[expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
I'm hoping that someone can help me here I'm running Mandrake 8.0, and when I ran MandrakeUpdate this morning, I noticed that there was a new kernel upgrade from my existing 2.4.3-20mdk to 2.4.7-12.3mdk. I selected the kernel, header, source, and doc .rpm files and let it do its thing. I now have a semi-crippled system. :-/ Modules don't seem to work anymore, so it can't find things like my sound card and ethernet card. When running depmod, I get an error message saying that /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/modules.dep can't be opened for writing - which makes sense considering it isn't there anymore :-) What I want to know is WHY does it want the old directory instead of the new one? For that matter, a uname -r command returns the old version number instead of the new one. Does anyone know what I'm missing, to get this thing back on its feet again? I did fix the broken symlinks in the /boot directory (which broke after running the upgrade), except for the initrd.img link, which is still pointing to a non-existant file. I can't run a mkinitrd command, because doing so gets me a message saying that the kernel doesn't know about the loop device (presumably since I can't load any modules until depmod knows where to look). Any assistance would be *greatly* appreciated. :-) --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7
Too many messsages, so little time. So the zombie was fixed in -18?? -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of J. Craig Woods |Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 3:15 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7 | | |Jose M. Sanchez wrote: | | Still don't know what you are talking about... | | Here's a printout... | | [opjose@bluebox opjose]$ su | Password: | | [root@bluebox opjose]# uname -a | | Linux bluebox..com 2.4.8-18mdk #1 Tue Sep 4 10:08:58 EDT |2001 i686 | unknown | | [root@bluebox opjose]# ps -aux | grep Z | | USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START |TIME COMMAND | root 11944 0.0 0.1 1724 676 pts/2S02:39 0:00 grep Z | | [root@bluebox opjose]# | | -JMS | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |It amazes me but I should not be surprised: it is the nature |of a listserve, where people forget what the original msg was |about. Jose, in your original msg, the one I responded to, |your stated that you upgraded to kernel-2.4.8-12: In case you |forgot, here are your words. | |Jose M. Sanchez wrote: | | I went to 2.4.8-12mdk last night on a ReiserFS machine without any | problems. (I did reserve a ext2 /boot partition originally though...) | | -JMS | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Sanchez;Jose;M FN:Jose M Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ORG:Net Results, Inc.;Lan Support TITLE:Lan Support TEL;WORK;VOICE:301-972-8271 TEL;HOME;VOICE:301-972-8507 TEL;CELL;VOICE:301-502-0151 TEL;WORK;FAX:301-349-2201 TEL;HOME;FAX:301-349-2201 ADR;WORK:;301-972-8271;17206 Spates Hill Road;Poolesville;Maryland;20837;United States LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:301-972-8271=0D=0A17206 Spates Hill Road=0D=0APoolesville, Maryland 20837= =0D=0AUnited States ADR;HOME:;;17206 Spates Hill Road;Poolesville;Maryland;20837;United States LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:17206 Spates Hill Road=0D=0APoolesville, Maryland 20837=0D=0AUnited States URL: URL:http://opjose.homeip.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20010825T134515Z END:VCARD Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?
Ron Johnson wrote: You have nothing else to do with your phone line, or have gotten a 2nd modem-only line. Or he runs the download over night, and restarts it the next night. After, all, a CD only takes about 65 hours on my 33.6 modem. ;-) Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Which Packages?
A brief question to the list. I just downloaded the 2.4.8 kernel, source, header, and documentation packages from rpmfind.net, after seeing that the 2.4.7 update was listed in my security update list. I have been reading the notes about NOT using Mandrake update and to do it manually. My question is, which packages and in what order do I install them? Thanks, Dennis in Victoria Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Rpm rebuild
Some rpms are not setup to deal with anything but i386 (codeweavers wine rpms for instance). You can add the i586 yourself to the specfile (look at the format used for i386 and do exactly the same thing...it has been a while - I think it is merely a matter of changing a 3 to a 5 on the exclusive arch line :). This isn't a bug or problem, just a question of how the specfile was written. On Saturday 08 September 2001 06:21 pm, you wrote: I just installed Linux Mandrake 8.1 beta 3 and now rpm gives me the following error when trying to rebuild rpms. rpm -bb --target=i586 specfile.spec --target=i586: unknown option I have spechelper installed. Any other ideas on what I need to install? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.7
Yes, but -21 is out already. I'd go with that one. I had trouble with -18 ( no kernel-specific initrd.img) Jay On Sunday 09 September 2001 03:21, I was honored with this communique: Too many messsages, so little time. So the zombie was fixed in -18?? -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I have misplaced my pants. - Homer J. Simpson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
On Sunday 09 September 2001 02:48, David Guntner wrote: I'm hoping that someone can help me here I'm running Mandrake 8.0, and when I ran MandrakeUpdate this morning, I noticed that there was a new kernel upgrade from my existing 2.4.3-20mdk to 2.4.7-12.3mdk. I selected the kernel, header, source, and doc .rpm files and let it do its thing. I now have a semi-crippled system. :-/ Modules don't seem to work anymore, so it can't find things like my sound card and ethernet card. When running depmod, I get an error message saying that /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/modules.dep can't be opened for writing - which makes sense considering it isn't there anymore :-) What I want to know is WHY does it want the old directory instead of the new one? For that matter, a uname -r command returns the old version number instead of the new one. Does anyone know what I'm missing, to get this thing back on its feet again? I did fix the broken symlinks in the /boot directory (which broke after running the upgrade), except for the initrd.img link, which is still pointing to a non-existant file. I can't run a mkinitrd command, because doing so gets me a message saying that the kernel doesn't know about the loop device (presumably since I can't load any modules until depmod knows where to look). Any assistance would be *greatly* appreciated. :-) --Dave use rpm to install kernel 2.4.3 from your install CDs Go pay the village scourger for five lashes for not reading the advisory which says that you should not use MandrakeUpdate on a kernel, never ever Download the kernel and install it with rpm -ivh This will leave LILO with a dual-boot--for old kernel and new kernel. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
civileme grabbed a keyboard and wrote: use rpm to install kernel 2.4.3 from your install CDs Go pay the village scourger for five lashes for not reading the advisory which says that you should not use MandrakeUpdate on a kernel, never ever Duely noted. Although I may end up flogging myself for this one. I can't mount the CD-ROM device with the currently-installed kernel (trying to do so results in a fs type iso9660 not supported by kernel message). I think I may now be Officially Hosed, and I'm going to have to re-install from scratch. Drat it all, anyway. You can *bet* I won't ever forget your advise about not using MandrakeUpdate to install a new kernel. Download the kernel and install it with rpm -ivh Will do, once I get the original system reinstalled. This will leave LILO with a dual-boot--for old kernel and new kernel. Out of curiosity, how does depmod know which kernel is in use, once the new one is online? Does it just determine based on what you booted with? Something else? Thanks for the reply! --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which Packages?
On Sunday 09 September 2001 08:02, Dennis Myhand wrote: A brief question to the list. I just downloaded the 2.4.8 kernel, source, header, and documentation packages from rpmfind.net, after seeing that the 2.4.7 update was listed in my security update list. I have been reading the notes about NOT using Mandrake update and to do it manually. My question is, which packages and in what order do I install them? Thanks, Dennis in Victoria If you have a plain vanilla desktop system without multiple CPUs and are not using a server, then the kernel-headers and kerbel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.i586.rpm Should be sufficient., though it is good policy to download and install kernel-source.. If your system is a bit more complicated, you will need a different set. So if it is complicated, please tell the list what it is and someone will make a recommendation. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Cannot startx
Having console ownership (I think) means that you're logged in as user X and haven't su-ed to a different user I get that error if I log into the console with my normal user id, then su to root, then try to startx... To fix the problem, I just log into the console as the user I want to run startx -- Davy John W wrote: I have upgraded to XFree86 4.1 via mandrake update. when I try to startx from run level 3 as a user i recieve the error, authentication failed-cannot start X server. Perhpas you do not have console ownership? This started becasue I wanted to isntall tux typing which required libSDL1.2, libSDL_mixer1.2 and libSDL_image1.2. I did not want to use a --nodeps or --force to get this game working so to fulfill deps i let the updater install a new Pam package and Xfree 4.1 and all the packages,fonts and all for X. I am running Mandrake 8.0 on kenel 2.4..3-20. (stock kernel I think,no upgrade) Any suggestions on what to do to be able to startx from the console as user? TIA, John W Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Cannot startx
This may not be what you want to do, but you could 'init 5' as root to start X... runlevel 5 is conventionally the usermode that starts X John W wrote: Entering xhost +localhost added the localhost without problem but I still cannot startx from the console as user. root access only. I am stuck here with what to do. I have ran the software mgr. as it is called and notice that X4.03 is still listed as installed along with X 4.1. I know that X 4.1 is cooker but it just doesn't make sense that this upgrade cannot be handled by the software supposedly designed to perform such a task. I think this goes hand-in -hand with the thread regarding fundamental problems with Linux... John At 11:52 PM 9/8/01 -0400, you wrote: I had the same kinda thing with mdk 7.1. Typing xhost + localhost in a term fixed stuff. Never *did* figure out EXACTLY what was happening.. Love Linux.. Just got SOOO much to learn. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sergio P.Korlowsky Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 11:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Cannot startx On Saturday 08 September 2001 21:26, you wrote: I have upgraded to XFree86 4.1 via mandrake update. when I try to startx from run level 3 as a user i recieve the error, authentication failed-cannot start X server. Perhpas you do not have console ownership? This started becasue I wanted to isntall tux typing which required libSDL1.2, libSDL_mixer1.2 and libSDL_image1.2. I did not want to use a --nodeps or --force to get this game working so to fulfill deps i let the updater install a new Pam package and Xfree 4.1 and all the packages,fonts and all for X. I am running Mandrake 8.0 on kenel 2.4..3-20. (stock kernel I think,no upgrade) Any suggestions on what to do to be able to startx from the console as user? TIA, John W Have you tried xhost localhost? as it looks like ownership only. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, civileme wrote: On Saturday 08 September 2001 12:38, Michael D. Viron wrote: At 05:01 PM 09/08/2001 +0200, joy_ping wrote: On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Ron Johnson wrote: Moving from mdk7.2 to 8.0 required a complete reinstall to make sure no ghosts from the past remain to cause problems. this is a mandrake thing i think. cause they have some misteries directory organisation, and they changed it so hard, that it is completly different from the further releases. its not only unusable for other software, its unusable for the mandrake-made-updatetools too!! The Mysterious Directory Organizaion you speak of is available at various web sites. I happen to keep a copy because I refer to it often in my job as a QA engineer. http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~civileme/fhs-2.2.pdf im started to read this doc and i agree with you that its a normal and good thing to make such kind of standartization, cause every linux-distribution seemed to made its own structure and was not very compatible with the other ones. but lets tell the truth: if mandrake made this really great step, with changing the directory-structure, updating some important libs, specially glibc, updating gcc (this is a special point too), for my taste you had to wait one - three months more till you released the 8.0 one, cause this 8.0 was not a real 0 one it was more an 7.9 i think. and the reason for this 0 release was not a rational one, depending on a development of a distribution, it was cause mandrake was going public on the financial market. please dont tell me the 8.0 release had nothing to do with the going public thing. its clear that your managment wanted this release BEFORE you were gone to the stock market. but anyway i installed the 8.0 release on one of our webservers and its running fine till now, but for a heavy-equipped router (4 networkcards, wireless, etc), im sad to tell you i choosed a debian distribution, cause i was afraid to change a mk-8.0-distro in a way that this router would work. r. z. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Partitioning question
Hi all, I'm setting up a machine with a 20-G hard drive to be a webserver and mysql server. I've been reading a lot of good things about Reiser FS (the MySQL docs recommend it also) and am planning to format most, if not all, of the disk this way. I'm using Mandrake 8.0, and I'm wondering which approach is better: one big Rieser FS partition, or a small ext2 / partition with the rest Rieser? And is it feasable to have /var, /usr, /home on one partition, and the system stuff like /boot, /etc, /dev on one ext2 partition? Thanks for any input. Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
On Sunday 09 September 2001 01:48, you wrote: I'm hoping that someone can help me here I'm running Mandrake 8.0, and when I ran MandrakeUpdate this morning, I noticed that there was a new kernel upgrade from my existing 2.4.3-20mdk to 2.4.7-12.3mdk. I selected the kernel, header, source, and doc .rpm files and let it do its thing. I now have a semi-crippled system. :-/ Modules don't seem to work anymore, so it can't find things like my sound card and ethernet card. When running depmod, I get an error message saying that /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/modules.dep can't be opened for writing - which makes sense considering it isn't there anymore :-) What I want to know is WHY does it want the old directory instead of the new one? For that matter, a uname -r command returns the old version number instead of the new one. Does anyone know what I'm missing, to get this thing back on its feet again? I did fix the broken symlinks in the /boot directory (which broke after running the upgrade), except for the initrd.img link, which is still pointing to a non-existant file. I can't run a mkinitrd command, because doing so gets me a message saying that the kernel doesn't know about the loop device (presumably since I can't load any modules until depmod knows where to look). Any assistance would be *greatly* appreciated. :-) --Dave Did you use mandrakeupdate to upgrade your kernel? I can't believe it! with all that talk about not doing it.. sk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
Sergio P.Korlowsky grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Did you use mandrakeupdate to upgrade your kernel? I can't believe it! with all that talk about not doing it.. Well, thank you. That was a *tremendously* helpful reply. I only recently discovered this mailing list, so I never saw any of the talk about not doing it. Sorry, but I left my crystal ball in my other pants :-) Thanks to those, BTW, who along with well-deserved chastisement, also offered some *helpful* advise. It was much appreciated. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Partitioning question
Daniel Axtell grabbed a keyboard and wrote: I'm setting up a machine with a 20-G hard drive to be a webserver and mysql server. I've been reading a lot of good things about Reiser FS (the MySQL docs recommend it also) and am planning to format most, if not all, of the disk this way. I'm using Mandrake 8.0, and I'm wondering which approach is better: one big Rieser FS partition, or a small ext2 / partition with the rest Rieser? And is it feasable to have /var, /usr, /home on one partition, and the system stuff like /boot, /etc, /dev on one ext2 partition? I'm using Mandrake 8.0 also, and I don't know if it was due to something I did wrong, or just a problem in general, but I found that if everything was Reiser FS, it wouldn't boot. My way of getting around it was to create a 30M /boot partition (bigger than will probably be needed :) formatted as ext2, and then everything else (/home, /usr, etc.) was formatted as Reiser FS. HTH. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?
I got nothing to do with Mandrake execpt purchase the software and enjoy it and this list. I seemed to me that the fact the kernal changed from 2.2.x to 2.4.x and KDE had moved from a 1.0.x had a LOT more to do with it than the IPO. Of course i did not have the great ability to read minds you seem to have. I would wonder (I bet you know this too though) why you would be afraid to change MANDRAKE but not debian. im started to read this doc and i agree with you that its a normal and good thing to make such kind of standartization, cause every linux-distribution seemed to made its own structure and was not very compatible with the other ones. but lets tell the truth: if mandrake made this really great step, with changing the directory-structure, updating some important libs, specially glibc, updating gcc (this is a special point too), for my taste you had to wait one - three months more till you released the 8.0 one, cause this 8.0 was not a real 0 one it was more an 7.9 i think. and the reason for this 0 release was not a rational one, depending on a development of a distribution, it was cause mandrake was going public on the financial market. please dont tell me the 8.0 release had nothing to do with the going public thing. its clear that your managment wanted this release BEFORE you were gone to the stock market. but anyway i installed the 8.0 release on one of our webservers and its running fine till now, but for a heavy-equipped router (4 networkcards, wireless, etc), im sad to tell you i choosed a debian distribution, cause i was afraid to change a mk-8.0-distro in a way that this router would work. r. z. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Partitioning question
El Dom 09 Sep 2001 19:10, escribiste: Daniel Axtell grabbed a keyboard and wrote: I'm setting up a machine with a 20-G hard drive to be a webserver and mysql server. I've been reading a lot of good things about Reiser FS (the MySQL docs recommend it also) and am planning to format most, if not all, of the disk this way. I'm using Mandrake 8.0, and I'm wondering which approach is better: one big Rieser FS partition, or a small ext2 / partition with the rest Rieser? And is it feasable to have /var, /usr, /home on one partition, and the system stuff like /boot, /etc, /dev on one ext2 partition? I'm using Mandrake 8.0 also, and I don't know if it was due to something I did wrong, or just a problem in general, but I found that if everything was Reiser FS, it wouldn't boot. My way of getting around it was to create a 30M /boot partition (bigger than will probably be needed :) formatted as ext2, and then everything else (/home, /usr, etc.) was formatted as Reiser FS. HTH. --Dave Hi, I have LM8.0 (MandrakeFreq2) installed in one big ReiserFS partition. And my system boots ok! (I selected ReiserFS for the / partition when installing LM8.0). BTW, I know that if you recompile the kernel you must compile ReiserFS inside the kernel, not as a module, or the system will not boot and you will need a rescue disk with ReiserFS support in kernel. When LM8.1 arrives, I will test ext3, because I believe it may be a good alternative. Salu2 óscar. -- Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Cannot startx
I tried changing to INIT 5 and still could not startx as my user account. I can SU to root and starx there but I don't care if root can startx. John This may not be what you want to do, but you could 'init 5' as root to start X... runlevel 5 is conventionally the usermode that starts X John W wrote: Entering xhost +localhost added the localhost without problem but I still cannot startx from the console as user. root access only. I am stuck here with what to do. I have ran the software mgr. as it is called and notice that X4.03 is still listed as installed along with X 4.1. I know that X 4.1 is cooker but it just doesn't make sense that this upgrade cannot be handled by the software supposedly designed to perform such a task. I think this goes hand-in -hand with the thread regarding fundamental problems with Linux... John At 11:52 PM 9/8/01 -0400, you wrote: I had the same kinda thing with mdk 7.1. Typing xhost + localhost in a term fixed stuff. Never *did* figure out EXACTLY what was happening.. Love Linux.. Just got SOOO much to learn. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sergio P.Korlowsky Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 11:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Cannot startx On Saturday 08 September 2001 21:26, you wrote: I have upgraded to XFree86 4.1 via mandrake update. when I try to startx from run level 3 as a user i recieve the error, authentication failed-cannot start X server. Perhpas you do not have console ownership? This started becasue I wanted to isntall tux typing which required libSDL1.2, libSDL_mixer1.2 and libSDL_image1.2. I did not want to use a --nodeps or --force to get this game working so to fulfill deps i let the updater install a new Pam package and Xfree 4.1 and all the packages,fonts and all for X. I am running Mandrake 8.0 on kenel 2.4..3-20. (stock kernel I think,no upgrade) Any suggestions on what to do to be able to startx from the console as user? TIA, John W Have you tried xhost localhost? as it looks like ownership only. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 September 2001 03:30 am, David Guntner wrote: civileme grabbed a keyboard and wrote: [snip] Out of curiosity, how does depmod know which kernel is in use, once the new one is online? Does it just determine based on what you booted with? Something else? Yes, it looks in /lib/modules/boot-version $ ls -1 /lib/modules/ 2.4.3-20mdk/ 2.4.6-3mdk/ 2.4.7-12.3mdk/ 2.4.9/ - -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA | || | 484,246 sq mi are needed for 6 billion people to live, 4 ! ! persons per lot, in lots that are 60'x150'.| ! That is ~ California, Texas and Missouri. ! ! Alternatively, France, Spain and The United Kingdom. | ++ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7m9CVjTz5dS9Us5wRArGXAJ4iZXQcr61GeKmWDKwcPhH9IazcwACfaAqg O08fsCxQCgZ3kf2QkWiIk8k= =DzIB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
David, I went through this fun about 2 weeks ago (you can search the archives for the problems I went through--I got some helpful replies, but some questions were never answered...). One fundamental problem is that the ram disk wasn't updated on your system (this happened to me too). Sounds like you're lucky though--you must not be using all Reiserfs partitions. I was, and the kernel upgrade rendered my system unbootable. After a lot of tries, I finally got my system sort-of booting again, at which time I immediately built a kernel from source. I'll never use RPMs to update the kernel again. I had been routinely building 2.2 kernels from source on my MDK7.2 system, but hadn't gotten around to familiarizing myself with the 2.4 kernel options yet. No time like the present to learn. :-) I'm still having the problem with being unable to generate a ramdisk using my 2.4.9 kernel (sounds like it's the same problem you have). If you find a resolution to that, I'd be very interested in hearing about it. I haven't had time to try to track it down. Dan On Sun, 2001-09-09 at 00:48, David Guntner wrote: I'm hoping that someone can help me here I'm running Mandrake 8.0, and when I ran MandrakeUpdate this morning, I noticed that there was a new kernel upgrade from my existing 2.4.3-20mdk to 2.4.7-12.3mdk. I selected the kernel, header, source, and doc .rpm files and let it do its thing. I now have a semi-crippled system. :-/ Modules don't seem to work anymore, so it can't find things like my sound card and ethernet card. When running depmod, I get an error message saying that /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/modules.dep can't be opened for writing - which makes sense considering it isn't there anymore :-) What I want to know is WHY does it want the old directory instead of the new one? For that matter, a uname -r command returns the old version number instead of the new one. Does anyone know what I'm missing, to get this thing back on its feet again? I did fix the broken symlinks in the /boot directory (which broke after running the upgrade), except for the initrd.img link, which is still pointing to a non-existant file. I can't run a mkinitrd command, because doing so gets me a message saying that the kernel doesn't know about the loop device (presumably since I can't load any modules until depmod knows where to look). Any assistance would be *greatly* appreciated. :-) --Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fundamental problem with Linux on the mass markey desktop?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 September 2001 05:58 am, Randy Kramer wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: You have nothing else to do with your phone line, or have gotten a 2nd modem-only line. Or he runs the download over night, and restarts it the next night. After, all, a CD only takes about 65 hours on my 33.6 modem. ;-) So It would take EIGHT nights (presuming he starts it when he goes to sleep, and sleeps 8 hours). grin A 56K modem might only take 6 nights... - -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA | || | 484,246 sq mi are needed for 6 billion people to live, 4 ! ! persons per lot, in lots that are 60'x150'.| ! That is ~ California, Texas and Missouri. ! ! Alternatively, France, Spain and The United Kingdom. | ++ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7m9VajTz5dS9Us5wRAvuBAJ4jF5mAw6UFpw9nik1qAUIpWWtROwCfVlbp KpgQKUyZ9cuVvLx0bpYBTqw= =5Fj4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
On Sun, 2001-09-09 at 15:06, David Guntner wrote: So, despite my best efforts to reverse my mistake (and thanks again to those who replied with helpful suggestions - I did learn a bunch of things from them), it looks like I get to reinstall from scratch again after all. Dammit. What's annoying about it is that it's sooo bloody time consuming, and with the 8.1 final release coming up, I hate to have to go through this so close to the next install. :-) What I ended up doing was copying the kernel from the rescue floppy (actually the MDK8.0 install floppy) onto /boot, then pointing lilo.conf to that kernel. From there I was able to boot up enough to be able to compile 2.4.9 from source (I had previously downloaded it). I compiled Reiserfs into the kernel (as opposed to as a module, which is what the Mandrake kernel RPMs do). From there I was mostly back up and running. Here's a quick synopsis (from memory, so it may not be perfect). 1. Boot the MDK 8.0 installation floppy, hit F1 and boot the rescue option. 2. Mount your /boot and /etc partitions (use symbolic links as necessary). 3. Copy the kernel from the floppy onto your HD and update lilo. 4. Reboot--you should be able to at least boot up, but X may or may not start. One thing, though, which hasn't been adequately explained to me: By what magic does depmod know *which* of the directories under /lib/modules to pull from? How does it know which version of the kernel that you're running? Does anyone know the answer to this mystery? :-) Well, uname -r gives the running kernel version. I assume depmod does something along those lines to figure out what to use. I'm still having the problem with being unable to generate a ramdisk using my 2.4.9 kernel (sounds like it's the same problem you have). If you find a resolution to that, I'd be very interested in hearing about it. I haven't had time to try to track it down. You're talking about the initrd.img file, or something else? That's what I'm talking about. I can't generate one from my current kernel that I compiled. It complains about not finding the reiserfs modules, even though I don't have reiserfs compiled as a module. It must be looking for some other file left over from a MDK kernel RPM, but I haven't had time to figure it out yet. Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which Packages?
Run MandrakeUpdate and see what packages it reccomends - Done push the button to download em - do that manually. ftp the packages it lists to /tmp and then cd /tmp and rpm -ivh kernel*.rpm (note the i) and let rpm work out what's needed. It will tell you if something is missing that it needs. BillK On Sun, 2001-09-09 at 20:02, Dennis Myhand wrote: A brief question to the list. I just downloaded the 2.4.8 kernel, source, header, and documentation packages from rpmfind.net, after seeing that the 2.4.7 update was listed in my security update list. I have been reading the notes about NOT using Mandrake update and to do it manually. My question is, which packages and in what order do I install them? Thanks, Dennis in Victoria Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Documentation for rpm-python/rpmmodule?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, all. A search through Google doesn't show any. Thanks. - -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA | || | 484,246 sq mi are needed for 6 billion people to live, 4 ! ! persons per lot, in lots that are 60'x150'.| ! That is ~ California, Texas and Missouri. ! ! Alternatively, France, Spain and The United Kingdom. | ++ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7m/zvjTz5dS9Us5wRAmjMAJ0V2u/d2xM20vEt7ortxvE7ry/YAQCfUgUD Sesqt+Xrv/rEmq8hVH+LB5E= =JE+v -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Cannot startx
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:39:02 -0700 John W [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: JW I tried changing to INIT 5 and still could not startx as my user JW account. I JW can SU to root and starx there but I don't care if root can startx. JW JW John == Do you mean that you edited /etc/inittab ? Did you, as root, that the 3 to a 5 in the line: id:3:initdefault By changing that 3 to a 5, x should start BEFORE anyone, including root logs in. You'll start some type of graphical login screen. HTH, Mike -- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
Maybe: Could the folks at Mandrake modify the MandrakeUpdate program to print out some wise words of advise, instead of doing what is asked, whenever someone tries to upgrade the kernel? From: Sergio P.Korlowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:35:01 -0500 On Sunday 09 September 2001 01:48, you wrote: I'm hoping that someone can help me here I'm running Mandrake 8.0, and when I ran MandrakeUpdate this morning, I noticed that there was a new kernel upgrade from my existing 2.4.3-20mdk to 2.4.7-12.3mdk. I selected the kernel, header, source, and doc .rpm files and let it do its thing. I now have a semi-crippled system. :-/ Modules don't seem to work anymore, so it can't find things like my sound card and ethernet card. When running depmod, I get an error message saying that /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/modules.dep can't be opened for writing - which makes sense considering it isn't there anymore :-) What I want to know is WHY does it want the old directory instead of the new one? For that matter, a uname -r command returns the old version number instead of the new one. Does anyone know what I'm missing, to get this thing back on its feet again? I did fix the broken symlinks in the /boot directory (which broke after running the upgrade), except for the initrd.img link, which is still pointing to a non-existant file. I can't run a mkinitrd command, because doing so gets me a message saying that the kernel doesn't know about the loop device (presumably since I can't load any modules until depmod knows where to look). Any assistance would be *greatly* appreciated. :-) --Dave Did you use mandrakeupdate to upgrade your kernel? I can't believe it! with all that talk about not doing it.. sk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
Brian Schroeder grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Maybe: Could the folks at Mandrake modify the MandrakeUpdate program to print out some wise words of advise, instead of doing what is asked, whenever someone tries to upgrade the kernel? THAT would be an extremely helpful thing for them to do. Judging from the reactions that I've seen here, I'm obviously not the first person to get bitten by this problem. Anyone from Mandrake on this list? :-) --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GRUB will not install
Try this: grub --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --batch EOF install (hd0,4)/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd0,4)/grub/stage2 p (hd0,4)/grub/menu.lst quit EOF where the 4 in hd0,4 indicates the partition which has the /boot direcotry, counting from 0, not 1 like fdisk does. Ps. Line install and following line (hd0,4...) are just 1 line. Ignore extra spaces I put in there. -- Gerard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday 09 September 2001 16:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when i try to install GRUB from the GRUB prompt it will not install. i do root (hd0,0) and it's good then find /boot/grub/stage1 and it's good but then when i try setup (hd0) or setup (hd0,0) i get file not found any suggestions? Adrian Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
Dan Hensley grabbed a keyboard and wrote: I went through this fun about 2 weeks ago (you can search the archives for the problems I went through--I got some helpful replies, but some questions were never answered...). :-) One fundamental problem is that the ram disk wasn't updated on your system (this happened to me too). Sounds like you're lucky though--you must not be using all Reiserfs partitions. I was, and the kernel upgrade rendered my system unbootable. Well, in the process of trying to back out the new kernel and replacing the old kernel, I managed to have that end up happening to me. The system said, after I had reinstalled the kernel from the CD-ROM, that it couldn't mount / at boot time (kernel panic). Oops. My / system *is* Reiser FS. I think, based on what you're saying, that the stock kernel .rpm file off of the CD-ROM may not know what to do with it. I had set up a /boot partition which was ext2, which had previously let me boot up the system. So, despite my best efforts to reverse my mistake (and thanks again to those who replied with helpful suggestions - I did learn a bunch of things from them), it looks like I get to reinstall from scratch again after all. Dammit. What's annoying about it is that it's sooo bloody time consuming, and with the 8.1 final release coming up, I hate to have to go through this so close to the next install. :-) After a lot of tries, I finally got my system sort-of booting again, at which time I immediately built a kernel from source. I'll never use RPMs to update the kernel again. I had been routinely building 2.2 kernels from source on my MDK7.2 system, but hadn't gotten around to familiarizing myself with the 2.4 kernel options yet. No time like the present to learn. :-) I'm *definitely* thinking along these lines, too. I think from now on I'll just grab the source, doc, and header .rpm files and install them, and then compile the kernel. I've been browsing verious sources to get myself back up to speed (used to do this back in the Red Hat 2.x days; then I got lazy... :) on kernel compiling, so I think I'll be able to handle it from there. Maybe. :-) One thing, though, which hasn't been adequately explained to me: By what magic does depmod know *which* of the directories under /lib/modules to pull from? How does it know which version of the kernel that you're running? Does anyone know the answer to this mystery? :-) I'm still having the problem with being unable to generate a ramdisk using my 2.4.9 kernel (sounds like it's the same problem you have). If you find a resolution to that, I'd be very interested in hearing about it. I haven't had time to try to track it down. You're talking about the initrd.img file, or something else? --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] need help with scsi HDD
I just bought a new system from my company... it's a PII 400 mhz, 128 mg Ram, with 9.1 SCSI HDD Compaq DeskPro EN workstation with a BIOS rompac of 4-14-98 my old system...has a 20 gig IDE HDD from Maxtor. I currently have win98 2nd edition FULL version installed... and I wish to utilize the 20 gig strictly for Linux... I've got the 20 gig installed and seen as the primary IDE drive. and have linux-mandrake 8.0 installed on it. I've never had a SCSI device before...so i don't know how to set this up according to compac site...if I setup the SCSI as the primary scsi master, and the 20 gig as the primary IDE, it will always boot from off the 20 gig. this seems to be true, cause it is booting the 20 gig IDE first, instead of the SCSI. I still wish to have the scsi boot first...with win98? How do I accomplish this ? right now, I have LILO setup to boot linuxcan i set it up to boot win98/SCSI first...? if so, then how do I reboot into linux, the next time...? Can I perhaps install Partition Magic, Boot Magic to win98...and do it that way? someone told me I can't do that...with a SCSI. My HP 9150i CD-RW drive, is setup as the (D: drive), ... and the compaq is the slave (E: drive) can someone help me...please...? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] GRUB will not install
yeah, the other thing that would be good, is for mandrakeupdate to detect if the newer kernel is installed AS WELL AS the older one... since it has been recommended by many to install not upgrade the kernel. if it looked for the newer kernel as well as the older one, it could remove it from the list... I installed the newer 2.2.19-4 kernel ages ago and mandrake update still tells me it needs to be upgraded.. uname indicates I am definately running the newer one... just annoying since I usually just tick everything that it suggests to update and let it go, but if I accidently tick the kernel, it pops up the error message that its already installed and stops... (I do alot of updates unattended,, so I don't find out till later that it didn't finish updating everything...) just a thought.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerard Perreault Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] GRUB will not install Try this: grub --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --batch EOF install (hd0,4)/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd0,4)/grub/stage2 p (hd0,4)/grub/menu.lst quit EOF where the 4 in hd0,4 indicates the partition which has the /boot direcotry, counting from 0, not 1 like fdisk does. Ps. Line install and following line (hd0,4...) are just 1 line. Ignore extra spaces I put in there. -- Gerard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday 09 September 2001 16:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when i try to install GRUB from the GRUB prompt it will not install. i do root (hd0,0) and it's good then find /boot/grub/stage1 and it's good but then when i try setup (hd0) or setup (hd0,0) i get file not found any suggestions? Adrian Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Usenet News server
Hi, I am in the process of building a small scall news server. I am studying INN at the moment. Can anyone give me some pointers? Things I am wondering about are news feeds. Where are they, and who runs them? Fees involved, etc. Also wondering if INN is the way to go, or is the another one to consider? I am looking at a 24/7 connection for a few groups. TIA Bruce Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problem with kernel upgrade
Dan Hensley grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Sun, 2001-09-09 at 15:06, David Guntner wrote: What I ended up doing was copying the kernel from the rescue floppy (actually the MDK8.0 install floppy) onto /boot, then pointing lilo.conf to that kernel. From there I was able to boot up enough to be able to compile 2.4.9 from source (I had previously downloaded it). I compiled Reiserfs into the kernel (as opposed to as a module, which is what the Mandrake kernel RPMs do). From there I was mostly back up and running. Here's a quick synopsis (from memory, so it may not be perfect). 1. Boot the MDK 8.0 installation floppy, hit F1 and boot the rescue option. 2. Mount your /boot and /etc partitions (use symbolic links as necessary). 3. Copy the kernel from the floppy onto your HD and update lilo. 4. Reboot--you should be able to at least boot up, but X may or may not start. I didn't see your message until it was too late. :-) But I'll keep it in mind, should there be a Next Time. (Isn't there *always*? :) I'm still having the problem with being unable to generate a ramdisk using my 2.4.9 kernel (sounds like it's the same problem you have). If you find a resolution to that, I'd be very interested in hearing about it. I haven't had time to try to track it down. You're talking about the initrd.img file, or something else? That's what I'm talking about. I can't generate one from my current kernel that I compiled. It complains about not finding the reiserfs modules, even though I don't have reiserfs compiled as a module. It must be looking for some other file left over from a MDK kernel RPM, but I haven't had time to figure it out yet. I'll see what happens on this next go around. I goofed on something (d'oh!) and am reinstalling again. But while I had it up the last time, I did the rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.rpm to install the new kernel, and a reboot worked (I may still recompile from the source code once I've got everything in place). Although I got a message about supermount not being supported by the kernel. I have no idea what gives at this point, hopefully it will turn out to be something simple - maybe even a kernel compile will be able to add it properly. :-) After the compile, should I do one, I'll see what a mkinitrd command turns up. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] httpd as root
It would help to know what version of apache, what your error log says (/var/log/httpd/error_log), and what line(s) in the apache configuration file you are trying to change. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 10:21 AM 09/10/2001 +0700, Mulus wrote: has anyone had any problem with changing user directive in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf to user and group root, in Mandrake 8.0 ? httpd service can not start if I change the directive to user/group root. any help would be appreciated. -- Best regards, Mulusmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Usenet News server
Most feeder sites will now charge you a monthy/yearly fee... You may find a few free sites available, but normally the groups they carry are fairly limited. Everything depends upon what you are trying to do. There are packages add ons for INN which permit only certain (user selected) accounts to be downloaded. Others grab the entire feed. If you merely want to grab all the articles in certain groups look at suck or other such packages. -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bruce E.Harris |Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 7:37 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [expert] Usenet News server | | |Hi, | |I am in the process of building a small scall news server. I |am studying INN |at the moment. Can anyone give me some pointers? Things I am |wondering about |are news feeds. Where are they, and who runs them? Fees |involved, etc. Also |wondering if INN is the way to go, or is the another one to |consider? I am |looking at a 24/7 connection for a few groups. | |TIA | |Bruce | | BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Sanchez;Jose;M FN:Jose M Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ORG:Net Results, Inc.;Lan Support TITLE:Lan Support TEL;WORK;VOICE:301-972-8271 TEL;HOME;VOICE:301-972-8507 TEL;CELL;VOICE:301-502-0151 TEL;WORK;FAX:301-349-2201 TEL;HOME;FAX:301-349-2201 ADR;WORK:;301-972-8271;17206 Spates Hill Road;Poolesville;Maryland;20837;United States LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:301-972-8271=0D=0A17206 Spates Hill Road=0D=0APoolesville, Maryland 20837= =0D=0AUnited States ADR;HOME:;;17206 Spates Hill Road;Poolesville;Maryland;20837;United States LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:17206 Spates Hill Road=0D=0APoolesville, Maryland 20837=0D=0AUnited States URL: URL:http://opjose.homeip.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20010825T134515Z END:VCARD Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Which Packages?
Another way without using MandrakeUpdate is to rpm -qa | grep kernel. This will list the packages on your system. On Sunday 09 September 2001 15:59 pm, you wrote: Run MandrakeUpdate and see what packages it reccomends - Done push the button to download em - do that manually. ftp the packages it lists to /tmp and then cd /tmp and rpm -ivh kernel*.rpm (note the i) and let rpm work out what's needed. It will tell you if something is missing that it needs. BillK On Sun, 2001-09-09 at 20:02, Dennis Myhand wrote: A brief question to the list. I just downloaded the 2.4.8 kernel, source, header, and documentation packages from rpmfind.net, after seeing that the 2.4.7 update was listed in my security update list. I have been reading the notes about NOT using Mandrake update and to do it manually. My question is, which packages and in what order do I install them? Thanks, Dennis in Victoria Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Viewing .wmv files in LInux without using windows???
Can windows media files such as .wmv be viewed in Linux other than porting the ms media player across. I really don't have any other need for windows products bar this one and don not wish to install windows at all. I can't seem to find any linux program that plays these files OR is there a way of converting the .wmv to a readable file such as mpg thanx Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] httpd as root
has anyone had any problem with changing user directive in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf to user and group root, in Mandrake 8.0 ? httpd service can not start if I change the directive to user/group root. any help would be appreciated. -- Best regards, Mulusmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Usenet News server
Bruce E.Harris grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
I am in the process of building a small scall news server. I am studying INN
at the moment. Can anyone give me some pointers? Things I am wondering about
are news feeds. Where are they, and who runs them? Fees involved, etc. Also
wondering if INN is the way to go, or is the another one to consider? I am
looking at a 24/7 connection for a few groups.
It's been a few years since I admin'd a news server at a university, so I
no longer remember completely how I went about getting my feeds. :-) The
people who feed our site did so for free. There may still be some who are
willing to exchange a news feed with you for free, depending on your needs,
etc.
As to where are they, look at the Path: line in the header of any news
article, you'll see the sites the article went through to get to your
point. You can try contacting the admins of those sites. I seem to
remember posting an article in one of the new.admin{.*} groups asking for a
few people willing to exchange a feed with us - you might want to try
looking around in those groups.
Good luck! :-)
--Dave
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Re[2]: [expert] httpd as root
Hello Michael, Monday, September 10, 2001, 11:18:27 AM, you wrote: MDV It would help to know what version of apache, what your error log says i installed it from Mandrake 8.0 rpm package. MDV (/var/log/httpd/error_log), and what line(s) in the apache configuration [root@starwars conf]# service httpd start Starting httpd-perl: Error: Apache has not been designed to serve pages while running as root. There are known race conditions that will allow any local user to read any file on the system. If you still desire to serve pages as root then add -DBIG_SECURITY_HOLE to the EXTRA_CFLAGS line in your src/Configuration file and rebuild the server. It is strongly suggested that you instead modify the User directive in your httpd.conf file to list a non-root user. [FAILED] Starting httpd: Error: Apache has not been designed to serve pages while running as root. There are known race conditions that will allow any local user to read any file on the system. If you still desire to serve pages as root then add -DBIG_SECURITY_HOLE to the EXTRA_CFLAGS line in your src/Configuration file and rebuild the server. It is strongly suggested that you instead modify the User directive in your httpd.conf file to list a non-root user. [FAILED] MDV file you are trying to change. in /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf : ### Common server configuration # User apache Group apache ... do i have to download tgz package, and compile a new apache..? :( -- Best regards, Mulusmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] GRUB will not install
when i try to install GRUB from the GRUB prompt it will not install. i do root (hd0,0) and it's good then find /boot/grub/stage1 and it's good but then when i try setup (hd0) or setup (hd0,0) i get file not found any suggestions? Adrian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
