Re: [expert] VMWare and INet sharing.

[Greg A. Bur]

Dave, 

Check and see if you have iptables installed on your computer.  If you
do the fix is fairly simple, just enable IP Masquerading(make sure ip
forwarding is enabled first) with:

iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o eth0 -s 192.168.0.2 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j
MASQUERADE

Obviously if you have a different external interface you would
substitute that for eth0 in the above command line.  As to the message
you're finding in your logs, no, I don't believe that is your problem.
Hopefully my little one-liner will help you on your way.  If not let me
know otherwise.


On 31 Jul 2001 06:49:44 -0400, DStevenson wrote:
> Has anyone set up a VMware Win98 VM on Mandrake 8.
> 
> I have Win98 running no problem, but I need Windows to share the internet 
> connection with the host box. 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] Mandrake 8 FREQ and VMware, Mozilla etc.

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Brian Schroeder wrote:

> >From: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Brian Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 8 FREQ and VMware, Mozilla etc.
> >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 07:56:45 +0300 (IDT)
> >
> >On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Brian Schroeder wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I have just taken the plunge and upgraded my 7.2 system to Mandrake Freq
> > > 20010619.  This has broken a few things, however.
> > >
> > > 1. Mozilla copied my Netscape config quite accurately.  It will find
> > > anything on the local intranet.
> > > However, it fails to find anything on the internet.  Konqeror is the
> >same.
> > > Mozilla sits there "Resolving host www", and eventually a pop-up
> > > appears: "The operation timed out when attempting to contact www...".

> >
> >Do you use manual proxy settings or an automatic script (.pac URL)? I have
> >had some problems with an automatic proxy script in the past, probably due
> >to problems with the javascript interpeter (as that script is actually
> >javascript).
>
> Yes, it does use a proxy.pac URL.  I have tried putting in manual proxy
> settings, and it seems to work OK now.

If you feel like debugging, the grab that script from the server (use
wget), and set the URL in mozilla to point to the local copy
(file:///proxy.pac) . Then start commenting out stuff until
mozilla will be able to work with it.

Also maybe visit mozilla's bugzilla...

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http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir

Re: [expert] Mandrake 8 FREQ and VMware, Mozilla etc.

[Brian Schroeder]

>From: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Brian Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 8 FREQ and VMware, Mozilla etc.
>Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 07:56:45 +0300 (IDT)
>
>On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Brian Schroeder wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I have just taken the plunge and upgraded my 7.2 system to Mandrake Freq
> > 20010619.  This has broken a few things, however.
> >
> > 1. Mozilla copied my Netscape config quite accurately.  It will find
> > anything on the local intranet.
> > However, it fails to find anything on the internet.  Konqeror is the 
>same.
> > Mozilla sits there "Resolving host www", and eventually a pop-up
> > appears: "The operation timed out when attempting to contact www...".
> >
> > I have installed Netscape 4.78 from cooker, and that still works fine.
> > I have triple checked the proxy, and other, settings in Mozilla.
> > Is there anything else I should be chasing up?
>
>Do you use manual proxy settings or an automatic script (.pac URL)? I have
>had some problems with an automatic proxy script in the past, probably due
>to problems with the javascript interpeter (as that script is actually
>javascript).

Yes, it does use a proxy.pac URL.  I have tried putting in manual proxy 
settings, and it seems to work OK now.

>
> >
> > 2. I can't get VMware to work.  It was very happy in 7.2.
> > I have removed and re-installed the VMware installation:
> > VMware-2.0.4-1142.i386.rpm
>
>I haven't used vmware for a long time, but one thing:
>Do you use kernel 2.4? If so: is this version of vmware good for kernel
>2.4? I figure that the vmware site will have more details about that.

This version of vmware is supposed to support Mandrake 8 and the 2.4 kernel. 
  But is that 2.4.3 only?
Is there a problem with the 2.4.5 that comes with FREQ?

>--
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>http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir
>
>


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[expert] VMWare and INet sharing.

[DStevenson]

Has anyone set up a VMware Win98 VM on Mandrake 8.

I have Win98 running no problem, but I need Windows to share the internet 
connection with the host box. I have set up VMware with bridged networking, I 
have even installed the shared inet connection software disk that WInME 
creates to allow Win9x machine to share connections. Was this a good idea? I 
have set up the inet sharing feature of LM8. I have the following message in 
my syslog which gives a FAIL warning on system boot.

ipvsadm: Are you sure that IP Virtual Server is supported by the kernel?

Does this have anything to do with the problem? I am using the stock kernel 
as installed by LM8.

The ipaddress is 192.168.0.1 of the host, Vmachine is 192.168.0.2, the 
gateway for the Vmachine is 192.168.0.1. DNS is disabled. Do I need to do 
more setting up of the LM config or this a Win problem?

The wife still insists on using Windoze, so I would prefer her to use VMware 
as opposed to muti-booting.

Thanks in advance.

Dave.

Re: [expert] Mandrake 8 FREQ and VMware, Mozilla etc.

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Brian Schroeder wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I have just taken the plunge and upgraded my 7.2 system to Mandrake Freq
> 20010619.  This has broken a few things, however.
>
> 1. Mozilla copied my Netscape config quite accurately.  It will find
> anything on the local intranet.
> However, it fails to find anything on the internet.  Konqeror is the same.
> Mozilla sits there "Resolving host www", and eventually a pop-up
> appears: "The operation timed out when attempting to contact www...".
>
> I have installed Netscape 4.78 from cooker, and that still works fine.
> I have triple checked the proxy, and other, settings in Mozilla.
> Is there anything else I should be chasing up?

Do you use manual proxy settings or an automatic script (.pac URL)? I have
had some problems with an automatic proxy script in the past, probably due
to problems with the javascript interpeter (as that script is actually
javascript).

>
> 2. I can't get VMware to work.  It was very happy in 7.2.
> I have removed and re-installed the VMware installation:
> VMware-2.0.4-1142.i386.rpm

I haven't used vmware for a long time, but one thing:
Do you use kernel 2.4? If so: is this version of vmware good for kernel
2.4? I figure that the vmware site will have more details about that.

-- 
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir

Re: [expert] ip_masq in 8.0 ?

[Stephen Boulet]

Why don't you just install the ipchains rpm? 

-- Stephen

On Monday 30 July 2001 04:29 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> That reminds me, I've been meaning to mention how big of a pain in the
> ass it is (well, not really, but I just think it could have been done
> better) that iptables is built in to the RPM-ised kernel by default which
> eliminates having ipchains built as a loadable kernel module.  IMHO,
> it'd be much more simple to build them both in as modules and just have
> the user do an insmod on whichever they plan on using if and when they need
> them.  Just my $0.02...
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Charlie

[expert] Mandrake 8 FREQ and VMware, Mozilla etc.

[Brian Schroeder]

Hi everyone,

I have just taken the plunge and upgraded my 7.2 system to Mandrake Freq 
20010619.  This has broken a few things, however.

1. Mozilla copied my Netscape config quite accurately.  It will find 
anything on the local intranet.
However, it fails to find anything on the internet.  Konqeror is the same.
Mozilla sits there "Resolving host www", and eventually a pop-up 
appears: "The operation timed out when attempting to contact www...".

I have installed Netscape 4.78 from cooker, and that still works fine.
I have triple checked the proxy, and other, settings in Mozilla.
Is there anything else I should be chasing up?

2. I can't get VMware to work.  It was very happy in 7.2.
I have removed and re-installed the VMware installation: 
VMware-2.0.4-1142.i386.rpm

The install gives me, at the end:

Starting VMware services:
   Virtual machine monitor [  OK  ]
   Virtual ethernet[  OK  ]
   Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0   [FAILED]
   Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet1 (background)[  OK  ]

The configuration of VMware 2.0.4 build-1142 for Linux for this running 
kernel
completed successfully.

When I then try to run vmware, i get Segmentation fault  and that's it.

What can I do here?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Brian Schroeder


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Re: [expert] CD Writing and the Via 686b southbridge

[Praedor Tempus]

Err...I don't believe that.  I have this chipset and I burn CDs without 
problems (CDRW) on my IDE2 interface.

On Monday 30 July 2001 06:41 pm, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Hi, all.
>
> Do I remember properly that because of the bug in this chip,
> that the LM80 2.4 kernel SRPMs have DMA disabled on IDE CDRs and
> CDRWs?  And that that means that creating CDR* disks from IDE
> CDR* devices is impossible on motherboards that have the 686b?
>
> Sincerely,
> Ron
> --
> ++
>
> | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |
> | Jefferson, LA  USA  http://ronandheather.dhs.org   |
> |
> | "Our computers and their computers are the same color. The |
> |  conversion should be no problem!" |
> |Unknown |
>
> ++

-- 
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[expert] CD Writing and the Via 686b southbridge

[Ron Johnson]

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Hi, all.

Do I remember properly that because of the bug in this chip, 
that the LM80 2.4 kernel SRPMs have DMA disabled on IDE CDRs and
CDRWs?  And that that means that creating CDR* disks from IDE
CDR* devices is impossible on motherboards that have the 686b?

Sincerely,
Ron
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[expert] build XFree86 error, pls help

[Steve Kieu]

Hi,

I got the error when building
XFree86-4.1.0-7mdk.src.rpm

+ find xc/doc/hardcopy -name '*.PS'
+ xargs gzip -f
+ groff -Tascii -ms xc/doc/misc/RELNOTES.ms
troff: fatal error: can't find macro file s
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.98163 (%build)


what is the cause and how to fix?

thanks in advance


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Re: [expert] allow non-root user to shutdown linux

[Ric Tibbetts]

You need to do a set UID to root, so that it will always run as root, no 
matter who launches. Then control execute permission with the group as 
you're trying to do.

Ric


Darcy Brodie wrote:

>Yes, I did ensure that I added the users to the shutdown group.  Sill does not
>work
>
>Darcy
>
>Stephen Boulet wrote:
>
>>You did add your users to the group shutdown, right?
>>
>>--stephen
>>
>>On Saturday 02 June 2001 02:39 pm, Darcy Brodie wrote:
>>
>>>Stephen Boulet wrote:
>>>
I find it goofy when changes in permissions take effect. You might have
to start a fresh konsole/xterm or logout before it works.

On Saturday 02 June 2001 02:17 pm, Darcy Brodie wrote:

>Stephen Boulet wrote:
>
>>On Saturday 02 June 2001 01:24 pm, Darcy Brodie wrote:
>>
>>>Hello
>>>I know that it isn't a good idea to give normal users root
>>>access, but I need to set up a couple of Mandrake boxes (they will
>>>only be in text mode, as these will be remote terminals to a Unix
>>>network) so that a normal user can shut down without having to
>>>login as root.  The process needs to be as simple as possible, to
>>>prevent the user from messing it up
>>>
>>>Thank you
>>>
>>>Darcy Brodie
>>>
>>You can make the shutdown command part of a group (say the shutdown
>>group).
>>
>>You can make 'shutdown' be an alias for shutdown -h now or so if you
>>want.
>>
>>-- Stephen
>>
>Thanks for the suggestion.  I located both the shutdown and the halt
>commands in the /sbin directory, changed their groups to shutdown
>(after I created the group), and added the  user to that group.
>However, when I attempt to run the shutdown command, I get an error
>saying
>shutdown: must  be root
>So then I tried the halt.  Again, I get the following error
>halt: must be superuser
>
>Both of these commands I have manually entered at the command line to
>ensure they were working before I attempted to create any aliases
>Here is the output from ls -l for both the shutdown and halt commands
>
>-rwxr-xr-x1rootshutdown15452Mar 802:37
>shutdown* -rwxr-xr-x1rootshutdown  7848Mar 8
>02:37halt*
>
>Darcy
>
>>>That is understandable, I guess.  However, since I made the changes, I have
>>>not only logged out, but also rebooted Linux completely.  Still not working
>>>
>>>Darcy
>>>
>
>

Re: [expert] Removing GRUB

[etharp]

as I under stand it fdisk /mbr will put back a copy of the MBR that was 
written when _last_ _installed_ winders. I bet the only ones that REALLY know 
are whomever the DDO was written by, what is the NAME of the DDO (diskmaster, 
drive master, data lifeguard?)

On Monday 30 July 2001 13:57, Mike Davis wrote:
> I installed Mandrake (probably 7.2 although I can't quite remember now) a
> few months ago for Uni work on a secondary hard drive, running Win98 on the
> other. All was fine and dandy until I realised I a) never got it running
> properly ($%&* software modem) and b) hardly used it any more. In addition
> I needed the drive for other uses so I Fdisk-ed the lot. I am now taken
> into a grub shell on boot-up (where, incidentally, the 'quit' command
> doesn't work) although I can get into Windows from there. 'Ah', you're
> thinking, 'Fdisk /mbr is the answer'. Unfortunately I have a DDO (Dynamic
> Drive Overlay) Bios patch on the primary Windoze drive so I can actually
> use it and taking out the MBRs might (although I don't actually know this)
> cause me to lose absolutely everything :(.
>
> SO: Is it possible to take out Grub using (basically) the grub shell and/or
> DOS without removing the DDO?
> If not, can it be done from Linux?
> If so, I assume that reinstalling Mandrake from the original boot floppy
> and CDs (which I haven't got with me right now or I'd have probably already
> tried it...) will fix it temporarily?
> Finally, if I reinstall Windows on the primary drive would it re-write the
> MBRs
> and so wipe GRUB from existance? Any ideas?
>
> I think that's everything... :)
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> That is All. <*>
>
> Mike Davis -> m.davis(at)ucl.ac.uk

[expert] samba 2.2.1a on Mandrake 7.2

[Buchan Milne]

For those of you debating how to compile samba from source etc, please 
confine yourselves to using RPMs unless you really know what you are 
doing. If you are running a samba PDC and happen to lose your 
MACHINE.SID file (for example), it will mean you will have to reset any 
file permissions on member NT/2000 machines, and possible recreate user 
profiles, and rejoin all machines to the domain

A number of changes have been made to packaging of samba on Mandrake 
(most configs have mode from /etc to /etc/samba), and there are scripts 
for migrating the config files to the new directory.

If you search on rpmfind.net, you will notice there is a source rpm of 
samba 2.2.1a for  for Mandrake 7.2 
(http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=samba)

So, download the src.rpm, make sure you have sane .rpmmacros and .rpmrc 
files in your home directory (see the Mandrake RPM howto if necessary) 
and rebuild the rpm:

rpm --rebuild samba-2.2.1a-3mdk72.src.rpm

Alternatively (if you trust me), you can download binaries from:

http://www.cae.co.za/~bgmilne/mandrake/samba-2.2.1 (built on a stock 
Mandrake 7.2 machine - no updates even -  though they have not been 
tested much)

You will notice the smb.conf file (probably created as 
/etc/samba/smb.conf.rpmnew) has been modified. It should now be roughly 
10 lines to uncomment to make a samba PDC, and about another 2 lines to 
have automatically created login scripts. If you guys have any more 
suggestions for the smb.conf file, please let me know 

Buchan

P.S. Even though the migration scripts have been tested, now is not a 
bad time to backup some of the critical samba files (/etc/smbpasswd, 
/etc/smb.conf, /etc/smbusers, /etc/MACHINE.SID, /etc/lmhosts for starters)

P.P.S Sorry this is so late, I am subscribed in digest ...

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Re: [expert] problem with InteractiveBastille

[Dan Woods]

>  I am trying to configure iptables.
> When I run InteractiveBastille, it bombs out with the following error
> message.
> 
> InteractiveBastille
> Using Tk user interface module.
> Only displaying questions relevant to the current configuration.
> Can't locate Bastille_Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/ /usr/lib/Bastille) at
> /usr/sbin/InteractiveBastille line 270.

You need the following packages (from your CD or mirror site)
   Bastille-Tk-module-1.2.0.rc3-0.1mdk
   Bastille-Curses-module-1.2.0.rc3-0.1mdk
   Bastille-1.2.0.rc3-0.1mdk

Thanks...Dan.

Re: [expert] Samba Source / Binary RPMS for 7.2

[J. C. Woods]

Vincent Danen wrote:

> I have plenty of room for these rpms and this is exactly the purpose
> of www.rpmhelp.net.  Please visit the site for instructions on how to
> go about contributing packages... I have over 20GB of available room
> (but if we get that many files in there, we might want mirrors).
> 
> http://www.rpmhelp.net/
> 
> For an example of what the packages will look like, look at the
> sidebar Traktopel RPMS and Odyssey RPMS links.
> 
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> 
> Current Linux kernel 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin uptime: 3 days 22 hours 9 minutes.
> 
>   
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Michael, Franki, and Vincent,

This is the kind of synergy that has resulted in Mandrake being the best
distro going (yes, hopefully as many as possible took advantage of
Mandrake's recent IPO). Vincent is willing to get involved so we now
have the beginning of a plan for providing a wider variety of src.rpm
files for LMDK7.2. I am willing to dedicate a test box running LMDK7.2
for this purpose. Obviously, to avoid duplication testing, some
coordination in who is testing what will be needed. I will also need
some time to install and setup the LMDK7.2 test box. In order to insure
test consistency, what are your thoughts on how it should be set up,
i.e. what base installation should exist prior to any testing of new
src.rpms?

I have both LMDK8.0 and LMDK7.2 servers runnning on my network, and I
agree with Vincent that both are very stable. However, for my
gateway/firewall server I have stayed with LMDK7.2 because of all of the
months of customizations that I have completed. One of the most
important being my rules for ipchains, and I am not ready to re-do this
work with the iptables in kernel-2.4. Just like you, Vincent, when I do
get ready to upgrade, I like to do a complete re-install of the newer
version. My past experience has taught me that this is the best way to
go.

At any rate, let us all stay posted on how we want to handle the rpm
project. Special thanks to Vincent, and all the great folks at Mandrake
(hurry back, civileme, Vincent is working his butt off)

drjung 
-- 

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Re: [expert] CD Writing

[Glen Sagers]

Yes, EasyCD creator does support iso's.   I realize this is a linux question,
but given the complexities you're running into

To do it in Ezcd, choose file... burn image, then in the file type dropdown,
select all files (default is ezcd's image format), find your ISO, and burn it.
I do this all the time, and it works fine, provided your ISO is ok.  I'd
reccomend checking the image with md5 (dos port is available, search the web)
before burning.

Note, the above commands vary between versions of ezcd, but they're similar.

Finally, cdrecord isn't too tough, if you've already got the drives installed,
and xcdroast did come with LM7.1, and is available for 8, with a little work.

Glen Sagers

Rusty Carruth wrote:

> Rusty Carruth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > ...
> > > The reality is if the windoze Adaptec software can easily
> > > create the Mandrake 8 CD from an ISO, but this is something I don't know
> > > either. That software, like most free and cheap software, came with no
> > > printed docs to check.
> >
> > I'll get back to this question at the end.
>
> Which I never did, sorry.
>
> Even the crippled version that I had a while back would do images, AFAICR...
>
> If you still need this, let me know (offlist probably best) and I'll dig
> around and see if I can find out how its done...
>
> rc

Re: [expert] Notebook firewall setup

[Glen Sagers]

Check out the following site, it's kind of an repository for firewall howtos, etc...
http://www.linuxfirewall.com

The linux router project may also have some applicable information.
http://www.linuxrouter.org

It seems to be down right now, but there are mirrors-search google for linux router
project.
Glen Sagers

Rusty Carruth wrote:

> etharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mandrake (at least since 7.1) is  "optimized" for at least pentium class
> > machines, I suggest you try to find a older copy of redhat (6.0, I am sure
> > would run) or the 7.0 i486arch version of mandrake. But bud, you are going to
> > make a compairision then you are tieing onehand and both feet and one eye
> > against a 500 kilo gorilla
>
> Oh, I don't know.  My firewall at home is Mandrake 7.0.2, which was the only
> 486 mandrake available back when I built the box.  ITs been running as my
> firewall quite happily for a long time now.  (The current box is a 'high-speed
> 486 dx2-66' that replaced a slow-speed 486 dx33 ;-)  I use dialup at 33.6 only...
>
> > On Sunday 29 July 2001 11:10, Gavin wrote:
> > > Dear Experts,
> > >
> > > I need your help, I have been given an old Toshiba DynaBook EZ 486, I want
> > > to use it as a floppy bootup firewall for my SOHO system, any suggestions
> > > on software to be used? also I need to get the manuals in english,
> > > everything is in Japanese. thanks for your help in advance.
>
> Argh.  That's a pain.  Hmm.  System manuals.  Did you look on the Toshiba
> web site?
>
> Back to the software.  I'm using Mandrake 7.0.2 on my 486 boxes right now.
> Red Hat should work also - there was a time when RH worked on anything from
> 486 up but I don't know if that's still the case.  Same with Slackware and
> SuSe - they used to but I don't know any more.
>
> You'll need to install, as a minimum, the base system, compiler, and firewall
> tools.  After making a bunch a firewalls, I've started installing as much
> as possible and then going back and disabling all un-needed services.  This
> makes it easier to run those tools that you'd not normally think to install,
> like kppp and the ppp monitoring tools (whose names I forget, but which are
> really cool to run ;-).  That way you don't have to go back and install them
> later.  But I'm lazy ;-)
>
> (where 'making a bunch of firewalls' means about 3 or 4 or so in the last year...)
>
> rc
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[expert] where is lnx4win

[Tzafrir Cohen]

Hi

Does Mandrake 8.0 still contain lnx4win ?

install.htm refers to the directory /lnx4win on the CD, which does not
exiist (not on the first installation CD of the GPLed iso, and not in an
FTP mirror I tried). Also gone is /dosutils/autoboot

A search of the availble online resources shows no mention of the fact
that they're missing (and there is still the nice demo on the web site. It
does not refer to WinME, BTW) 

[ I know that working with lnx4win for a long peiod of time is considered
harmful for one's patinets, but repartitioning can have some unexpected
side-effects which I rather avoid on several occasions ;-) ]

Can anybody point me to either:

* a place from which to download it 
* a way for me to have know it is not availble

Thanks in advance

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[expert] Removing GRUB

[Mike Davis]

I installed Mandrake (probably 7.2 although I can't quite remember now) a
few months ago for Uni work on a secondary hard drive, running Win98 on the
other. All was fine and dandy until I realised I a) never got it running
properly ($%&* software modem) and b) hardly used it any more. In addition I
needed the drive for other uses so I Fdisk-ed the lot. I am now taken into a
grub shell on boot-up (where, incidentally, the 'quit' command doesn't work)
although I can get into Windows from there. 'Ah', you're thinking, 'Fdisk
/mbr is the answer'. Unfortunately I have a DDO (Dynamic Drive Overlay) Bios
patch on the primary Windoze drive so I can actually use it and taking out
the MBRs might (although I don't actually know this) cause me to lose
absolutely everything :(.

SO: Is it possible to take out Grub using (basically) the grub shell and/or
DOS without removing the DDO?
If not, can it be done from Linux?
If so, I assume that reinstalling Mandrake from the original boot floppy and
CDs (which I haven't got with me right now or I'd have probably already
tried it...) will fix it temporarily?
Finally, if I reinstall Windows on the primary drive would it re-write the
MBRs
and so wipe GRUB from existance? Any ideas?

I think that's everything... :)

Thank you.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] CD Writing]

[DM]

have you guys tried burning cds using cdrecord? 

it works fine for me. i never used windows to write my
cds. when copying a cd, i just dd the cd to an iso
file and 'cdrecord' it. 

just curious if you have tried this ...  

--- Randy Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> ATTACHMENT part TEXT message/rfc822 
> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:56:35 -0400
> From: Randy Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [expert] CD Writing
> 
> With the Adaptec software (assuming it is Easy CD
> Creator and has not
> been crippled), it is easy to create a bootable CD
> from what you've
> downloaded (assuming it is a bootable iso image).  
> 
> What you need to do is choose File -> Create CD from
> Disc Image.  (This
> is the key step to make the difference between
> making a disk with a copy
> of what you've downloaded vs. making the CD into a
> "real" CD.)
> 
> Then, when the menu comes up to let you browse for
> images, change the
> extension from whatever it defaults to (which is the
> Adaptec
> "proprietary" format) to "iso", choose the image,
> check your options,
> and burn it.  I'd tell you more about this, but I
> can't call my
> CD-Creator up right now -- you want to do things
> like close the disk and
> make sure the format you choose supports a bootable
> disk.  (I think the
> choices are ISO 9660 and Joliet, I think you want
> ISO 9660.)
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Randy Kramer
> 
> Felix Miata wrote:
> > The reality is if the windoze Adaptec software can
> easily
> > create the Mandrake 8 CD from an ISO, but this is
> something I don't know
> > either.
> 
> 
> 
> 


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[expert] problem with interactive bastille, and Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: linux-mandrake.com: host not found) (fwd)

[Rusty Carruth]

Foo, this is strange.  Lets try again...

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problem with InteractiveBastille
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"Sheldon E.
Newhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>  I am trying to configure iptables. 
> When I run
InteractiveBastille, it bombs out with the following error
> message.
> 
> InteractiveBastille
>
Using Tk user interface module.
> Only displaying questions relevant to the current
configuration.
> Can't locate Bastille_Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib
> ...
> 
> Any
ideas?

you need to go to the CPAN site (www.cpan.org, I think), download the
Bastille_TK
package, and install it.

If you have done this, then you need to make sure that its in the
'@INC'
'path'...

rc



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[expert] problem with InteractiveBastille

[Sheldon E. Newhouse]

Hello,
 I am trying to configure iptables. 
When I run InteractiveBastille, it bombs out with the following error
message.

InteractiveBastille
Using Tk user interface module.
Only displaying questions relevant to the current configuration.
Can't locate Bastille_Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/ /usr/lib/Bastille) at
/usr/sbin/InteractiveBastille line 270.   

Any ideas?
 TIA,
 -sen

Re: [expert] Samba Source / Binary RPMS for 7.2 Samba with win2000pro?

[Vincent Danen]

On Sat Jul 28, 2001 at 03:27:14PM -0500, Michael D. Viron wrote:

> At 03:16 AM 07/29/2001 +0800, Franki wrote:
> >Thats fantastic news, I thought I was the only one paranoid enough to not
> >want to run anything new when I am having a joy run with 7.2 (you should
> >get them added to the contribs section of rpmfind:
> >http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/index.html
> >
> >you'd be very popular.
> 
> Many of the SRPMS have been giving me a 'fg: no job control' error message.
>  Is there any way to compile such SRPMS using the stock rpm 3.0.5 in mdk 7.2?
> 
> Let me know guys, as if I can figure that out, we can get a newer postfix.

Unsupported macros, like %makeinstal or %make and such.  You will have
to re-write some of the spec for this.  Your best bet is to have an
8.0 machine handy where you can do:

rpm --eval %makeinstall

and copy the output directly into the 7.2 spec.

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Re: [expert] Samba Source / Binary RPMS for 7.2

[Vincent Danen]

On Sun Jul 29, 2001 at 04:53:25PM -0500, J. C. Woods wrote:

> Gentlemen,
> 
> One note of caution, I rebuilt, from the src rpm, bind-9.1.1-1mdk for my
> LMDK7.2 - glibc-2.1 system, and the rebuild went fine. I had my three
> needed binary rpms for bind-9.1.1-1mdk (devel & utils included) all
> neatly copied to "/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686", as they should be after the
> "rpm --rebuild" command is ran. They compiled without errors. HOWEVER,
> upon doing a test install, they would not install correctly. They had
> some "no job control" errors. Needless to say, I did not want to use
> them.
> 
> Maybe somewhere in the source code is "REQUIRES_GLIBC_2.2". I am not
> sure about that but they would not work on my glibc-2.1 platform, even
> after compiling the src rpm for my system 
> 
> Just some shared thoughts amongst friends

People... yes, pay attention to this.  I can tell you from personal
experience that rebuilding cooker srpms for 7.2 directly without
modification is *not* a good idea.  Trust me... if this worked, making
updates would be *so* simple.

A number of rpm macros were added in 8.0 that are not available in
7.2.. and a few have been introduced in cooker I believe.  These will
*not* work, so if you get the package to rebuild fine (entirely
possible), you will have problems with %pre or %post scripts that use
the macros 7.2 is not aware of, resulting in the above problems.

You *will* need to go through the spec file and test the macros... Off
the top of my head, I don't recall if %make or %makeinstall work in
7.2 (I don't think so), so you will need to change them or make
modifications to your ~/.rpmmacros file.

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Re: [expert] Samba Source / Binary RPMS for 7.2

[Vincent Danen]

On Sun Jul 29, 2001 at 08:11:25PM -0500, Michael D. Viron wrote:

> I would have to say that the people working on this are serious about
> building srpms / rpms that are up-to-date, and will work on Mdk 7.2...  I
> don't know if
> we will end up providing rpms for everything (since some srpms rebuild with
> no problems), but we will try to provide srpms / rpms at least for those
> that don't build properly.  If we do want to provide 7.2 rpms for all
> cooker srpms (and our modified ones), then we should see if Mandrake will
> provide us with some disk space on their ftp servers (or others), since I
> personally don't have the disk space for it.
> 
> I've tested 132 RPMs so far, which is nowhere near completed (results are
> attached).  I just did a du, and there is another 1.5 GB worth of srpms.

I have plenty of room for these rpms and this is exactly the purpose
of www.rpmhelp.net.  Please visit the site for instructions on how to
go about contributing packages... I have over 20GB of available room
(but if we get that many files in there, we might want mirrors).

http://www.rpmhelp.net/

For an example of what the packages will look like, look at the
sidebar Traktopel RPMS and Odyssey RPMS links.

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Re: [expert] Samba Source / Binary RPMS for 7.2 Samba with win2000pro?

[Vincent Danen]

On Sun Jul 29, 2001 at 03:16:00AM +0800, Franki wrote:

> Thats fantastic news, I thought I was the only one paranoid enough to not
> want to run anything new when I am having a joy run with 7.2 (you should
> get them added to the contribs section of rpmfind:
> http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/index.html
> 
> you'd be very popular.

Or upload them to ftp.rpmhelp.net/incoming (srpms only please) and I
will rebuild and add them to the downloads pages for the 7.2 rpms
(currently supporting 7.2 and 8.0) on www.rpmhelp.net.

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Re: [expert] Samba Source / Binary RPMS for 7.2

[Vincent Danen]

On Sat Jul 28, 2001 at 12:36:29PM -0700, Julia A. Case wrote:

> Quoting Franki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > I am wondering if there are alot of other people who are not prepared to use
> > mdk8 on servers yet?
> > 
> 
> I'm using Mandrake 8.0 on a production server with no problems...  Well 
> other than when I upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0 half my shadow password file 
> disappeared...  Luckily I had backups...  The server is a fairly busy web 
> and mail server, and I run all sorts of 'extras' for my users.  

Two primary webservers here are running Mandrake 8.0.  Absolutely no
problems with either one... however, I did a fresh install and not an
upgrade (personal preference).  No complaints, however... and one of
these 8.0 servers has been slashdotted a few times in the past few
months, and since it survived *that* I suspect they could survive just
about anything.  They take quite a beating and keep going.  =)

8.0 works just fine in a production environment.

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[Fwd: Re: [expert] CD Writing]

[Randy Kramer]

With the Adaptec software (assuming it is Easy CD Creator and has not
been crippled), it is easy to create a bootable CD from what you've
downloaded (assuming it is a bootable iso image).  

What you need to do is choose File -> Create CD from Disc Image.  (This
is the key step to make the difference between making a disk with a copy
of what you've downloaded vs. making the CD into a "real" CD.)

Then, when the menu comes up to let you browse for images, change the
extension from whatever it defaults to (which is the Adaptec
"proprietary" format) to "iso", choose the image, check your options,
and burn it.  I'd tell you more about this, but I can't call my
CD-Creator up right now -- you want to do things like close the disk and
make sure the format you choose supports a bootable disk.  (I think the
choices are ISO 9660 and Joliet, I think you want ISO 9660.)

Hope this helps,
Randy Kramer

Felix Miata wrote:
> The reality is if the windoze Adaptec software can easily
> create the Mandrake 8 CD from an ISO, but this is something I don't know
> either.

Re: [expert] CD Writing (including micro how-to)

[Rusty Carruth]

Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
> The reality is if the windoze Adaptec software can easily
> create the Mandrake 8 CD from an ISO, but this is something I don't know
> either. That software, like most free and cheap software, came with no
> printed docs to check.

I'll get back to this question at the end.

> I've browsed Linux/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO and its FTP link to various
> cdrecord versions. My initial impression is this is a bear to get set up
> - unless, my "easy" (default) installation of Mandrake 7.1 has already
> done what I need.

Probably, if you got certain pieces you need.

> Questions:
> 
> 1-Can it be said unequivocally that my Mandrake 7.1 is already set up &
> ready to burn?

No, but you can find out easily enough.  Try running xcdroast (and I'm sure
others will pipe up with other cd recording programs ;-)  If you don't
have xcdroast installed, and if either the download won't kill you or
you've already got xcdroast rpm somewhere, try installing it and then
running it.  If it works ,then you are home free.

> 2-If 1 is false, is there an easier way than digesting the whole of the
> (not too good IMO) HOWTO to figure out what is and is not already
> prepared?

1 - install xcdroast (and mkisofs, and cdrecord (as I recall, this list
may be wrong)) and see if it works.  While I could use cdrecord
instead, xcdroast is too easy to use to switch ;-) / 2

2 - if that fails, make sure scsi is detected in your kernel on boot up
(look in /var/log/messages for 'SCSI').  If scsi is not in your
kernel or modules then it must be installed.  At this point I'd
probably just burn the 8.0 on windblows and make sure I install
cd stuff on the 8.0 install (which, by the way, seems to work 
best if you don't UPGRADE the 7.x but rather install on blank
(or newly-formatted) partitions).

> 
> 3-Is there someplace better than the HOWTO to explain CD writing under
> Linux?

Here on the mandrake expert list  ;-)

> I've had this writer since October. All the OS/2 CDRW setup instructions
> were so intimidating I've still not even tried. I'm hoping to migrate to
> Mandrake from OS/2 at some point, and hopefully this CD writing project
> will be the first useful step, if I can get over it. Thanks for whatever
> help anyone can provide in getting me CDRW literate.

The Readers Digest version of a Short howto (aka a micro how-to):

Once scsi is in your kernel (you *are* using real scsi and not scsi emulation?),
and cdrecord, mkisofs, and xcdroast are installed, then run 'xcdroast' (you MAY
have to do this as root, or make sure permissions are right).

Run through the setup, and select the correct source and destination drives
and so forth.  Be aware that 'raw partition' means exactly that - no file system
will survive on that partition if you write anything there using xcdroast.  
Use files in the directory structure instead...  (The most important parts
are under the CD setup and HD setup tabs, but its a good idea to check the
others also)

Oh - xcdroast wants iso images to end in 'raw', not 'iso'.  So you may want
to rename your iso's to raw's so that xcdroast will automatically find them
for you in the below step.  (It can USE any filename, but the nifty little
dropdown of files will not see it unless it ends in .raw)

To make a cd from an iso image, hit the 'master cd' button. Then hit the
'write image' button, enter the correct 'write from' file, check your 
other settings (like speed and destination ("write image to"), and hit
'start write image'.

Later on, you can explore the other buttons, like "Master from/to", 
"Set image-type", etc.  but for making cds from images, this is all
you should need.

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RE: [expert] CD Writing

[Gregor Maier]

On 30-Jul-2001 Felix Miata wrote:
 
> My immediate goal is to get a bootable Mandrake 8 CD and install it in
> place of 7.1 on #3. 
> 
> The only CD writing I've done so far is with the windoze software that
> came with the Yamaha (Adaptec whatever), installed on the SCSI HD in the
> external SCSI HD, using machine #2 & windoze. I've not yet burned from
> an ISO. I'd *like* to do all current and future writing using Mandrake
> Linux if possible, but not if it means an elaborate setting up in 7.1
> that will be summarily scrapped in order to replace the 7.1 installation
> with 8.0. The reality is if the windoze Adaptec software can easily
> create the Mandrake 8 CD from an ISO, but this is something I don't know
> either. That software, like most free and cheap software, came with no
> printed docs to check.
> 
> I've browsed Linux/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO and its FTP link to various
> cdrecord versions. My initial impression is this is a bear to get set up
> - unless, my "easy" (default) installation of Mandrake 7.1 has already
> done what I need.
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 1-Can it be said unequivocally that my Mandrake 7.1 is already set up &
> ready to burn?
Probably yes. You have to install the cdrecord rpm if this isn't already done.
If it is installed do a cdrecord -scanbus. This will scan your scsi bus for
your cd recorder. Remember the three numbers you get in the line of your
recorder. Then you just have to do a 
cdrecord -v -eject speed=xx dev=a,b,c filename.iso
where xx is the speed of your cdrecorder. a,b,c are the values you got from
cdrecord -scanbus (a is the number of the scsi bus, b is the scsi id, and is
the lun.) 


> 
> 2-If 1 is false, is there an easier way than digesting the whole of the
> (not too good IMO) HOWTO to figure out what is and is not already
> prepared?
You want to try xcdroast (doesn't come with LM AFAIK). It's a
quite good graphical frontend for cd-burning. You must have mkisofs and cdrecord
installed in.
 
> 3-Is there someplace better than the HOWTO to explain CD writing under
> Linux?
The actual CD-Burning is easy. I think the HOWTO is quite good altough it
doesn't disdinguish between basic and advanced issues.

If I want to burn a data cd on my system is just do a 
mkisofs -v -R -J -T -l -o filname.iso directory-with-data 
cdrecord -v -eject speed=xx dev=a,b,c filename.iso
That's it...

Or I use xcdroast.

Note on burning under windoze:
I think you got adaptec easy cd cdreator, which supports burning iso files. But
have another name for it (i think something like CD-Image or RAW,...)

Hope this helps
Gregor


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make mrproper? maybe/maybe not (was Re[2]: [expert] KErnel 2.4.7)

[Rusty Carruth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have some curios things, while im compiling Kernel 2.4.7 too.
> I was glad to see that there was a built in module for my new networkcard
> (rtl), but after i'm made 'make mrproper' this option disappers. 

I think I blew up a LM 7.2 kernel source install beyond recovery by
doing a make mrproper.  I cannot guarantee that's what did it, but here's
what I do know:

1 - I think I'd built an SMP kernel for the machine and installed it.
2 - I fiddled around a while with hardware problems with IRQ conflicts
(trying to get parallel port to be irq driven, and with getting
my ethernet card to work).
3 - I changed ethernet cards back to 3c509
4 - I fiddled around some more.
5 - I saved the . files in /usr/src/kernel*, did a make mrproper,
and tried to config and build a new kernel.  I had lost a
critical file (I forget the name right now, but if anyone
wants to know I can go find it).  I tried rpm -i --force
the kernel parts again (source, headers, and something else
I think), no joy.

So, I decided to just be lazy and re-install the entire system (since
I had a spare partition and since I'd not done anything important to 
that machine yet anyway ;-).

So you see there's a lot of places where I coulda blown something up,
but next time I'm going to tar cf myself a copy of my linux source tree
before I do a make mrproper!

and, of course:  YMMV!!!

rc


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when to make the leap from 7.2 to 8.x (was Re[2]: [expert] Samba Source / Binary RPMS for 7.2)

[Rusty Carruth]

(Executive summary:  "Me too"  ;-)

David Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Franki wrote:
> ...
> > I don't know if I am alone or not, but I still use 7.2 for anything
> > important, and won't swap till 8.1 (assuming it has no hassles in its first
> > months...)
> >
> > 
> >
> > I am wondering if there are alot of other people who are not prepared to use
> > mdk8 on servers yet?
> >
> ...
> ... If I had a requirement for functionality offered in 8.0 that was not
> offered in 7.2, I'd make the leap. 

I ran 8.0 on what was going to be my firewall before it became the kid's computer
(my plans changed and I decided to switch ALL the machines around, but thats a 
different story, not at all related to 8.0).  I wanted to go to 8.0 because
I wanted ipchains (or is that iptables - yeah, that's the ticket ;-)

Real Soon Now I'm going to have the machine musical chairs sorted out and will
have a pentium class machine for the firewall just so I can run a current kernel,
as I'm too lazy to go through the hassle of upgrading my Mandrake 7.0.1 system
to the point of being able to run a 2.4.x kernel.

> Depending on how badly I needed it, I would
> probably wait for 8.1. Mandrake 8.0 is a great leap forward, but with any great
> leap, it takes a while for the ripples in the pond to settle before the water is
> smooth again.

Well, from what I've observed here on the list, it looks like I want to
get the improved kde stuff real soon now also, but I too am waiting for 
at least 8.1, maybe 8.2, before switching.  It is something of a hassle
that it seems so hard to find rpms and stuff for 7.2 any more...
(I'm getting *really* tired of konquerer dying when a DNS lookup fails!)


On a completely different note:

Hope some folks managed to get in on the Mandrake IPO!  I wanted to but just
did not get all my ducks lined up before it was too late... Oh, well...

rc


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Re[2]: [expert] Notebook firewall setup

[Rusty Carruth]

etharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mandrake (at least since 7.1) is  "optimized" for at least pentium class 
> machines, I suggest you try to find a older copy of redhat (6.0, I am sure 
> would run) or the 7.0 i486arch version of mandrake. But bud, you are going to 
> make a compairision then you are tieing onehand and both feet and one eye 
> against a 500 kilo gorilla

Oh, I don't know.  My firewall at home is Mandrake 7.0.2, which was the only
486 mandrake available back when I built the box.  ITs been running as my
firewall quite happily for a long time now.  (The current box is a 'high-speed
486 dx2-66' that replaced a slow-speed 486 dx33 ;-)  I use dialup at 33.6 only...

> On Sunday 29 July 2001 11:10, Gavin wrote:
> > Dear Experts,
> >
> > I need your help, I have been given an old Toshiba DynaBook EZ 486, I want
> > to use it as a floppy bootup firewall for my SOHO system, any suggestions
> > on software to be used? also I need to get the manuals in english,
> > everything is in Japanese. thanks for your help in advance.

Argh.  That's a pain.  Hmm.  System manuals.  Did you look on the Toshiba
web site?

Back to the software.  I'm using Mandrake 7.0.2 on my 486 boxes right now.
Red Hat should work also - there was a time when RH worked on anything from
486 up but I don't know if that's still the case.  Same with Slackware and
SuSe - they used to but I don't know any more.

You'll need to install, as a minimum, the base system, compiler, and firewall
tools.  After making a bunch a firewalls, I've started installing as much
as possible and then going back and disabling all un-needed services.  This
makes it easier to run those tools that you'd not normally think to install,
like kppp and the ppp monitoring tools (whose names I forget, but which are
really cool to run ;-).  That way you don't have to go back and install them
later.  But I'm lazy ;-)

(where 'making a bunch of firewalls' means about 3 or 4 or so in the last year...)

rc


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[expert] got postfix-20010709snapshot-3 working with mdk7.2...

[Franki]

Hi Michael and list,

I had some success, postfix has started and is running fine.
After reading through the specfile, I determined that the db3 check has
nothing to do with it requiring db3 instead of glibcdevel, the error message
about missing db3 when you try to install is just there for redhat7.1
compatibility...

so I want to recompile it again for you,, this time removing the message
about db3..

I think its at line 51, which is:

%define REQUIRES_DB3 1


I am assuming that sets the requirement for db3

then further down the list, we have this:

%if %{REQUIRES_DB3}
Requires:db3
BuildRequires:glibc-devel
%endif

which looks for REQUIRES_DB3 and if it finds it, it "requires" glibcdevel,
so thats all good...

except that it prints an error message and requires a --nodeps install.

so I am not sure what to change to make it check for glibc-devel instead of
DB3,,, can you enlighten me here? and I will do the job and send you the
binary RPM...

One last thing,,

in the specfile it states that postfix requires a unique uid and gid for
postfix and assigns uid and gid 89 to it..

(lines 86 and 87):
%define uid 89
%define gid 89

problem is that on my 7.2 box, 89 was assigned to sympa, so I had to change
the uid and gid for sympa to 90 to get postfix to install, otherwise it
errors with a:

error: gid 89 not unique message..

should we change that as well?

if so, is there a gid that is "for postfix" with mandrake?

rgds

Frank

Re: [expert] NTP broadcast-multicast

[etharp]

might help to put the IP port number on the address for the broadcast 
address, and make sure it is allowed through the firewall? just a guess.



On Monday 30 July 2001 05:35, Roman Rodriguez Perea wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I would like to synchronize several computers to a NTP server in a LAN
> not connected to the internet. My NTP server uses its own
> clock and the NTP clients do not known server's IP. Therefore I need to
> use broadcast or multicast synchronization.
>
> In the server machine, I run xntpd daemon using the following
> /etc/ntp.conf file:
>
> server  127.127.1.0# local clock
> fudge   127.127.1.0 stratum 10
>
> driftfile /etc/ntp/drift
> broadcast 224.0.1.1
>
> authenticate no
> disable auth
>
> In every client machine, xntpd is running with following /etc/ntp.conf
> file:
>
> driftfile /etc/ntp/drift
> multicastclient 224.0.1.1  # listen on default 224.0.1.1
>
> authenticate no
> disable auth
>
> When I try to start xntpd into client machine I get the following:
>
> Jul 26 13:13:51 roman xntpd[1892]: bind() fd 9, family 2, port 123, addr
> e101, in_classd=1 flags=0 fails: Address already in use
> Jul 26 13:13:51 roman xntpd[1892]: ...multicast address 224.0.1.1 using
> wildcard socket
>
> And when I run the ntpq I get the following:
>
> ntpq> peer
> No association ID's returned
>
> I have a Mandrake installation.
> And then the problem is that the computers clients don't synchronize
> with the computer server.
>
> Best regards. Thanks.
>
>
> --
>
> | Roman Rodriguez Perea   | Visual Tools, S.A.  | Tel [+34] 91
> | 729 48 44 | Technology Dept.| Isla Graciosa , 1   |
> | Tel [+34] 91 358 52 36 | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | E-28034
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> |   ||


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[expert] NTP broadcast-multicast

[Roman Rodriguez Perea]

 
Hello all,
I would like to synchronize several computers to a NTP server in a LAN
not connected to the internet. My NTP server uses its own
clock and the NTP clients do not known server's IP. Therefore I need
to use broadcast or multicast synchronization.
In the server machine, I run xntpd daemon using the following /etc/ntp.conf
file:
    server  127.127.1.0    # local
clock
    fudge   127.127.1.0 stratum 10
    driftfile /etc/ntp/drift
    broadcast 224.0.1.1
    authenticate no
    disable auth
In every client machine, xntpd is running with following /etc/ntp.conf
file:
    driftfile /etc/ntp/drift
    multicastclient 224.0.1.1  # listen on default
224.0.1.1
    authenticate no
    disable auth
When I try to start xntpd into client machine I get the following:
Jul 26 13:13:51 roman xntpd[1892]: bind() fd 9, family 2, port 123,
addr e101, in_classd=1 flags=0 fails: Address already in use
Jul 26 13:13:51 roman xntpd[1892]: ...multicast address 224.0.1.1
using wildcard socket
And when I run the ntpq I get the following:
ntpq> peer
No association ID's returned
I have a Mandrake installation.
And then the problem is that the computers clients don't synchronize
with the computer server.
Best regards. Thanks.
 
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| Technology Dept.    | Isla Graciosa , 1   | Tel [+34] 91 358 52 36 |
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|  [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |    |
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [expert] ip_masq in 8.0 ?

[Gregor Maier]

On 30-Jul-2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon 30 Jul at 01:47:30 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
>> 
>> IPtables, as I mentioned in the other group...
> 
> That reminds me, I've been meaning to mention how big of a pain in the
> ass it is (well, not really, but I just think it could have been done
> better) that iptables is built in to the RPM-ised kernel by default which
> eliminates having ipchains built as a loadable kernel module.  IMHO,
> it'd be much more simple to build them both in as modules and just have
> the user do an insmod on whichever they plan on using if and when they need
> them.  Just my $0.02...

AFAIK The iptables is ALWAYS used in 2.4.x kernels (either as modules or
compiles into the kernel). The ipchains module is (as is the ipfwadm module)
is just for compatibility it "translates" calls to ipchains to the matching
iptables rules. This means you will always need iptables (even if you use
ipchains). And ipchains is just needed if you want to use the "old" ipchains
command.

Gregor 

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Re: [expert] ip_masq in 8.0 ?

[cb]

On Mon 30 Jul at 01:47:30 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
> 
> IPtables, as I mentioned in the other group...

That reminds me, I've been meaning to mention how big of a pain in the
ass it is (well, not really, but I just think it could have been done
better) that iptables is built in to the RPM-ised kernel by default which
eliminates having ipchains built as a loadable kernel module.  IMHO,
it'd be much more simple to build them both in as modules and just have
the user do an insmod on whichever they plan on using if and when they need
them.  Just my $0.02...

Cheers,

-Charlie
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Re: [expert] Samba Source / Binary RPMS for 7.2

[J. C. Woods]

Michael,

Sounds like a good plan, and, because disk space is such a premium,
maybe we could get a little assistance from the good folks at Mandrake
in regards to this issue. I have looked at your pdf file, and you have
worked your butt off, man. We must find a way to get these rpms on an
ftp site, and test the hell out of them. I, for one, would surely help
out in this endeavor. Good work, and many thanks!

drjung


"Michael D. Viron" wrote:
> 
> J. C. Woods,
> 
> I would have to say that the people working on this are serious about
> building srpms / rpms that are up-to-date, and will work on Mdk 7.2...  I
> don't know if
> we will end up providing rpms for everything (since some srpms rebuild with
> no problems), but we will try to provide srpms / rpms at least for those
> that don't build properly.  If we do want to provide 7.2 rpms for all
> cooker srpms (and our modified ones), then we should see if Mandrake will
> provide us with some disk space on their ftp servers (or others), since I
> personally don't have the disk space for it.
> 
> I've tested 132 RPMs so far, which is nowhere near completed (results are
> attached).  I just did a du, and there is another 1.5 GB worth of srpms.
> 
> Michael
> At 05:40 PM 07/29/2001 -0500, J. C. Woods wrote:
> >Michael,
> >
> >Unfortunately, my test box is in use for LMDK8.0. My LMDK7.2 is actually
> >my production server. But if those concerned are serious about building
> >some new type LMDK8.0 src and binary rpms for the LMDK7.2_glibc-2.1
> >system, I would happily install LMDK7.2 on my test box, and do any
> >testing that might help us
> >
> >Keep me posted...
> >
> >drjung
> >
> >"Michael D. Viron" wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the warning...I don't have a test box where I can actually test
> >> most of the rpms that we are buildingif someone does, then they could
> >> help out tremendously by testing the rebuilt srpms (and / or by rebuilding
> >> and testing).
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> --
> >> Michael Viron
> >> Registered Linux User #81978
> >> Senior Systems & Administration Consultant
> >> Web Spinners, University of West Florida
> >>
> >> At 04:53 PM 07/29/2001 -0500, J. C. Woods wrote:
> >> >Gentlemen,
> >> >
> >> >One note of caution, I rebuilt, from the src rpm, bind-9.1.1-1mdk for my
> >> >LMDK7.2 - glibc-2.1 system, and the rebuild went fine. I had my three
> >> >needed binary rpms for bind-9.1.1-1mdk (devel & utils included) all
> >> >neatly copied to "/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686", as they should be after the
> >> >"rpm --rebuild" command is ran. They compiled without errors. HOWEVER,
> >> >upon doing a test install, they would not install correctly. They had
> >> >some "no job control" errors. Needless to say, I did not want to use
> >> >them.
> >> >
> >> >Maybe somewhere in the source code is "REQUIRES_GLIBC_2.2". I am not
> >> >sure about that but they would not work on my glibc-2.1 platform, even
> >> >after compiling the src rpm for my system
> >> >
> >> >Just some shared thoughts amongst friends
> >> >
> >> >drjung
> >
> >--
> >
> >Art is the illusion of spontaneity...
> >
> 
>   
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>  Encoding: base64

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