RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
Oh yuck! I can't write a decent batch file, now how in the world am I going to learn a totally new language like Powershell? John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems Forward Operating Base Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8001 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823 Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832 (The remainder of the signature line has been removed to keep from offending the politically correct) -Original Message- From: Ehren Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases Tis true, there was no scripting anywhere in any of the exams or classes. Now that everything weights heavily on powershell I think it would be good for them to have it in the 2008 track. Ehren J. Benson, MCSE Windows Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] 517-884-5469 -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases Being a script newbie... How do you actually execute that? You would use cscript.exe Ehren J. Benson, MCSE I haven't looked at MS certs in about 9-10 years but is it really true that little to no scripting is required? I think it would be kinda cool if they put in some powershell stuff in. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
I am a total scripting newb and I think powershell is cool. Its nowhere near as archaic as typical shell scripting. Ehren J. Benson, MCSE Windows Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] 517-884-5469 -Original Message- From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases Oh yuck! I can't write a decent batch file, now how in the world am I going to learn a totally new language like Powershell? John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems Forward Operating Base Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8001 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823 Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832 (The remainder of the signature line has been removed to keep from offending the politically correct) -Original Message- From: Ehren Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases Tis true, there was no scripting anywhere in any of the exams or classes. Now that everything weights heavily on powershell I think it would be good for them to have it in the 2008 track. Ehren J. Benson, MCSE Windows Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] 517-884-5469 -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases Being a script newbie... How do you actually execute that? You would use cscript.exe Ehren J. Benson, MCSE I haven't looked at MS certs in about 9-10 years but is it really true that little to no scripting is required? I think it would be kinda cool if they put in some powershell stuff in. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
Oh yuck! I can't write a decent batch file, now how in the world am I going to learn a totally new language like Powershell? Ah yes, the dos/cmd batch language, perhaps the only thing more obtuse and unforgiving than sql. I always seem to fall back on http://www.allenware.com/icsw/icswref.htm since I can never seem to remember what exact incantation of a for loop I'm supposed to type in ;) As for powershell? Well, besides the books and links posted in the recent past on this list I think that another interesting/productive route would be to learn a little of the Perl scripting language. http://www.activestate.com/ Powershell is *amazingly* similar to Perl, though going from Perl to Powershell is not as close as C to C++. Still, I think many would have some aha! moments if they did a few short sessions with Perl. Watch out though if you go this route. With Perl, it is easy to get sucked into a functional/procedural style of coding and Perl's regex implementation is addicting (Powershell has no ~=). Using regexes to modify data in the pipeline is NOT what you do in powershell. This is a mental obstacle for me to this very day, since I have a Perl background. Without discipline, Perl can also get very unstructured and hard to read. This is one area in which Powershell seriously trumps Perl and is much, much better. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
While I don't have anything against Perl, for an Exchange administrator rationalizing ways to avoid learning Powershell is not a good career move. IMHO. -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases Oh yuck! I can't write a decent batch file, now how in the world am I going to learn a totally new language like Powershell? Ah yes, the dos/cmd batch language, perhaps the only thing more obtuse and unforgiving than sql. I always seem to fall back on http://www.allenware.com/icsw/icswref.htm since I can never seem to remember what exact incantation of a for loop I'm supposed to type in ;) As for powershell? Well, besides the books and links posted in the recent past on this list I think that another interesting/productive route would be to learn a little of the Perl scripting language. http://www.activestate.com/ Powershell is *amazingly* similar to Perl, though going from Perl to Powershell is not as close as C to C++. Still, I think many would have some aha! moments if they did a few short sessions with Perl. Watch out though if you go this route. With Perl, it is easy to get sucked into a functional/procedural style of coding and Perl's regex implementation is addicting (Powershell has no ~=). Using regexes to modify data in the pipeline is NOT what you do in powershell. This is a mental obstacle for me to this very day, since I have a Perl background. Without discipline, Perl can also get very unstructured and hard to read. This is one area in which Powershell seriously trumps Perl and is much, much better. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
Sorry, my mistake. I haven't worked with Perl much, but it seems like it would be less confusing to just start with the basics of Powershell. -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases While I don't have anything against Perl, for an Exchange administrator rationalizing ways to avoid learning Powershell is not a good career move. You misread. I was recommending the learning of Perl as a pathway to picking up Powershell. In particular, getting ones head around $_ comes to mind. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
I haven't worked with Perl much, but it seems like it would be less confusing to just start with the basics of Powershell. Yea, it all depends on who's doing the learning. But, I am very happy to be coming at PS from more of the Perl side rather than the VBS side. The latter must truly be a nightmarish transition for those involved. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
I can agree with that. I never really learned VBS. Before Powershell came along, my favorite scripting language was REXX. -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases I haven't worked with Perl much, but it seems like it would be less confusing to just start with the basics of Powershell. Yea, it all depends on who's doing the learning. But, I am very happy to be coming at PS from more of the Perl side rather than the VBS side. The latter must truly be a nightmarish transition for those involved. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
Being a script newbie... How do you actually execute that? You would use cscript.exe Ehren J. Benson, MCSE I haven't looked at MS certs in about 9-10 years but is it really true that little to no scripting is required? I think it would be kinda cool if they put in some powershell stuff in. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
It's required for the Exchange certs and for the OpsMgr certs and for some of the Server 2008 certs. But only very basic stuff. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:EM/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases Being a script newbie... How do you actually execute that? You would use cscript.exe Ehren J. Benson, MCSE I haven't looked at MS certs in about 9-10 years but is it really true that little to no scripting is required? I think it would be kinda cool if they put in some powershell stuff in. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
Tis true, there was no scripting anywhere in any of the exams or classes. Now that everything weights heavily on powershell I think it would be good for them to have it in the 2008 track. Ehren J. Benson, MCSE Windows Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] 517-884-5469 -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases Being a script newbie... How do you actually execute that? You would use cscript.exe Ehren J. Benson, MCSE I haven't looked at MS certs in about 9-10 years but is it really true that little to no scripting is required? I think it would be kinda cool if they put in some powershell stuff in. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
Hello all - I'm googling away, but thought this group could save a lot of time - we need to get a list of non-default permissions given on Exchange servers (2k3 and 2k7,) and their storage groups and databases. No need to filter out the defaults, we just need to see a list - anyone have anything that will do this, please? Happy birthday all - my best friend's birthday is today - mine was 3 days ago - prompting his wife to say I was 3 days older than dirt :) ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
AD permissions? From: Russ Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
Actually, both AD Exchange would be cool (probably not in the same script) :) On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Campbell, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AD permissions? -- *From:* Russ Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, June 27, 2008 1:39 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
It's on my blog. Search on permissions. http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:EM/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Russ Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases Actually, both AD Exchange would be cool (probably not in the same script) :) On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Campbell, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AD permissions? _ From: Russ Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
I was searching your site as I got your mail - Thanks Michael! On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's on my blog. Search on permissions. http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:EM/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Russ Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, June 27, 2008 2:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases Actually, both AD Exchange would be cool (probably not in the same script) :) On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Campbell, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AD permissions? -- *From:* Russ Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, June 27, 2008 1:39 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
HI Michael - are you thinking of this ? http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/displaying-security-on-active-directory-exchange-and-registry-objects.aspx (Sent for anyone else who might be interested) On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's on my blog. Search on permissions. http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:EM/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Russ Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, June 27, 2008 2:52 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases Actually, both AD Exchange would be cool (probably not in the same script) :) On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Campbell, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AD permissions? -- *From:* Russ Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, June 27, 2008 1:39 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases
Being a script newbie... How do you actually execute that? Ehren J. Benson, MCSE Windows Systems Administrator Department of Physics and Astronomy Michigan State University 1209 A Biomed Phys Sci [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 517-884-5469 From: Russ Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases HI Michael - are you thinking of this ? http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2007/11/13/displaying-security-on-active-directory-exchange-and-registry-objects.aspx (Sent for anyone else who might be interested) On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's on my blog. Search on permissions. http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:EM/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Russ Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases Actually, both AD Exchange would be cool (probably not in the same script) :) On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Campbell, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AD permissions? From: Russ Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: script to dump perms on exchange server, storage group databases ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
