Making the switch from Exchange 2007 to 2010?
We are going to switch client access over from Exchange 2007 to 2010 tonight. All of the certs are in place (SAN cert with legacy) and I believe I got a decent handle on the DNS and virtual directory changes that need to happen. Below is an excerpt of a doc I found online. My question is... Is it necessary to disable Outlook Anywhere on the 2007 CAS servers? Or do I just need to change the virtual directories to point to legacy? If there any other gotchas you can think of please feel free to post them as well. Thanks, -Andy Leedy Next, we need to disable Outlook Anywhere on the Exchange 2007 Server: 1. Logon to the Exchange 2007 Client Access Server, navigate to the Server Configuration, and select Client Access Server. Select the 2007CASHUB Server and, in the Actions Pane, select Disable Outlook Anywhere; 2. Follow the wizard to disable Outlook Anywhere; 3. It is also possible to use the Exchange Management Shell to complete this action by entering the following command: Disable-OutlookAnywhere -Server 2007CASHUB At this stage, the Exchange 2007 Client Access Server needs to be reconfigured, so that legacy mailboxes on Exchange 2007 are still connected to the appropriate URL during the coexistence phase. To do this, logon to the Exchange 2007 Client Access Server, open the Exchange Management Shell, and enter the following commands: Set-OWAVirtualDirectory -Id 2007CASHUB\OWA* -ExternalURL https://legacy.inframan.nl/owa Set-OABVirtualDirectory -Id 2007CASHUB\OAB* -ExternalURL https://legacy.inframan.nl/OAB Set-UMVirtualDirectory -Id 2007CASHUB\Unified* -ExternalURL https://legacy.inframan.nl/UnifiedMessaging/Service.asmx Set-WebServicesVirtualDirectory -Id 2007CASHUB\EWS* -ExternalURL https://legacy.inframan.nl/ews/exchange.asmx Set-ActiveSyncVirtualDirectory -Id 2007CASHUB\Microsoft* -ExternalURL https://legacy.inframan.nl/Microsoft-Server-ActiveSync ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Schein Animal Health ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: Making the switch from Exchange 2007 to 2010?
Exchange 2010 will handle Outlook anywhere clients and proxy the requests to the 2007 mailbox server. So, without any other knowledge or experience (a dangerous thing sometimes!) I'd say you don't need to disable it. Considerations for disabling it include potential resource savings on the 2007 servers and if there is a problem with it being in coexistence. This is Microsoft's official guide to the process: http://blogs.technet.com/b/exchange/archive/2009/11/20/3408856.aspx It too says disable Outlook Anywhere but doesn't say why. To be honest, you're probably just better off doing it :) From: bounce-9329593-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9329593-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Leedy, Andy Sent: 04 May 2011 17:10 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Making the switch from Exchange 2007 to 2010? We are going to switch client access over from Exchange 2007 to 2010 tonight. All of the certs are in place (SAN cert with legacy) and I believe I got a decent handle on the DNS and virtual directory changes that need to happen. Below is an excerpt of a doc I found online. My question is... Is it necessary to disable Outlook Anywhere on the 2007 CAS servers? Or do I just need to change the virtual directories to point to legacy? If there any other gotchas you can think of please feel free to post them as well. Thanks, -Andy Leedy Next, we need to disable Outlook Anywhere on the Exchange 2007 Server: 1. Logon to the Exchange 2007 Client Access Server, navigate to the Server Configuration, and select Client Access Server. Select the 2007CASHUB Server and, in the Actions Pane, select Disable Outlook Anywhere; 2. Follow the wizard to disable Outlook Anywhere; 3. It is also possible to use the Exchange Management Shell to complete this action by entering the following command: Disable-OutlookAnywhere -Server 2007CASHUB At this stage, the Exchange 2007 Client Access Server needs to be reconfigured, so that legacy mailboxes on Exchange 2007 are still connected to the appropriate URL during the coexistence phase. To do this, logon to the Exchange 2007 Client Access Server, open the Exchange Management Shell, and enter the following commands: Set-OWAVirtualDirectory -Id 2007CASHUB\OWA* -ExternalURL https://legacy.inframan.nl/owa Set-OABVirtualDirectory -Id 2007CASHUB\OAB* -ExternalURL https://legacy.inframan.nl/OAB Set-UMVirtualDirectory -Id 2007CASHUB\Unified* -ExternalURL https://legacy.inframan.nl/UnifiedMessaging/Service.asmx Set-WebServicesVirtualDirectory -Id 2007CASHUB\EWS* -ExternalURL https://legacy.inframan.nl/ews/exchange.asmx Set-ActiveSyncVirtualDirectory -Id 2007CASHUB\Microsoft* -ExternalURL https://legacy.inframan.nl/Microsoft-Server-ActiveSync ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Schein Animal Health ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Switch to Exchange?
Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
In my experience it would not be a good idea to run Exchange on this setup. You always want Exchange on its own separate server. You may want to look at a hosted solution such as mailstreet (www.mailstreet.com) Here is a great listing of others as well: http://www.msexchange.org/services/Exchange-Hosting/ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. www.numberall.com http://www.numberall.com/ PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
If you really need Exchange and only have 10 users I would look at a hosted solution, there's a lot out there and they could handle your BB's also. We were an Mdaemon shop also until we got to about 100 users and needed Exchange for work flow routing etc with our ERP. I still use Mdaemon as a secondary Gateway behind our Barracuda for spam/virus detection. For a couple hundred $$/year it makes a great secondary gateway scanner and backup if the primary were to ever fail. From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. www.numberall.com http://www.numberall.com/ PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
What kind of connection speed do you need for users to have an enjoyable Outlook experience with a hosted solution? To me that seems like the biggest hangup with hosted. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? In my experience it would not be a good idea to run Exchange on this setup. You always want Exchange on its own separate server. You may want to look at a hosted solution such as mailstreet (www.mailstreet.com) Here is a great listing of others as well: http://www.msexchange.org/services/Exchange-Hosting/ _ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
I would call MailStreet and ask for some references to get this question answered. They have a great website w/ demos and a ton of info on there. From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? What kind of connection speed do you need for users to have an enjoyable Outlook experience with a hosted solution? To me that seems like the biggest hangup with hosted. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. www.numberall.com http://www.numberall.com/ PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? In my experience it would not be a good idea to run Exchange on this setup. You always want Exchange on its own separate server. You may want to look at a hosted solution such as mailstreet (www.mailstreet.com) Here is a great listing of others as well: http://www.msexchange.org/services/Exchange-Hosting/ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. www.numberall.com http://www.numberall.com/ PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
With 10 users, I know what I would be looking at - Small Business Server. For the cost of a full Exchange 2007 license and the CALs you could probably have a completely new system to run SBS. Buy it with Software Assurance as SBS 2008 is due very shortly (RTM last week). Then install BES on your existing machine where it can use the SQL server. If you are still looking at a hosted solution, as long as you use cached mode, most xDSL type connections will be fine. I have run more than 20 users on a regular 4mb xDSL (256k up) without any problems. The initial setup when you import your existing mail is the only slight headache. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Amset IT Solutions Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.amset.co.uk w: www.amset.info Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2008 15:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? What kind of connection speed do you need for users to have an enjoyable Outlook experience with a hosted solution? To me that seems like the biggest hangup with hosted. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. www.numberall.comhttp://www.numberall.com/ PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.nethttp://www.numberall.net/ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? In my experience it would not be a good idea to run Exchange on this setup. You always want Exchange on its own separate server. You may want to look at a hosted solution such as mailstreet (www.mailstreet.comhttp://www.mailstreet.com) Here is a great listing of others as well: http://www.msexchange.org/services/Exchange-Hosting/ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.comhttp://www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. www.numberall.comhttp://www.numberall.com/ PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.nethttp://www.numberall.net/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
What kind of connection speed do you need for users to have an enjoyable Outlook experience with a hosted solution? Outlook 2003 SP3 or 2007 SP1 set in cached mode work just fine over dialup after the initial sync. It's certainly fine over DSL/Cable and VPN. Be aware of large file attachments...do your users use email instead of shared folders to send files to each other? Address this non-optimal behavior beforehand as the large file will be traversing the WAN connection twice in addition to the inefficiencies of MIME encoding binary files. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
Hi Simon, Thanks for the info. You've given me another option I'll have to seriously look at. Also thanks for the input on connection speeds. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? With 10 users, I know what I would be looking at - Small Business Server. For the cost of a full Exchange 2007 license and the CALs you could probably have a completely new system to run SBS. Buy it with Software Assurance as SBS 2008 is due very shortly (RTM last week). Then install BES on your existing machine where it can use the SQL server. If you are still looking at a hosted solution, as long as you use cached mode, most xDSL type connections will be fine. I have run more than 20 users on a regular 4mb xDSL (256k up) without any problems. The initial setup when you import your existing mail is the only slight headache. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Amset IT Solutions Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.amset.co.uk w: www.amset.info Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ _ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2008 15:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? What kind of connection speed do you need for users to have an enjoyable Outlook experience with a hosted solution? To me that seems like the biggest hangup with hosted. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? In my experience it would not be a good idea to run Exchange on this setup. You always want Exchange on its own separate server. You may want to look at a hosted solution such as mailstreet (www.mailstreet.com) Here is a great listing of others as well: http://www.msexchange.org/services/Exchange-Hosting/ _ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
Thanks for answering. I really like Mdaemon, so if I can I would like to keep it. So your input on the number of users is helpful. -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? If you really need Exchange and only have 10 users I would look at a hosted solution, there's a lot out there and they could handle your BB's also. We were an Mdaemon shop also until we got to about 100 users and needed Exchange for work flow routing etc with our ERP. I still use Mdaemon as a secondary Gateway behind our Barracuda for spam/virus detection. For a couple hundred $$/year it makes a great secondary gateway scanner and backup if the primary were to ever fail. _ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Switch to Exchange?
Daniel, We've used SBS 2k3 for years and have recently put BES on it. It's worked great for us. We have about 70 users (most of whom are remote) and have had very few issues with connectivity or our server bogging down. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:14:11 AM Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? Hi Simon, Thanks for the info. You've given me another option I'll have to seriously look at. Also thanks for the input on connection speeds. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? With 10 users, I know what I would be looking at - Small Business Server. For the cost of a full Exchange 2007 license and the CALs you could probably have a completely new system to run SBS. Buy it with Software Assurance as SBS 2008 is due very shortly (RTM last week). Then install BES on your existing machine where it can use the SQL server. If you are still looking at a hosted solution, as long as you use cached mode, most xDSL type connections will be fine. I have run more than 20 users on a regular 4mb xDSL (256k up) without any problems. The initial setup when you import your existing mail is the only slight headache. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Amset IT Solutions Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.amset.co.uk w: www.amset.info Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2008 15:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? What kind of connection speed do you need for users to have an enjoyable Outlook experience with a hosted solution? To me that seems like the biggest hangup with hosted. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? In my experience it would not be a good idea to run Exchange on this setup. You always want Exchange on its own separate server. You may want to look at a hosted solution such as mailstreet (www.mailstreet.com) Here is a great listing of others as well: http://www.msexchange.org/services/Exchange-Hosting/ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com. I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Switch to Exchange?
Hi BJ, Thanks, it's good to hear it's doable! Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: King's Kid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Switch to Exchange? Daniel, We've used SBS 2k3 for years and have recently put BES on it. It's worked great for us. We have about 70 users (most of whom are remote) and have had very few issues with connectivity or our server bogging down. BJ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:14:11 AM Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? Hi Simon, Thanks for the info. You've given me another option I'll have to seriously look at. Also thanks for the input on connection speeds. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: Simon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? With 10 users, I know what I would be looking at - Small Business Server. For the cost of a full Exchange 2007 license and the CALs you could probably have a completely new system to run SBS. Buy it with Software Assurance as SBS 2008 is due very shortly (RTM last week). Then install BES on your existing machine where it can use the SQL server. If you are still looking at a hosted solution, as long as you use cached mode, most xDSL type connections will be fine. I have run more than 20 users on a regular 4mb xDSL (256k up) without any problems. The initial setup when you import your existing mail is the only slight headache. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Amset IT Solutions Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.amset.co.uk http://www.amset.co.uk/ w: www.amset.info http://www.amset.info/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ _ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2008 15:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? What kind of connection speed do you need for users to have an enjoyable Outlook experience with a hosted solution? To me that seems like the biggest hangup with hosted. Daniel -- Daniel Bayerdorffer, VP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numberall Stamp Tool Co., Inc. http://www.numberall.com/ www.numberall.com PO Box 187, Sangerville, ME 04479 USA TEL: 207-876-3541 FAX: 207-876-3566 Marked in Metal Blog: www.numberall.net http://www.numberall.net/ _ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Switch to Exchange? In my experience it would not be a good idea to run Exchange on this setup. You always want Exchange on its own separate server. You may want to look at a hosted solution such as mailstreet (www.mailstreet.com http://www.mailstreet.com/ ) Here is a great listing of others as well: http://www.msexchange.org/services/Exchange-Hosting/ _ From: Daniel Bayerdorffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Switch to Exchange? Hello everyone, Right now I'm using Mdaemon by www.altn.com http://www.altn.com/ . I'm very happy with it, but I'm starting to need some features it does not provide very easily. We are a small company with about 10 email clients. Myself and another user have Blackberries and I want to use the Blackberry Professional Software (a smaller version of the Blackberry Enterprise Software) to run our email and manage them with. I'm starting to look at Exchange, and it's looking like overkill for what we need. I'm willing to live with that, but I want to know if it will hog all the resources on my server. I have a Win2k3 SP2 x64 server with two opteron CPU's and 4 Gig of ram. It is also running SQL Server 2005 x64 and some other smaller programs. Right now I would say I'm using about a 1/3 of it's resources. Can someone please tell me if I'm going to kill my server with this setup, or any other issues I should be considering? Thanks, Daniel
