Re: databse currpted

2008-10-13 Thread Nirav Doshi
Dear All

Thanks everybody for giving a reply. I have solved that problem. I know my 
problem was not descriptive that why you people are not able to understand. i 
know its my misteke  i will sure improve it.
again thanks for your reply.
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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-10 Thread Nirav Doshi
I have already export all the mailbox into pst file. i dsmount the store  copy 
edb stm file  rename it  mount the database so blank database were mounted. 
Now i import the mail box throught exmerge. weather this idea will work or not? 
Please tell me any thing i am doing wrong or i need to take any prevetive step?
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Re: databse currpted

2008-10-10 Thread Matt Moore
Why are you stuck on dismounting the store and copying?  No one said 
anything about dismounting or copying. Just call MS!


- Original Message - 
From: Nirav Doshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: databse currpted


I have already export all the mailbox into pst file. i dsmount the store  
copy edb stm file  rename it  mount the database so blank database were 
mounted. Now i import the mail box throught exmerge. weather this idea will 
work or not? Please tell me any thing i am doing wrong or i need to take 
any prevetive step?

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Re: databse currpted

2008-10-10 Thread Don Ely
The horse is dead, stop beating it...  :P  hehehehehehehehe

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Matt Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Why are you stuck on dismounting the store and copying?  No one said
 anything about dismounting or copying. Just call MS!

 - Original Message - From: Nirav Doshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 8:47 AM
 Subject: RE: databse currpted


 I have already export all the mailbox into pst file. i dsmount the store 
 copy edb stm file  rename it  mount the database so blank database were
 mounted. Now i import the mail box throught exmerge. weather this idea will
 work or not? Please tell me any thing i am doing wrong or i need to take any
 prevetive step?
 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~


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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
I always feel a little bit guilty about issues like this.

 

Ya gotta feel empathy, because it's obvious that the primary language of the
OP isn't English. The first couple of posts, you just have to wonder if he
didn't understand.

 

Eventually though, you realize that he just doesn't want help if it doesn't
fit his preconceived notions of the kind of help he wants.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

 

From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: databse currpted

 

The horse is dead, stop beating it...  :P  hehehehehehehehe

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Matt Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Why are you stuck on dismounting the store and copying?  No one said
anything about dismounting or copying. Just call MS!

- Original Message - From: Nirav Doshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: databse currpted

 

I have already export all the mailbox into pst file. i dsmount the store 
copy edb stm file  rename it  mount the database so blank database were
mounted. Now i import the mail box throught exmerge. weather this idea will
work or not? Please tell me any thing i am doing wrong or i need to take any
prevetive step?
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Re: databse currpted

2008-10-10 Thread Matt Moore
I'm pretty sure you're right.  Athough the underlying message (sometimes not so 
subtle) from most replies has been call MS.  Should have been a little 
clue.. English or not.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael B. Smith 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 10:40 AM
  Subject: RE: databse currpted


  I always feel a little bit guilty about issues like this.

   

  Ya gotta feel empathy, because it's obvious that the primary language of the 
OP isn't English. The first couple of posts, you just have to wonder if he 
didn't understand.

   

  Eventually though, you realize that he just doesn't want help if it doesn't 
fit his preconceived notions of the kind of help he wants.

   

  Regards,

   

  Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

  My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

  Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

   

  From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:17 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: databse currpted

   

  The horse is dead, stop beating it...  :P  hehehehehehehehe

  On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Matt Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Why are you stuck on dismounting the store and copying?  No one said anything 
about dismounting or copying. Just call MS!

  - Original Message - From: Nirav Doshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

  Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 8:47 AM
  Subject: RE: databse currpted

 

I have already export all the mailbox into pst file. i dsmount the store  
copy edb stm file  rename it  mount the database so blank database were 
mounted. Now i import the mail box throught exmerge. weather this idea will 
work or not? Please tell me any thing i am doing wrong or i need to take any 
prevetive step?
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Re: databse currpted

2008-10-10 Thread Don Ely
I agree with you totally...

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Michael B. Smith 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I always feel a little bit guilty about issues like this.



 Ya gotta feel empathy, because it's obvious that the primary language of
 the OP isn't English. The first couple of posts, you just have to wonder if
 he didn't understand.



 Eventually though, you realize that he just doesn't want help if it doesn't
 fit his preconceived notions of the kind of help he wants.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

 My blog: 
 http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michaelhttp://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael

 Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange



 *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Friday, October 10, 2008 1:17 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: databse currpted



 The horse is dead, stop beating it...  :P  hehehehehehehehe

 On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Matt Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Why are you stuck on dismounting the store and copying?  No one said
 anything about dismounting or copying. Just call MS!

 - Original Message - From: Nirav Doshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 8:47 AM
 Subject: RE: databse currpted



 I have already export all the mailbox into pst file. i dsmount the store 
 copy edb stm file  rename it  mount the database so blank database were
 mounted. Now i import the mail box throught exmerge. weather this idea will
 work or not? Please tell me any thing i am doing wrong or i need to take any
 prevetive step?
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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~



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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-09 Thread Schwartz, Jim
I have an idea. Call Microsoft.

-Original Message-
From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: re: databse currpted

just want to confirm that to overcome this issue i have one idea i.e
i dismount the store  i will copy priv1.edb file  priv1.stm file. Now i 
rename the both file with priv1_old.edb  priv1_old.stm file now i mount the 
database it will ask that you want to mount blank database say yes. now 
throught exmerge i can upload the mail box. 
just i want to know that weather this idea will work or not? 
i done in my test enviroment but i am not sure
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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-09 Thread Michael B. Smith
You didn't answer our questions for additional information. So, we are flying 
blind.

What you suggest below will create what is called a dial-tone database. That 
is - it'll be empty.

I don't know how you think you'll be able to extract the mailboxes in order to 
use exmerge to upload them. Seems to be a gaping hole in your plan.

So...like Mr. Schwartz suggested - your best bet is to call Microsoft.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

-Original Message-
From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: re: databse currpted

just want to confirm that to overcome this issue i have one idea i.e
i dismount the store  i will copy priv1.edb file  priv1.stm file. Now i 
rename the both file with priv1_old.edb  priv1_old.stm file now i mount the 
database it will ask that you want to mount blank database say yes. now 
throught exmerge i can upload the mail box. 
just i want to know that weather this idea will work or not? 
i done in my test enviroment but i am not sure
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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-09 Thread Matt Moore
No export all of the mailboxes to pst files.  Create a new store. Delete the
old store.  Import the mailboxes.  Sounds like you should have ms on the
line when you do this.  It's a good idea if for no other reason than to
cover your rear.
M

-Original Message-
From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 10:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: re: databse currpted

just want to confirm that to overcome this issue i have one idea i.e
i dismount the store  i will copy priv1.edb file  priv1.stm file. Now i
rename the both file with priv1_old.edb  priv1_old.stm file now i mount the
database it will ask that you want to mount blank database say yes. now
throught exmerge i can upload the mail box. 
just i want to know that weather this idea will work or not? 
i done in my test enviroment but i am not sure
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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
Tell us EXACTLY what you have already tried to do.

The date of 7/22/08 is quite a ways in the past.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange


-Original Message-
From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: databse currpted

Dear All

we have sbs server 2003 with exchange 2003 sp2. backup was not happened last 
form 3 to 4 months. Now we are not able to take backup of the database  give 
below mentioned log.
Event Type:Error

Event Source:ESE

Event Category:Logging/Recovery 

Event ID:  217

Date: 7/22/2008

Time: 1:51:13 PM

User: N/A

Computer:  SRV01

Description:

Information Store (4248) First Storage Group: Error (-1018) during backup of a 
database (file E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb). The database will 
be unable to restore. 

 

For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.

we are also not able to repair the database.

any help will appriciate. Thanks in advance.

 


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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-08 Thread Sobey, Richard A
Do you have all the transaction logs safe from the time you DID do a full 
backup?

-Original Message-
From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 October 2008 13:39
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: databse currpted

Dear All

we have sbs server 2003 with exchange 2003 sp2. backup was not happened last 
form 3 to 4 months. Now we are not able to take backup of the database  give 
below mentioned log.
Event Type:Error

Event Source:ESE

Event Category:Logging/Recovery

Event ID:  217

Date: 7/22/2008

Time: 1:51:13 PM

User: N/A

Computer:  SRV01

Description:

Information Store (4248) First Storage Group: Error (-1018) during backup of a 
database (file E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb). The database will 
be unable to restore.



For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.

we are also not able to repair the database.

any help will appriciate. Thanks in advance.




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databse currpted

2008-10-08 Thread Nirav Doshi
Dear All

we have sbs server 2003 with exchange 2003 sp2. backup was not happened last 
form 3 to 4 months. Now we are not able to take backup of the database  give 
below mentioned log.
Event Type:Error

Event Source:ESE

Event Category:Logging/Recovery 

Event ID:  217

Date: 7/22/2008

Time: 1:51:13 PM

User: N/A

Computer:  SRV01

Description:

Information Store (4248) First Storage Group: Error (-1018) during backup of a 
database (file E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb). The database will 
be unable to restore. 

 

For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.

we are also not able to repair the database.

any help will appriciate. Thanks in advance.

 


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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-08 Thread Schwartz, Jim
I suggest that you call Microsoft. 

-Original Message-
From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: databse currpted

Dear All

we have sbs server 2003 with exchange 2003 sp2. backup was not happened last 
form 3 to 4 months. Now we are not able to take backup of the database  give 
below mentioned log.
Event Type:Error

Event Source:ESE

Event Category:Logging/Recovery 

Event ID:  217

Date: 7/22/2008

Time: 1:51:13 PM

User: N/A

Computer:  SRV01

Description:

Information Store (4248) First Storage Group: Error (-1018) during backup of a 
database (file E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb). The database will 
be unable to restore. 

 

For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.

we are also not able to repair the database.

any help will appriciate. Thanks in advance.

 


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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-08 Thread John Cook
Or Lucid8 (GoExchange)!  ;-)

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: databse currpted

I suggest that you call Microsoft.

-Original Message-
From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: databse currpted

Dear All

we have sbs server 2003 with exchange 2003 sp2. backup was not happened last 
form 3 to 4 months. Now we are not able to take backup of the database  give 
below mentioned log.
Event Type:Error

Event Source:ESE

Event Category:Logging/Recovery

Event ID:  217

Date: 7/22/2008

Time: 1:51:13 PM

User: N/A

Computer:  SRV01

Description:

Information Store (4248) First Storage Group: Error (-1018) during backup of a 
database (file E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb). The database will 
be unable to restore.



For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.

we are also not able to repair the database.

any help will appriciate. Thanks in advance.




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Re: databse currpted

2008-10-08 Thread Matt Moore
Export all mailboxes, create a new store and import  I was just in a 
similar bad spot, advice comes from MS, Chances of eseutil repairing with 
out significant data are nil.  No backup = Very bad place

M
- Original Message - 
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: databse currpted



Or Lucid8 (GoExchange)!  ;-)

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: databse currpted

I suggest that you call Microsoft.

-Original Message-
From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: databse currpted

Dear All

we have sbs server 2003 with exchange 2003 sp2. backup was not happened 
last form 3 to 4 months. Now we are not able to take backup of the 
database  give below mentioned log.

Event Type:Error

Event Source:ESE

Event Category:Logging/Recovery

Event ID:  217

Date: 7/22/2008

Time: 1:51:13 PM

User: N/A

Computer:  SRV01

Description:

Information Store (4248) First Storage Group: Error (-1018) during backup 
of a database (file E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb). The 
database will be unable to restore.




For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.

we are also not able to repair the database.

any help will appriciate. Thanks in advance.




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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
Troll.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: databse currpted

I was hoping to fan the flames from the MVPs, thanks for ruining my day!

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: databse currpted

Export all mailboxes, create a new store and import  I was just in a
similar bad spot, advice comes from MS, Chances of eseutil repairing with
out significant data are nil.  No backup = Very bad place
M
- Original Message -
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: databse currpted


 Or Lucid8 (GoExchange)!  ;-)

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fax (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:15 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: databse currpted

 I suggest that you call Microsoft.

 -Original Message-
 From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: databse currpted

 Dear All

 we have sbs server 2003 with exchange 2003 sp2. backup was not happened
 last form 3 to 4 months. Now we are not able to take backup of the
 database  give below mentioned log.
 Event Type:Error

 Event Source:ESE

 Event Category:Logging/Recovery

 Event ID:  217

 Date: 7/22/2008

 Time: 1:51:13 PM

 User: N/A

 Computer:  SRV01

 Description:

 Information Store (4248) First Storage Group: Error (-1018) during backup
 of a database (file E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb). The
 database will be unable to restore.



 For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.

 we are also not able to repair the database.

 any help will appriciate. Thanks in advance.




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Re: databse currpted

2008-10-08 Thread Don Ely
No use beating a dead horse...

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:11 AM, John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was hoping to fan the flames from the MVPs, thanks for ruining my day!

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fax (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:07 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: databse currpted

 Export all mailboxes, create a new store and import  I was just in
 a
 similar bad spot, advice comes from MS, Chances of eseutil repairing with
 out significant data are nil.  No backup = Very bad place
 M
 - Original Message -
 From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:26 AM
 Subject: RE: databse currpted


  Or Lucid8 (GoExchange)!  ;-)
 
  John W. Cook
  Systems Administrator
  Partnership For Strong Families
  315 SE 2nd Ave
  Gainesville, Fl 32601
  Office (352) 393-2741 x320
  Cell (352) 215-6944
  Fax (352) 393-2746
  MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:15 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: databse currpted
 
  I suggest that you call Microsoft.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: databse currpted
 
  Dear All
 
  we have sbs server 2003 with exchange 2003 sp2. backup was not happened
  last form 3 to 4 months. Now we are not able to take backup of the
  database  give below mentioned log.
  Event Type:Error
 
  Event Source:ESE
 
  Event Category:Logging/Recovery
 
  Event ID:  217
 
  Date: 7/22/2008
 
  Time: 1:51:13 PM
 
  User: N/A
 
  Computer:  SRV01
 
  Description:
 
  Information Store (4248) First Storage Group: Error (-1018) during backup
  of a database (file E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb). The
  database will be unable to restore.
 
 
 
  For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp
 .
 
  we are also not able to repair the database.
 
  any help will appriciate. Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
 
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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-08 Thread John Cook
I was hoping to fan the flames from the MVPs, thanks for ruining my day!

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: databse currpted

Export all mailboxes, create a new store and import  I was just in a
similar bad spot, advice comes from MS, Chances of eseutil repairing with
out significant data are nil.  No backup = Very bad place
M
- Original Message -
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: databse currpted


 Or Lucid8 (GoExchange)!  ;-)

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fax (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:15 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: databse currpted

 I suggest that you call Microsoft.

 -Original Message-
 From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: databse currpted

 Dear All

 we have sbs server 2003 with exchange 2003 sp2. backup was not happened
 last form 3 to 4 months. Now we are not able to take backup of the
 database  give below mentioned log.
 Event Type:Error

 Event Source:ESE

 Event Category:Logging/Recovery

 Event ID:  217

 Date: 7/22/2008

 Time: 1:51:13 PM

 User: N/A

 Computer:  SRV01

 Description:

 Information Store (4248) First Storage Group: Error (-1018) during backup
 of a database (file E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb). The
 database will be unable to restore.



 For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.

 we are also not able to repair the database.

 any help will appriciate. Thanks in advance.




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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-08 Thread John Cook
Just for that I'm going to heckle you at the Connections conference!

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: databse currpted

Troll.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: databse currpted

I was hoping to fan the flames from the MVPs, thanks for ruining my day!

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: databse currpted

Export all mailboxes, create a new store and import  I was just in a
similar bad spot, advice comes from MS, Chances of eseutil repairing with
out significant data are nil.  No backup = Very bad place
M
- Original Message -
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: databse currpted


 Or Lucid8 (GoExchange)!  ;-)

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fax (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:15 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: databse currpted

 I suggest that you call Microsoft.

 -Original Message-
 From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: databse currpted

 Dear All

 we have sbs server 2003 with exchange 2003 sp2. backup was not happened
 last form 3 to 4 months. Now we are not able to take backup of the
 database  give below mentioned log.
 Event Type:Error

 Event Source:ESE

 Event Category:Logging/Recovery

 Event ID:  217

 Date: 7/22/2008

 Time: 1:51:13 PM

 User: N/A

 Computer:  SRV01

 Description:

 Information Store (4248) First Storage Group: Error (-1018) during backup
 of a database (file E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb). The
 database will be unable to restore.



 For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.

 we are also not able to repair the database.

 any help will appriciate. Thanks in advance.




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RE: databse currpted

2008-10-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
I've already been promised that by a number of folks. sigh

That doesn't bode well for my speaker evaluation forms!

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:46 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: databse currpted

Just for that I'm going to heckle you at the Connections conference!

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: databse currpted

Troll.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: databse currpted

I was hoping to fan the flames from the MVPs, thanks for ruining my day!

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Matt Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: databse currpted

Export all mailboxes, create a new store and import  I was just in a
similar bad spot, advice comes from MS, Chances of eseutil repairing with
out significant data are nil.  No backup = Very bad place
M
- Original Message -
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: databse currpted


 Or Lucid8 (GoExchange)!  ;-)

 John W. Cook
 Systems Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fax (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 -Original Message-
 From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:15 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: databse currpted

 I suggest that you call Microsoft.

 -Original Message-
 From: Nirav Doshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: databse currpted

 Dear All

 we have sbs server 2003 with exchange 2003 sp2. backup was not happened
 last form 3 to 4 months. Now we are not able to take backup of the
 database  give below mentioned log.
 Event Type:Error

 Event Source:ESE

 Event Category:Logging/Recovery

 Event ID:  217

 Date: 7/22/2008

 Time: 1:51:13 PM

 User: N/A

 Computer:  SRV01

 Description:

 Information Store (4248) First Storage Group: Error (-1018) during backup
 of a database (file E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv1.edb). The
 database will be unable to restore.



 For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.

 we are also not able to repair the database.

 any help will appriciate. Thanks in advance.




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re: databse currpted

2008-10-08 Thread Nirav Doshi
just want to confirm that to overcome this issue i have one idea i.e
i dismount the store  i will copy priv1.edb file  priv1.stm file. Now i 
rename the both file with priv1_old.edb  priv1_old.stm file now i mount the 
database it will ask that you want to mount blank database say yes. now 
throught exmerge i can upload the mail box. 
just i want to know that weather this idea will work or not? 
i done in my test enviroment but i am not sure
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