[expert] Slocate out of control

2001-05-27 Thread Brian Hartman

Hi, all.

I'm having a problem, and I think it's with slocate.  Every so often, my hard 
drive will go nuts and just start grinding uncontrollably, taking up all my 
system resources and forcing a hard shutdown (with the attendant problem of 
fsck having to fix everything on boot-up).  Is there some way to get slocate 
to behave itself so it doesn't lock up my system?  TIA.





Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo

2001-05-27 Thread Ed Tharp

sorry to seem so dense, I ai'nt no expert, just trying to learn what this
symptom means so if I ever have it happen to me I can clear it up. I now
boot with a graphical lilo and use LM 8.0 after using both the text mode and
aurora - lilo and grub in 7.2 and Boot Magic and lilo in 7.0. your dmesg
file would still be interesting, and may give a clue. also, the person
logged in last (what desktop? what window mangler, whether it was a windows
boot? did ME run it's magic restore utility? did you do ANYTHING different
in relation to the different startups?



- Original Message -
From: "David Boles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo


> I am going to write at the top of this so that I might clear up
> somethings.
>
> I balmed Aurora Because:
>
> Always I would get the "pick one of me to load graphic"
>
> SOMETIMES the graphic with all of the names would load, sometimes it
> would crash with NO graphic displayed.
>
> SOMETIMES the graphic would load, several lines of text would be
> displayed below the graphic and then a crash. Since I can not see what
> was happening I don't know what failed.
>
> So, from Mandrake Control Center I set LiLo Text for the boot menu.
>
> SOMETIMES I would get the text Lilo "pick one" menu. SOMETIMES I would
> get the graphic "pick one" menu.
>
> In LiLO text, after the graphic with the names, SOMETIMES I would get a
> text by line boot SOMETIMES it would go back to the graphics boot.
>
> I am sorry for the SHOUTING it was meant as to drive home the points. I
> had no problems with any previous L-M versions. I picked Aurora/my system
> to blame for this problem On a fresh install, as in format and install
> again, Aurora MIGHT work once, twice or not at all. A boot from the 'boot
> disk', which does NOT have Aurora, works with not problem.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: etharp
> To: "David Boles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sun, 27 May 2001 16:30:42 -0400
> Subject : Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo
>
> > I wonder if what your problem might reallly be, is in a service that is
nis
> >  configured, maybe looking for a server on the network that is not
available
> >  yet or something, why not post you dmseg file?
> >
> >
> >  On Sunday 27 May 2001 11:45, you wrote:
> >  > - Original Message -
> >  > From: Alan Shoemaker
> >  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  > Sent: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:58:42 -0700
> >  > Subject : Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo
> >  >
> >  > > David Boles wrote:
> >  > >  > I really don't want to hurt anyones feelings, but...
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > I have had nothing but problems with L-M 8.0 and the new
> >  > >  > Aurora. Or maybe it is the Mandrake Control Center and the
> >  > >  > way it controls Aurora.
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > Please . How do I remove Aurora and just configure L-M 8.0
> >  > >  > for "just plain old LiLo" like is was before L-M 8.0  Not
> >  > >  > to be a smart A$$, I don't really want any "hardware
> >  > >  > configuration questions" I just would like to go back to a
> >  > >  > plain boot, actually lately it has been reboot after
> >  > >  > reboot, startup. I have tried everything that I can think
> >  > >  > of to try.
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > Thanks in advance.
> >  > >
> >  > >  Davidthere's a desktop icon labeled Mandrake Control
> >  > >  Center.  Click it and choose Boot and then Boot Config.
> >  > >  There's a check box to uncheck to turn off Aurora and a
> >  > >  button provided (upper right corner) for configuring lilo.
> >  >
> >  > Thanks Alan, but I was aware of the feature. It does not seem to work
> >  > completely, at least not here. LiLo, or what ever, still loads the
> >  > graphic with the names and sometimes it finishes in text and
sometimes it
> >  > finishes in graphics.
> >
>
> --
> David Boles
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>





[expert] Re: In But Not Out Of Loop

2001-05-27 Thread Pierre Fortin

SoloCDM wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 27 May 2001, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> 
> % Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 10:05:01 -0400
> % From: Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> % To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> %
> % SoloCDM wrote:
> % >
> % > Every time I have a bash while, for or any other type of loop,
> % > with numbers processed and saved to a variable, the numbers are
> % > not in the variable outside the loop.  Although, the numbers are
> % > capable of use and manipulation in the variable, for reassigning
> % > the variable or recall, anytime before the loop ends.  How can the
> % > variable's content be available outside the loop?
> %
> % bash allows access to in-loop defined/updated variables outside loops EXCEPT
> % those defined/updated inside functions; is this your problem?
> %
> % Example:
> %
> % #!/bin/bash
> %
> % i=1
> % j=10
> % li=5
> %
> % myloop() {
> %   li=$li*$li  # Note:  li takes from global but does not affect global
> %   lj=8# Note:  lj is not defined globally
> % }
> %
> % echo -n "i:k:li = "
> % while [ $i -le $j ]; do
> %   let k=${i}*$li
> %   echo -n "$i:$k:$li "
> %   let i=$i+1
> % done
> % echo
> % echo "Note:  k not defined outside the loop but is available here..."
> % echo "i,j,[k],(li) at loop exit:  $i $j [$k] ($li)"
> %
> % for n in 1 2 3; do
> %   let n=$n*$li
> %   echo "li defined outside function gives: $n"
> % done
> %
> % # this loop gives errors 'cuz lj defined inside function
> % for n in 1 2 3; do
> %   let n=$n*$lj
> %   echo "lj defined INside function gives: $n"
> % done
> %
> % Which gives:
> %
> % # ./numtst
> % i:k:li = 1:5:5 2:10:5 3:15:5 4:20:5 5:25:5 6:30:5 7:35:5 8:40:5 9:45:5 10:50:5
> % Note:  k not defined outside the loop but is available here...
> % i,j,[k],(li) at loop exit:  11 10 [50] (5)
> % li defined outside function gives: 5
> % li defined outside function gives: 10
> % li defined outside function gives: 15
> % ./numtst: let: n=1*: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "*")
> % lj defined INside function gives: 1
> % ./numtst: let: n=2*: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "*")
> % lj defined INside function gives: 2
> % ./numtst: let: n=3*: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "*")
> % lj defined INside function gives: 3
> %
> % Error is due to n=$n*
> 
> Even though you don't call the function myloop, the definition for let
> in the man bash misleads a person into believing a true/false or 1/0
> will be the outcome.  But, you're saying that let will allow the
> variable value to carry outside the loop or subshell . . . correct?

Sheesh...  gotta learn to be more careful...  sorry.  No, "let" is needed to do
numeric manipulation;
 otherwise it does text concatenation, like this:

i=1
let i=$i+1  # or:  let i++  # no "$" in this case.
i=$i+1
echo $i

gives:

2+1  (text instead of number '3')

sigh...  man bash says:
   Variables  local  to  the function may be declared with the local builtin
command.  Ordinarily, variables and
   their values are shared between the function and its caller.
^^
OK...  just add "myloop" immediately following each "for" and you'll get:

# ./numtst
i:k:li = 1:5:5 2:10:5 3:15:5 4:20:5 5:25:5 6:30:5 7:35:5 8:40:5 9:45:5 10:50:5
Note:  k not defined outside the loop but is available here...
i,j,[k],(li) at loop exit:  11 10 [50] (5)
li defined outside function gives: 25
li defined outside function gives: 1250
li defined outside function gives: 1171875
lj defined INside function gives: 8
lj defined INside function gives: 16
lj defined INside function gives: 24

So, it would appear that any variable is global throughout a shell unless
explicitly made local with "local" (there is no "global" in bash according to
the man).

Why don't you post a code sample which is giving you trouble...?

Pierre




[expert] Re: [newbie] Re: Reply-To header needed

2001-05-27 Thread skip


>> Skip, no offence, but it's not up to you what goes in the headers and
>> what doesn't, if you're following the RFC rules.  Regardless, your
>> reason for offering what should and shouldn't be done has proven in
>> the past as a bad solution.  The choice to choose what should or
>> shouldn't be done is up to the end-users.

No, certainly it's not up to me.  It's up to the administrators of the list.
I was merely offering my opinion, based upon lots of experience (mostly as
an email user) over the years, on many different mailing lists.  I've never
seen anybody forward a reply to a list with an embarassed prefix attached
that they inadvertently sent to just the original sender.  On the other
hand, I have seen plenty of times where people have apologized to a list for
having accidentally sent an inappropriate message to the list that was
intended just for one person.

-- 
Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(847)971-7098




Re: [expert] SYS MAIL

2001-05-27 Thread Dan Swartzendruber

On Mon, 28 May 2001, Chris Spackman wrote:

> On my machine, it is postfix. Make sure it is running. The only change i had
> to make was to get roots mail delivered to my normal account. That was an
> option in one of the postfix config file (in /etc/postfix/ iirc). It says
> something like:
>
> # who gets roots mail
> # root = marc
>
> uncomment, change the name and you are set.

can also put in in /etc/postfix/aliases.







Re: [expert] kmail

2001-05-27 Thread Hoyt

On Sunday 27 May 2001 06:18 pm, Randy Donohoe wrote:
> I'm having trouble getting kmail on LM 8.0 to retrieve mail. I have my pop3
> set up but when I click check mail I either get nothing or sometimes on the
> progress bar it says "preparing transmission..". What have I forgot
> to do? Randy Donohoe

Check for spelling errors and make certain that you didn't get the smtp and 
pop server names switched. Re-enter your password.

I.e, the usual stuff.

Hoyt




[expert] kmail

2001-05-27 Thread Randy Donohoe

I'm having trouble getting kmail on LM 8.0 to retrieve mail. I have my pop3 set
up but when I click check mail I either get nothing or sometimes on the progress
bar it says "preparing transmission..". What have I forgot to do?
Randy Donohoe





Re: [expert] Update to 8.0...

2001-05-27 Thread Brian Hartman

On Sunday 27 May 2001 05:18 pm, Julia A. Case wrote:

Julia,

First thing to do is to make sure you have the kernel-sources RPM installed.  
(Sorry if you already double-checked that, but ya gotta start somewhere.)

> Now I can't rebuild the kernel, I tried running make menuconfig and I get
> a lot of missing .h files...  What rpms should I verify are installed?
>
> Julia




Re: [expert] SYS MAIL

2001-05-27 Thread Chris Spackman

On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 02:58:27PM -0500, Craig Woods wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Since I have not posted for quite some time, let me give a
> congratulations to all the hard working people at Mandrake. Your LMDK
> 8.0 is a complete success. You worked your butts off, and it shows.
> Thanks to all.
> 
> If I could get some direction on a simple matter, I would be most
> appreciative. What service and/or daemon runs system mail? This is the
> mail written to root about cron jobs, and other system info. I have
> noticed that I am not getting this mail, and there is no
> "/var/spool/mail/root" file being created. I tried a "touch" to create
> this file but still no data is being written to it. I can not seem to
> locate a man page or any other documentation about this internal mail
> process. Thanks for any help or pointers
> 
> Craig Woods

On my machine, it is postfix. Make sure it is running. The only change i had
to make was to get roots mail delivered to my normal account. That was an
option in one of the postfix config file (in /etc/postfix/ iirc). It says
something like:

# who gets roots mail
# root = marc

uncomment, change the name and you are set.


Also are you sure the cron jobs are set up correctly to send mail to root?


-- 
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[expert] full-screen problems with vmware?

2001-05-27 Thread Dan Swartzendruber


I finally got my cooker setup fairly stable.  Installed vmware 2.0.4
with no problems.  Installed win98 guest.  Again, no problems.
Until... I tried switching to a full-screen.  The screen goes blank,
with some colored garbage along the top.  This was with 4.0.3 (came
by default).  Made sure backing store was on.  Installed 3.3.6 server
and retried experiment.  Same thing.  I have a voodoo3/2000, and this
all worked flawlessly under mdk 7.2.  I've been groveling through 2-3
months of email on the mailing list archive, but I'm not sure I've
found my specific issue yet.  Any ideas?






Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo

2001-05-27 Thread Alan Shoemaker

David Boles wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: Alan Shoemaker
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:58:42 -0700
> Subject : Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo
>
> > David Boles wrote:
> >  > I really don't want to hurt anyones feelings, but...
> >  >
> >  > I have had nothing but problems with L-M 8.0 and the
> >  > new Aurora. Or maybe it is the Mandrake Control Center
> >  > and the way it controls Aurora.
> >  >
> >  > Please . How do I remove Aurora and just configure L-M
> >  > 8.0 for "just plain old LiLo" like is was before L-M
> >  > 8.0  Not to be a smart A$$, I don't really want any
> >  > "hardware configuration questions" I just would like
> >  > to go back to a plain boot, actually lately it has
> >  > been reboot after reboot, startup. I have tried
> >  > everything that I can think of to try.
> >  >
> >  > Thanks in advance.
> >
> >  Davidthere's a desktop icon labeled Mandrake Control
> >  Center.  Click it and choose Boot and then Boot Config.
> >  There's a check box to uncheck to turn off Aurora and a
> >  button provided (upper right corner) for configuring
> > lilo.
>
> Thanks Alan, but I was aware of the feature. It does not
> seem to work completely, at least not here. LiLo, or what
> ever, still loads the graphic with the names and sometimes
> it finishes in text and sometimes it finishes in graphics.

Davidok, then uninstall any aurora rpms.  Also make any 
vga= line in lilo say vga=normal (after any changes do an 
/sbin/lilo as root).
-- 
Alan




Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo

2001-05-27 Thread David Boles

I am going to write at the top of this so that I might clear up
somethings.

I balmed Aurora Because:

Always I would get the "pick one of me to load graphic"

SOMETIMES the graphic with all of the names would load, sometimes it
would crash with NO graphic displayed.

SOMETIMES the graphic would load, several lines of text would be
displayed below the graphic and then a crash. Since I can not see what
was happening I don't know what failed.

So, from Mandrake Control Center I set LiLo Text for the boot menu.

SOMETIMES I would get the text Lilo "pick one" menu. SOMETIMES I would
get the graphic "pick one" menu.

In LiLO text, after the graphic with the names, SOMETIMES I would get a
text by line boot SOMETIMES it would go back to the graphics boot.

I am sorry for the SHOUTING it was meant as to drive home the points. I
had no problems with any previous L-M versions. I picked Aurora/my system
to blame for this problem On a fresh install, as in format and install
again, Aurora MIGHT work once, twice or not at all. A boot from the 'boot
disk', which does NOT have Aurora, works with not problem.


- Original Message -
From: etharp
To: "David Boles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sun, 27 May 2001 16:30:42 -0400
Subject : Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo

> I wonder if what your problem might reallly be, is in a service that is nis 
>  configured, maybe looking for a server on the network that is not available 
>  yet or something, why not post you dmseg file? 
>  
>  
>  On Sunday 27 May 2001 11:45, you wrote:
>  > - Original Message -
>  > From: Alan Shoemaker
>  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > Sent: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:58:42 -0700
>  > Subject : Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo
>  >
>  > > David Boles wrote:
>  > >  > I really don't want to hurt anyones feelings, but...
>  > >  >
>  > >  > I have had nothing but problems with L-M 8.0 and the new
>  > >  > Aurora. Or maybe it is the Mandrake Control Center and the
>  > >  > way it controls Aurora.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Please . How do I remove Aurora and just configure L-M 8.0
>  > >  > for "just plain old LiLo" like is was before L-M 8.0  Not
>  > >  > to be a smart A$$, I don't really want any "hardware
>  > >  > configuration questions" I just would like to go back to a
>  > >  > plain boot, actually lately it has been reboot after
>  > >  > reboot, startup. I have tried everything that I can think
>  > >  > of to try.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Thanks in advance.
>  > >
>  > >  Davidthere's a desktop icon labeled Mandrake Control
>  > >  Center.  Click it and choose Boot and then Boot Config.
>  > >  There's a check box to uncheck to turn off Aurora and a
>  > >  button provided (upper right corner) for configuring lilo.
>  >
>  > Thanks Alan, but I was aware of the feature. It does not seem to work
>  > completely, at least not here. LiLo, or what ever, still loads the
>  > graphic with the names and sometimes it finishes in text and sometimes it
>  > finishes in graphics.
>  

-- 
David Boles
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





[expert] Update to 8.0...

2001-05-27 Thread Julia A. Case

Now I can't rebuild the kernel, I tried running make menuconfig and I get 
a lot of missing .h files...  What rpms should I verify are installed?

Julia

-- 
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[   Admining Linux  ] [   To thine own self be true.   ]
[ Windows/WindowsNT ] [ Fair is where you take your cows to be judged. ]
  




[expert] SYS MAIL

2001-05-27 Thread Craig Woods

Hello,

Since I have not posted for quite some time, let me give a
congratulations to all the hard working people at Mandrake. Your LMDK
8.0 is a complete success. You worked your butts off, and it shows.
Thanks to all.

If I could get some direction on a simple matter, I would be most
appreciative. What service and/or daemon runs system mail? This is the
mail written to root about cron jobs, and other system info. I have
noticed that I am not getting this mail, and there is no
"/var/spool/mail/root" file being created. I tried a "touch" to create
this file but still no data is being written to it. I can not seem to
locate a man page or any other documentation about this internal mail
process. Thanks for any help or pointers

Craig Woods




[expert] LibGTK+ problem in Mdk8

2001-05-27 Thread Digital Wokan

It seems the libgtk+1.2 rpm provides libgtk+1.2 in Mandrake 8.0, but
fails to list libgtk+ as something it provides as well.  Attempts to
install software relying on the presence of libgtk+ fail because of
this.  In this particular case, I'm trying to install fsv-0.9-4mdk.rpm
from the contribs.  It lists a dependancy on libgtk+ >= 1.2.1 as being
unsatisfied.

Can someone package an updated libgtk+ with the correct provides
information included, even if it's in the unsupported area since this
isn't a "security" issue.




Fw: Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo

2001-05-27 Thread David Boles

Sure
  

--- Forwarded Message ---
 From: Digital Wokan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: David Boles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Sent: Sun, 27 May 2001 11:55:34 -0400
 Subject: Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo

Damn.  Oddly enough, I thought I replied to the list.  I thought it was
just slow again.  Can you forward that to the list so everyone
(including Mdksft) can see.

David Boles wrote:
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Digital Wokan
> To: David Boles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sun, 27 May 2001 11:20:00 -0400
> Subject : Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo
> 
> > David, these are the RPM's you wish to yank right the heck out of your
> >  system (just like I did after one too many times watching Kudzu become
> >  castrated by the lack of a text screen to use)...
> >
> >  rpm -e Aurora Aurora-Monitor-NewStyle-Categorizing-WsLib
> >
> >  Hopefully, MandrakeSoft will make this an option during installs, just
> >  like the option to boot straight into a GUI or *NOT*.
> >
> >
> >  David Boles wrote:
> >  >
> >  > - Original Message -
> >  > From: Alan Shoemaker
> >  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  > Sent: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:58:42 -0700
> >  > Subject : Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo
> >  >
> >  > > David Boles wrote:
> >  > >  > I really don't want to hurt anyones feelings, but...
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > I have had nothing but problems with L-M 8.0 and the new
> >  > >  > Aurora. Or maybe it is the Mandrake Control Center and the
> >  > >  > way it controls Aurora.
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > Please . How do I remove Aurora and just configure L-M 8.0
> >  > >  > for "just plain old LiLo" like is was before L-M 8.0  Not
> >  > >  > to be a smart A$$, I don't really want any "hardware
> >  > >  > configuration questions" I just would like to go back to a
> >  > >  > plain boot, actually lately it has been reboot after
> >  > >  > reboot, startup. I have tried everything that I can think
> >  > >  > of to try.
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > Thanks in advance.
> >  > >
> >  > >  Davidthere's a desktop icon labeled Mandrake Control
> >  > >  Center.  Click it and choose Boot and then Boot Config.
> >  > >  There's a check box to uncheck to turn off Aurora and a
> >  > >  button provided (upper right corner) for configuring lilo.
> >  >
> >  > Thanks Alan, but I was aware of the feature. It does not seem to work
> >  > completely, at least not here. LiLo, or what ever, still loads the
> >  > graphic with the names and sometimes it finishes in text and sometimes it
> >  > finishes in graphics.
> >  >
> >  > --
> >  > David Boles
> >  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> 
> --
> David Boles
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-- 
David Boles
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





[expert] ifup in LM 8.0

2001-05-27 Thread Luis Chardon



Hi,
 
I recently installed mandrake 8.0 on my box. After 
I configured the ppp dialup connection using linuxconf, I do an ifup ppp0 and it 
does not connect. After I do the command, it hangs up for some 15 seconds and 
then returns an error code 6, which on the pppd man page says that it is unable 
to lock the serial device. I tried to debug the scripts to see where it exactly 
is getting stuck and it is at the moment it calls ppp-watch.
 
If I do the connection with kppp, it works, so the 
modem is ok. Also minicom can open the modem and call any number.
 
This was working on 7.2.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Luis


[expert] Anyone with M8.0 playing heretic2

2001-05-27 Thread Praedor Tempus

This is driving me mad!  (OK, not really, it is just a frickin' game)  I have 
heretic2 from Loki.  I also have M8.0 installed on my Athlon 700 system.  
Under 7.2, same system, I could play heretic2 without problems - WITH 
soundfx.  Since installing 8.0, I can play heretic2 but it is without 
soundfx.  I cannot get soundfx to work, period.  Artsd wont release the sound 
device to the game and trying to run the game without artsd running causes it 
to crash.  

This suggests to me that something in 8.0 has altered with regard to sound 
and sound devices such that it is not really compatible with heretic2, myth2, 
or terminus (those are the only linux games I presently have so are all I can 
comment on).

Is there anyone in the list running Mandrake 8.0, preferably on an Athlon, 
who actually has any one of these games AND has soundfx working?
-- 
Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.




Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo

2001-05-27 Thread David Boles


- Original Message -
From: Alan Shoemaker
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:58:42 -0700
Subject : Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo

> David Boles wrote:
>  > I really don't want to hurt anyones feelings, but...
>  >
>  > I have had nothing but problems with L-M 8.0 and the new
>  > Aurora. Or maybe it is the Mandrake Control Center and the
>  > way it controls Aurora.
>  >
>  > Please . How do I remove Aurora and just configure L-M 8.0
>  > for "just plain old LiLo" like is was before L-M 8.0  Not
>  > to be a smart A$$, I don't really want any "hardware
>  > configuration questions" I just would like to go back to a
>  > plain boot, actually lately it has been reboot after
>  > reboot, startup. I have tried everything that I can think
>  > of to try.
>  >
>  > Thanks in advance.
>  
>  Davidthere's a desktop icon labeled Mandrake Control 
>  Center.  Click it and choose Boot and then Boot Config.  
>  There's a check box to uncheck to turn off Aurora and a 
>  button provided (upper right corner) for configuring lilo.

Thanks Alan, but I was aware of the feature. It does not seem to work
completely, at least not here. LiLo, or what ever, still loads the
graphic with the names and sometimes it finishes in text and sometimes it
finishes in graphics.

-- 
David Boles
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Re: [expert] Where is : wish ?

2001-05-27 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach [EMAIL PROTECTED] am Sun, May 27, 2001 at 01:22:16PM +0200:
> make xconfig
> 
> give me this error :  make : wish: Command not found
> 
> I did not find   where is thi package

urpmf knows where it is.

[askwar@teich askwar]$ urpmf wish
tk:/usr/bin/wish
tk:/usr/bin/wish8.3
tk:/usr/share/man/man1/wish.1.bz2
swig:/usr/lib/swig1.3/tcl/wish.i
tix:/usr/bin/tixwish
tix:/usr/bin/tixwish4.1.8.3
tix:/usr/share/man/man1/tixwish.1.bz2
blt:/usr/bin/bltwish
blt:/usr/bin/bltwish2.4
blt:/usr/bin/bltwish24
pilot-link-tcl:/usr/bin/piwish1.0.8.3
tclx:/usr/bin/wishx
AfterStep:/usr/X11R6/share/afterstep/feels/feel.Windowish
alsaplayer:/usr/share/doc/alsaplayer-0.99.32/wishlist.txt
php-devel:/usr/src/php-devel/extensions/calendar/jewish.c
php-manual_en:/usr/share/doc/php-manual_en-4.0.4pl1/function.jdtojewish.html
php-manual_en:/usr/share/doc/php-manual_en-4.0.4pl1/function.jewishtojd.html

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Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo

2001-05-27 Thread David Boles




- Original Message -
From: Alan Shoemaker
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:58:42 -0700
Subject : Re: [expert] Aurora Vs LiLo

> David Boles wrote:
>  > I really don't want to hurt anyones feelings, but...
>  >
>  > I have had nothing but problems with L-M 8.0 and the new
>  > Aurora. Or maybe it is the Mandrake Control Center and the
>  > way it controls Aurora.
>  >
>  > Please . How do I remove Aurora and just configure L-M 8.0
>  > for "just plain old LiLo" like is was before L-M 8.0  Not
>  > to be a smart A$$, I don't really want any "hardware
>  > configuration questions" I just would like to go back to a
>  > plain boot, actually lately it has been reboot after
>  > reboot, startup. I have tried everything that I can think
>  > of to try.
>  >
>  > Thanks in advance.
>  
>  Davidthere's a desktop icon labeled Mandrake Control 
>  Center.  Click it and choose Boot and then Boot Config.  
>  There's a check box to uncheck to turn off Aurora and a 
>  button provided (upper right corner) for configuring lilo.

Thanks Alan, I knew about that, but for some reason that only removes
PART of what I see I think that it 'stalls' when it tries to show the
graphic with all of the names.

-- 
David Boles
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Re: [expert] In But Not Out Of Loop

2001-05-27 Thread Pierre Fortin

SoloCDM wrote:
> 
> Every time I have a bash while, for or any other type of loop,
> with numbers processed and saved to a variable, the numbers are
> not in the variable outside the loop.  Although, the numbers are
> capable of use and manipulation in the variable, for reassigning
> the variable or recall, anytime before the loop ends.  How can the
> variable's content be available outside the loop?

bash allows access to in-loop defined/updated variables outside loops EXCEPT
those defined/updated inside functions; is this your problem?

Example:

#!/bin/bash
 
i=1
j=10
li=5
 
myloop() {
  li=$li*$li  # Note:  li takes from global but does not affect global
  lj=8# Note:  lj is not defined globally
}
 
echo -n "i:k:li = "
while [ $i -le $j ]; do
  let k=${i}*$li
  echo -n "$i:$k:$li "
  let i=$i+1
done
echo
echo "Note:  k not defined outside the loop but is available here..."
echo "i,j,[k],(li) at loop exit:  $i $j [$k] ($li)"
 
for n in 1 2 3; do
  let n=$n*$li
  echo "li defined outside function gives: $n"
done
 
# this loop gives errors 'cuz lj defined inside function
for n in 1 2 3; do
  let n=$n*$lj
  echo "lj defined INside function gives: $n"
done

Which gives:

# ./numtst
i:k:li = 1:5:5 2:10:5 3:15:5 4:20:5 5:25:5 6:30:5 7:35:5 8:40:5 9:45:5 10:50:5
Note:  k not defined outside the loop but is available here...
i,j,[k],(li) at loop exit:  11 10 [50] (5)
li defined outside function gives: 5
li defined outside function gives: 10
li defined outside function gives: 15
./numtst: let: n=1*: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "*")
lj defined INside function gives: 1
./numtst: let: n=2*: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "*")
lj defined INside function gives: 2
./numtst: let: n=3*: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "*")
lj defined INside function gives: 3

Error is due to n=$n*

HTH,
Pierre




Re: [expert] How do I add keybindings to KDE?

2001-05-27 Thread Hoyt

On Sunday 27 May 2001 02:16 am, s wrote:
> Isn't there a section/subsection for that in the Control Panel?


Yes, but it only allows you to modify existing actions, not add new ones -- 
unless I missed something.

Hoyt




Re: [expert] cdrom/cdr problems

2001-05-27 Thread rob

More info: The disks burned with LM8 are unable to read in windows also,
but i am able to burn and read disks in windows, as well as read the
disks burned in windows in LM. Sounds like a problem burning the disks
in LM, as opposed to a hardware problem. The burning software (gcombust,
eroaster) gives error messages.  



On 26 May 2001 12:09:00 -0500, rob wrote:
> I am having a problem accessing cdrs that i have burned in LM8. I have
> used gcombust which worked fine in 7.2. A disk burned with with gcombust
> on 7.2 works fine. Burning with gcombust seems to be working fine with
> the burbs completeing without error messgaes. The problem happens when I
> attempt to access the burned cd. the message I get when attempting to
> access the disk in konqueror is "to access file:mnt/cdrom/. You do not
> have access rights" Same message when I attempt to access it as root.
> The disk was burned as root. I would to know what the file permissions
> should be on /dev/cdrom  , /dev/cdrom2/ (the cr burner in scsi em). Any
> other suggestions would be great
> 
> 
> thank rob
> 
> 





Re: [expert] Where is : wish ?

2001-05-27 Thread Dan Swartzendruber

On Sun, 27 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have installed the  kernel  Mandrake 8.0
>
> cd /usr/src/linux
>
>
> make xconfig
>
> give me this error :  make : wish: Command not found
>
> I did not find   where is thi package

get tcl and tk packages.







[expert] Where is : wish ?

2001-05-27 Thread tateopfr

Hi,

I have installed the  kernel  Mandrake 8.0

cd /usr/src/linux


make xconfig

give me this error :  make : wish: Command not found

I did not find   where is thi package

make menuconfigis OK

Thanks

Best Regards

Pierfrancesco Tateo





[newbie] Fwd: xawdecode

2001-05-27 Thread Francisco Alcaraz Ariza

Dear folks


I put one message like this two weeks ago but not answer. I am trying again:

I am trying to install xawdecode under MDI 8.0; , tar, make and make install
don't gives me any error, but when I try to run I just have sound and the
programme closes immediately: " File /root/.xawdecode/yuvtab10_6 not found.

My tv-card runs fine, so the problem seems to be related with the
installation of decode tables or so on. Has anybody any idea?; Is there any
web page for this package? I haven't be able to find it

Thanks in advance

Francisco Alcaraz
Murcia (Spain)

---




[expert] Internal DNS problems

2001-05-27 Thread Bruce E. Harris

Hi,

I had my internal networking just find and did not yet set up an internal 
DNS.
But after installing icecast and tried to launch it my troubles began. 
Icecast
wants port 8000, same as Junkbuster, so I turned off Junkbuster to try out 
Icecast.
Just after Icecast started, Netscape could not find my internal webserver 
using it
FQDN "lucifuge.harrisherd.com". Now lucifuge, errors out, "name not in DNS" 
even
when I use the IP address along with any subdirectories e.g., 
"192.168.1.1/otto"
it translates to "lucifuge.harrisherd.com/otto" and errors out.

I have completely removed Icecast and tried to set up bind, and still no 
luck. Any suggestions on where to look? Seems Icecast made a DNS change 
somewhere, but I cant find it.

TIA

Bruce






Re: [expert] Wrong memory detection

2001-05-27 Thread Woody Green

Sarang Lakare wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am having problems with correct memory detection on two machines. Both 
> machines have 1.5GB and LM8.0 on both of these detects 1.0GB. On one of the 
> machines, 7.2 was installed earlier and it detected 1.5GB correctly.
> 
> 1. ASUS K7V (VIA) Motherboard
> 
> 2. SGI Zx10 workstation
> 
> I have tried appending mem=1536, mem=1500 etc but no help. Any ideas? 
> 
> Who is to blame? the linux kernel or the hardware vendor? 
> 
> thnaks!
> sarang
> 

You need an M afterwards: mem=1536M

  Woody

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Re: [expert] How do I add keybindings to KDE?

2001-05-27 Thread s

Isn't there a section/subsection for that in the Control Panel?
-s


On Saturday 26 May 2001 09:34 pm, you wrote:
> How do I add keybindings to KDE?
>
>  I can see where they are configured in the KDE Control Center, but don't
> see where you can add commands like launching apps with certain key
> combinations.
>
> Hoyt