Re: [expert] Acrobat segmentation faults

2000-06-03 Thread Michael E. Shea

"Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." wrote:

> On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 - root, you wrote:
>   |  I bought Mandrake 7.0 instead of downloading so I could read the linux
>   |  EBooks that came with the distribution. I can read the EBooks fine when
>   |  I boot to Windows 98 but I can get Acrobat to work in Linux. I have
>   |  tried acroread 4 which comes on the CD and 4.05 from Adobe's web site.
>   |  Both times I followed the installation instructions.
>   |
>   |  Any suggestions?
>
> Hello,
>
> If you are using the 24-bit True Color setting in X Windows, this may be your
> problem. I had trouble with Acrobat and Word Perfect at this color depth. Try
> using either 16-bit High Color, or 32-bit True Color. Both settings work fine
> for me.
>
> HTH,
>
>  --
> ___
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Thanks. Unfortunately I can't use 32bit mode, but 16 bit mode works fine.




Re: [expert] Acrobat segmentation faults

2000-06-03 Thread tal

hi !

try to use o lower color depth setting's .
tal.

At 01:07 04/06/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 - root, you wrote:
>   |  I bought Mandrake 7.0 instead of downloading so I could read the linux
>   |  EBooks that came with the distribution. I can read the EBooks fine when
>   |  I boot to Windows 98 but I can get Acrobat to work in Linux. I have
>   |  tried acroread 4 which comes on the CD and 4.05 from Adobe's web site.
>   |  Both times I followed the installation instructions.
>   |
>   |  Any suggestions?
>
>Hello,
>
>If you are using the 24-bit True Color setting in X Windows, this may be your
>problem. I had trouble with Acrobat and Word Perfect at this color depth. Try
>using either 16-bit High Color, or 32-bit True Color. Both settings work fine
>for me.
>
>HTH,
>
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Re: [expert] Acrobat segmentation faults

2000-06-03 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 - root, you wrote:
  |  I bought Mandrake 7.0 instead of downloading so I could read the linux
  |  EBooks that came with the distribution. I can read the EBooks fine when
  |  I boot to Windows 98 but I can get Acrobat to work in Linux. I have
  |  tried acroread 4 which comes on the CD and 4.05 from Adobe's web site.
  |  Both times I followed the installation instructions.
  |  
  |  Any suggestions?

Hello,

If you are using the 24-bit True Color setting in X Windows, this may be your
problem. I had trouble with Acrobat and Word Perfect at this color depth. Try
using either 16-bit High Color, or 32-bit True Color. Both settings work fine
for me.

HTH,

 -- 
___
Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])




[expert] module vfat wished into the cornfield

2000-06-03 Thread Gavin Clark

module vfat is for windows filesystems, right?

I don't have any windows partitions and this box will never see a windows
formatted floppy.

Can I zap the part which loads it from the mandrake-everytime init script or
will that cause problems somewhere?

thanks,

Gavin Clark




Re: [expert] Help! - (disk filling up)

2000-06-03 Thread Gavin Clark

on 6/3/00 4:37 PM, Cecil Watson  wrote:

> Help!  Some how something seems to be eating up space on my hard drive!
> I won't be able to get to the system till Monday.  I have OpenSSH
> access, but cannot find anything out of place?  Anyone got any ideas?  I
> know I had plenty of room available on it?!  Thanks in advance,
> 
> Cecil
> 

there was a disscussion about a week ago on "Out of room on / filesystem"
might want to check that out.

try #df -h to help you zoom in on it

check log files in /var/log

also look at netscape cache

Gavin




Re: [expert] Help!

2000-06-03 Thread Eric Aksomitis

Well, to do high-level space-usage investigations, remember:

mkisofs -J -f -x /temp/drvspace.000 -x ./drvspace.000 -print-size
"$DIRECTORY"
echo "Remember, approx355000 on an 80 min CD"
echo "333000 on a 74 min cd"

This will tell you very quickly where the space is getting used up.  Too
bad it prints it in Sectors and not Megs, but at least you can just * by
2 K, (or divide by 512 to get the number of Meg used).

Eric Aksomitis
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/re_answer.shtml


Cecil Watson wrote:
> 
> Help!  Some how something seems to be eating up space on my hard drive!
> I won't be able to get to the system till Monday.  I have OpenSSH
> access, but cannot find anything out of place?  Anyone got any ideas?  I
> know I had plenty of room available on it?!  Thanks in advance,
> 
> Cecil




[expert] Help!

2000-06-03 Thread Cecil Watson

Help!  Some how something seems to be eating up space on my hard drive!
I won't be able to get to the system till Monday.  I have OpenSSH
access, but cannot find anything out of place?  Anyone got any ideas?  I
know I had plenty of room available on it?!  Thanks in advance,

Cecil




Re: [expert] Helix Gnome

2000-06-03 Thread David M. Kufta

** Reply to message from Joe Heafner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat,
03 Jun 2000 16:52:52 -0400

Joe,
 You can install helix-gnome just fine without disturbing your kde
deesktop. You can use the command desktopcfg and choose what Xwindow
enviroment to use, should you choose gnome you will be using helix-gnome
and sawfish window manager on your desktop. Should you prefer the kde
desktop you can always rerun desktopcfg from the console and change back
to your KDE which you will find just as you left it

Dave

David M. Kufta
Konsult Ltd.
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Re: [expert] Helix Gnome

2000-06-03 Thread Bruce E. Harris

Well, as always, you shud back up just in case. However, I rarely take this
advice myself.

I used the auto install for Helix, and installed it over the version of Gnome
that came with Mandrake 7.0. I have had no problems, and able to run KDE
whenever I feel like it, and I am using Kmail from inside Helix.

The setup will walk you thru the whole process...pay attention and during the
last part it will ask you if you want to use KDM or the Heilx start up..I am
using KDM and can use KDE or anyother window manager that came with Mandrake.
Pretty slick.

Bruce

On Sat, 03 Jun 2000, Joe Heafner wrote:
> Ralph wrote:
> > 
> > It's sweet try it!!
> > I used the download script and didnt have a problem at all.
> >
> Before I try it, I need to be assured that it won't screw up anything
> I'm currently using. Right now, I use KDE 1.1.2 as my desktop. Can I
> download and install Helix Gnome without ruining my current desktop
> settings? Should I uninstall the version of Gnome that came with
> Mandrake 7?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
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> My Book 
> My Home Page 
> CVAC Home Page 
> Linux! Why did it take me so long to try it?
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Re: [expert] Helix Gnome

2000-06-03 Thread Joe Heafner

Ralph wrote:
> 
> It's sweet try it!!
> I used the download script and didnt have a problem at all.
>
Before I try it, I need to be assured that it won't screw up anything
I'm currently using. Right now, I use KDE 1.1.2 as my desktop. Can I
download and install Helix Gnome without ruining my current desktop
settings? Should I uninstall the version of Gnome that came with
Mandrake 7?

Thanks,
-- 
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My Book 
My Home Page 
CVAC Home Page 
Linux! Why did it take me so long to try it?




[expert]

2000-06-03 Thread Ralph

Hello all,
Has anyone out in Mandrake land set up FreeBsd on Vmware and got it 
to run??? I cnat figure which xserver to choose during setup when i
choose the 16vga hell the screen is so big i cant do anything with it.

Thanks,
Ralph
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Re: [expert] Helix Gnome

2000-06-03 Thread Ralph

It's sweet try it!!
I used the download script and didnt have a problem at all.
Go to http://helixcode.com and check it out for yourself.

> Hi.
> 
> What are the advantages of Helix Gnome over the version that came with
> Mandrake 7.0?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Joe Heafner -- Astronomy/Physics Instructor 828-327-7000, ext. 4246
> My Book 
> My Home Page 
> CVAC Home Page 
> Linux! Why did it take me so long to try it?
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Re: [expert] gAIM 0.9.17 rpm or binary

2000-06-03 Thread Ralph

Hey,
Gaim 0.9.17 has a bug in it. You can download the 0.9.18
from thier web site at http://marko.net.

Ralph
> > 
> > On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, John Kofinas wrote:
> > 
> > > > AOL's servers began giving No configuration errors to gaim users!
> > > >
> > >
> > > I am getting the same error and I don't have a clue why it is saying it. Other
> > > then the state aol server asks for is not the same gaim is sending out...
> > >
> > >
> > John,
> > 
> > I don't know the exact reason for the problem but it worked
> > Monday night and didn't on Tuesday. I found a posting after searching dejanews
> > today suggesing that the latest gAIM release (0.9.17) works.
--
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Re: [expert] Acrobat segmentation faults

2000-06-03 Thread root

Tom Berger wrote:

> On Sat, 03 (06/00) at 10:59 +, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I bought Mandrake 7.0 instead of downloading so I could read the linux
> > EBooks that came with the distribution. I can read the EBooks fine when
> > I boot to Windows 98 but I can get Acrobat to work in Linux. I have
> > tried acroread 4 which comes on the CD and 4.05 from Adobe's web site.
> > Both times I followed the installation instructions.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> ---end quoted text---
>
> Hum. I got both, 4.0 and 4.05, from Acrobat. 4.0 died, but there's no
> problem with 4.05 (still prefer xpdf, though ...).
>
> Regards
>
> tom
>
>

I did not even know about xpdf. I tried it, but the fonts looks terrible and
some of the PDF files that come with the distro are encrypted and xpdf does
not support encrypted pdf files  8^(.




Re: [expert] IpChains problems in Mandrake 7.0

2000-06-03 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger


Being list under policy DENY doesn't really mean anything; it just means
that anything *isn't* specified will be denied.  That which you MASQ
will still be masquaraded.

Also, it cannot simultaneously be true that:

a) You have NO access from a workstation, and
b) You can ping the linux box from a workstation.

If your firewall were stopping you you would not even be able to ping.

Most likely you simply don't have the services you are trying to access
doing on the Linux boxes, which is a question independent of the
firewall itself.

"Darcy Brodie, CJL" wrote:
> 
> I am trying to configure a linux box to be a firewall / masqurading
> machine for access to the internet through a cable modem.  eth0 is the
> external nic card (ip supplied by isp via dhcp), and eth1 is the
> internal network (using the 192.168.1.0 class C group).  These are
> communicating properly.
> I have the firewall configured as follows
> 
> echo "1" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> # clear all rules and start fresh
> /sbin/ipchains -F
> /sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j MASQ
> # this prevents ICQ Time out problems
> /sbin/ipchains -M -S 7200 10 160
> 
> When I run the rc.firewall program, I get no errors.  However, when I
> list the ipchains (ipchains -L), all of the above rules are listed under
> teh policy DENY, and I have NO access from a workstation (although I can
> 1-ping both the internal and external networks from the linux box, and
> 2- ping the linux box from any of the workstations)
> 
> Suggestions ??

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[expert] Date tagged names

2000-06-03 Thread Anton Graham

(Sorry if this is a duplicate post, I sent the original yesterday and
never saw it myself)

I have this rather ugly method of generating a directory name that is
a date (MM).  Part of the ugliness comes from having to pipe the
output from date through awk to reduce the month by one because it
gets called from a cron job at midnight on the first of each month.

Does anybody have a cleaner method of doing this?

DirName=$HOME/Mail/Archives/$(echo -e "$(date +%Y%m)" \
   | awk '{if ((($1-1)%100)==0) print  $1-89; else \
   print $1-1 }')


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Re: [expert] Acrobat segmentation faults

2000-06-03 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger

root wrote:
> 
> I bought Mandrake 7.0 instead of downloading so I could read the linux
> EBooks that came with the distribution. I can read the EBooks fine when
> I boot to Windows 98 but I can get Acrobat to work in Linux. I have
> tried acroread 4 which comes on the CD and 4.05 from Adobe's web site.
> Both times I followed the installation instructions.
> 
> Any suggestions?

You could always try xpdf.  I've mostly switched to using it myself.

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Re: [expert] joystick with V7 (Air)

2000-06-03 Thread Tom Berger

On Sat, 03 (06/00) at 17:24 +, hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi,
> have installed my V7 for my daughters PC and am looking now for getting
> running the joystick. Have loaded insmod joystick, lsmod shows me the
> loaded module, but where is a testprogram called jstest ?
> 
> A brandnew update and locate jstest doesn't show me anything !
> 
> joystick-drivers are installed as modules.
> 
> In the readme of the kernels joystick-docu I found this here :
> 
> jstest /dev/js0
> 
> but I cannot find a jstest.
> 
> Is anybody there, who could give me some hints in getting running the
> joystick ?
> 
> It's a "Interact PC-Mission" Joystick, connected to the gameport of the
> soundcard. The soundcard is an Ensoniq ES1371 (rev. 6)
> 
> Or have I to tweak the soundcard at first and if so, how I have to teak
> it ?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Hans Schneidhofer
> 
---end quoted text---

Hi.

How about 'joytest'?

Regards

tom

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Re: [expert] Acrobat segmentation faults

2000-06-03 Thread Tom Berger

On Sat, 03 (06/00) at 10:59 +, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I bought Mandrake 7.0 instead of downloading so I could read the linux
> EBooks that came with the distribution. I can read the EBooks fine when
> I boot to Windows 98 but I can get Acrobat to work in Linux. I have
> tried acroread 4 which comes on the CD and 4.05 from Adobe's web site.
> Both times I followed the installation instructions.
> 
> Any suggestions?
---end quoted text---

Hum. I got both, 4.0 and 4.05, from Acrobat. 4.0 died, but there's no
problem with 4.05 (still prefer xpdf, though ...).

Regards

tom

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Re: [expert] OT: Google and Linux

2000-06-03 Thread Fran Parker

That is amazing!

I love the tidbits you get in this forum.

Bambi

Pj wrote:

> Google may be running more Linux servers than anyone else in the world,
> with 4,000 machines operating and plans to increase to 6,000.
>
> Pj




Re: [expert] MSSQL 7.0 to MySQL

2000-06-03 Thread Bug Hunter


  This is problematic if MsSQL 7.0 uses any transactions.  MySQL does not
support transactions.  You can get the Windows ODBC driver for MySQL, and
run a VB script/compiled code that reads the MsSQL database tables and
writes the MySQL datbase tables.  This should be fairly easy and quick, as
you can write direct SQL statements in VB code using ODBC interface.

On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Stephen Atkins wrote:

> Not sure if this belongs here but does any one know of a db convert from
> MSSQL 7.0 to MySQL?
> 
> Stephen Atkins
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 




Re: [expert] Acrobat segmentation faults

2000-06-03 Thread root

Sebastian Dransfeld wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Jun 2000, root wrote:
>
> > I bought Mandrake 7.0 instead of downloading so I could read the linux
> > EBooks that came with the distribution. I can read the EBooks fine when
> > I boot to Windows 98 but I can get Acrobat to work in Linux. I have
> > tried acroread 4 which comes on the CD and 4.05 from Adobe's web site.
> > Both times I followed the installation instructions.
> >
>
> I think there was (is?) an error with the attributes o the acroread
> binary. try to chmod 755 it.
>
> --
> seb

Thanks, but that did not work.

Sometimes when viewing a PDF acroread will close on its own and the shell
reports "Exited with error code: 0x400e0009.






[expert] OT: Google and Linux

2000-06-03 Thread Pj

Google may be running more Linux servers than anyone else in the world,
with 4,000 machines operating and plans to increase to 6,000.

Pj




Re: [expert] Acrobat segmentation faults

2000-06-03 Thread Sebastian Dransfeld

On Sat, 3 Jun 2000, root wrote:

> I bought Mandrake 7.0 instead of downloading so I could read the linux
> EBooks that came with the distribution. I can read the EBooks fine when
> I boot to Windows 98 but I can get Acrobat to work in Linux. I have
> tried acroread 4 which comes on the CD and 4.05 from Adobe's web site.
> Both times I followed the installation instructions.
> 

I think there was (is?) an error with the attributes o the acroread
binary. try to chmod 755 it.

--
seb




[expert] Acrobat segmentation faults

2000-06-03 Thread root

I bought Mandrake 7.0 instead of downloading so I could read the linux
EBooks that came with the distribution. I can read the EBooks fine when
I boot to Windows 98 but I can get Acrobat to work in Linux. I have
tried acroread 4 which comes on the CD and 4.05 from Adobe's web site.
Both times I followed the installation instructions.

Any suggestions?




[expert] joystick with V7 (Air)

2000-06-03 Thread hans

hi,
have installed my V7 for my daughters PC and am looking now for getting
running the joystick. Have loaded insmod joystick, lsmod shows me the
loaded module, but where is a testprogram called jstest ?

A brandnew update and locate jstest doesn't show me anything !

joystick-drivers are installed as modules.

In the readme of the kernels joystick-docu I found this here :

jstest /dev/js0

but I cannot find a jstest.

Is anybody there, who could give me some hints in getting running the
joystick ?

It's a "Interact PC-Mission" Joystick, connected to the gameport of the
soundcard. The soundcard is an Ensoniq ES1371 (rev. 6)

Or have I to tweak the soundcard at first and if so, how I have to teak
it ?

Thanks in advance

Hans Schneidhofer





[expert] kisdn ... is running, but where is the menue ?

2000-06-03 Thread hans

hi again,
one more problem I found :
have downloaded kisdn, installed it and called kcmkisdn - was okay. But
calling kisdn results in a commandline-messages, that it would be up and
running, but nothing to see. Where is the kisdn-menue ?

Any ideas, what's going on here ?

My system : mdk V7.0 (Air), ATI Mach 64 GB, but it's a Rage Pro 128, a
so called "Fury" therefore I've installed X11 3.6.

Thanks in advance for your help

Hans Schneidhofer






Re: [expert] test

2000-06-03 Thread Tom Berger

On Sat, 03 (06/00) at 07:56 +, Jose M. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> test
---end quoted text---

Seen ;).

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[expert] test

2000-06-03 Thread Jose M. Sanchez

test




[expert] i386 i586 : what difference?

2000-06-03 Thread Piero

Which is the difference between packages marked i386 and packages marked i586?

Thanks,

Piero
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Ecole Normale Superieure

...humani nihil ...




[expert] Gnome - two problems

2000-06-03 Thread Mage Grimau

Is there any way to make the Helix-Gnome desktop icons single-click instead
of double-click? Due to arthritis, I can't double-click effectively (and you
should see the way I type!) but I really like the speed of the latest
Helix-Gnome.

Also - can I disable that "save yourself" stuff for specific applications? I
use kmud a lot, but under Helix-Gnome I get a box every few seconds that says
something like "This application has not responded to the save yourself
message." and then gives me options to terminate the app or cancel. If I
cancel, the box shows up again a few seconds later. If I terminate, well,
obvious.

Thanks folks.


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Re: [expert] A modest security idea for new distribution

2000-06-03 Thread Grzegorz Staniak

Denis HAVLIK wrote:

[...]

> :~>What I mean is a smallish graphic utility somewhere on the Mandrake
> :~>desktop (it would be great if someone added this to graphic filemanagers
> :~>too) that would let the user to, say, 'lock/seal/secure this
> :~>directory/file' by removing write access (dirs) and executing 'chattr
> :~>+i' (files) through a grpahic 'su' wrapper (ksu/gsu). In a graphic
> :~>manager, such directories/files could be marked in a special way.
> :~>
> :~>Access rights prevent the hypothetical virus from destroying the whole
> :~>system, but what counts most for a user is his own data, after all. A
> :~>tool like above (or a filemanager feature) would IMVHO go a way towards
> :~>avoiding data loss catastrophies, not only virii-related - a mistyped
> :~>'rm -f' would also be less dangerous that way. All it would take would
> :~>be for the user to 'lock' those directories they can't afford to lose.
> :~>
> :~>What do you think?
> 
> Would not help you much. What WOULD help is having all programs started
> from mail programs chrooted to somewhere where they cannot do any damage.

That's OK for e-mail attachments, but the locking thingy would be more
general.I've had a few accidents so far with an imprudent use of 'rm'
('mc' has this bug that sometimes there's a problem with the sub-shell
you get by hitting 'Ctrl-o' - the prompt is not visible, and the 'pwd'
is not what was in the panel). In one case a FAT partition was involved
- tough luck, twelve hours of advanced data recovery training. But in
the case of ext2 partitions, I still think the 'sealer' could be useful
for a typical home user (I can always do exactly the same from
command-line). And of course it doesn't exclude the sandbox for e-mail
attachments in any way, we can have both - too many security options is
not a problem.
 
> Dr. Denis Havlik

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Re: [expert] dependency problems with rpms

2000-06-03 Thread Ron Stodden

Vic wrote:
> 
> I would like to suggest something for a RPM installer feature,
> make it so instead of only telling you that its missing
> libmxo25.so.9 or some dumb thing like that,
> have it also tell you what rpm that this file is found in,
> or give at least some possibilities of software packages
> or names of softwares that it could be found in so
> we don't have to go pestering every linux list
> on the planet asking where wehre where werhe. screw the spelling

The facility you requests already exists when you explore packages
on: 

http://www.rpmfind.net

Look at any rpm and it will show you the dependencies.  Click on any
of them and it will bring up the rpm in which it is found.  Very good
system.

-- 

Regards,

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Re: [expert] Helix Gnome

2000-06-03 Thread Gavin Clark

on 6/2/00 8:26 PM, Joe Heafner  wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> What are the advantages of Helix Gnome over the version that came with
> Mandrake 7.0?
> 
> Thanks,

mostly it's newer.

>From what I understand by reading thier site Helix is trying to be to Gnome
what Mandrake and Caldera are to Linux. they take gnome, add an easy
installer/ updater, simplify setup and organization, bundle some
mature/usefull desktop apps.
They make money buy selling CDs and support services.

Gavin