RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010
Quest has a similar product and their pricing is even higher! -Original Message- From: Alice Goodman [mailto:ali...@mckinstry.com] Sent: July-06-10 8:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 I think we had it since 5.5 days so our pricing was probably better than getting a brand new license.. :) Alice -Original Message- From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 7:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 I guess it's a matter of opinion whether something is too expensive or not. I got a quote for our single server, 900 mailbox setup and it was over $6000. It's going to be very hard to justify for restoring a single mailbox! We might use it once or twice over a few years but it's still too much for something that you use so little. I think I'm going to keep looking... -Original Message- From: Alice Goodman [mailto:ali...@mckinstry.com] Sent: July-02-10 4:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 I have used Power Controls in a similar fashion as well when we still had data on E5.5 tapes and we were a 2003 production shop. It took me a few days to get it to work but I did succeed. You can get a 30 day eval from them and I did not find the cost prohibitive. Alice -Original Message- From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 That's an interesting option. I definitely have some research to do before pulling the plug on Exchange 2003! -Original Message- From: Rob Sargent [mailto:rbsr...@gmail.com] Sent: July-02-10 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: re: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 Quest’s Recovery Manager for Exchange can read the Exchange db right off the Networker backup tape without need of an Exchange server. It can save the mbx contents to a pst for importing into the ‘live’ mailbox. I’ll bet PowerControls can do the same. Quest’s details are here: http://www.quest.com/recovery-manager-for-exchange/features-benefits.aspx I’m not sure about pricing/licensing though. /Rob This email is the property of McKinstry or one of its affiliates and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. This email is the property of McKinstry or one of its affiliates and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010
I guess it's a matter of opinion whether something is too expensive or not. I got a quote for our single server, 900 mailbox setup and it was over $6000. It's going to be very hard to justify for restoring a single mailbox! We might use it once or twice over a few years but it's still too much for something that you use so little. I think I'm going to keep looking... -Original Message- From: Alice Goodman [mailto:ali...@mckinstry.com] Sent: July-02-10 4:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 I have used Power Controls in a similar fashion as well when we still had data on E5.5 tapes and we were a 2003 production shop. It took me a few days to get it to work but I did succeed. You can get a 30 day eval from them and I did not find the cost prohibitive. Alice -Original Message- From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 That's an interesting option. I definitely have some research to do before pulling the plug on Exchange 2003! -Original Message- From: Rob Sargent [mailto:rbsr...@gmail.com] Sent: July-02-10 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: re: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 Quest’s Recovery Manager for Exchange can read the Exchange db right off the Networker backup tape without need of an Exchange server. It can save the mbx contents to a pst for importing into the ‘live’ mailbox. I’ll bet PowerControls can do the same. Quest’s details are here: http://www.quest.com/recovery-manager-for-exchange/features-benefits.aspx I’m not sure about pricing/licensing though. /Rob This email is the property of McKinstry or one of its affiliates and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010
I think we had it since 5.5 days so our pricing was probably better than getting a brand new license.. :) Alice -Original Message- From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 7:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 I guess it's a matter of opinion whether something is too expensive or not. I got a quote for our single server, 900 mailbox setup and it was over $6000. It's going to be very hard to justify for restoring a single mailbox! We might use it once or twice over a few years but it's still too much for something that you use so little. I think I'm going to keep looking... -Original Message- From: Alice Goodman [mailto:ali...@mckinstry.com] Sent: July-02-10 4:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 I have used Power Controls in a similar fashion as well when we still had data on E5.5 tapes and we were a 2003 production shop. It took me a few days to get it to work but I did succeed. You can get a 30 day eval from them and I did not find the cost prohibitive. Alice -Original Message- From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 That's an interesting option. I definitely have some research to do before pulling the plug on Exchange 2003! -Original Message- From: Rob Sargent [mailto:rbsr...@gmail.com] Sent: July-02-10 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: re: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 Quest’s Recovery Manager for Exchange can read the Exchange db right off the Networker backup tape without need of an Exchange server. It can save the mbx contents to a pst for importing into the ‘live’ mailbox. I’ll bet PowerControls can do the same. Quest’s details are here: http://www.quest.com/recovery-manager-for-exchange/features-benefits.aspx I’m not sure about pricing/licensing though. /Rob This email is the property of McKinstry or one of its affiliates and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. This email is the property of McKinstry or one of its affiliates and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010
I don’t have any good answers for you. Unfortunately, the interface to the RSG is black magic. I’ve filed a half-dozen DCRs over the years trying to get more information about its API, with zero success. You are going to have to move the user back to their original SG and DB on the Exchange 2003 server – or use a third party tool (which is going to cost you money) such as OnTrack PowerControls. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 As luck would have it, we have a user who needs his mailbox restored from a few days before we moved his account from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2010. We’ve been able to restore the required storage group, but when we run Exmerge to extract the user’s mailbox into a PST file, it complains about permission problems. This link shows the error we’re getting, but the suggested remedies don’t really apply, although I did verify just in case. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322312 I think the cause of the problem is because the user no longer has a mailbox on the 2003 server. I don’t really want to move his mailbox back to 2003, plus I’m not even sure if it will solve the problem. Is there some other way to restore a legacy mailbox other than using Exmerge?
RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010
Then look at something like PowerControls. OnTrack isn’t the only vendor with this kind of utility (they are probably the most mature solution though). Quest, Lucid8, etc.etc. – there are probably 20 vendors that have a utility to read mailbox data from a raw database. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 That’s what I was afraid of. This whole issue puts a wrench into decommissioning our old Exchange server. We have a rule that old data such as user mailboxes must be recoverable from backup for at least 3 years. If we completely remove the Exchange 2003 server then that won’t be possible (assuming we can find a solution to the Exmerge problem). I think we’re going to have to just power off the Exchange server and complete the full decommissioning process at some time in the future. I *really* wanted to get rid of that old server… From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: July-02-10 3:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 I don’t have any good answers for you. Unfortunately, the interface to the RSG is black magic. I’ve filed a half-dozen DCRs over the years trying to get more information about its API, with zero success. You are going to have to move the user back to their original SG and DB on the Exchange 2003 server – or use a third party tool (which is going to cost you money) such as OnTrack PowerControls. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 As luck would have it, we have a user who needs his mailbox restored from a few days before we moved his account from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2010. We’ve been able to restore the required storage group, but when we run Exmerge to extract the user’s mailbox into a PST file, it complains about permission problems. This link shows the error we’re getting, but the suggested remedies don’t really apply, although I did verify just in case. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322312 I think the cause of the problem is because the user no longer has a mailbox on the 2003 server. I don’t really want to move his mailbox back to 2003, plus I’m not even sure if it will solve the problem. Is there some other way to restore a legacy mailbox other than using Exmerge?
RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010
That might solve part of the problem, but with our current backup software (Networker) we would have to have a working Exchange 2003 server in order to recover the Storage Groups… From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: July-02-10 3:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 Then look at something like PowerControls. OnTrack isn’t the only vendor with this kind of utility (they are probably the most mature solution though). Quest, Lucid8, etc.etc. – there are probably 20 vendors that have a utility to read mailbox data from a raw database. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 That’s what I was afraid of. This whole issue puts a wrench into decommissioning our old Exchange server. We have a rule that old data such as user mailboxes must be recoverable from backup for at least 3 years. If we completely remove the Exchange 2003 server then that won’t be possible (assuming we can find a solution to the Exmerge problem). I think we’re going to have to just power off the Exchange server and complete the full decommissioning process at some time in the future. I *really* wanted to get rid of that old server… From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: July-02-10 3:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 I don’t have any good answers for you. Unfortunately, the interface to the RSG is black magic. I’ve filed a half-dozen DCRs over the years trying to get more information about its API, with zero success. You are going to have to move the user back to their original SG and DB on the Exchange 2003 server – or use a third party tool (which is going to cost you money) such as OnTrack PowerControls. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 As luck would have it, we have a user who needs his mailbox restored from a few days before we moved his account from Exchange 2003 to Exchange 2010. We’ve been able to restore the required storage group, but when we run Exmerge to extract the user’s mailbox into a PST file, it complains about permission problems. This link shows the error we’re getting, but the suggested remedies don’t really apply, although I did verify just in case. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322312 I think the cause of the problem is because the user no longer has a mailbox on the 2003 server. I don’t really want to move his mailbox back to 2003, plus I’m not even sure if it will solve the problem. Is there some other way to restore a legacy mailbox other than using Exmerge?
re: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010
Quest’s Recovery Manager for Exchange can read the Exchange db right off the Networker backup tape without need of an Exchange server. It can save the mbx contents to a pst for importing into the ‘live’ mailbox. I’ll bet PowerControls can do the same. Quest’s details are here: http://www.quest.com/recovery-manager-for-exchange/features-benefits.aspx I’m not sure about pricing/licensing though. /Rob
RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010
That's an interesting option. I definitely have some research to do before pulling the plug on Exchange 2003! -Original Message- From: Rob Sargent [mailto:rbsr...@gmail.com] Sent: July-02-10 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: re: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 Quest’s Recovery Manager for Exchange can read the Exchange db right off the Networker backup tape without need of an Exchange server. It can save the mbx contents to a pst for importing into the ‘live’ mailbox. I’ll bet PowerControls can do the same. Quest’s details are here: http://www.quest.com/recovery-manager-for-exchange/features-benefits.aspx I’m not sure about pricing/licensing though. /Rob
RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010
I have used Power Controls in a similar fashion as well when we still had data on E5.5 tapes and we were a 2003 production shop. It took me a few days to get it to work but I did succeed. You can get a 30 day eval from them and I did not find the cost prohibitive. Alice -Original Message- From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 That's an interesting option. I definitely have some research to do before pulling the plug on Exchange 2003! -Original Message- From: Rob Sargent [mailto:rbsr...@gmail.com] Sent: July-02-10 4:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: re: Using Exmerge after migrating to 2010 Quest’s Recovery Manager for Exchange can read the Exchange db right off the Networker backup tape without need of an Exchange server. It can save the mbx contents to a pst for importing into the ‘live’ mailbox. I’ll bet PowerControls can do the same. Quest’s details are here: http://www.quest.com/recovery-manager-for-exchange/features-benefits.aspx I’m not sure about pricing/licensing though. /Rob This email is the property of McKinstry or one of its affiliates and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
