Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
Correction: The version is 4.69 from exim4-daemon-heavy_4.69-9_i386.deb On 2008-12-10 12:32, Gerard Hooton wrote: Hello, I am seeing multiple copies of it running :- scoil:~ ps -elf | grep exim 5 S 102 10020 1 0 80 0 - 3491 - 09:30 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10080 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 09:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10096 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 09:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10098 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 09:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10101 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 09:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11174 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11178 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:36 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11179 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:37 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11181 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:37 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11225 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11226 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11227 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11228 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11229 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11234 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11236 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:45 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11242 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:45 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11245 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:46 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m This is growing over time. System info: OS: Debian Lenny Linux scoil 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Wed Nov 26 19:14:11 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux Exim 4.69 (from exim4-daemon-heavy_4.63-17_i386.deb) Any help is welcome //Ger -- Gerard Hooton Systems Administrator Blarney Boy's National School, Blarney. Co. Cork -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
This server is handling very low volumes of email about 10 per hour. My limited understanding of email MTAs is that to deliver an email to the server a connection is made which spawns an exim process. When complete the connection and its process should die. If that is correct, then it looks like that on my system the exim process remains after the connection is gone ??? As I say my knowledge in this area is limited, so thanks to everyone for your patience and understanding. //Ger Jeremy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerard Hooton wrote: I have seen this grow to 100+ is that ok? That's entirely up to what loading you expect for your system. Exim is happy with that level on most current hardware. You get a process for each current connection. As Pete said, exiwhat shows you what each one is doing. The too many connections message in the log appears when you go over the number you've configured in the exim config file. - Jeremy -- Gerard Hooton Systems Administrator Blarney Boy's National School, Blarney. Co. Cork -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
Normal operation. - Jeremy -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
Thanks Jeremy for your reply. I have seen this grow to 100+ is that ok? What made me look at this was that I was seen the following in the log file Connection from [118.176.238.72] refused: too many connections //Ger Jeremy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normal operation. - Jeremy -- Gerard Hooton Systems Administrator Blarney Boy's National School, Blarney. Co. Cork -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 01:11:15PM +, Gerard Hooton wrote: Thanks Jeremy for your reply. I have seen this grow to 100+ is that ok? What made me look at this was that I was seen the following in the log file Connection from [118.176.238.72] refused: too many connections `exiwhat' is very useful in these circumstances. -- Pete -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 13:17 +, Pete McEvoy wrote: `exiwhat' is very useful in these circumstances. [Thinks...] Would it be useful to all/many/some/nobody to code up a feature whereby the Exim child processes have something descriptive in their proccess name, such as: 2930 ?Ss 4:02 exim -bd -q15m 20045 ?S 0:00 \_ exim -bd -q15m (connection from 192.168.1.1) Strikes me that would not require *too* much in the way of code, and may make the output from ps a little more easily understandable. Hit me if that's a daft idea. Graeme -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
On 10 Dec 2008, at 13:31, Graeme Fowler wrote: Would it be useful to all/many/some/nobody to code up a feature whereby the Exim child processes have something descriptive in their proccess name, such as: 2930 ?Ss 4:02 exim -bd -q15m 20045 ?S 0:00 \_ exim -bd -q15m (connection from 192.168.1.1) Strikes me that would not require *too* much in the way of code, and may make the output from ps a little more easily understandable. Its doable on some OSes (it certainly used to be quite OS dependant on how such stuff was done and how well it would work. In particular some OSes used to require you to pad the initial argv out). Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
when I do exiwhat I get :- 10020 daemon: -q30m, listening for SMTP on [87.33.113.4]:25 When I do ps -elf |grep exim I get :- 5 S 102 10020 1 0 80 0 - 3491 - 09:30 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10080 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 09:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10096 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 09:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10098 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 09:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10101 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 09:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11174 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11178 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:36 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11179 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:37 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11181 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:37 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11225 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11226 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11227 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11228 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11229 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11234 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11236 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:45 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11242 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:45 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11245 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:46 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 12503 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 13:17 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m Which config file do I set the max connections, I have a split config //Ger Jeremy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerard Hooton wrote: I have seen this grow to 100+ is that ok? That's entirely up to what loading you expect for your system. Exim is happy with that level on most current hardware. You get a process for each current connection. As Pete said, exiwhat shows you what each one is doing. The too many connections message in the log appears when you go over the number you've configured in the exim config file. - Jeremy -- Gerard Hooton Systems Administrator Blarney Boy's National School, Blarney. Co. Cork -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
Gerard Hooton wrote: I have seen this grow to 100+ is that ok? That's entirely up to what loading you expect for your system. Exim is happy with that level on most current hardware. You get a process for each current connection. As Pete said, exiwhat shows you what each one is doing. The too many connections message in the log appears when you go over the number you've configured in the exim config file. - Jeremy -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Gerard Hooton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am seeing multiple copies of it running :- scoil:~ ps -elf | grep exim 5 S 102 10020 1 0 80 0 - 3491 - 09:30 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10080 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 09:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10096 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 09:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10098 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 09:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 10101 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 09:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11174 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:35 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11178 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:36 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11179 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:37 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11181 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:37 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11225 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11226 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11227 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11228 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11229 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11234 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:44 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11236 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:45 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11242 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:45 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m 1 S 102 11245 10020 0 80 0 - 3493 - 11:46 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m Last time I experienced such, my I/O system was buggered, the controller wasn't functioning properly. The system logfile had entries referring to the filesystem malfunctioning. This whole thing was also coupled with high load average figures. -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
Gerard Hooton wrote: Which config file do I set the max connections, I have a split config That's a question for the debian mailing list. Split config isn't supported here. - Marc -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
Marc Sherman wrote: Gerard Hooton wrote: Which config file do I set the max connections, I have a split config That's a question for the debian mailing list. Split config isn't supported here. Dumb question: What's a split config? --Yan -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
Re: [exim] multiple copies of exim4 running
Under Debian you have the option of having the exim config split over a number of files in /etc/exim4/conf.d/ Example: -lrt /etc/exim4/conf.d/ total 9 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 2008-12-10 15:06 main drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 2008-12-10 15:06 transport drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 2008-12-10 15:06 rewrite drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 2008-12-10 15:06 retry drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 2008-12-10 15:06 auth drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 2008-12-10 15:06 acl drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 2008-12-10 15:06 router //Ger Yan Seiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc Sherman wrote: Gerard Hooton wrote: Which config file do I set the max connections, I have a split config That's a question for the debian mailing list. Split config isn't supported here. Dumb question: What's a split config? --Yan -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/ -- Gerard Hooton Systems Administrator Blarney Boy's National School, Blarney. Co. Cork -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
