE is the only Symantec program installed on the computer, then you may also delete the following folders: C:\Program Files\Symantec C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\VirusDefsTo remove NAVMSE from the Start menu: 1. Open Windows Explorer.2. Delete the following folder:C:\WINNT\Profies\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Norton AntiVirus for Microsoft Exchange Product(s): Norton AntiVirus for MS Exchange 1.0, Norton AntiVirus for MS Exchange 2.0Operating System(s): Document ID: 1998112417220548Date Created: 11/24/98Last Modified: 03/05/2001 -Original Message-From: Blake R. Fowkes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 14:54To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Antigen and NAV MSE I am currently running NAV MSE 2.17 on my NT 4 SP6a Exchange 5.5 SP4 box. Do any of you know if I can install Antigen on top of what is there, or will it mess things up? I am about totally sick of NAV and need to find something better. I hear that Antigen or Trend is the way to go. Which one would you all recommend? Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Muriel Strode List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm line_all_greyline.gif Description: GIF image line_all_greyline.gif Description: GIF image List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means. Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me. Thank you very much in advance, Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there were. -David Brinkley - -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications. I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another (yes i got it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.* except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL attachments without exception, or block only the files with the extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just looking at the extension but also checking the file's headers to make sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe. But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, hence give you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which removes the filtered extensions from compressed files also. The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good. I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that ScanMail does have. Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about em, do what you want to do with the info ;) Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably Palm (I think it's Belgian). Greets, Bob List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. AFAIK, this is the best site for this: http://www.acronymfinder.com Neil -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means. Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me. Thank you very much in advance, Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there were. -David Brinkley - -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications. I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another (yes i got it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.* except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL attachments without exception, or block only the files with the extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just looking at the extension but also checking the file's headers to make sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe. But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, hence give you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which removes the filtered extensions from compressed files also. The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good. I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that ScanMail does have. Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about em, do what you want to do with the info ;) Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably Palm (I think it's Belgian). Greets, Bob List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
Thanks!! :) PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;) Thanks for that Michèle!! Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. AFAIK, this is the best site for this: http://www.acronymfinder.com Neil -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means. Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me. Thank you very much in advance, Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there were. -David Brinkley - -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications. I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another (yes i got it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.* except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL attachments without exception, or block only the files with the extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just looking at the extension but also checking the file's headers to make sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe. But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, hence give you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which removes the filtered extensions from compressed files also. The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good. I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that ScanMail does have. Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about em, do what you want to do with the info ;) Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably Palm (I think it's Belgian). Greets, Bob List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well. And what's Trend have that we don't? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || msharik@avtro| || n.com| || | || 12/12/2001 | || 11:12 AM | || Please | || respond to | || MS-Exchange | || Admin Issues| || | |+--- ---| | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail | ---| IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there were. -David Brinkley - -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications. I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another (yes i got it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.* except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL attachments without exception, or block only the files with the extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just looking at the extension but also checking the file's headers to make sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe. But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, hence give you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which removes the filtered extensions from compressed files also. The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good. I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that ScanMail does have. Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about em, do what you want to do with the info ;) Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably Palm (I think it's Belgian). Greets, Bob List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
A better management console? When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well. And what's Trend have that we don't? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
I agree with John. For corporations with a large amount of servers to manage, it is far to difficult to manage a large amount of servers without a central management console especially when a virus makes the rounds and file filtering or dat updates need to be pushed out to all servers. I have seen the beta of the Sybari console and it still needs some major work to be used successfully. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail A better management console? When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well. And what's Trend have that we don't? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
I know the beta has a global rollout template. I think it has the global console, but I have only one server, and haven't been involved in testing (poor me! too busy with my actual job to help out with testing!). ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+ || John Matteson | || John.Matteson| || @geac.com| ||| || 12/13/2001| || 10:08 AM | || Please respond| || to| || MS-Exchange | || Admin Issues | ||| |+ ---| | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail | ---| A better management console? When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well. And what's Trend have that we don't? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)
Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen? Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the size of a postage stamp? PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail A better management console? When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well. And what's Trend have that we don't? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Thanks!! :) PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;) Thanks for that Michèle!! Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. AFAIK, this is the best site for this: http://www.acronymfinder.com Neil -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means. Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me. Thank you very much in advance, Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there were. -David Brinkley - -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications. I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another (yes i got it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.* except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL attachments without exception, or block only the files with the extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just looking at the extension but also checking the file's headers to make sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe. But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, hence give you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which removes the filtered extensions from compressed files also. The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good. I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that ScanMail does have. Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about em, do what you want to do with the info ;) Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably Palm (I think it's Belgian). Greets, Bob List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm *** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE *** Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message and/or its attachments. This message and its
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. Jackye -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Thanks!! :) PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;) Thanks for that Michèle!! Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. AFAIK, this is the best site for this: http://www.acronymfinder.com Neil -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means. Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me. Thank you very much in advance, Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there were. -David Brinkley - -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications. I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another (yes i got it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.* except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL attachments without exception, or block only the files with the extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just looking at the extension but also checking the file's headers to make sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe. But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, hence give you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which removes the filtered extensions from compressed files also. The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good. I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that ScanMail does have. Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about em, do what you want to do with the info ;) Now i could use a nice cold beer, preferably Palm (I think it's Belgian). Greets, Bob List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's EPO? Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to two products. Jonathan -Original Message-From: Moody, Jacqueline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. Jackye -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Thanks!! :) PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;) Thanks for that Michèle!! Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. AFAIK, this is the best site for this: http://www.acronymfinder.com Neil -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means. Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me. Thank you very much in advance, Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there were." -David Brinkley - -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications. I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another (yes i got it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.* except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL attachments without exception, or block only the files with the extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just looking at the extension but also checking the file's headers to make sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe. But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, hence give you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which removes the filtered extensions from compressed files also. The viruschecking part of both apps seem to be thorough and good. I think i'm gonna use ScanMail instead of Antigen on our main Ex2k server though, Antigen is good but i am missing a few features that ScanMail does have. Well I just wanted to let you all know what I think about em, do what you want to do with the info ;) Now i could use a nice
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)
That is actually being worked on. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Micciche, Robert | || RMicciche@cooperwiringde| || vices.com | || | || 12/13/2001 10:27 AM | || Please respond to| || MS-Exchange Admin | || Issues | || | |+--- ---| | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) | ---| Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen? Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the size of a postage stamp? PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail A better management console? When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well. And what's Trend have that we don't? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
NAV CE has a better mechanism, I feel... --- Crouthamel, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's EPO? Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to two products. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Moody, Jacqueline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. Jackye -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Thanks!! :) PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;) Thanks for that Michèle!! Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Neil Hobson [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. AFAIK, this is the best site for this: http://www.acronymfinder.com http://www.acronymfinder.com Neil -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means. Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me. Thank you very much in advance, Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there were. -David Brinkley - -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications. I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another (yes i got it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.* except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL attachments without exception, or block only the files with the extensions you provide. A point extra goes to Antigen for not just looking at the extension but also checking the file's headers to make sure a .jpg isn't in fact a .exe. But ScanMail gets the extra point for the option to set how deep compressed files should be checked for filtered extensions, hence give you the option to ignore zipfiles(!), unlike Antigen, which removes the filtered extensions from compressed
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
Title: Message Yes, we have a centralized console. We also have all users run a check in their logon script.It will uninstall old anti-virus and install Trend if they do not have Trend Officescan yet. If they do, it willcheck fornewvirus patterns and update if necessary. We had a very old version of NAI on a lot of machines that Trend did not have an uninstall for, so they provided us one when we requested it. All viruses found get reported back to the central console. We have been able to use the logs as evidence to prosecute hackers on our WAN. It would have been near impossible to catch them without Trend. We didn't have centralized with NAI. We were working on it with them and wound up losing the entire project because they raised the cost mid-stream. Jacqueline -Original Message-From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's EPO? Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to two products. Jonathan -Original Message-From: Moody, Jacqueline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. Jackye -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Thanks!! :) PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;) Thanks for that Michèle!! Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. AFAIK, this is the best site for this: http://www.acronymfinder.com Neil -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means. Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me. Thank you very much in advance, Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there were." -David Brinkley - -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications. I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another (yes i got it worki
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We 'just' changed over to the Trend suite from *cough* CA's wannabe version of antivirus. Other then the fact that I got the message attachment blocking up and running less then an hour before the goner virus starting hammering our server, it was not too painful to configure. Some of the trial's and tribulations of the install: The tvcs console wants a default password...not the one you installed it with.and of course it is not in their documentation, but IS on their knowledge base..yippee...esp when you discover that after totally un-installing and re-installing because you think you've made a mistake. The console itself...well...personally I don't like the lack of functionality that it provides (when you compare it to the individual product consoles), but...it does kind of work. So far, so good! Its pushing the install to the NT machines without too many problems, and will even uninstall CA's product first before it installs (very slick!) and the definitions are deployed pretty quickly to the machines when they come online in the am. The server protect piece works pretty smoothly as well and yes, you can push out the install to remote servers fairly easily. It took us a while, but we finally managed to get corp to make a wise decision! *grin* Two thumbs up to Trend!! Smile Lots! Cameron -Original Message-From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's EPO? Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to two products. Jonathan -Original Message-From: Moody, Jacqueline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. Jackye -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Thanks!! :) PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;) Thanks for that Michèle!! Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. AFAIK, this is the best site for this: http://www.acronymfinder.com Neil -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means. Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me. Thank you very much in advance, Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "The one function that TV news per
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Just hope like HE** that you never have to try and call Symantec for support. I do not think that there support department really exists. Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Muriel Strode -Original Message- From: David N Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail NAV CE has a better mechanism, I feel... --- Crouthamel, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's EPO? Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to two products. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Moody, Jacqueline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. Jackye -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Thanks!! :) PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;) Thanks for that Michèle!! Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Neil Hobson [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. AFAIK, this is the best site for this: http://www.acronymfinder.com http://www.acronymfinder.com Neil -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail First of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means. Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me. Thank you very much in advance, Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Verzonden: woensdag 12 december 2001 17:13 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail IIRC, you can configure Antigen to ignore the contents of zip files. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no news, we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there were. -David Brinkley - -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Antigen vs. ScanMail Here's my 2 EUR cents about these 2 applications. I installed Antigen on one server and ScanMail on another (yes i got it working after i applied SP2 for Ex2k). From what i've seen so far, neither one has the ability to block *.* except *.zip, for example. You have the choice to either block ALL attachments without
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Just my 2c (for what its worth)... educating users and hammering your point home re the trials and tribulations of viruses does also help... the only drawback is the 1000 messages you get "er.. is this attachment ok to open" later Brent -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 13 December 2001 09:01To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We 'just' changed over to the Trend suite from *cough* CA's wannabe version of antivirus. Other then the fact that I got the message attachment blocking up and running less then an hour before the goner virus starting hammering our server, it was not too painful to configure. Some of the trial's and tribulations of the install: The tvcs console wants a default password...not the one you installed it with.and of course it is not in their documentation, but IS on their knowledge base..yippee...esp when you discover that after totally un-installing and re-installing because you think you've made a mistake. The console itself...well...personally I don't like the lack of functionality that it provides (when you compare it to the individual product consoles), but...it does kind of work. So far, so good! Its pushing the install to the NT machines without too many problems, and will even uninstall CA's product first before it installs (very slick!) and the definitions are deployed pretty quickly to the machines when they come online in the am. The server protect piece works pretty smoothly as well and yes, you can push out the install to remote servers fairly easily. It took us a while, but we finally managed to get corp to make a wise decision! *grin* Two thumbs up to Trend!! Smile Lots! Cameron -Original Message-From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's EPO? Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to two products. Jonathan -Original Message-From: Moody, Jacqueline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. Jackye -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Thanks!! :) PS: Ignore my last post, especially the Antigen part, I read newer posts and found the answer I was looking for ;) Thanks for that Michèle!! Bob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2001 10:03 Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Onderwerp: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMailIIRC = If I Remember Correctly. AFAIK, this is the best site for this: http://www.acronymfinder.com Neil -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 13 December 2001 08:51 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Antigen vs. ScanMail Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMailFirst of all my appologies for not understanding what IIRC means. Second, I've been through every option in Antigen and i canNOT find ANY way to ignore zipfile contends. So, if you DO have that option then please be so kind and enlighten me. Thank you very much
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)
Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) I should hope so, it's pretty damn ridiculous. BUT: I am glad Sybari spent their programming efforts on stopping viruses and not on graphic displays. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) That is actually being worked on. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- | | Micciche, Robert | | | RMicciche@cooperwiringde| | | vices.com | | | | | | 12/13/2001 10:27 AM | | | Please respond to | | | MS-Exchange Admin | | | Issues | | | | |+--- ---| | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) | ---| Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen? Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the size of a postage stamp? PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail A better management console? When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Also, if the .zip file is password protected, it will ignore it as well. And what's Trend have that we don't? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)
I have several other gripes about it, but they could just be the admin and not the product. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) That is actually being worked on. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Micciche, Robert | || RMicciche@cooperwiringde| || vices.com | || | || 12/13/2001 10:27 AM | || Please respond to| || MS-Exchange Admin | || Issues | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) | --- | Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen? Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the size of a postage stamp? PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail A better management console? When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)
Title: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) LOL -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) I have several other gripes about it, but they could just be the admin and not the product. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) That is actually being worked on. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- | | Micciche, Robert | | | RMicciche@cooperwiringde| | | vices.com | | | | | | 12/13/2001 10:27 AM | | | Please respond to | | | MS-Exchange Admin | | | Issues | | | | |+--- --- | | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) | --- | Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen? Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the size of a postage stamp? PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail A better management console? When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)
I could throw things at the developers until all this is fixed... They won't like me much after that though, I am thinking. But, it might be kinda fun. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+ || Lefkovics, | || William | || wlefkovics@ascent| || rausa.com| ||| || 12/13/2001 03:29 | || PM| || Please respond to | || MS-Exchange Admin| || Issues | ||| |+ ---| | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) | ---| I have several other gripes about it, but they could just be the admin and not the product. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) That is actually being worked on. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Micciche, Robert | || RMicciche@cooperwiringde| || vices.com | || | || 12/13/2001 10:27 AM | || Please respond to| || MS-Exchange Admin | || Issues | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) | --- | Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen? Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the size of a postage stamp? PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail A better management console? When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)
Here is one When setting up Ext blocking, you have to enter them one at a time. That can be a hell of a lot of work when using the Martin Blackstone Blocked Extensions List(r) That is one thing cool about SM. You just paste in the whole glob at once. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) I could throw things at the developers until all this is fixed... They won't like me much after that though, I am thinking. But, it might be kinda fun. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+ || Lefkovics, | || William | || wlefkovics@ascent| || rausa.com| ||| || 12/13/2001 03:29 | || PM| || Please respond to | || MS-Exchange Admin| || Issues | ||| |+ --- | | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) | --- | I have several other gripes about it, but they could just be the admin and not the product. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) That is actually being worked on. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Micciche, Robert | || RMicciche@cooperwiringde| || vices.com | || | || 12/13/2001 10:27 AM | || Please respond to| || MS-Exchange Admin | || Issues | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) | --- | Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen? Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the size of a postage stamp? PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail A better management console? When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp)
Don't tell the developers, tell the salespeople that Trend is getting more recommendations on an important international Exchange list because the console is lacking. I could developers stuff til I was blue in the face. As soon as a salesrep lost a sale, everything got re-prioritized. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) I could throw things at the developers until all this is fixed... They won't like me much after that though, I am thinking. But, it might be kinda fun. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+ || Lefkovics, | || William | || wlefkovics@ascent| || rausa.com| ||| || 12/13/2001 03:29 | || PM| || Please respond to | || MS-Exchange Admin| || Issues | ||| |+ --- | | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) | --- | I have several other gripes about it, but they could just be the admin and not the product. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) That is actually being worked on. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Micciche, Robert | || RMicciche@cooperwiringde| || vices.com | || | || 12/13/2001 10:27 AM | || Please respond to| || MS-Exchange Admin | || Issues | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail (Postage Stamp) | --- | Or how about a damn console window that scales to the size of my screen? Is it just me or does the Antigen console window always insist on being the size of a postage stamp? PS this is pretty much my only gripe with a truly magnificent product. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail A better management console? When will Sybari ever come out with a console that will allow you to make GLOBAL changes once and push them out to the servers? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
Me preaching to users: as a preventative measure against computer viruses, please don't access your web-based personal mail accounts like Yahoo or Hotmail from the corporate desktop. What (several of) the users hear: please don't open any mail if it's from someone with a hotmail or yahoo account as all these messages will have a computer virus sigh -Original Message- From: Brent Hudson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 13, 2001 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Just my 2c (for what its worth)... educating users and hammering your point home re the trials and tribulations of viruses does also help... the only drawback is the 1000 messages you get er.. is this attachment ok to open later Brent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 December 2001 09:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We 'just' changed over to the Trend suite from *cough* CA's wannabe version of antivirus. Other then the fact that I got the message attachment blocking up and running less then an hour before the goner virus starting hammering our server, it was not too painful to configure. Some of the trial's and tribulations of the install: The tvcs console wants a default password...not the one you installed it with.and of course it is not in their documentation, but IS on their knowledge base..yippee...esp when you discover that after totally un-installing and re-installing because you think you've made a mistake. The console itself...well...personally I don't like the lack of functionality that it provides (when you compare it to the individual product consoles), but...it does kind of work. So far, so good! Its pushing the install to the NT machines without too many problems, and will even uninstall CA's product first before it installs (very slick!) and the definitions are deployed pretty quickly to the machines when they come online in the am. The server protect piece works pretty smoothly as well and yes, you can push out the install to remote servers fairly easily. It took us a while, but we finally managed to get corp to make a wise decision! *grin* Two thumbs up to Trend!! Smile Lots! Cameron -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's EPO? Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to two products. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Moody, Jacqueline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. Jackye -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Thanks
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
No doubt!! -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Me preaching to users: as a preventative measure against computer viruses, please don't access your web-based personal mail accounts like Yahoo or Hotmail from the corporate desktop. What (several of) the users hear: please don't open any mail if it's from someone with a hotmail or yahoo account as all these messages will have a computer virus sigh -Original Message- From: Brent Hudson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 13, 2001 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Just my 2c (for what its worth)... educating users and hammering your point home re the trials and tribulations of viruses does also help... the only drawback is the 1000 messages you get er.. is this attachment ok to open later Brent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 December 2001 09:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We 'just' changed over to the Trend suite from *cough* CA's wannabe version of antivirus. Other then the fact that I got the message attachment blocking up and running less then an hour before the goner virus starting hammering our server, it was not too painful to configure. Some of the trial's and tribulations of the install: The tvcs console wants a default password...not the one you installed it with.and of course it is not in their documentation, but IS on their knowledge base..yippee...esp when you discover that after totally un-installing and re-installing because you think you've made a mistake. The console itself...well...personally I don't like the lack of functionality that it provides (when you compare it to the individual product consoles), but...it does kind of work. So far, so good! Its pushing the install to the NT machines without too many problems, and will even uninstall CA's product first before it installs (very slick!) and the definitions are deployed pretty quickly to the machines when they come online in the am. The server protect piece works pretty smoothly as well and yes, you can push out the install to remote servers fairly easily. It took us a while, but we finally managed to get corp to make a wise decision! *grin* Two thumbs up to Trend!! Smile Lots! Cameron -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's EPO? Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to two products. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Moody, Jacqueline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. Jackye -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone used these other products and how have you found them? That was the one and only thing I liked about NAI, getting all the needed products from one vendor. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Bob t. Berge [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail
Two jobs ago, the Security dept blocked AOL.com, hotmail.com, yahoo.com, etc. So that was that... -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 18:24 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Sounds like you may have a communications problem. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Me preaching to users: as a preventative measure against computer viruses, please don't access your web-based personal mail accounts like Yahoo or Hotmail from the corporate desktop. What (several of) the users hear: please don't open any mail if it's from someone with a hotmail or yahoo account as all these messages will have a computer virus sigh -Original Message- From: Brent Hudson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 13, 2001 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Just my 2c (for what its worth)... educating users and hammering your point home re the trials and tribulations of viruses does also help... the only drawback is the 1000 messages you get er.. is this attachment ok to open later Brent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 December 2001 09:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We 'just' changed over to the Trend suite from *cough* CA's wannabe version of antivirus. Other then the fact that I got the message attachment blocking up and running less then an hour before the goner virus starting hammering our server, it was not too painful to configure. Some of the trial's and tribulations of the install: The tvcs console wants a default password...not the one you installed it with.and of course it is not in their documentation, but IS on their knowledge base..yippee...esp when you discover that after totally un-installing and re-installing because you think you've made a mistake. The console itself...well...personally I don't like the lack of functionality that it provides (when you compare it to the individual product consoles), but...it does kind of work. So far, so good! Its pushing the install to the NT machines without too many problems, and will even uninstall CA's product first before it installs (very slick!) and the definitions are deployed pretty quickly to the machines when they come online in the am. The server protect piece works pretty smoothly as well and yes, you can push out the install to remote servers fairly easily. It took us a while, but we finally managed to get corp to make a wise decision! *grin* Two thumbs up to Trend!! Smile Lots! Cameron -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's EPO? Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to two products. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Moody, Jacqueline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. Jackye -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We currently use NAI products (unfortunately). I have been looking into antigen as an alternative when our licenses come up for renewal. A quick perusal on Trend's site shows that they also offer file server as well as desktop protection options. Has anyone
Re: Antigen vs. ScanMail
How would I go about blocking things like this? Use an entry in the local DNS pointing to a custom web page maybe? Regards,... Greg - Original Message - From: Simon Curtiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:47 PM Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail heh heh heh - Did that about two months ago - a few complaints for a while, now it's accepted. MSN Mesenger ICQ etc also blocked -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 14 December 2001 2:26 p.m. To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Two jobs ago, the Security dept blocked AOL.com, hotmail.com, yahoo.com, etc. So that was that... -Original Message- From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 18:24 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Sounds like you may have a communications problem. -Original Message- From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Me preaching to users: as a preventative measure against computer viruses, please don't access your web-based personal mail accounts like Yahoo or Hotmail from the corporate desktop. What (several of) the users hear: please don't open any mail if it's from someone with a hotmail or yahoo account as all these messages will have a computer virus sigh -Original Message- From: Brent Hudson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 13, 2001 3:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Just my 2c (for what its worth)... educating users and hammering your point home re the trials and tribulations of viruses does also help... the only drawback is the 1000 messages you get er.. is this attachment ok to open later Brent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 December 2001 09:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We 'just' changed over to the Trend suite from *cough* CA's wannabe version of antivirus. Other then the fact that I got the message attachment blocking up and running less then an hour before the goner virus starting hammering our server, it was not too painful to configure. Some of the trial's and tribulations of the install: The tvcs console wants a default password...not the one you installed it with.and of course it is not in their documentation, but IS on their knowledge base..yippee...esp when you discover that after totally un-installing and re-installing because you think you've made a mistake. The console itself...well...personally I don't like the lack of functionality that it provides (when you compare it to the individual product consoles), but...it does kind of work. So far, so good! Its pushing the install to the NT machines without too many problems, and will even uninstall CA's product first before it installs (very slick!) and the definitions are deployed pretty quickly to the machines when they come online in the am. The server protect piece works pretty smoothly as well and yes, you can push out the install to remote servers fairly easily. It took us a while, but we finally managed to get corp to make a wise decision! *grin* Two thumbs up to Trend!! Smile Lots! Cameron -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail Do you utilize centralized management with Trend? ie updating desktops via a console. I guess my question is, does Trend have a similar product to NAI's EPO? Thanks for the info...After all these threads its been narrowed down to two products. Jonathan -Original Message- From: Moody, Jacqueline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We also started with NAI and had a lot of problems with it. The desktops defaulted to checking mapped network drives, which slowed some logons down to a crawl. We now have Trend deployed throughout the enterprise (165 site WAN, 400 servers, 20,000+ workstations, Exchange) and are very, make that extremely happy with it. For Exchange, I wouldn't look at anything other than Trend or Antigen. Jackye -Original Message- From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antigen vs. ScanMail We