OT: Spam Titan
Sorry for the edge-topic post. I've tried contacting Spam Titan, but they're not answering phones or emails. (Strike one for them) I'm running a demo of Spam Titan and I'm having difficulty with the quarantine. I'm currently testing by routing inbound email from a disused domain through the Spam Titan box. I have several email addresses in this domain assigned to my account. Good email is flowing through and spam is being quarantined. When I log in as admin, I see lots of quarantined spam addressed to my secondary addresses. The problem is that when I log in to the quarantine as myself, I'm not seeing any quarantined emails. My hunch is that the Spam Titan box is only showing me emails addressed to my primary address. They're aren't any, because that mail isn't going through Spam Titan. Has anyone found a way to make Spam Titan show all mail from all addresses? Steve --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Spam Titan
Unless something has changed since I last looked at this, I believe SpamTitan treats each email address as a separate entity, so you would have to log in using one of your secondary addresses and you will see mail quarantined for that address. Not ideal if you have a few aliases. I have to admit I've never had any success attempting to contact them by phone, but have always had a quick response to email support requests. You could also try their support forum. From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 3:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: Spam Titan Sorry for the edge-topic post. I've tried contacting Spam Titan, but they're not answering phones or emails. (Strike one for them) I'm running a demo of Spam Titan and I'm having difficulty with the quarantine. I'm currently testing by routing inbound email from a disused domain through the Spam Titan box. I have several email addresses in this domain assigned to my account. Good email is flowing through and spam is being quarantined. When I log in as admin, I see lots of quarantined spam addressed to my secondary addresses. The problem is that when I log in to the quarantine as myself, I'm not seeing any quarantined emails. My hunch is that the Spam Titan box is only showing me emails addressed to my primary address. They're aren't any, because that mail isn't going through Spam Titan. Has anyone found a way to make Spam Titan show all mail from all addresses? Steve --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential inf ormation and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is add ressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyon e other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not t he intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Spam Titan
Thanks Ralph. I've posted on the forum and email, as well as two voice mails. I think you're interpretation is exactly correct. Not sure if this is a deal breaker or not. Depends on whether the sales dept is willing to check multiple quarantines or dump old addresses. Steve Steve Hart Network Administrator 503.491.4343 -Direct | 503.492.8160 - Fax From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Spam Titan Unless something has changed since I last looked at this, I believe SpamTitan treats each email address as a separate entity, so you would have to log in using one of your secondary addresses and you will see mail quarantined for that address. Not ideal if you have a few aliases. I have to admit I've never had any success attempting to contact them by phone, but have always had a quick response to email support requests. You could also try their support forum. From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 3:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: Spam Titan Sorry for the edge-topic post. I've tried contacting Spam Titan, but they're not answering phones or emails. (Strike one for them) I'm running a demo of Spam Titan and I'm having difficulty with the quarantine. I'm currently testing by routing inbound email from a disused domain through the Spam Titan box. I have several email addresses in this domain assigned to my account. Good email is flowing through and spam is being quarantined. When I log in as admin, I see lots of quarantined spam addressed to my secondary addresses. The problem is that when I log in to the quarantine as myself, I'm not seeing any quarantined emails. My hunch is that the Spam Titan box is only showing me emails addressed to my primary address. They're aren't any, because that mail isn't going through Spam Titan. Has anyone found a way to make Spam Titan show all mail from all addresses? Steve --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Spam Titan
Read the EULA You need to dig a little. From the homepage click on Contact Us then click the link under the checkbox in the left column titled Yes I have read and accept the software licensing terms Roger From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 1:47 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: R: Spam Titan I didn't find any per CPU term visiting their site ; they start with 50 users GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Roger Scudder [mailto:r...@scudderconsulting.com] Inviato: mercoledì 8 dicembre 2010 7.09 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Spam Titan WOW! The license agreement seems very clear that the terms are Per CPU. Thats a lot different than per email address (or Per USER, for that matter). I guess I just dont understand all that legal mumbo jumbo. Thanks, Bill! I found your post very informative. -Roger From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam Titan I tried it for a bit but ran into problems with licensing that was a headache for our internal small deployment. I bought what they referred to as a fifty user license...but what they really mean is email addresses. So if you have multiple distribution group email addresses those will count also. And if you have a domain that you don't want to do LDAP lookups against, then be prepared for every email address to that domain to eat up a user license. This was really annoying because I wanted to also push my personal domain email through it and let it just filter and forward to the mail server. But because I didn't use ldap on that domain it would eat up licensing. But the really, really annoying thing was that when you exceeded licensing it would eventually completely lock you out of the management interface and stop sending quarantine emails until you contacted the company. Bill Ralph Smith wrote: I've been using it for a few years now, running the downloadable vmware version. I've had very good success with it - very few false positives, almost nothing gets through that shouldn't. Easy interface for users to manage their white and block lists, as well as searching their quarantine. For me, once I got it set up it just runs and I harldy ever mess with it. One thing you can't do is teach it by submitting false negatives, but it hasn't been a problem since we get so few. There was a review in WinIT Pro magazine recently if you are interested. http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/messaging/Review-SpamTitan.aspx _ From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Spam Titan Anyone have any experience with Spam Titan? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Spam Titan
Interesting. Having only one domain and a very simple setup, generally just one email address per user, I just didn't run into any of these issues. Good input. From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam Titan I tried it for a bit but ran into problems with licensing that was a headache for our internal small deployment. I bought what they referred to as a fifty user license...but what they really mean is email addresses. So if you have multiple distribution group email addresses those will count also. And if you have a domain that you don't want to do LDAP lookups against, then be prepared for every email address to that domain to eat up a user license. This was really annoying because I wanted to also push my personal domain email through it and let it just filter and forward to the mail server. But because I didn't use ldap on that domain it would eat up licensing. But the really, really annoying thing was that when you exceeded licensing it would eventually completely lock you out of the management interface and stop sending quarantine emails until you contacted the company. Bill Ralph Smith wrote: I've been using it for a few years now, running the downloadable vmware version. I've had very good success with it - very few false positives, almost nothing gets through that shouldn't. Easy interface for users to manage their white and block lists, as well as searching their quarantine. For me, once I got it set up it just runs and I harldy ever mess with it. One thing you can't do is teach it by submitting false negatives, but it hasn't been a problem since we get so few. There was a review in WinIT Pro magazine recently if you are interested. http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/messaging/Review-SpamTitan.aspx From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Spam Titan Anyone have any experience with Spam Titan? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential inf ormation and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is add ressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyon e other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not t he intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Spam Titan
Bill, what did you end up using instead? I am not finding many options cheaper than SpamTitan. It is around one tenth of the price of our current solution. I have 4,000 Exchange mailboxes and SpamTitan is showing a max of 2,100 so I must have a lot of people who don't use Internet e-mail. From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Spam Titan Interesting. Having only one domain and a very simple setup, generally just one email address per user, I just didn't run into any of these issues. Good input. From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam Titan I tried it for a bit but ran into problems with licensing that was a headache for our internal small deployment. I bought what they referred to as a fifty user license...but what they really mean is email addresses. So if you have multiple distribution group email addresses those will count also. And if you have a domain that you don't want to do LDAP lookups against, then be prepared for every email address to that domain to eat up a user license. This was really annoying because I wanted to also push my personal domain email through it and let it just filter and forward to the mail server. But because I didn't use ldap on that domain it would eat up licensing. But the really, really annoying thing was that when you exceeded licensing it would eventually completely lock you out of the management interface and stop sending quarantine emails until you contacted the company. Bill Ralph Smith wrote: I've been using it for a few years now, running the downloadable vmware version. I've had very good success with it - very few false positives, almost nothing gets through that shouldn't. Easy interface for users to manage their white and block lists, as well as searching their quarantine. For me, once I got it set up it just runs and I harldy ever mess with it. One thing you can't do is teach it by submitting false negatives, but it hasn't been a problem since we get so few. There was a review in WinIT Pro magazine recently if you are interested. http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/messaging/Review-SpamTitan.aspx From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Spam Titan Anyone have any experience with Spam Titan? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Spam Titan
Have you checked into untangle? I'm no Linux guru but it was pretty easy to setup and get going for my evaluation. http://www.untangle.com/spam-blocker Roger Wright ___ Never make hard what you can make easy. - Fred W. Frailey On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Osborne, Richard richard.osbo...@wth.orgwrote: Bill, what did you end up using instead? I am not finding many options cheaper than SpamTitan. It is around one tenth of the price of our current solution. I have 4,000 Exchange mailboxes and SpamTitan is showing a max of 2,100 so I must have a lot of people who don’t use Internet e-mail. *From:* Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:50 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Spam Titan Interesting. Having only one domain and a very simple setup, generally just one email address per user, I just didn’t run into any of these issues. Good input. -- *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:29 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Spam Titan I tried it for a bit but ran into problems with licensing that was a headache for our internal small deployment. I bought what they referred to as a fifty user license...but what they really mean is email addresses. So if you have multiple distribution group email addresses those will count also. And if you have a domain that you don't want to do LDAP lookups against, then be prepared for every email address to that domain to eat up a user license. This was really annoying because I wanted to also push my personal domain email through it and let it just filter and forward to the mail server. But because I didn't use ldap on that domain it would eat up licensing. But the really, really annoying thing was that when you exceeded licensing it would eventually completely lock you out of the management interface and stop sending quarantine emails until you contacted the company. Bill Ralph Smith wrote: I've been using it for a few years now, running the downloadable vmware version. I've had very good success with it - very few false positives, almost nothing gets through that shouldn't. Easy interface for users to manage their white and block lists, as well as searching their quarantine. For me, once I got it set up it just runs and I harldy ever mess with it. One thing you can't do is teach it by submitting false negatives, but it hasn't been a problem since we get so few. There was a review in WinIT Pro magazine recently if you are interested. http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/messaging/Review-SpamTitan.aspx -- *From:* Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com sh...@wrightbg.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:20 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Spam Titan Anyone have any experience with Spam Titan? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist *Confidentiality Notice:* *This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message.* --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist * * *Confidentiality Notice:* *This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message.* --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http
RE: Spam Titan
We tried Untangle but found it couldn't handle our load and reporting and customizing options were very limited. It is very much a black box. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam Titan Have you checked into untangle? I'm no Linux guru but it was pretty easy to setup and get going for my evaluation. http://www.untangle.com/spam-blocker Roger Wright ___ Never make hard what you can make easy. - Fred W. Frailey On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Osborne, Richard richard.osbo...@wth.org wrote: Bill, what did you end up using instead? I am not finding many options cheaper than SpamTitan. It is around one tenth of the price of our current solution. I have 4,000 Exchange mailboxes and SpamTitan is showing a max of 2,100 so I must have a lot of people who don't use Internet e-mail. From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Spam Titan Interesting. Having only one domain and a very simple setup, generally just one email address per user, I just didn't run into any of these issues. Good input. From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam Titan I tried it for a bit but ran into problems with licensing that was a headache for our internal small deployment. I bought what they referred to as a fifty user license...but what they really mean is email addresses. So if you have multiple distribution group email addresses those will count also. And if you have a domain that you don't want to do LDAP lookups against, then be prepared for every email address to that domain to eat up a user license. This was really annoying because I wanted to also push my personal domain email through it and let it just filter and forward to the mail server. But because I didn't use ldap on that domain it would eat up licensing. But the really, really annoying thing was that when you exceeded licensing it would eventually completely lock you out of the management interface and stop sending quarantine emails until you contacted the company. Bill Ralph Smith wrote: I've been using it for a few years now, running the downloadable vmware version. I've had very good success with it - very few false positives, almost nothing gets through that shouldn't. Easy interface for users to manage their white and block lists, as well as searching their quarantine. For me, once I got it set up it just runs and I harldy ever mess with it. One thing you can't do is teach it by submitting false negatives, but it hasn't been a problem since we get so few. There was a review in WinIT Pro magazine recently if you are interested. http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/messaging/Review-SpamTitan.aspx From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Spam Titan Anyone have any experience with Spam Titan? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt
Re: Spam Titan
yeah, price was one of the obvious reasons for trying spam titan. we have a mix of barracuda and sonicwall email security (formerly mailfrontier). the barracuda appliance licensing (not per-user) is pretty affordable. the one caveat with them is that your software energize updates you purchase do not include any support for hardware failure...they want you to pay extra for hardware repair/replacement. we had one barracuda 400 appliance that received a million messages a day with about 5k of those being legitimate. it handled it well. Bill Osborne, Richard wrote: Bill, what did you end up using instead? I am not finding many options cheaper than SpamTitan. It is around one tenth of the price of our current solution. I have 4,000 Exchange mailboxes and SpamTitan is showing a max of 2,100 so I must have a lot of people who don’t use Internet e-mail. *From:* Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:50 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Spam Titan Interesting. Having only one domain and a very simple setup, generally just one email address per user, I just didn’t run into any of these issues. Good input. *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:29 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Spam Titan I tried it for a bit but ran into problems with licensing that was a headache for our internal small deployment. I bought what they referred to as a fifty user license...but what they really mean is email addresses. So if you have multiple distribution group email addresses those will count also. And if you have a domain that you don't want to do LDAP lookups against, then be prepared for every email address to that domain to eat up a user license. This was really annoying because I wanted to also push my personal domain email through it and let it just filter and forward to the mail server. But because I didn't use ldap on that domain it would eat up licensing. But the really, really annoying thing was that when you exceeded licensing it would eventually completely lock you out of the management interface and stop sending quarantine emails until you contacted the company. Bill Ralph Smith wrote: I've been using it for a few years now, running the downloadable vmware version. I've had very good success with it - very few false positives, almost nothing gets through that shouldn't. Easy interface for users to manage their white and block lists, as well as searching their quarantine. For me, once I got it set up it just runs and I harldy ever mess with it. One thing you can't do is teach it by submitting false negatives, but it hasn't been a problem since we get so few. There was a review in WinIT Pro magazine recently if you are interested. http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/messaging/Review-SpamTitan.aspx *From:* Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:20 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Spam Titan Anyone have any experience with Spam Titan? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist *Confidentiality Notice:* *This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message.* --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist * * *Confidentiality Notice:* *This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message.* --- To manage subscriptions click here: http
RE: Spam Titan
Depending on what you want the product to do, I continue to have very good success with a product called Vamsoft ORF. It doesn't filter based on the content, but where the messages are coming from, using directory harvest detection, blacklists (if you like), recipient validation and a honey pot. I deployed it on one client who is now receiving in excess of 1 million messages a day, which it process, less than 7,000 are legitimate. That is almost a rounding error for 100% spam. Screenshot of the numbers from last year, showing just 700,000 a day. http://blog.sembee.co.uk/post/Truly-Spectacular-Results-from-Vamsoft-ORF.aspx I have repeated the effectiveness of that product on multiple sites. With that particularly client, we are now using a dedicated SQL database and two Windows 2003 servers as SMTP gateways. The licences were going spare following a recent upgrade. Running in three virtual machines. When it went live, the users noticed and actually called the support team to ask if email was working correctly, as it cut the spam off with immediate effect. For something costing less than $250, it paid for itself very quickly in the reduction in the bandwidth that was required to process the messages. However as with all anti-spam solutions, what works for site A, may not work for site B. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $26.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: 08 December 2010 17:30 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam Titan yeah, price was one of the obvious reasons for trying spam titan. we have a mix of barracuda and sonicwall email security (formerly mailfrontier). the barracuda appliance licensing (not per-user) is pretty affordable. the one caveat with them is that your software energize updates you purchase do not include any support for hardware failure...they want you to pay extra for hardware repair/replacement. we had one barracuda 400 appliance that received a million messages a day with about 5k of those being legitimate. it handled it well. Bill Osborne, Richard wrote: Bill, what did you end up using instead? I am not finding many options cheaper than SpamTitan. It is around one tenth of the price of our current solution. I have 4,000 Exchange mailboxes and SpamTitan is showing a max of 2,100 so I must have a lot of people who don't use Internet e-mail. *From:* Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:50 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Spam Titan Interesting. Having only one domain and a very simple setup, generally just one email address per user, I just didn't run into any of these issues. Good input. *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:29 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Spam Titan I tried it for a bit but ran into problems with licensing that was a headache for our internal small deployment. I bought what they referred to as a fifty user license...but what they really mean is email addresses. So if you have multiple distribution group email addresses those will count also. And if you have a domain that you don't want to do LDAP lookups against, then be prepared for every email address to that domain to eat up a user license. This was really annoying because I wanted to also push my personal domain email through it and let it just filter and forward to the mail server. But because I didn't use ldap on that domain it would eat up licensing. But the really, really annoying thing was that when you exceeded licensing it would eventually completely lock you out of the management interface and stop sending quarantine emails until you contacted the company. Bill Ralph Smith wrote: I've been using it for a few years now, running the downloadable vmware version. I've had very good success with it - very few false positives, almost nothing gets through that shouldn't. Easy interface for users to manage their white and block lists, as well as searching their quarantine. For me, once I got it set up it just runs and I harldy ever mess with it. One thing you can't do is teach it by submitting false negatives, but it hasn't been a problem since we get so few. There was a review in WinIT Pro magazine recently if you are interested. http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/messaging/Review-SpamTitan.aspx
Spam Titan
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RE: Spam Titan
I have been demo'ing it for a few weeks now. I'm pretty impressed with the large amount of tweakable options, good searching reporting, and low price. -- From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Spam Titan Anyone have any experience with Spam Titan? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Spam Titan
I've been using it for a few years now, running the downloadable vmware version. I've had very good success with it - very few false positives, almost nothing gets through that shouldn't. Easy interface for users to manage their white and block lists, as well as searching their quarantine. For me, once I got it set up it just runs and I harldy ever mess with it. One thing you can't do is teach it by submitting false negatives, but it hasn't been a problem since we get so few. There was a review in WinIT Pro magazine recently if you are interested. http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/messaging/Review-SpamTitan.aspx From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Spam Titan Anyone have any experience with Spam Titan? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential inf ormation and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is add ressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyon e other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not t he intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Spam Titan
I tried it for a bit but ran into problems with licensing that was a headache for our internal small deployment. I bought what they referred to as a fifty user license...but what they really mean is email addresses. So if you have multiple distribution group email addresses those will count also. And if you have a domain that you don't want to do LDAP lookups against, then be prepared for every email address to that domain to eat up a user license. This was really annoying because I wanted to also push my personal domain email through it and let it just filter and forward to the mail server. But because I didn't use ldap on that domain it would eat up licensing. But the really, really annoying thing was that when you exceeded licensing it would eventually completely lock you out of the management interface and stop sending quarantine emails until you contacted the company. Bill Ralph Smith wrote: I've been using it for a few years now, running the downloadable vmware version. I've had very good success with it - very few false positives, almost nothing gets through that shouldn't. Easy interface for users to manage their white and block lists, as well as searching their quarantine. For me, once I got it set up it just runs and I harldy ever mess with it. One thing you can't do is teach it by submitting false negatives, but it hasn't been a problem since we get so few. There was a review in WinIT Pro magazine recently if you are interested. http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/messaging/Review-SpamTitan.aspx *From:* Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:20 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Spam Titan Anyone have any experience with Spam Titan? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist * * *Confidentiality Notice:* *This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message.* --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Spam Titan
WOW! The license agreement seems very clear that the terms are Per CPU. That's a lot different than per email address (or Per USER, for that matter). I guess I just don't understand all that legal mumbo jumbo. Thanks, Bill! I found your post very informative. -Roger From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam Titan I tried it for a bit but ran into problems with licensing that was a headache for our internal small deployment. I bought what they referred to as a fifty user license...but what they really mean is email addresses. So if you have multiple distribution group email addresses those will count also. And if you have a domain that you don't want to do LDAP lookups against, then be prepared for every email address to that domain to eat up a user license. This was really annoying because I wanted to also push my personal domain email through it and let it just filter and forward to the mail server. But because I didn't use ldap on that domain it would eat up licensing. But the really, really annoying thing was that when you exceeded licensing it would eventually completely lock you out of the management interface and stop sending quarantine emails until you contacted the company. Bill Ralph Smith wrote: I've been using it for a few years now, running the downloadable vmware version. I've had very good success with it - very few false positives, almost nothing gets through that shouldn't. Easy interface for users to manage their white and block lists, as well as searching their quarantine. For me, once I got it set up it just runs and I harldy ever mess with it. One thing you can't do is teach it by submitting false negatives, but it hasn't been a problem since we get so few. There was a review in WinIT Pro magazine recently if you are interested. http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/messaging/Review-SpamTitan.aspx _ From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Spam Titan Anyone have any experience with Spam Titan? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
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I didn't find any per CPU term visiting their site ; they start with 50 users GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Roger Scudder [mailto:r...@scudderconsulting.com] Inviato: mercoledì 8 dicembre 2010 7.09 A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Spam Titan WOW! The license agreement seems very clear that the terms are Per CPU. That's a lot different than per email address (or Per USER, for that matter). I guess I just don't understand all that legal mumbo jumbo. Thanks, Bill! I found your post very informative. -Roger From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Spam Titan I tried it for a bit but ran into problems with licensing that was a headache for our internal small deployment. I bought what they referred to as a fifty user license...but what they really mean is email addresses. So if you have multiple distribution group email addresses those will count also. And if you have a domain that you don't want to do LDAP lookups against, then be prepared for every email address to that domain to eat up a user license. This was really annoying because I wanted to also push my personal domain email through it and let it just filter and forward to the mail server. But because I didn't use ldap on that domain it would eat up licensing. But the really, really annoying thing was that when you exceeded licensing it would eventually completely lock you out of the management interface and stop sending quarantine emails until you contacted the company. Bill Ralph Smith wrote: I've been using it for a few years now, running the downloadable vmware version. I've had very good success with it - very few false positives, almost nothing gets through that shouldn't. Easy interface for users to manage their white and block lists, as well as searching their quarantine. For me, once I got it set up it just runs and I harldy ever mess with it. One thing you can't do is teach it by submitting false negatives, but it hasn't been a problem since we get so few. There was a review in WinIT Pro magazine recently if you are interested. http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/messaging/Review-SpamTitan.aspx _ From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Spam Titan Anyone have any experience with Spam Titan? --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by an yone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are no t the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete a nd destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
