Re: [expert] Survey (was Thanks Civileme)
You seem to be assuming that the only way to contribute to a distribution is to pay money to its makers. Mandrake has many volunteers who contribute their time and efforts instead of money. I am one such person. Often these contributions can far outweigh the cost of a boxed set or Club subscription. Paying money to a distribution company/organisation is a relatively new phenomenon. Traditionally in the free software/open source community, if you like something and want to give something back in return, you use your own blood, sweat and tears. IMHO, it is these people who are keeping the true spirit of the community alive. On 14 Aug 2002 15:53:32 +1200, Damon Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 14:39, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: So my current suggestion to anyone who has bothered to read this far is to perhaps consider becoming activist with regard to Mandrake (if you havent already), each in his/her own way, but with financial concerns being paramount in your mind. This is partly why I am suggesting to the New Zealand Open Source Society a survey on NZ Linux users to survey financial support for Linux distros. I have drafted the following questions, on which folks may like to improve: 1)Have you ever contributed financially to a Linux distribution? 1.1.Yes 1.2.No, but perhaps I should 1.3.No, I never will 1.4.No, I contribute code instead 1.5.No, but I do a lot of testing of beta releases 1.6.No, I use a distribution that requires no revenue 2)If yes, did you contribute via: 2.1.Purchasing a boxed set 2.2.Making a donation 2.3.Paying for services (e.g. Mandrake Club, Red Hat Network) 2.4.Buying shares 3)If yes, have you contributed: 3.1.Regularly 3.2.Occasionally 3.3.Only once 4)If yes, to which distribution(s): 4.1.Mandrake 4.2.Red Hat 4.3.Suse 4.4.Debian 4.5.Gentoo 4.6.Sourcemage 4.7.Other: __ 5)Do you think contributing financially is a good idea? 5.1.No, Linux is free and users should never have to pay anything for it 5.2.Yes, distribution companies and volunteers have to survive somehow 6)Is Linux and open source software generally a social good in the sense of values like openness and cooperation, in contrast to piracy and secrecy that often accompanies closed source software? 6.1.Yes, Linux use should be encouraged 6.2.No, Microsoft is correct when they describe core Linux philosophies as being like a cancer 6.3.I don't have a clue what is being asked 6.4.Other: 7)If you answered No to 5 and Yes to 6, how to you envisage developers of open source software should be paid? ___ 8)Do people who distribute self-burned Linux CDs in NZ have a moral obligation to contribute financially to the Linux distributions they are selling: 8.1.Yes 8.2.No 9)Do you believe commercial Linux distributions are: 9.1.Doomed to failure because of the licensing scheme of the GPL 9.2.Potentially have a healthy future as more people use Linux 9.3.Don't know 10)Who are you representing when answering this survey: 10.1 commercial business 10.2 government agency 10.3 non-profit organisation 10.4 private non-commercial user 10.5 other: ___ Overall I think a survey like this is a good idea because it would be useful for: 1. Finding out the attitudes and actions of NZ Linux users 2. Potentially be useful to Linux distributions who do require revenue / income from users 3. Raise consciousness and debate over the need for financial contributions 4. Identify how many users give something back, and not just take 5. There would be no identification of who filled it out, so it should be practically anonymous (except for IP I guess) 6. Generate publicity for the NZ Open Source Society (which is just starting up) Damon -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum, Computer Networks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Survey (was Thanks Civileme)
On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 19:56, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: You seem to be assuming that the only way to contribute to a distribution is to pay money to its makers. 1)Have you ever contributed financially to a Linux distribution? 1.4.No, I contribute code instead 1.5.No, but I do a lot of testing of beta releases Hi Sridhar, Did you read question 1? I think the above covers what you are suggesting rather well but if you can think of better wording then please feel free to articulate it and I'll certainly consider it. Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Survey (was Thanks Civileme)
On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 17:30, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: This is an excellent idea, and if you don't mind I'd like to use this? Yes please do use it but by all means try to improve it. I have no training in surveys and I'm sure it could be improved. Also if you could give us feedback in how it is used, that would be cool. Thanks, Damon -- http://www.asianreflection.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] console cd roms contents problems
Dear friends, I am testing Beta 9.2 and I have a problem that I had also in the beta 1; I can see the contents of the cdroms (I have two cdrom drivers) using konqueror or similar graphics applications (krusader, nautilus,..) but if I try to do that from a console, even with the konqueror showing the cd contents, I have the next message when using the command ls: ls: .: Stale NFS file handle I can move throughout the cdrom directories if I know the names of them, but never ls shows me the contents. Could be a bug or what? I must say that ls runs fine for harddisk contents. Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Thanks Civileme (was Mandrake Club advocates: PostPo sitive)
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: But one does have to wonder how much Civileme's attitude will change. ;) In the past, we could always count on his level-headedness in defending some of Mandrakesofts decisions, and to point out the good business sense behind them. It has been a calming influence in many discussions on this list that have, at times become heated. It will be interesting to see if he can maintain that calm now. And if he'll be so quick to defend Mandrakesoft. Just some stray thoughts, from a madman... Although, I never did quite figure out how to pronounce your name! G -- Ric Tibbetts Unix Systems Admin. Ric, I don't look for them to change at all. Once level-headed always level-headed. :) Yeah, I know. And we all appreciate him. My comment was more tongue-in-cheek in nature, and directed not so much at his in-depth knowledge of Linux, and willingness to help, as much toward his past support, and defense of MandrakeSoft. But again, it was intended to be light-hearted in nature. Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Hello List
I've been a Cooker List subscriber/user for some time now but I just subscribed here. A big hello from a ML fan and I look forward to the discussions with you all. Regards, Jason Greenwood Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Bastille killed nfs! :-(
LOL Sorry.. Been there, done that. I cut a server off at the knees doing things like that. The toughest lesson I had to learn when I first got into Unix many years ago: Screw the GUI, do it by hand. Then when something breaks, you know what it was, and how to fix it. vi/iptables is your friend. Don't trust your site security to a GUI, it's like trusting your 5 year old with a loaded 357. JMHO-YMMV -- Ric Tibbetts Unix Systems Admin. f u cn rd ths u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn -Original Message- From: Ronald J. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:32 PM To: Mandrake Expert List Subject: [expert] Bastille killed nfs! :-( Well, I had nfs running perfectly, and then (sadly) I ran BastilleChooser. I picked lax and workstation. Now, I've no longer got nfs. I finally removed all Bastille RPMs thru the software manager, but I still have no nfs. Its installed, its checked under services. If I do a rpcinfo -p, I get this: [root@darkforce darklord]# rpcinfo -p program vers proto port 102 tcp111 portmapper 102 udp111 portmapper 1000241 udp 32768 status 1000241 tcp 32768 status 6001000691 udp797 fypxfrd 6001000691 tcp799 fypxfrd 3910022 tcp 32769 sgi_fam I can do a service nfs restart and directly run rpc.nfsd and then I get: [root@darkforce darklord]# rpcinfo -p program vers proto port 102 tcp111 portmapper 102 udp111 portmapper 1000241 udp 32768 status 1000241 tcp 32768 status 6001000691 udp797 fypxfrd 6001000691 tcp799 fypxfrd 3910022 tcp 32769 sgi_fam 151 udp 32770 mountd 151 tcp 32770 mountd 152 udp 32770 mountd 152 tcp 32770 mountd 153 udp 32770 mountd 153 tcp 32770 mountd 132 udp 2049 nfs 133 udp 2049 nfs 1000211 udp 32771 nlockmgr 1000213 udp 32771 nlockmgr 1000214 udp 32771 nlockmgr Now, nfs is up and running. Until I reboot. Then I have to go thru the same thing again. So my questions are: How to get nfs auto running at boot up again? How can a person use Bastille so that it doesn't kill nfs and your LAN? Thanks everyone... -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Thanks Civileme (was Mandrake Club advocates: PostPo sitive)
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: But one does have to wonder how much Civileme's attitude will change. ;) In the past, we could always count on his level-headedness in defending some of Mandrakesofts decisions, and to point out the good business sense behind them. It has been a calming influence in many discussions on this list that have, at times become heated. It will be interesting to see if he can maintain that calm now. And if he'll be so quick to defend Mandrakesoft. Just some stray thoughts, from a madman... Although, I never did quite figure out how to pronounce your name! G -- Ric Tibbetts Unix Systems Admin. Ric, I don't look for them to change at all. Once level-headed always level-headed. :) Yeah, I know. And we all appreciate him. My comment was more tongue-in-cheek in nature, and directed not so much at his in-depth knowledge of Linux, and willingness to help, as much toward his past support, and defense of MandrakeSoft. But again, it was intended to be light-hearted in nature. Ric indeed...thats how it was taken. :) -- daRmaTTeR Reg. Linux User #186492 Stupidity has no moral high ground...it can't see that high! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 2 TV questions
Background ATI TV wonder VE card =64(?) tuner type= 17 attached to cable TV Soundblaster Live sound card Program being used xawtv 3.58(?) First one is off topic, but maybe someone here knows. Is there a maximum length cable run before the TV signal gets degraded? The run from the junction inside the house to my Linux box is 125 ft (I do have a lot of slack so I could shorten this by 50 ft or more). I also have cables running to 2 televisions. Do these runs get included in the maximum allowable lenght? My picture is pretty good, but not great. In full screen it looks a bit grainy. In am running 1200x1000 (appx) in 16bit (I cant remember exactly since I am not at my linux box now) 2. Sound. Sound works, but it doesnt seem to be controlled by xawtv. I use the kmix to control the volume. The mute control in xawtv and the volume controls do nothing to sound levels. The problem is that when I quit the xawtv, the sound keeps playing! The only things I load in modules.conf is the card and the tuner. I dont have anything for tvmixer or tvaudio Thanks!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 TV questions
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, J Herzfeld wrote: Background ATI TV wonder VE card =64(?) tuner type= 17 attached to cable TV Soundblaster Live sound card Program being used xawtv 3.58(?) First one is off topic, but maybe someone here knows. Is there a maximum length cable run before the TV signal gets degraded? The run from the junction inside the house to my Linux box is 125 ft (I do have a lot of slack so I could shorten this by 50 ft or more). I also have cables running to 2 televisions. Do these runs get included in the maximum allowable lenght? My picture is pretty good, but not great. In full screen it looks a bit grainy. In am running 1200x1000 (appx) in 16bit (I cant remember exactly since I am not at my linux box now) I have the same cards (both TV Wonder VE and SB Live). The picture is definitely a problem with the card itself, because an All-In-Wonder 128 using the same cable looks perfect. I think I paid $19US after rebate for the card, so it wasn't a huge mistake. 2. Sound. Sound works, but it doesnt seem to be controlled by xawtv. I use the kmix to control the volume. The mute control in xawtv and the volume controls do nothing to sound levels. The problem is that when I quit the xawtv, the sound keeps playing! Try using the Line Level control instead of the volume control. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Bastille killed nfs! :-(
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 10:25 am, you wrote: LOL Sorry.. Been there, done that. I cut a server off at the knees doing things like that. The toughest lesson I had to learn when I first got into Unix many years ago: Screw the GUI, do it by hand. Then when something breaks, you know what it was, and how to fix it. vi/iptables is your friend. Don't trust your site security to a GUI, it's like trusting your 5 year old with a loaded 357. JMHO-YMMV -- Ric Tibbetts Unix Systems Admin. Hi Ric. Yep...I'm catching on. :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Autoloading a module
Hallo! I've bought a D-Link DWL-650 pcmcia wireless card that's recognized by MDK8.2 and wvlan_cs module is loaded automagically when the card is inserted. But as connection sometimes hangs and I have not been able to use it in ad-hoc mode (only in managed) I'd like to try orinoco and wavelan_cs modules but... What's the easiest way of changing the default module to be loaded when the card is inserted? Should I modify /etc/pcmcia/config ? I've already tryed the following: 1. Card is inserted, 2. ifconfig eth0 down is run, 3. wvlan_cs module is unloaded 4. orinoco (or wavelan_cs) modules are loaded... but then ifconfig eth0 up doesn't work. Help is appreciated. Thanks ;) -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain AOL quini2k, ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Autoloading a module
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Joan Tur wrote: Hallo! I've bought a D-Link DWL-650 pcmcia wireless card that's recognized by MDK8.2 and wvlan_cs module is loaded automagically when the card is inserted. But as connection sometimes hangs and I have not been able to use it in ad-hoc mode (only in managed) I'd like to try orinoco and wavelan_cs modules but... What's the easiest way of changing the default module to be loaded when the card is inserted? Should I modify /etc/pcmcia/config ? I've already tryed the following: 1. Card is inserted, 2. ifconfig eth0 down is run, 3. wvlan_cs module is unloaded 4. orinoco (or wavelan_cs) modules are loaded... but then ifconfig eth0 up doesn't work. Help is appreciated. Thanks ;) Joan, I believe that would be taken care of in /etc/modules.conf. -- daRmaTTeR Reg. Linux User #186492 Stupidity has no moral high ground...it can't see that high! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Hey Civileme
Hey Civ, Just so you don't feel too bad about having to be job hunting again, I thought I might share this little tidbit of info with you. You are, no doubt, aware of Max Vision, and his recent travails. Well out check the following. The man is back (we hope)! Others on this list my also know of Mr. Vision, and if not, you might want to aquaint yourselves with one the founders in the NIDS area. --posted to the snort list by Shawn Moyer-- Someone in the Bay Area PLEASE hire Max! FYI, he got hosed, not that it matters to most people. I know this is a cross-post, but I think Max is well known to most of the readers of these lists, so I feel it's relevant. Before you pick up a rock, please check the walls of your house and verify they aren't glass. --shawn -Original Message- From: Max Vision [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 11:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: bay area security professional, $6.75/hr... Please read below! Greetings security employers: I have an unusual situation that I would like to describe to you, and in doing so I am asking that anyone who can immediately employ me in the San Fransisco Bay Area, please read this email and consider taking advantage of my availablity and temporarily low cost. I am... o a seasoned professional with extensive security skills and experience o a once convicted hacker (DOD, 1998) o local to the San Fransisco Bay Area, I live in Oakland o willing to work for mimimum wage (for the next two months) o eager to work 60 hour weeks; I don't mind nights/weekends/holidays My Skills I am considered by many to have expert level proficiency at both penetration testing and network intrusion detection. I am also skilled at vulnerability research, firewall configuration, unix system administation (solaris, linux, *bsd), web administration/development, security policy development, and I even do windows. My Conviction (why I am desperate) I am not proud of being convicted of a felony, but it is important that a potential employer know of my status. Apparently if you have FDIC insurance there is a clause stating that you cannot hire a convicted hacker on your projects. It is also because of my status that I am desperate for security-related or even internet-related work. The truth is, I am living in a federal halfway house transitioning out of prison back into society. I have to find local work to meet their requirements, and they haven't approved any telecommute offers I have had so far. The director of the facility told me that if I don't find a job in the next week or so he will send me back to prison (my sentence actually ends October 12th). Now, maybe he will be more compassionate and see that I have made extraordinary efforts to find a job, but either way I really need work right now. I have been showing up at places that farm out manual labor, 5:30am, and still haven't found any work. My situation is just ridiculous. My Location I deeply appreciate the offers I have had for telecommute work, but unfortunately I need local employment for at least the next several months. I live in Oakland, but I can commute to anywhere that BART reaches. My Price I am willing to work for minimum wage for the next few months. Surely there is some open position at a security company in the area - hire me as a janitor but give me a cubicle and I'll do vulnerability research or help with security audits or have me sling html or whatever is useful to you, who will know? The last half dozen employers I have had paid me at least $100/hr for my time, now I am only asking for $6.75. If it came down to it, I would be willing to sign an agreement whereby I will repay all wages after a certain amount of time (I do need money like anyone else, but that is secondary to having a job - my very freedom depends on getting a job in the area). Seriously, this is your chance to get someone who really knows what they are doing, cheap. If you can put me to work immediately, please do. Sincerely, Max Vision 510.393.0189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://whitehats.com/ Resume Follows: Max Vision [security expert, problem solver] 205 Mac Arthur Blvd, Oakland CA 94610 Phone (510)393-0189, Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] OBJECTIVE I am currently looking for immediate full time work with a Bay Area company that could use a dedicated network security guru. ABOUT ME I am efficient, focused, and pay close attention to detail. I enjoy helping others, and at the same time am not afraid to ask questions. I live and breathe network security. SUMMARY OF QUALIFICATIONS My core expertise is in network penetration testing and intrusion detection; however I am also skilled in network and firewall configuration, Unix system administration, web administration, technical writing, and digital forensics. Architectures/Operating Systems: I have experience with most flavors of Unix,
Re: [expert] Bastille killed nfs! :-(
Tibbetts, Ric wrote: LOL Sorry.. Been there, done that. I cut a server off at the knees doing things like that. The toughest lesson I had to learn when I first got into Unix many years ago: Screw the GUI, do it by hand. Then when something breaks, you know what it was, and how to fix it. vi/iptables is your friend. Don't trust your site security to a GUI, it's like trusting your 5 year old with a loaded 357. JMHO-YMMV -- Ric Tibbetts Unix Systems Admin. f u cn rd ths u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn -Original Message- From: Ronald J. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:32 PM To: Mandrake Expert List Subject: [expert] Bastille killed nfs! :-( Well, I had nfs running perfectly, and then (sadly) I ran BastilleChooser. I picked lax and workstation. Now, I've no longer got nfs. I finally removed all Bastille RPMs thru the software manager, but I still have no nfs. Its installed, its checked under services. If I do a rpcinfo -p, I get this: [root@darkforce darklord]# rpcinfo -p program vers proto port 102 tcp111 portmapper 102 udp111 portmapper 1000241 udp 32768 status 1000241 tcp 32768 status 6001000691 udp797 fypxfrd 6001000691 tcp799 fypxfrd 3910022 tcp 32769 sgi_fam I can do a service nfs restart and directly run rpc.nfsd and then I get: [root@darkforce darklord]# rpcinfo -p program vers proto port 102 tcp111 portmapper 102 udp111 portmapper 1000241 udp 32768 status 1000241 tcp 32768 status 6001000691 udp797 fypxfrd 6001000691 tcp799 fypxfrd 3910022 tcp 32769 sgi_fam 151 udp 32770 mountd 151 tcp 32770 mountd 152 udp 32770 mountd 152 tcp 32770 mountd 153 udp 32770 mountd 153 tcp 32770 mountd 132 udp 2049 nfs 133 udp 2049 nfs 1000211 udp 32771 nlockmgr 1000213 udp 32771 nlockmgr 1000214 udp 32771 nlockmgr Now, nfs is up and running. Until I reboot. Then I have to go thru the same thing again. So my questions are: How to get nfs auto running at boot up again? How can a person use Bastille so that it doesn't kill nfs and your LAN? Thanks everyone... -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well in /etc/Bastille/bastille-firewall.cfg examine these lines TCP_LOCAL_SERVICES= You need to put in the ports you want to use locally there, separated by blanks with a colon between low and high for a range Also there is a trusted interface line for LOCAL which will be just lo or loopback change it to include the interface for the local net for portmap/nfs you need 109:111 but I usually trust the whole local net unless it is a workplace environment and use 15:65535 Bastille-Chooser of course makes very very conservative choices. But these guys are right--there is no substitute for knowledge when firewalling. And if you hand edit with one thing at a time (and no need to use vi--there are other editors, use what you are comfortable with but run it out of a su terminal) then the backup file left by the text editor is a traceback to what you had before you made a mistake--so each mistake becomes a learning experience. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Printing problem
I just installed ML 9.0B2 for a friend and he has this problem when printing with an Epson Colour 400 (I think that's the model): = (snip) Hi Jason. I have noticed when I print in ABI word or open office I get a get a thin horizonal line about 2mm accross the top of my page. Any suggestions. == Any ideas?? Regards, Jason Greenwood Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Preventing msec from changing file permissions
Chuck, thanks for the valuable advice! I created /etc/security/msec/perm.local with just one line: /home/PgDB postgres.postgres 700 and it seems to have done what I want (after running 'msec' of course). Thanks a bunch! Daniel, thanks for the links, I'll definitely check the info. Just wanted to get this working first :) Aleksey On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Chuck Shirley wrote: On Tuesday 13 August 2002 15:15, Aleksey Y Naumov wrote: Dear experts, I have I question/problem with msec on my 8.2 system: it keeps changing permissions on directory /home/PgDB. /var/log/auth.log has: ... Aug 13 15:01:00 ples msec: changed mode of /home/PgDB from 700 to 755 ... Trouble is, this is my data directory for PostgreSQL database, so it has to have permission 700, i.e.: drwx--6 postgres postgres 4096 Aug 13 14:56 PgDB/ It took me quite a while to figure this out myself. I haven't tried with a directory, but it works with individual files. Put the file, it's owner and group, and the permissions you want it to have in /etc/security/msec/perm.local, like so: # /etc/security/msec/perm.local # Local file permission settings to override msec. # [file][uid.gid] [perms] # /usr/bin/artswrapperroot.root 4755 (This example keeps msec from turning off suid on the artswrapper so that my artsd can run with NRT scheduling priority) Probably, the file is empty, at least it was on my system, so once I figured out the format, I created the header to keep me from having to go through all the headache again. Sadly, msec is not well documentd unless you can read perl really well! :^) -Chuck -- +-% He's a real UNIX Man $-+-+ \ Sitting in his UNIX LAN \ Charles A. Shirley \ \ Making all his UNIX plans \ cashirley (at) comcast (dot) net \ +--# For nobody --+-+ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] pppd can't connect - pptpd subsequently dies
Hello, I've followed the PopTop how-to for 2.4 kernels to a 't', yet I cannot establish a connection. Running Mandrake 8.2 with pppd 2.4.1 + Poptop 1.1.2 behind a Cisco 806 router with ports 1723 and 47 forwarding to the server. Here is a log of an attempted connection from Windows 2000 from behind a Linksys router with PPTP forwarding on (I manually forwarded the ports too, just to be sure). Aug 14 21:58:10 serve-on pptpd[21039]: CTRL: Client 24.141.11.74 control connection started Aug 14 21:58:10 serve-on pptpd[21039]: CTRL: Starting call (launching pppd, opening GRE) Aug 14 21:58:10 serve-on pppd[21040]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Aug 14 21:58:10 serve-on pppd[21040]: Using interface ppp0 Aug 14 21:58:10 serve-on pppd[21040]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/3 Aug 14 21:58:40 serve-on pppd[21040]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Aug 14 21:58:40 serve-on pppd[21040]: Connection terminated. Aug 14 21:58:40 serve-on pppd[21040]: Exit. Aug 14 21:58:40 serve-on pptpd[21039]: Error reading from pppd: Input/output error Aug 14 21:58:40 serve-on pptpd[21039]: CTRL: GRE read or PTY write failed (gre,pty)=(6,5) Aug 14 21:58:40 serve-on pptpd[21039]: CTRL: Client 24.141.11.74 control connection finished So it seems that pptpd dies because pppd never connects and times out. Here is my /etc/ppp/options file: debug lock noauth usepeerdns #-chap #-chapms #+chapms-v2 #mppe-128 #mppe-stateless I've had to comment out all the options above because pppd says it doesn't recognized them .. even though I patched the kernel, compiled the modules and inserted them as per the instructions. Any help would be fantastic! James Herschel JSquared Network Solutions (905)847-0799 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
