RE: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7

[Jose M. Sanchez]

I went to 2.4.8-12mdk last night on a ReiserFS machine without any
problems. (I did reserve a ext2 /boot partition originally though...)

-JMS
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|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Hensley
|Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:51 AM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7
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|
|On Wed, 2001-09-05 at 15:01, Scott Thurmond wrote:
|> I used the software manager to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.7.
|> 
|> I noticed the new files in my /boot directory, except the 
|> initrd-2.4.7*img file.
|> 
|> Do I have to change the links to point to the new kernel or 
|should the 
|> software installer have done that for me?
|
|I did the same thing, and noticed that the links weren't 
|updated.  I don't think that has anything to do with the 
|software manager, but who knows.  All I know is that when I 
|updated with these RPMs, my system would not boot (see the 
|archives with my posts in the last week or so). This is 
|because I'm using Reiserfs, and the RPMs really screwed 
|something up.  I think they messed with one of the boot 
|scripts, because going back to the original Mandrake 8.0 2.4.3 
|RPMs did not fix the problem.  Unfortunately I haven't gotten 
|very far on this list with figuring out what it broke and how 
|to fix it.  Through a very painful process I ended up getting 
|back on my feet by compiling 2.4.9 from source.  I'm never 
|going to use RPMs to update the kernel again.
|
|I probably could have avoided some of the pain by following 
|the instructions and not using MandrakeUpdate, but who knows.
|
|Dan
|
|
|
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RE: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7

[Jose M. Sanchez]

Eh, AFAIK not so.

The software manager will download the upgraded RPM if used correctly.

I had no trouble going to 2.4.8-12mdk via the installer. It "lilo'd" my
system properly as well and picked up the PBM and other libraries needed
for recompilation, since I requested that the headers and sources be
installed too.


-JMS
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|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Harold Hartley
|Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:21 AM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7
|
|
|do not use the software manager to install it.
|you need to install it manually...
|instructions are on mandrake or pclinuxonline.com somewhere..
|
|Harold
|
|On Wednesday 05 September 2001 05:01 pm, you wrote:
|> I used the software manager to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.7.
|>
|> I noticed the new files in my /boot directory, except the 
|> initrd-2.4.7*img file.
|>
|> Do I have to change the links to point to the new kernel or 
|should the 
|> software installer have done that for me?
|>
|> -Scott
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Re: [expert] First Code Red(Win) and Now Telnet Worm X.c (BSD) OT FYI

[Ron Johnson]

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On Thursday 06 September 2001 10:28 pm, Sergio Korlowsky wrote:
> After all the noise about Code Red, here comes a new one, this time
> aimed at BSD (Only?)
> I thought you guys (and Gals) might like to be informed!
>
> =
> Telnet Worm X.c
> ---
> http://www.nipc.gov/warnings/assessments/2001/01-019.htm

Little activity has been seen on this worm because most *nix
sysadmins/geeks are smart enough *NOT* to open a cleartext 
protocol out to the internet.  "Here, sniff the line.  See my 
password!!!"  SSH (port 22) should be used instead.

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Re: [expert] SNF and wget

[Laurent CREPET]

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 10:08:12PM +0200, Jan Dittberner wrote:
> 
> There are two ways to solve your Problem
> 
> 1. (unsafe) open all ports above 1024 so that an connection on any
>unprivileged port may be opened
> 
> 2. (safe) force wget to use non-passive ftp by setting
>   passive_ftp = off
>in /etc/wgetrc or your $HOME/.wgetrc

It should be 'passive_ftp = on', since default is off, and I was using
the default value...

[lct@tealc lct]$ grep passive_ftp /etc/wgetrc 
#passive_ftp = off

Thanks a lot for your help, it works... and I keep the maximum
security not opening ports on the firewall...

> 
> Solution 2 will not work with other browsers Mozille/Netscape i.e.
> 

I got no problem with konqueror to connect to the same ftp sites.

> 
> Jan
> 

Laurent.
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Re: [expert] dumping two file system on the same media

[Ron Johnson]

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On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:33 am, Oren Gozlan wrote:
> Hi,
> i want to dump to scsi tape...
> but i need to dump two file system.. (/home , /work)
> is it possible ? if i'll do the dump for both of them in the same
> script - let say :
>
> #!bin/bash
> dump ... /home
> dump ... /work

Note that Linus *strongly* discourages using dump under 2.4.*
kernels.  I wish I had the link.  Somewhere at lwn.net...

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Re: [expert] Supermount & 2.4.8-18mdk

[s]

On Thursday 06 September 2001 08:01 pm,  Bill Thompson wrote:
> Supermount and this kernel works fine with my cdrom drive, zip drive
> and floppy disk drive. Actually, my CD drive is a dvdrom drive. How
> do I set up fstab to detect both a dvd or cdrom?
>
> Bill

You don't need to do anything to fstab to use it as a dvd.  All you do need 
to make a link to point to it.  ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd
(and maybe chmod a+rwx /dev/dvd)   Assuming your cdrom is hdc.
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[expert] VPN between 2 offices with LM Firewalls

[Darcy Brodie, CJL]

I have been approached by my office to set up a remote link between
our main office and a new remote office, that will allow the remote
office to access the primary server in the main office (it contains all
of our customer database, inventory, etc).  Here is the catch.  The main
server is running SCO Unix, and it controls all functions relating to
the operation of the accounting software, including printing, invoicing,
etc.

At the new location, I will be again setting up a Linux firewall (it
may be LM7.2 or 8.0, not sure yet), with 2 workstations.  The one that
must be able to connect to the main server will also be running Linux.
Both the locations will be on cable connections, with static IP's.
The firewall at the main office is currently LM7.2 with IPCHAINS, but if
need be, I can change that.

Question:
Going through the VPN, can I make a continous connection as long
as the workstation is running, and allow it to send information to the
Unix Server, as well as receive print information to a local printer
connected to the remote linux workstation (they need to be able to print
invoices, etc from the remote location)
I can already establish a SSH connection to the main server, but I
am unsure if it will allow printing functions to be processed at the
remote end.
Any suggestions on possible methods of achieving this?

Thanks

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[expert] X terminal problems

[Jaime Herazo B .]

Hi. I'm trying to set up an old PC as an X terminal to another.  I installed the bare 
minimun in the client, reconfigured gpm and started it, and then ran in the client "X 
-query 192.168.0.1" to make it connect to the server. It just sits there in the mere 
start of X (the "x" mouse cursor in the center and the black-and-white line 
background) waiting for eternity to run out. 

Somebody said that it may be that the client can't get the response from the server 
due to being losed by tcp_wrappers, so i edited /etc/hosts.allow to add after the 
ALL:LOCAL line that i put there someday before (ALL:ALL in /etc/hosts.deny), the line 
"ALL : 192.168.0." to say that the local network gets to use anything from it. But the 
results were the same.

Once it worked, the client showed the chooser from gdm and worked fine, allowing me to 
run big programs on that PC (that's pretty cool, you know? :) ), but i turned it off 
and the next day (today) it went back to the same state, i don't really know what i 
did.

So, ideas on how to trace the problem and kill it? gotchas you've found on a similar 
setup you've tried or something? some obvious thing making faces in front of my nose 
and being ignored anyway? :)

The "server" has 7.2 and the "client" has debian (it was suggested in almost all the 
faqs and i don't think mandrake runs on that machine (12 Mb RAM, for example) ).

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Re: [expert] SNF and wget

[Jaime Herazo B .]

You may try manually defining the proxy. That's controlled by
2 environment variables, i think they were http_proxy and 
ftp_proxy, but check the wget manpage.

And then try again, and if necessary tell wget to turn on
the proxies, i think it was -Y on


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Re: [expert] Supermount & 2.4.8-18mdk

[lhon]

Dear Bill,
Thank you very much!
I will install because I found some problems in the system after some
packages upgrade.
May be relate to kernel problems.
Best Regards,
Leo Hon
 
Bill Thompson wrote:
Ibon,
At any Cooker site. A quick check shows it's been replaced by:
  kernel-2.4.8-20mdk.i586.rpm
I don't know if this one is supermount-aware. Also, check:
 
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/article.php?sid=434&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
for more information.
Bill
 
 
 
lhon wrote:
>
> Hello Bill,
>
> Where are find 2.4.8-18mdk ?
>
> Regards,
> Leo Hon
>
> Bill Thompson wrote:
>
> > Supermount and this kernel works fine with my cdrom drive, zip
drive
> > and floppy disk drive. Actually, my CD drive is a dvdrom drive.
How
> > do I set up fstab to detect both a dvd or cdrom?
> >
> > Bill
> > --
> > "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
> > (When all else fails, play dead!)
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[expert] First Code Red(Win) and Now Telnet Worm X.c (BSD) OT FYI

[Sergio Korlowsky]

After all the noise about Code Red, here comes a new one, this time aimed at 
BSD (Only?)
I thought you guys (and Gals) might like to be informed!

=
Telnet Worm X.c
---
http://www.nipc.gov/warnings/assessments/2001/01-019.htm

NIPC has released an advisory concerning a worm that propagates via 
a buffer overflow vulnerability in BSD-derived telnet daemons. This 
vulnerability was discovered by TESO security and is described in a July 24 
CERT advisory: http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-21.html

Handler's Diary coverage of the vulnerability is here:
http://www.incidents.org/diary/july2001.php#241

The worm code was recovered a couple of weeks ago. However DShield 
has not recorded any significant levels of telnet activity suggesting 
that the worm is actively propagating in the wild. The table below
shows statistics for the telnet port recorded over the past month by 
DShield. The last column gives the number of unique sources reported 
as sending at least one telnet probe on the date indicated.

Date#Probes  #Sources
--  --  --   
2001-07-30   209 39
2001-07-31   547 40
2001-08-01   559 33
2001-08-02   649 43
2001-08-03   783 45
2001-08-04   472 44
2001-08-05   100539
2001-08-06   979 42
2001-08-07   227 27
2001-08-08   172554
2001-08-09   281 28
2001-08-10   231264
2001-08-11   517 35
2001-08-12   103 37
2001-08-13   660 44
2001-08-14   343636
2001-08-15   156 30
2001-08-16   220846
2001-08-17   490 48
2001-08-18   371 45
2001-08-19   208145
2001-08-20   675 46
2001-08-21   860 33
2001-08-22   104915
2001-08-23   540 26
2001-08-24   364 31
2001-08-25   130432
2001-08-26   459 42
2001-08-27   117131
2001-08-28   381 42
2001-08-29   114747
2001-08-30   137 28
2001-08-31   349623

The telnet worm configures compromised hosts to serve a root shell 
from port 145/tcp, and scans random IP addresses on the telnet port 
in order to find new victims.

William Stearns has created a tool which will detect the x.c worm and 
remove it from infected systems. The tool may be found here:
http://www.ists.dartmouth.edu/IRIA/knowledge_base/tools/xcfind.htm

Dartmouth's main page, which offers additional worm detection and removal 
tools, is here:
http://www.ists.dartmouth.edu/IRIA/knowledge_base/index.htm

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Re: [expert] Supermount & 2.4.8-18mdk

[Bill Thompson]

Ibon,

At any Cooker site. A quick check shows it's been replaced by:

  kernel-2.4.8-20mdk.i586.rpm 

I don't know if this one is supermount-aware. Also, check:

 
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/article.php?sid=434&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

for more information.

Bill

   
  

lhon wrote:
> 
> Hello Bill,
> 
> Where are find 2.4.8-18mdk ?
> 
> Regards,
> Leo Hon
> 
> Bill Thompson wrote:
> 
> > Supermount and this kernel works fine with my cdrom drive, zip drive
> > and floppy disk drive. Actually, my CD drive is a dvdrom drive. How
> > do I set up fstab to detect both a dvd or cdrom?
> >
> > Bill
> > --
> > "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
> > (When all else fails, play dead!)
 
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Re: [expert] Supermount & 2.4.8-18mdk

[lhon]

Hello Bill,

Where are find 2.4.8-18mdk ?

Regards,
Leo Hon

Bill Thompson wrote:

> Supermount and this kernel works fine with my cdrom drive, zip drive
> and floppy disk drive. Actually, my CD drive is a dvdrom drive. How
> do I set up fstab to detect both a dvd or cdrom?
>
> Bill
> --
> "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
> (When all else fails, play dead!)
>
>   
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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7

[lhon]

Hi Scott,

Many distribution are very confuse (foolish), most distribution need this kind
of
file to load something in RAM first to function , e.g. some type of  file
systems, but the kernel
of  2.4.7 seems not need to load some modules first and already bundled in,
e.g.
reiserfs file system, you should check.

I tried many (over 10) famous distributions of Linux, nearly no one help to
create
this file, a command mk_initrd or mkinitrd should do so, but need manualy to
do.
Wonder, these distribution are all contain document in their web site teach
people
about early modules loading process and to use these 2 commands.
Except specially build the post-install steps, rpm natively not create this
file, it is
realy surprise me before.

Don't think you can create back initrd.img file after reboot if not previous
create.

Nowaday, harddisk is much cheaper , just install new kernel and update
lilo/grub and
make initrd.img,  don't upgrade/replace the working kernel.

Even just update/upgrade some simple packages will cause the system problems.

Regards,
Leo Hon

Scott Thurmond wrote:

> I used the software manager to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.7.
>
> I noticed the new files in my /boot directory, except the initrd-2.4.7*img
> file.
>
> Do I have to change the links to point to the new kernel or should the
> software installer have done that for me?
>
> -Scott
>
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[expert] Supermount & 2.4.8-18mdk

[Bill Thompson]

Supermount and this kernel works fine with my cdrom drive, zip drive
and floppy disk drive. Actually, my CD drive is a dvdrom drive. How
do I set up fstab to detect both a dvd or cdrom?

Bill
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Re[2]: [expert] litle rpm trick

[Galileo]

Clovis> i could use wget to take it all, but only need tha packages i have
Clovis> installed.  any other ideas?

use drakupdaterobot already does everything you need and more.




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Re: [expert] Netscape & wish using up memory

[Wolfgang Bornath]

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 14:04 -0400, Laurent Duperval wrote:
> On  6 Sep, To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > As promised, here is Jeff Hobbs' answer, which you can find on
> > comp.lang.tcl (and I think any subsequent discussions on the memory
> > allocation aspect of Tcl should be taken there):
> > 
> 
> I got another reply from Jeff:
> 
> If they are using 8.3.2 (then they should upgrade), just grep for
> open or exec.  If it's there, they have a leak.  That simple.  :(
> IIRC, it's 19 bytes leaked per call.  Not much, but it adds up.

OK, d'led tk-8.3.3-5mdk from Cooker and upgraded.

# rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/wish
tk-8.3.3-5mdk

Startet tkpppoe and startet top (sorted on memory useage). wish startet
out at 2200.

Now, after 5:30 hours it shows like this (I did not connect to the
internet during that time, so tkpppoe was just startet but did not do
anything!):

 12:20am  up  5:35,  3 users,  load average: 0,03, 0,06, 0,02
78 processes: 74 sleeping, 4 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  6,1% user, 11,7% system,  0,0% nice, 82,0% idle
Mem:   247696K av,  197080K used,   50616K free,  0K shrd, 12108K buff
Swap:  401584K av,   0K used,  401584K free 107636K cached
 
  PID USER PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
 2149 wobo   9   0 27844  27M  1940 S 1,1 11,2   3:07 wish
 1959 root  10   0 13828  13M  1824 S 3,9  5,5   1:32 X
[]

The update of tk from 8.3.2 to 8.3.3 hasn't changed anything.

But anyway, thanks for trying.

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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7

[J. C. Woods]

Dan Hensley wrote:

>>  I wasn't able to use the 8.0 release for a fresh install since it had problems 
>that >>  the beta didn't (I have an nVidia video card).  I don't recall all the 
>problems I>>  ran into. 

> > You probly didn't have a ram disk for the 2.4.7 kernel.

> > --
> > Tom Brinkman   Galveston Bay

Vincent, I could not help but notice, by your postings, that you are
staying with the 2.4.7-12.3mdk kernel version. Do you know something we
do not, and would you like to share your thinking on this matter. With
all the later kernel versions out there, I am just wondering if this
kernel, 2.4.7-12.3mdk, is a bit more stable. I have installed the 8.1
beta2 version, and upgraded to the 2.4.8-18mdk kernel version. I am
getting some unexplained X server crashes, and I am not sure why. I also
have the NVIDIA chip on my graphics card, and these crashes may be
related to this situation, and not the kernel at all.

Dan, on a related issue, would you tell me which driver you went with
for your NVIDIA Video Card? Are you using Mandrake's "nv" driver or did
you use the NVIDIA driver? Are you still having any trouble with your X
Server and or display while using the Mandrake beta2?

Thanks to all,
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[expert] Fwd: [Cooker] 8.1Beta2 LessTif - ldd unable to find libXm- orig ended up in spain?????

[stephen]

i'm forwarding this to expert as well 
for some reason, my 8.0 kmail sent it to spain

maybe someone has an explanation for both problems !

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Subject: [Cooker] 8.1Beta2 LessTif - ldd unable to find libXm
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 21:55:34 +0100
From: stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


installed 8.1Beta2, had a 'don't know how to handle error' message about
/mnt/dev/mouse does not exist istr. apart from that relatively all OK

copied my compiling set of files under 7.1...8.0 for a LessTif reqd program,
loads of missing includes, Xm related, also had the ldd unable to locate
 libXm

looked for and did not find the lesstif-devel rpm

went off to hungary.com  and pulled the src rpm

rebuilt, and installed

header probs disappeared, ldd remains

looked at /etc/ld.so.conf, ldconfig'd etc
ld config gave /usr/lib listed twice message, when i added /usr/local/lib
looked at /etc/ld.so.preload, listed libsafe, thought about deleting line,
 but didn't
.
rebooted to 8.0 & confirmed again that it built correctly


any ideas would be much appreaciated

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[expert] Redirect to internal network

[Joe Aldeguer]

Hello all,

Has anyone been able to succesfully make the (redirect to internal servers
from public networks) work
on the Linux Mandrake Firewall?

I'm asking because I have set it up through the web admin tool but it fails
to perform the task.  Could I do
this using vi instead and which config file?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [expert] SNF and wget

[Jan Dittberner]

Laurent CREPET schrieb:

> Since I installed a real firewall on an old P166, I can
> send e-mails, browse the web, but I can't use wget from
> my other systems (the one who is connected to the internet
> through the firewall).
> 
> wget takes some times to connect to ftp.kernel.org, and
> then I got this error:
> 
> --20:39:21--  ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/*.bz2
>   (try: 2) => `ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/.listing'
> Connecting to ftp.kernel.org:21... connected!
> Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
> ==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD pub/linux/kernel/testing ... done.
> ==> PORT ... done.==> LIST ...
> Error in server response, closing control connection.
> Retrying.
> 
> For ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandrake-linux.com/Mandrake/updates/8.0/,
> it takes too much time before getting anything... Using ncftp go faster and
> I successfully download a file from this URLS...
> 
> Do I need to open some ports ? to enable something (squid is
> enable in transparent mode) ?

The reason for this behaviour is that wget, as well as other Webbrowsers
uses passive ftp mode. Control connections are working fine, but data
connections will fail because they are normally established on a pseudo 
random port (both client and server port) when using passive ftp.

There are two ways to solve your Problem

1. (unsafe) open all ports above 1024 so that an connection on any
   unprivileged port may be opened

2. (safe) force wget to use non-passive ftp by setting
passive_ftp = off
   in /etc/wgetrc or your $HOME/.wgetrc

Solution 2 will not work with other browsers Mozille/Netscape i.e.


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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7

[Dan Hensley]

Thanks a bunch for this tip.  That indeed was the problem.  I did have a ram
disk in /boot that was symlinked properly, but it was for the 2.4.2 kernel, so
that caused problems.  When I created one specifically for the 2.4.3-20mdk
kernel, that one was able to boot up fine.  For some reason though, both the
2.4.3 and 2.4.7 kernel RPMs didn't provide a ramdisk?  Why is that?

I still don't know why the RPMs didn't finish their job with updating
symlinks.  Maybe my system has other problems.  It's an 8.0beta system
(probably the last beta) that I upgraded to 8.0 release.  I wasn't able to use
the 8.0 release for a fresh install since it had problems that the beta didn't
(I have an nVidia video card).  I don't recall all the problems I ran into,
other than the video problem and the fact that the installer insisted on me
using lilo even though I specifically requested grub, and actually was using
grub during the beta process.

On a related note, why does Mandrake use symlinks in /boot in the first
place?  It seems much more logical to point lilo (or grub) to the specific ram
disk, vmlinuz, etc.  Doing symlinks just seems like the perfect way to get
yourself into lots of trouble with version mismatches, especially when you
have multiple kernels installed.

Dan


Tom Brinkman wrote:

> On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:51 am, Dan Hensley escribió:
>  All I know is that when I updated with these RPMs, my
> > system would not boot (see the archives with my posts in the last
> > week or so). This is because I'm using Reiserfs, and the RPMs really
> > screwed something up.
>
> You probly didn't have a ram disk for the 2.4.7 kernel.
>
>   mkinitrd /boot/[initrd image] [new kernelversion]
>
> see   http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/kupgrade3.html
>
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[expert] SNF and wget

[Laurent CREPET]

Since I installed a real firewall on an old P166, I can
send e-mails, browse the web, but I can't use wget from
my other systems (the one who is connected to the internet
through the firewall).

wget takes some times to connect to ftp.kernel.org, and
then I got this error:

--20:39:21--  ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/*.bz2
  (try: 2) => `ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/.listing'
Connecting to ftp.kernel.org:21... connected!
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD pub/linux/kernel/testing ... done.
==> PORT ... done.==> LIST ... 
Error in server response, closing control connection.
Retrying.

For ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandrake-linux.com/Mandrake/updates/8.0/,
it takes too much time before getting anything... Using ncftp go faster and
I successfully download a file from this URLS...

Do I need to open some ports ? to enable something (squid is
enable in transparent mode) ?

Laurent.
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Re: [expert] Find Command

[Joe Smith]

Pierre Fortin wrote:
...
> Yet:
> 
> $ find .test -iname test\* -iname .test\*
> $ find .test -iname test\* -or -iname .test\* -or -print
> 
> give no output!  Implies that '-print', while "True", impacts the results of the
> tests by causing alteration of the remaining parm relationships...  I think this
> is more than arcane, it's plain buggy, IMHO...
>  
>
> Interesting, no...?  :^)

Well, _no_, actually ;-)

The first never prints anything since the -iname terms are never both true.

The second (ISTM) goes like this:

a or b or -print  ->  (a or b) or -print   ->  TRUE or -print

then the '-print' is ignored (!!) because the first term is TRUE.

You have to check the info docs for the GNU utilities; the man pages are 
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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7

[Vincent Danen]

On Thu Sep 06, 2001 at 08:51:03AM -0600, Dan Hensley wrote:

> > I used the software manager to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.7.
> > 
> > I noticed the new files in my /boot directory, except the initrd-2.4.7*img
> > file.
> > 
> > Do I have to change the links to point to the new kernel or should the
> > software installer have done that for me?
> 
> I did the same thing, and noticed that the links weren't updated.  I
> don't think that has anything to do with the software manager, but who
> knows.  All I know is that when I updated with these RPMs, my system
> would not boot (see the archives with my posts in the last week or so).
> This is because I'm using Reiserfs, and the RPMs really screwed
> something up.  I think they messed with one of the boot scripts, because
> going back to the original Mandrake 8.0 2.4.3 RPMs did not fix the
> problem.  Unfortunately I haven't gotten very far on this list with
> figuring out what it broke and how to fix it.  Through a very painful
> process I ended up getting back on my feet by compiling 2.4.9 from
> source.  I'm never going to use RPMs to update the kernel again.

I sincerely doubt it had anything to do with reiserfs.  The machines
that I updated the kernel on (using commandline rpm with -ivh) all
have reiserfs partitions and none of them exhibited the same behaviour
you previously described.  Links in /boot were created properly and
/etc/lilo.conf was updated properly.  In fact, all it took was running
"/sbin/lilo -v" after the fact and I rebooted without issue and have
been using it since... this is on my workstation, a production
webserver, and a laptop.  I honestly have no clue as to why you've had
such difficulties with your upgrade.

> I probably could have avoided some of the pain by following the
> instructions and not using MandrakeUpdate, but who knows.

Probably.  =)

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Re: [expert] Netscape & wish using up memory

[Laurent Duperval]

On  6 Sep, To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On  5 Sep, FLYNN, Steve wrote:
>> Exactly what is the point in that? I've never done any Tcl programming
>> (yet) but I can't see the reasoning behind this.
>> 
> 
> I don't remember what the exact design decision was. It may have been
> somnething to do with performance. I'll ask and give you the answer later.
> 
>> It's a multi-tasking OS - everything should be handed back in a friendly
>> manner. It sounds like a deliberate design ploy on the Tcl interpreter
>> authors, presumably for performance increases, but it appears to fail as
>> it causes swapping itself!
>> 
>> Have I got the wrong end of the stick?
>> 
> 
> In this case, probably. I suspect the the tkppoe script keeps large
> amounts of data in memory and never releases it. For example, maybe it
> sets an array aor a list and constantly adds data to it. In that case, no
> matter what Tcl does with memory, it will just keep on growing and
> growing.
> 
> On the other hand, if the script allocates large amounts of data to do
> temporary datamanipulation, then releases the handle to that data, the
> memory growth will be a result of the way Tcl manages memory. Until I see
> the script, I can't say for sure which of these situations is at work.
> 
> L
> 

As promised, here is Jeff Hobbs' answer, which you can find on comp.lang.tcl
(and I think any subsequent discussions on the memory allocation aspect of
Tcl should be taken there):

Yes, it is in large part for performance.  Yes, it still makes a
noticable difference in that latest machines, and likely always will
since the concept is fairly basic.  This is exactly what Tcl does:

It allocates Tcl_Obj's in blocks of 100.  Ask for the first one, you
get 100 and it pops one off to you.  The next 99 are already allocated
and just popped off to you.

When you "free" a Tcl_Obj, it goes back on to a stack of free objects
which can be reused.  Any memory associated with the Tcl_Obj (string,
list rep, other object data) is all freed, it is just the Tcl_Obj
shell that is kept on the stack for reuse.

This means if you have 1001 objects in use at once, you will have
allocated at least 1100 Tcl_Obj's.  However, if you used 1001 objects,
but never more than 50 at a time, you only ever allocated 100 Tcl_Obj
(others were reused).  This goes on for the lifetime of the process.
Thus, the objects used high-water mark is maintained - with the
philosophy that if you used it before, you may need it again.

The way in which they are maintained on the stack is done in a very
efficient manner (linking to each other), which unfortunately makes
it impossible to deallocate.  To free, you would have to have the
entire block of 100 Tcl_Obj's ready to free and remember which one
was the first.

What the person may have been seeing is some mem leak in Tcl.  There
were (*were*) a few that we hard to exercise, but 8.3.2 had a fairly
easy to hit one in channels (unfortunately) that was fixed in 8.3.3.

So, while it is true that certain parts of Tcl don't free mem back,
it is just the Tcl_Obj shell allocator, everything else gets freed
(structures, dstrings, strings, ...).

---

Since tkpppoe most likely uses channels, it may be exercising the bug that
Jeff mentions. You could try 8.3.3 to see if your script still ill-behaves.

L

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Re: [expert] Find Command

[Pierre Fortin]

Joe Smith wrote:
> 
> Pierre Fortin wrote:
> ...
> > I would think this indicates that "find" is buggy since the "-o|-or|," does not
> > seem to work as documented...  comments...?
> ...
> 
> find(1) is a first-class bitch of a program.  It consistently trips me
> up with it's arcane syntax and unexpected behavior.

AMEN! on the trip-ups; but I still think find is buggy...  more below...

> In this case, you are being bitten by the fact that find follows the
> file globbing behavior of the shell (from 'info find'):
>   In the `find' tests that do shell pattern matching (`-name',
>`-path', etc.), wildcards in the pattern do not match a `.' at the
>beginning of a file name.

IOW, "find ." sees *all* the files, then the matching part sucks.

> Your problem with '-or' is that there is an implied '-and' before
> '-print', so that you are really doing 'a or b and c', which is
> different than 'b or a and c' because 'and' has higher precedence.  If
> you use parens (or drop the '-print'), it works as you expect:

>From man:
 -print True; print the full file name on the standard output, followed by a
newline.

so:  'a or b and 1' is the same as 'a or b' since the result of 'b and 1' will
always be 'b'
Ditto for 'b or a and 1'
Hence, '-print' should not be a factor in the output; yet *each* of the
following commands:

$ find .test -print -iname test\* -iname .test\*  # (implied -and)
 ^^
$ find .test -iname test\* -or -iname .test\*
   ^^^
give: 

.test
.test/test1
.test/test1/test2
.test/test1/test2/TEST2
.test/test1/TEST1
.test/.test1
.test/.test1/.test2
.test/.test1/.test2/.TEST2
.test/.test1/.TEST1

Where's the logic in that..?  :^)

Yet:

$ find .test -iname test\* -iname .test\*
$ find .test -iname test\* -or -iname .test\* -or -print

give no output!  Implies that '-print', while "True", impacts the results of the
tests by causing alteration of the remaining parm relationships...  I think this
is more than arcane, it's plain buggy, IMHO...
   
  
Interesting, no...?  :^)

Pierre

> $ find . \( -iname '.test*' -o -iname 'test*' \) -print
> ./.test
> ./.test/test1
> ./.test/test1/test2
> ./.test/test1/test2/TEST2
> ./.test/test1/TEST1
> ./.test/.test1
> ./.test/.test1/.test2
> ./.test/.test1/.test2/.TEST2
> ./.test/.test1/.TEST1
> 
> As far as the original problem, I would suggest keeping the find part as
> simple as possible and use grep to do the matching:
> 
> $ find . -type f | grep test
> 
> Or, more precisely:
> 
> $ find . -type f | grep 'read[^/]*$'
> 
> to limit the match to the filename component.
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Netscape & wish using up memory

[Wolfgang Bornath]

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 11:51 -0400, Laurent Duperval wrote:
> On  6 Sep, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> > Want me to send it to you as .bz2 (24kb)?
> > 
> > wobo
> 
> Sure but no promises until next week.

Great. I'll send it direct to you. Take your time, I want to use that
proggie for a long time and for now I can live with shutting it off and
on again. Pity is, I have to cut the connection each time.
 
> If nothing ever sticks to TEFLON, how do they make TEFLON stick to the
> pan?

B/c the pan sticks to TEFLON. ;-)

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Re: [expert] Linux mandrake security firewall

[William R. Nash]

Okay,

   I have the client on my side and my work has the server.  How can i add
another rule with snf from mandrake to allow citrix.  thanks Bill Nash

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: [expert] Linux mandrake security firewall


>
> On 06-Sep-2001 William R. Nash wrote:
> > Hello i need some help with Linux mandrake security firewall.  I'm
trying to
> > set up this firewall at home.  I need to open ports tcp 1494 and udp
1604 so
> > i can use citrix from home.  i added the ports and when i use nmap it
states
> > that the ports are closed.  i need to have this ports open so i can
work.
> > thanks Bill Nash.
> >
> > P.S. all the other ports i have open states they are open.  Not sure why
i
> > can't get citrix to work with this firewall.
> >  the program work great before the firewall.
>
> If you just open the ports in the firewall you won't see anything with
nmap.
> First you need a programm that listens on these ports. I.e. you must start
the
> server first, then you can use nmap to check if the ports are open.
>
> If you've already done this make sure which side tries to establish the
> connection maybe you need to add another rule to the firewall.
>
> Gregor
>
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Re: [expert] Netscape & wish using up memory

[Laurent Duperval]

On  6 Sep, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 09:59 -0400, Laurent Duperval wrote:
>> 
>> On the other hand, if the script allocates large amounts of data to do
>> temporary datamanipulation, then releases the handle to that data, the
>> memory growth will be a result of the way Tcl manages memory. Until I see
>> the script, I can't say for sure which of these situations is at work.
> 
> Want me to send it to you as .bz2 (24kb)?
> 
> wobo

Sure but no promises until next week.

L

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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:51 am, Dan Hensley escribió:
 All I know is that when I updated with these RPMs, my
> system would not boot (see the archives with my posts in the last
> week or so). This is because I'm using Reiserfs, and the RPMs really
> screwed something up. 

You probly didn't have a ram disk for the 2.4.7 kernel.

  mkinitrd /boot/[initrd image] [new kernelversion]

see   http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/kupgrade3.html

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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7

[Dan Hensley]

On Wed, 2001-09-05 at 15:01, Scott Thurmond wrote:
> I used the software manager to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.7.
> 
> I noticed the new files in my /boot directory, except the initrd-2.4.7*img
> file.
> 
> Do I have to change the links to point to the new kernel or should the
> software installer have done that for me?

I did the same thing, and noticed that the links weren't updated.  I
don't think that has anything to do with the software manager, but who
knows.  All I know is that when I updated with these RPMs, my system
would not boot (see the archives with my posts in the last week or so).
This is because I'm using Reiserfs, and the RPMs really screwed
something up.  I think they messed with one of the boot scripts, because
going back to the original Mandrake 8.0 2.4.3 RPMs did not fix the
problem.  Unfortunately I haven't gotten very far on this list with
figuring out what it broke and how to fix it.  Through a very painful
process I ended up getting back on my feet by compiling 2.4.9 from
source.  I'm never going to use RPMs to update the kernel again.

I probably could have avoided some of the pain by following the
instructions and not using MandrakeUpdate, but who knows.

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RE: [expert] Linux mandrake security firewall

[Gregor Maier]

On 06-Sep-2001 William R. Nash wrote:
> Hello i need some help with Linux mandrake security firewall.  I'm trying to
> set up this firewall at home.  I need to open ports tcp 1494 and udp 1604 so
> i can use citrix from home.  i added the ports and when i use nmap it states
> that the ports are closed.  i need to have this ports open so i can work. 
> thanks Bill Nash.
> 
> P.S. all the other ports i have open states they are open.  Not sure why i
> can't get citrix to work with this firewall.
>  the program work great before the firewall.

If you just open the ports in the firewall you won't see anything with nmap.
First you need a programm that listens on these ports. I.e. you must start the
server first, then you can use nmap to check if the ports are open. 

If you've already done this make sure which side tries to establish the
connection maybe you need to add another rule to the firewall. 

Gregor 

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[expert] Linux mandrake security firewall

[William R. Nash]

Hello i need some help with Linux mandrake security 
firewall.  I'm trying to set up this firewall at home.  I need to open 
ports tcp 1494 and udp 1604 so i can use citrix from home.  i added the 
ports and when i use nmap it states that the ports are closed.  i need to 
have this ports open so i can work.  thanks Bill Nash.
 
P.S. all the other ports i have open states they 
are open.  Not sure why i can't get citrix to work with this 
firewall.
 the program work great before the 
firewall.
 

Re: [expert] Netscape & wish using up memory

[Wolfgang Bornath]

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 09:59 -0400, Laurent Duperval wrote:
> 
> On the other hand, if the script allocates large amounts of data to do
> temporary datamanipulation, then releases the handle to that data, the
> memory growth will be a result of the way Tcl manages memory. Until I see
> the script, I can't say for sure which of these situations is at work.

Want me to send it to you as .bz2 (24kb)?

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Re: [expert] Mandrake 8.1 Beta2

[Tom Brinkman]

On Wednesday 05 September 2001 08:08 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

> I have made an install, where I formated all, beside my /home dir.
> Another option - why is the supermount not active? 

>From today's cooker newsletter:
~~
   Thanks to the great work of our kernel developer Juan Quintela,
supermount, the "magic" filesystem allowing the smoothest possible
operation with floppies and CDROM's, has been rewritten. For the moment,
only the Read-Only part is ready for production; Read-Write support will
come soon when the few remaining bugs are bazooked. This was 
particularly important, in order to bring supermount code to a 
satisfactory level of compliance with the 2.4 kernel. And since Juan, 
who's one of the core developers of the kernel, handled the task, we 
can expect supermount to be integrated into Linus' branch at a point 
(and IMHO that's a very fine contribution to the Linux kernel 
"everyone" can benefit from).
~~
  Supermount has been missing since 2.4.6 kernels. I installed kernel 
2.4.8-18mdk a few days ago, and supermount was back. By trial and error 
I found that I had to edit fstab to read only for supermounted drives.
I find it also hard-locks the system if I use Konqueror to access a 
supermounted drive, but not from console or XWC file manager.  Then it 
works fine, but just read only.

  Beta3 is expected soon, I suspect supermount will be back in for 
testing.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   Galveston Bay



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Re: [expert] Netscape & wish using up memory

[Laurent Duperval]

On  5 Sep, FLYNN, Steve wrote:
> Exactly what is the point in that? I've never done any Tcl programming
> (yet) but I can't see the reasoning behind this.
> 

I don't remember what the exact design decision was. It may have been
somnething to do with performance. I'll ask and give you the answer later.

> It's a multi-tasking OS - everything should be handed back in a friendly
> manner. It sounds like a deliberate design ploy on the Tcl interpreter
> authors, presumably for performance increases, but it appears to fail as
> it causes swapping itself!
> 
> Have I got the wrong end of the stick?
> 

In this case, probably. I suspect the the tkppoe script keeps large amounts
of data in memory and never releases it. For example, maybe it sets an array
aor a list and constantly adds data to it. In that case, no matter what Tcl
does with memory, it will just keep on growing and growing.

On the other hand, if the script allocates large amounts of data to do
temporary datamanipulation, then releases the handle to that data, the
memory growth will be a result of the way Tcl manages memory. Until I see
the script, I can't say for sure which of these situations is at work.

L

-- 
Laurent Duperval 

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to members who suggest King David was gay





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Re: [expert] litle rpm trick

[bascule]

i knew that, i was just testing, honest, i mean it's obvious, as if i would 
forget, honest guv'nor, straight up, would i lie to you? :-)

bascule


On Wednesday 05 September 2001 2:09 am, you wrote:
> SOrry, you need to update by:
>
> urpmi.update sourcename
>
> where sourcename is the name of the updates source.
>



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Re: [expert] Find Command

[Joe Smith]

Pierre Fortin wrote:
...
> I would think this indicates that "find" is buggy since the "-o|-or|," does not
> seem to work as documented...  comments...?
...

find(1) is a first-class bitch of a program.  It consistently trips me 
up with it's arcane syntax and unexpected behavior.

In this case, you are being bitten by the fact that find follows the 
file globbing behavior of the shell (from 'info find'):
  In the `find' tests that do shell pattern matching (`-name',
   `-path', etc.), wildcards in the pattern do not match a `.' at the
   beginning of a file name.

Your problem with '-or' is that there is an implied '-and' before 
'-print', so that you are really doing 'a or b and c', which is 
different than 'b or a and c' because 'and' has higher precedence.  If 
you use parens (or drop the '-print'), it works as you expect:

$ find . \( -iname '.test*' -o -iname 'test*' \) -print
./.test
./.test/test1
./.test/test1/test2
./.test/test1/test2/TEST2
./.test/test1/TEST1
./.test/.test1
./.test/.test1/.test2
./.test/.test1/.test2/.TEST2
./.test/.test1/.TEST1

As far as the original problem, I would suggest keeping the find part as 
simple as possible and use grep to do the matching:

$ find . -type f | grep test

Or, more precisely:

$ find . -type f | grep 'read[^/]*$'

to limit the match to the filename component.



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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7

[Oliver Egginger]

> > I used the software manager to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.7.
>
> I noticed the new files in my /boot directory, except the initrd-2.4.7*img
> file.
>
> Do I have to change the links to point to the new kernel or should the
> software installer have done that for me?
>
> -Scott

There should be new links for the new Kernel and a new entrie in your 
boot-konfiguration.
If not:
Create new links and update your /etc/lilo.conf;
or your grub konfiguration.

hint:
I wouldn't use the software-installer or another graphical-tool for a kernel update;
thats to instable.


regards
Oliver
 



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Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7

[Harold Hartley]

do not use the software manager to install it.
you need to install it manually...
instructions are on mandrake or pclinuxonline.com somewhere..

Harold

On Wednesday 05 September 2001 05:01 pm, you wrote:
> I used the software manager to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.7.
>
> I noticed the new files in my /boot directory, except the initrd-2.4.7*img
> file.
>
> Do I have to change the links to point to the new kernel or should the
> software installer have done that for me?
>
> -Scott


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[expert] Kernel 2.4.7

[Scott Thurmond]

I used the software manager to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.7.

I noticed the new files in my /boot directory, except the initrd-2.4.7*img
file.

Do I have to change the links to point to the new kernel or should the
software installer have done that for me?

-Scott




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Re: [expert] Inspiron 8100 with Linux-Mandrake 7.2

[civileme]

On Wednesday 05 September 2001 20:46, Jeffrey Twu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>   When I try to install Linux-Mandrake 7.2 on an Inspiron 8100
> machine, it gets to "Configuring PCMCIA cards ..." early in the install
> program and freezes.  Is there any way around this?
>
>   I can't use Linux-Mandrake 8.0 or any 2.4-based kernel because I
> have to run a restricted program (provided in binary form only) which
> freezes on all 2.4-based kernel platforms.  I'm going to try to get a
> new version of the restricted program, but if anyone happens to know how
> to point me the right direction ...
>
> -Jeff
>
> P.S.  Linux-Mandrake 8.0 runs fine on Inspiron 8100s.

Ummm

Actulally, there is a fully functional 2.2 kernel on 8.0 both for install and 
for boot and run.  The /images/alternatives directory on the install CD has 
cdrom.img-2.2.19-BADZ5 for example which is a 2.2 install, and you can during 
individual package selection choose to install kernel22-2.2.19-10mdk and 
during bootloader time add a boot for it and remove the others.

The pcmcia problem most likely refers to a non-standrad way of implementing 
pcmcia and it requires kernel recompilationto fit your machine.

Civileme



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