RE: BES upgrade to 5.0
I see MR1 is out - a bit safer now maybe - I'm leery of jumping to the first release of a new version in production week 1. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 1:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES upgrade to 5.0 I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? Thanks for any help. Jeff ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: BES upgrade to 5.0
I was wondering the same thing. I am have problems with my 4.1.4 and will be doing patching tonight. I have latency, and calendar problems. I have checked cdo and mapi dll files and same version of exchange. Cannot figure it out seems to be only happening to the exec that are in there own mail store and they do have large email stores. Hoping this fixes it cause they are missing appointments. Any advise would be helpful Thank you, David From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES upgrade to 5.0 I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? Thanks for any help. Jeff ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: BES upgrade to 5.0
I started to read the prerequisites and gave up. However I'm virtual so I can take a snapshot and do the in place upgrade, without worries. I may do it this weekend. ___ Stefan Jafs From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES upgrade to 5.0 I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? Thanks for any help. Jeff This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: BES upgrade to 5.0
"I may do it this weekend." And you felt the need to advertise this? Shook From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES upgrade to 5.0 I started to read the prerequisites and gave up. However I'm virtual so I can take a snapshot and do the in place upgrade, without worries. I may do it this weekend. ___ Stefan Jafs From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES upgrade to 5.0 I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? Thanks for any help. Jeff This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: BES upgrade to 5.0
If i was setup virtual I'd be tempted to wag my tail just a tiny little bit. :) On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Andy Shook wrote: > *“I may do it this weekend.”* > > > > > > And you felt the need to advertise this? > > > > Shook > > > > *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] > *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2009 4:42 PM > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: BES upgrade to 5.0 > > > > I started to read the prerequisites and gave up. However I’m virtual so I > can take a snapshot and do the in place upgrade, without worries. I may do > it this weekend. > > > > *___* > > *Stefan Jafs* > > > > *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* BES upgrade to 5.0 > > > > I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am > thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. > Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? > > > > Thanks for any help. Jeff > > > > This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for > the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not > read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed > in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the > Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to > make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept > responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email > or attachments. > > > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: BES upgrade to 5.0
No, no, no... You may to" IT" this weekend. It was a stupid and immature naughty joke. Shook From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 5:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BES upgrade to 5.0 If i was setup virtual I'd be tempted to wag my tail just a tiny little bit. :) On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Andy Shook mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote: "I may do it this weekend." And you felt the need to advertise this? Shook From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com<mailto:sj...@amico.com>] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES upgrade to 5.0 I started to read the prerequisites and gave up. However I'm virtual so I can take a snapshot and do the in place upgrade, without worries. I may do it this weekend. ___ Stefan Jafs From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com<mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com>] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES upgrade to 5.0 I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? Thanks for any help. Jeff This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: BES upgrade to 5.0
sorry, I ONCE was accused of being a little slow, but I'm pretty sure they were wrong. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Andy Shook wrote: > No, no, no… > > > > You may to” IT” this weekend. It was a stupid and immature naughty joke. > > > > > Shook > > > > *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2009 5:03 PM > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: BES upgrade to 5.0 > > > > If i was setup virtual I'd be tempted to wag my tail just a tiny little > bit. :) > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Andy Shook wrote: > > *“I may do it this weekend.”* > > > > > > And you felt the need to advertise this? > > > > Shook > > > > *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] > *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2009 4:42 PM > > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: BES upgrade to 5.0 > > > > I started to read the prerequisites and gave up. However I’m virtual so I > can take a snapshot and do the in place upgrade, without worries. I may do > it this weekend. > > > > *___* > > *Stefan Jafs* > > > > *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* BES upgrade to 5.0 > > > > I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am > thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. > Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? > > > > Thanks for any help. Jeff > > > > This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for > the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not > read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed > in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the > Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to > make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept > responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email > or attachments. > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: BES upgrade to 5.0
It's on my to-do list as well for this summer. I thought I read you can bring up a second BES server and just copy users over one at a time with no down-time? Sounds much easier... Jon . ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: BES upgrade to 5.0
What kind of upgrade are you doing? I did an in-place upgrade to 5.0 from 4.1.6I ran into an issue with being able to log into the dashboard after the upgrade (it could not find the website). There was an issue with the webserver (i believe they are using apache) talking with the database. We had to enable tcp/ip on the database side. I may be able to get more information if needed. It was a pretty easy fix once we figured out what it was. If you have support you may want to have them walk you through the upgrade. Regards, David From: Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 1:34:12 PM Subject: BES upgrade to 5.0 I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? Thanks for any help. Jeff ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: BES upgrade to 5.0
I just finished my research into this today and started the process. Here's my notes. I'm upgrade to 5.0 from 4.x onto new hardware. No external SQL. 1. Upgrade to newest SP on production box 2. Get temp SRP and Migration Kit from BES Customer Support 3. Install fresh server on new hardware, install BES 5.0 using key from #2 4. Use the 'Enterprise Transporter' from the kit to move over users(a few at a time). 5. After everything is good, shut down old server(or uninstall bes software). 6. Original SRP will go bad within 90 days. Jon . ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: BES upgrade to 5.0
Thanks Jon, I'm going to be contacting my RIM support to get this migration kit. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Jon D wrote: > I just finished my research into this today and started the process. > Here's my notes. > I'm upgrade to 5.0 from 4.x onto new hardware. No external SQL. > > 1. Upgrade to newest SP on production box > 2. Get temp SRP and Migration Kit from BES Customer Support > 3. Install fresh server on new hardware, install BES 5.0 using key from #2 > 4. Use the 'Enterprise Transporter' from the kit to move over users(a > few at a time). > 5. After everything is good, shut down old server(or uninstall bes > software). > 6. Original SRP will go bad within 90 days. > > > Jon > > > > . > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ > -- Sherry Abercrombie "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: BES upgrade to 5.0
"execs that are in there own mail store and they do have large email stores." Keep in mind that if they have their Blackberry's configured to keep all email the device may run low on memory. This is especially critical on the Pearl, which tends to eat up what little memory it has with the OS. Also, if your execs are like mine they like to "play", and are always loading software on to their phones. If the device is low on memory, the device may start deleting new emails and appointment requests. What looks like an Exchange/BES issue is actually a device issue. The fix is to set an IT policy on BES that will only allow users to keep 6 months or 3 months of email on their phone and will keep users from loading programs...IF your allowed to do that to your execs. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES upgrade to 5.0 I was wondering the same thing. I am have problems with my 4.1.4 and will be doing patching tonight. I have latency, and calendar problems. I have checked cdo and mapi dll files and same version of exchange. Cannot figure it out seems to be only happening to the exec that are in there own mail store and they do have large email stores. Hoping this fixes it cause they are missing appointments. Any advise would be helpful Thank you, David From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES upgrade to 5.0 I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? Thanks for any help. Jeff ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: BES upgrade to 5.0
WOW! 6 months. Try 2 weeks here. Keeps them running smooth. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP From: Brown, Larry [mailto:larry.br...@dplinc.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES upgrade to 5.0 "execs that are in there own mail store and they do have large email stores." Keep in mind that if they have their Blackberry's configured to keep all email the device may run low on memory. This is especially critical on the Pearl, which tends to eat up what little memory it has with the OS. Also, if your execs are like mine they like to "play", and are always loading software on to their phones. If the device is low on memory, the device may start deleting new emails and appointment requests. What looks like an Exchange/BES issue is actually a device issue. The fix is to set an IT policy on BES that will only allow users to keep 6 months or 3 months of email on their phone and will keep users from loading programs...IF your allowed to do that to your execs. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES upgrade to 5.0 I was wondering the same thing. I am have problems with my 4.1.4 and will be doing patching tonight. I have latency, and calendar problems. I have checked cdo and mapi dll files and same version of exchange. Cannot figure it out seems to be only happening to the exec that are in there own mail store and they do have large email stores. Hoping this fixes it cause they are missing appointments. Any advise would be helpful Thank you, David From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES upgrade to 5.0 I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? Thanks for any help. Jeff CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: BES upgrade to 5.0
I have my phone set for 30 days...but then I try not to keep any email in my inbox. Unfortunately the BES admin before me told the execs they could keep all of their email. Yeah, it's a nightmare for me. Next policy upgrade I'm going to push the idea of 30 days (2 weeks would never fly). We have different management now...they may back me. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES upgrade to 5.0 WOW! 6 months. Try 2 weeks here. Keeps them running smooth. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP From: Brown, Larry [mailto:larry.br...@dplinc.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES upgrade to 5.0 "execs that are in there own mail store and they do have large email stores." Keep in mind that if they have their Blackberry's configured to keep all email the device may run low on memory. This is especially critical on the Pearl, which tends to eat up what little memory it has with the OS. Also, if your execs are like mine they like to "play", and are always loading software on to their phones. If the device is low on memory, the device may start deleting new emails and appointment requests. What looks like an Exchange/BES issue is actually a device issue. The fix is to set an IT policy on BES that will only allow users to keep 6 months or 3 months of email on their phone and will keep users from loading programs...IF your allowed to do that to your execs. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BES upgrade to 5.0 I was wondering the same thing. I am have problems with my 4.1.4 and will be doing patching tonight. I have latency, and calendar problems. I have checked cdo and mapi dll files and same version of exchange. Cannot figure it out seems to be only happening to the exec that are in there own mail store and they do have large email stores. Hoping this fixes it cause they are missing appointments. Any advise would be helpful Thank you, David From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BES upgrade to 5.0 I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? Thanks for any help. Jeff CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~