Re: [expert] Lilo with multiple hard drives...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, answers to questions: No, I wasnt using cable select. No, I wasnt changing any jumpers. This has nothing to do with fstab - that doesnt get processed at the lilo point. With all 3 drives in, I get a lilo prompt. With hdb removed I get LI LI LI LI... hdb is NOT mentioned in lilo.conf, so why does removing that drive affect lilo? Cheers. Mark. > On Friday 07 March 2003 09:33 pm, Gary Hodder wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > > > with the 3 drives in and it boots normally, edit the fstab file and > > change the hdc? to hdb? > > ? being the partition number. > > Change lilo to be hdb instead of hdc. > > Reboot with a floppy, at lilo promp: linux root=/dev/hdb? > > ? being the partition number the os is on. > > Run lilo. > > Reboot to boot from kernel on harddrive. > > > > Gary. > > and next time, don't use "cable select" as the way to choice master and > slave HDs, use the jumpers on the drive itself. > > > On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 22:19, Mark Watts wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a system with 3 harddrives in it (hda = Windows, hdb = spare > > > (part XFS, part FAT32) and hdc = Linux (resierfs). > > > I installed Windows first, followed by 9.0 on hdc, and chose to install > > > lilo to hda's boot sector. > > > This has been working just fine since I installed. > > > I've come to a point where I'm moving hdb out of the system... > > > Whenever I remove it, I get the ubiquitos LI LI LI LI LI across the > > > screen, indicating that lilo is toast. Putting the drive back makes > > > everything work as before. > > > > > > 2 questions: > > > > > > 1) Should lilo really be doing this, bearing in mind that hdb isnt > > > mentioned in lilo.conf (It has an old 8.2 install I havent removed yet > > > on it, but I'd have to make a boot disk to boot from it). > > > > > > 2) If I re-reun lilo (from a rescue cd and chrooting stuff) without > > > changing lilo.conf, will that fix the LI LI LI issue? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Mark. > > > > > > - -- > > > Mark Watts > > > Systems Engineer > > > QinetiQ TIM > > > St Andrews Road, Malvern > > > GPG Public Key available on request. > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > iD8DBQE+aIA5Bn4EFUVUIO0RAhuvAKCzIzCZDqFlr6+RWzdSEmrpglnB8QCgxetA > > > gfpHOl0qRleNXs2VLEiSQcY= > > > =wfFV > > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com - -- Mark Watts Systems Engineer QinetiQ TIM St Andrews Road, Malvern GPG Public Key available on request. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+bGpLBn4EFUVUIO0RAkDeAJ0WLGqDCacQRyYIE0O2qNY5kCZ6BgCeNPsc S+knuDCAmZocwoLKJ8l15tU= =11Y0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] anyone know of a good hardware diagnostics tool for linux?
On Monday 10 March 2003 12:23 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Sunday 09 March 2003 09:05 pm, David E. Fox wrote: > > >Unless you're sure your case and cpu cooling is adequate, take the > > > diag's in the above order. Otherwise go right to cpuburn. The acid > > > test for cpu/cache/ram/PSU/motherboards. > > > > Someone also mentioned recompiling the kernel - using many > > gcc forks (make -j 100) as a good test for the system. > > > > Obviously you have to have enough RAM for that many simultaneous > > compiles, but it might be a good way to test the entirety of the > > emmory / cpu / bus environment. The others are good as well, but > > with the exception of memtest, they won't use a large enough portion > > of the RAM. For instance, cpuburn runs a *very* tight loop - it would > > easily fit in the CPU's primary cache. mprime does a little better - > > maybe 13-20 megs of RAM involved here. Eitehr way, if there's a RAM > > problem, cpuburn or mprime may never pick it up. The real difficulty > > is if there is a RAM problem, there's likely no way to tell where it > > is. But then the recourse is to just replace the module anyhow :). > > Reframing the original question: Are there any Linux programs for > diagnosing problems with hardware subsystems? With the exception of > memtest, it strikes me that everything mentioned to date in this thread is > some form of stress test. While stress testing is useful to establish that > the whole system is either OK or NFG, there are times when a more specific > diagnostic is required. I'm thinking about something similar to the old > CheckIt or PC Tools that I used back in the days of MSDOS 3.31. Or have > these critters become so complex that it now takes a lab full of equipment > to get any meaningful results? > -- cmg checkIt and PCtools were only about as good as (imho) lspcidrake and fell short of hadrdrake Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] anyone know of a good hardware diagnostics tool for linux?
On Monday 10 March 2003 06:33 am, et wrote: > On Monday 10 March 2003 12:23 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > On Sunday 09 March 2003 09:05 pm, David E. Fox wrote: > > > >Unless you're sure your case and cpu cooling is adequate, take the > > > > diag's in the above order. Otherwise go right to cpuburn. The acid > > > > test for cpu/cache/ram/PSU/motherboards. > > > > > > Someone also mentioned recompiling the kernel - using many > > > gcc forks (make -j 100) as a good test for the system. > > > > > > Obviously you have to have enough RAM for that many simultaneous > > > compiles, but it might be a good way to test the entirety of the > > > emmory / cpu / bus environment. The others are good as well, but > > > with the exception of memtest, they won't use a large enough portion > > > of the RAM. For instance, cpuburn runs a *very* tight loop - it would > > > easily fit in the CPU's primary cache. mprime does a little better - > > > maybe 13-20 megs of RAM involved here. Eitehr way, if there's a RAM > > > problem, cpuburn or mprime may never pick it up. The real difficulty > > > is if there is a RAM problem, there's likely no way to tell where it > > > is. But then the recourse is to just replace the module anyhow :). > > > > Reframing the original question: Are there any Linux programs for > > diagnosing problems with hardware subsystems? With the exception of > > memtest, it strikes me that everything mentioned to date in this thread > > is some form of stress test. While stress testing is useful to establish > > that the whole system is either OK or NFG, there are times when a more > > specific diagnostic is required. I'm thinking about something similar to > > the old CheckIt or PC Tools that I used back in the days of MSDOS 3.31. > > Or have these critters become so complex that it now takes a lab full of > > equipment to get any meaningful results? > > -- cmg > > checkIt and PCtools were only about as good as (imho) lspcidrake and fell > short of hadrdrake and I think CMG is suffering from what Paul Simon called the "kodachrome" effect Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
On Monday 10 March 2003 07:17 am, Mark Weaver wrote: > Hi list, > > I noticed this yesterday after receiving an error message from Mozilla that > it couldn't send a message. So far I've been all over the filesystem every > way I know how, but still can't find a reason for this condition. > > So far I've phyiscally examined the filesystem with mc and du to see if I > could find an extra large file somewhere, but nothing is popping out. The > only thing on the "/" filesystem is everything but /var and /usr. I'm > suspicious of the manner in which /mnt may be affecting the root > filesystem. > > Any ideas? > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda1 718M 674M 7.6M 99% / > none 62M 0 61M 0% /dev/shm > /dev/hda10618M 308M 310M 50% /home > /dev/hdc1 643M 611M 0 100% /mnt/arc > /dev/hda113.5G 2.1G 1.2G 61% /mnt/arc_2 > /dev/hda6 1.4G 1.4G 26M 99% /usr > /dev/hda7 934M 538M 349M 61% /var > /dev/hda9 3.9G 906M 2.8G 24% /var/ftp > /dev/hda8 1.1G 179M 869M 18% /var/www bud,,, each entry in /mnt takes about 4 bytes in the "/" filespace so I would bet that ai'nt it tried deleting (or cleaning) /tmp on boot? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
Mark Weaver wrote: I noticed this yesterday after receiving an error message from Mozilla that it moz needs some room in '/' and did not find minimum. from your 'df' return, you are low in both '/' and '/usr'. you need to do some drastic changes for '/' and '/usr', especially if you want to expand. unless you have a large spare drive, you may need to rebuild 'hda'. what distribution?? what backup media do you have?? there are several ways you could avoid a reinstall, but before any suggestions, how about a look at fstab, and what drives actually are? -- peace out. tc,hago. g . =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". =+= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
On Monday 10 March 2003 03:17 am, Mark Weaver wrote: > Hi list, > > I noticed this yesterday after receiving an error message from Mozilla that > it couldn't send a message. So far I've been all over the filesystem every > way I know how, but still can't find a reason for this condition. > > So far I've phyiscally examined the filesystem with mc and du to see if I > could find an extra large file somewhere, but nothing is popping out. The > only thing on the "/" filesystem is everything but /var and /usr. I'm > suspicious of the manner in which /mnt may be affecting the root > filesystem. > > Any ideas? > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda1 718M 674M 7.6M 99% / > none 62M 0 61M 0% /dev/shm > /dev/hda10618M 308M 310M 50% /home > /dev/hdc1 643M 611M 0 100% /mnt/arc > /dev/hda113.5G 2.1G 1.2G 61% /mnt/arc_2 > /dev/hda6 1.4G 1.4G 26M 99% /usr > /dev/hda7 934M 538M 349M 61% /var > /dev/hda9 3.9G 906M 2.8G 24% /var/ftp > /dev/hda8 1.1G 179M 869M 18% /var/www try this open a terminal su to root # mkdir -p /var/www/maxis # rm -r /tmp -f # ln -d /var/www/maxis /tmp mozilla uses /tmp for many things, including reassembling packets from a download into a file before moving the file to its final destination. /tmp is in / in your system ... After this little setting, you should be good to go even for downloading an .iso file. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
On Monday 10 March 2003 07:54 am, civileme wrote: > On Monday 10 March 2003 03:17 am, Mark Weaver wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > I noticed this yesterday after receiving an error message from Mozilla > > that it couldn't send a message. So far I've been all over the filesystem > > every way I know how, but still can't find a reason for this condition. > > > > So far I've phyiscally examined the filesystem with mc and du to see if I > > could find an extra large file somewhere, but nothing is popping out. The > > only thing on the "/" filesystem is everything but /var and /usr. I'm > > suspicious of the manner in which /mnt may be affecting the root > > filesystem. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/hda1 718M 674M 7.6M 99% / > > none 62M 0 61M 0% /dev/shm > > /dev/hda10618M 308M 310M 50% /home > > /dev/hdc1 643M 611M 0 100% /mnt/arc > > /dev/hda113.5G 2.1G 1.2G 61% /mnt/arc_2 > > /dev/hda6 1.4G 1.4G 26M 99% /usr > > /dev/hda7 934M 538M 349M 61% /var > > /dev/hda9 3.9G 906M 2.8G 24% /var/ftp > > /dev/hda8 1.1G 179M 869M 18% /var/www > > try this > > open a terminal > su to root > > # mkdir -p /var/www/maxis > # rm -r /tmp -f > # ln -d /var/www/maxis /tmp > > mozilla uses /tmp for many things, including reassembling packets from a > download into a file before moving the file to its final destination. /tmp > is in / in your system ... After this little setting, you should be good > to go even for downloading an .iso file. > > Civileme Check the size of /var/log. It could be your log files are filling root. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
On Monday 10 March 2003 08:02 am, Brian wrote: > On Monday 10 March 2003 07:54 am, civileme wrote: > > On Monday 10 March 2003 03:17 am, Mark Weaver wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > > > I noticed this yesterday after receiving an error message from Mozilla > > > that it couldn't send a message. So far I've been all over the > > > filesystem every way I know how, but still can't find a reason for this > > > condition. > > > > > > So far I've phyiscally examined the filesystem with mc and du to see if > > > I could find an extra large file somewhere, but nothing is popping out. > > > The only thing on the "/" filesystem is everything but /var and /usr. > > > I'm suspicious of the manner in which /mnt may be affecting the root > > > filesystem. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > > /dev/hda1 718M 674M 7.6M 99% / > > > none 62M 0 61M 0% /dev/shm > > > /dev/hda10618M 308M 310M 50% /home > > > /dev/hdc1 643M 611M 0 100% /mnt/arc > > > /dev/hda113.5G 2.1G 1.2G 61% /mnt/arc_2 > > > /dev/hda6 1.4G 1.4G 26M 99% /usr > > > /dev/hda7 934M 538M 349M 61% /var > > > /dev/hda9 3.9G 906M 2.8G 24% /var/ftp > > > /dev/hda8 1.1G 179M 869M 18% /var/www > > > > try this > > > > open a terminal > > su to root > > > > # mkdir -p /var/www/maxis > > # rm -r /tmp -f > > # ln -d /var/www/maxis /tmp > > > > mozilla uses /tmp for many things, including reassembling packets from a > > download into a file before moving the file to its final destination. > > /tmp is in / in your system ... After this little setting, you should be > > good to go even for downloading an .iso file. > > > > Civileme > > Check the size of /var/log. It could be your log files are filling root. > > Brian eeehhh... Brian, he noted that ""/" filesystem is everything but /var and /usr" so /var is not part of the / partition, and so not that part of the problem Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
On Monday 10 March 2003 08:10 am, et wrote: > On Monday 10 March 2003 08:02 am, Brian wrote: > > On Monday 10 March 2003 07:54 am, civileme wrote: > > > On Monday 10 March 2003 03:17 am, Mark Weaver wrote: > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > > > I noticed this yesterday after receiving an error message from > > > > Mozilla that it couldn't send a message. So far I've been all over > > > > the filesystem every way I know how, but still can't find a reason > > > > for this condition. > > > > > > > > So far I've phyiscally examined the filesystem with mc and du to see > > > > if I could find an extra large file somewhere, but nothing is popping > > > > out. The only thing on the "/" filesystem is everything but /var and > > > > /usr. I'm suspicious of the manner in which /mnt may be affecting the > > > > root filesystem. > > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > > > /dev/hda1 718M 674M 7.6M 99% / > > > > none 62M 0 61M 0% /dev/shm > > > > /dev/hda10618M 308M 310M 50% /home > > > > /dev/hdc1 643M 611M 0 100% /mnt/arc > > > > /dev/hda113.5G 2.1G 1.2G 61% /mnt/arc_2 > > > > /dev/hda6 1.4G 1.4G 26M 99% /usr > > > > /dev/hda7 934M 538M 349M 61% /var > > > > /dev/hda9 3.9G 906M 2.8G 24% /var/ftp > > > > /dev/hda8 1.1G 179M 869M 18% /var/www > > > > > > try this > > > > > > open a terminal > > > su to root > > > > > > # mkdir -p /var/www/maxis > > > # rm -r /tmp -f > > > # ln -d /var/www/maxis /tmp > > > > > > mozilla uses /tmp for many things, including reassembling packets from > > > a download into a file before moving the file to its final destination. > > > /tmp is in / in your system ... After this little setting, you should > > > be good to go even for downloading an .iso file. > > > > > > Civileme > > > > Check the size of /var/log. It could be your log files are filling root. > > > > Brian > > eeehhh... Brian, he noted that ""/" filesystem is everything but /var and > /usr" so /var is not part of the / partition, and so not that part of the > problem mille pardones, it's 8:00 AM here in NY and hadn't had my 3rd cup of coffee yet. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /tmp size (OT for all except Jack)
On Monday 10 March 2003 12:33 am, J. Craig Woods wrote: > Jack, fix up that signature. As one a bit older than most here, I must > say that I enjoyed the hell out of "Sea Hunt" in my younger years. In > deference to the late Lloyd Bridges (ya, Beau and Jeff's dad), it was > not Nielson that recited your quote. It was Lloyd Bridges... > > drjung Heh. Looks like he picked the wrong day to be recalling famous movie lines.. :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
So far I've phyiscally examined the filesystem with mc and du to see if I could find an extra large file somewhere, but nothing is popping out. The only thing on the "/" filesystem is everything but /var and /usr. I'm suspicious of the manner in which /mnt may be affecting the root filesystem. Any ideas? FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 718M 674M 7.6M 99% / none 62M 0 61M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda10618M 308M 310M 50% /home /dev/hdc1 643M 611M 0 100% /mnt/arc /dev/hda113.5G 2.1G 1.2G 61% /mnt/arc_2 /dev/hda6 1.4G 1.4G 26M 99% /usr /dev/hda7 934M 538M 349M 61% /var /dev/hda9 3.9G 906M 2.8G 24% /var/ftp /dev/hda8 1.1G 179M 869M 18% /var/www Is your /usr and /var directory defined at installation ? if not you can clean them on root partition. umount all except /dev/hda1 check and clean all root hidden files by a mount. Best regards Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Lilo with multiple hard drives...
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:34:50 + Mark Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Ok, answers to questions: > > No, I wasnt using cable select. > > No, I wasnt changing any jumpers. > > This has nothing to do with fstab - that doesnt get processed at the > lilo point. > > > With all 3 drives in, I get a lilo prompt. > > With hdb removed I get LI LI LI LI... > > hdb is NOT mentioned in lilo.conf, so why does removing that drive > affect lilo? If you have more than one bootable system, depending on the mount points, location of bootable images, etc, lilo may be correctly configured for one OS; but wrong for another... before removing the drive, boot up every system, and check their lilo configs based on how the system is configured for EACH... it can really test your sanity in some setups... it'll help to draw a map showing how everything points to what... while drawing the map, remember: it's a sanity test you may be quite surprised to find where the entries point to... Good luck! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix configuration ?
Am Donnerstag, 6. März 2003 16:11 schrieb Carter Harris: > I installed postfix during the installation of my 8.2 mandrake os. The > postfix version is 20020228, I think. I am trying to setup postfix > using the "Postfix+Courier-IMAP+MySQL documentation but I'm getting the > following error message: > > Mar 6 08:56:55 linuxserver postfix/qmgr[15746]: fatal: unsupported > dictionary type: mysql > Mar 6 08:57:00 linuxserver postfix/tlsmgr[15747]: fatal: unsupported > dictionary type: mysql > Mar 6 08:57:39 linuxserver postfix/smtpd[15810]: fatal: unsupported > dictionary type: mysql > Mar 6 08:57:45 linuxserver postfix/pickup[15812]: fatal: unsupported > dictionary type: mysql > > I looked on google and found a couple of references to email archives > for another distro that indicated that postfix was not compiled with the > correct modules and thus generated this message. > > Can anyone tell me what modules are included in the standard mandrake > compile of postfix or how to see what modules were included? I know in > apache I can -l and get a list but that according to the man pages > postfix doesn't support something similar. > > Thanks for a reply. > > Carter AFAIK, mdk does not link postfix to mysql by default. So use the SRPMS and change the spec file to your needs. Martin -- H E L I X Gesellschaft für Software & Engineering mbH Hanauer Landstrasse 52 Telefon (069) 4789 35-30 60314 Frankfurt am Main Telefax (069) 4789 35-44 http://www.helix-gmbh.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [expert] Lilo with multiple hard drives...
On Monday 10 March 2003 05:34 am, Mark Watts wrote: > Ok, answers to questions: > > No, I wasnt using cable select. > > No, I wasnt changing any jumpers. > > This has nothing to do with fstab - that doesnt get processed at the lilo > point. > > > With all 3 drives in, I get a lilo prompt. > > With hdb removed I get LI LI LI LI... > > hdb is NOT mentioned in lilo.conf, so why does removing that drive affect > lilo? > > Cheers. > This discussion is a perfect example of why I use GrUB. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
On Monday 10 March 2003 13:17, Mark Weaver wrote: > Hi list, > > I noticed this yesterday after receiving an error message from Mozilla that > it couldn't send a message. So far I've been all over the filesystem every > way I know how, but still can't find a reason for this condition. > > So far I've phyiscally examined the filesystem with mc and du to see if I > could find an extra large file somewhere, but nothing is popping out. The > only thing on the "/" filesystem is everything but /var and /usr. I'm > suspicious of the manner in which /mnt may be affecting the root > filesystem. > > Any ideas? > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda1 718M 674M 7.6M 99% / > none 62M 0 61M 0% /dev/shm > /dev/hda10618M 308M 310M 50% /home > /dev/hdc1 643M 611M 0 100% /mnt/arc > /dev/hda113.5G 2.1G 1.2G 61% /mnt/arc_2 > /dev/hda6 1.4G 1.4G 26M 99% /usr > /dev/hda7 934M 538M 349M 61% /var > /dev/hda9 3.9G 906M 2.8G 24% /var/ftp > /dev/hda8 1.1G 179M 869M 18% /var/www Just some ideas: 1) du -xsh /*Summary of the size of all dirs that are on "/"-partition serach the biggest dir and then go to that dir and do the same. 2) unmount all in /mnt/ and look there if something is written and hidden after mount. (the same could be for /usr/ and /var/ but that would be very unlikely. -- Regards Steffen counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 87 Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kde screensaver problem
James Sparenberg wrote: On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 10:56, Dave Laird wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good morning, David... On Sunday 09 March 2003 10:23 am, David Relson wrote: I discovered kdeartwork a while after posting my query. It is now loaded and I see a reasonable list of choices. However, when it's time for the screen saver to kick it all that happens is that the screen goes black. The screen returns to normal when I use the keyboard. Perhaps the issue is the "Random" screen saver, which is what I like to use. (Gnome has such a great selection of different screen savers). Using google, I found some mentions of non-working KDE screensavers. Is that still true? Are the ones for gnome compatible with kde? It sounds suspiciously as if you still have Power Control turned on. If you want to see the screen saver, in some cases, you must first make sure you have that unchecked, because *it* will blank the screen, before the screen saver kicks in, in some cases. Of course, your results may vary. 8-) If Dave and Greg are right and they may well be try this go to the screensaver page in kcontrol... they hit the test button... if the screensaver works there then it could well be power saver. If not... it may be selecting the Blank Screen screensaver. James It still should work!! Try to setup a smaller time for the screensaver to pop up than the time you setup for power saving to begin. This will answer your question whether this or that which starts first. David, you also can select various screensavers and may be run them randomly (I didn't experience that) by using "xscreensaver". The "Random" screensaver you have originally in kcontrol is nothing but a black screen which of course isn't power saving. Mohand Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
On Monday 10 March 2003 10:48 am, Mark Weaver wrote: > et wrote: > > On Monday 10 March 2003 07:17 am, Mark Weaver wrote: > >>Hi list, > >> > >>I noticed this yesterday after receiving an error message from Mozilla > >> that it couldn't send a message. So far I've been all over the > >> filesystem every way I know how, but still can't find a reason for this > >> condition. > >> > >>So far I've phyiscally examined the filesystem with mc and du to see if I > >>could find an extra large file somewhere, but nothing is popping out. The > >>only thing on the "/" filesystem is everything but /var and /usr. I'm > >>suspicious of the manner in which /mnt may be affecting the root > >>filesystem. > >> > >>Any ideas? > >> > >>FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > >>/dev/hda1 718M 674M 7.6M 99% / > >>none 62M 0 61M 0% /dev/shm > >>/dev/hda10618M 308M 310M 50% /home > >>/dev/hdc1 643M 611M 0 100% /mnt/arc > >>/dev/hda113.5G 2.1G 1.2G 61% /mnt/arc_2 > >>/dev/hda6 1.4G 1.4G 26M 99% /usr > >>/dev/hda7 934M 538M 349M 61% /var > >>/dev/hda9 3.9G 906M 2.8G 24% /var/ftp > >>/dev/hda8 1.1G 179M 869M 18% /var/www > > > > bud,,, each entry in /mnt takes about 4 bytes in the "/" filespace so I > > would bet that ai'nt it tried deleting (or cleaning) /tmp on boot? > > Ha! My suspicions were correct. It "was" a problem with one if the > dir's in /mnt. Following Stephens' suggestion I umounted everything > mounted under /mnt and then ran the "du" command. /mnt showed up as > weighing in at 609M. Just a few more bytes then 4, eh? > > So, liberally wacking the contents of that directory, (which happened to > be part of my mp3 collection) the weight if "/" is now back down to 10% > or 66M. > > The quesiton now is "why" was just /mnt/mp3 effecting "/" and not > /mnt/arc (which is 650M and at 100%) or /mnt/arc_2 which is currently > at 61% (2.1GB)? > > By they way...thanks to all that responded. Your comments and > suggestions helped me to elliminate possible causes and focus in the > direction of the real culprit. > > A little background info: > > the dir's /mnt/arc, /mnt/arc_2, and /mnt/mp3 are shared over nfs and > samba. while I don't have any trouble RW to ?mnt/arc, /mnt/arc_2 there > were some problems with /mnt/mp3. It would only allow R access to the > filesystem. Until yesterday when I shut down nfs and samba, umounted > /mnt/mp3 and then chown'd /mnt/mp3 to user.root, and then chmod'd it to > 777. Once that was done I was able to write to that partition from the > client machines over nfs and samba, but I suspect that it was at that > time when "/" began to be 100% full. > > whats up with that? Sounds like you started copying files before you remounted whatever the partition is that you mount on /mnt/mp3. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
On Monday 10 March 2003 04:02 am, Brian wrote: > On Monday 10 March 2003 07:54 am, civileme wrote: > > On Monday 10 March 2003 03:17 am, Mark Weaver wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > > > I noticed this yesterday after receiving an error message from Mozilla > > > that it couldn't send a message. So far I've been all over the > > > filesystem every way I know how, but still can't find a reason for this > > > condition. > > > > > > So far I've phyiscally examined the filesystem with mc and du to see if > > > I could find an extra large file somewhere, but nothing is popping out. > > > The only thing on the "/" filesystem is everything but /var and /usr. > > > I'm suspicious of the manner in which /mnt may be affecting the root > > > filesystem. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > > /dev/hda1 718M 674M 7.6M 99% / > > > none 62M 0 61M 0% /dev/shm > > > /dev/hda10618M 308M 310M 50% /home > > > /dev/hdc1 643M 611M 0 100% /mnt/arc > > > /dev/hda113.5G 2.1G 1.2G 61% /mnt/arc_2 > > > /dev/hda6 1.4G 1.4G 26M 99% /usr > > > /dev/hda7 934M 538M 349M 61% /var > > > /dev/hda9 3.9G 906M 2.8G 24% /var/ftp > > > /dev/hda8 1.1G 179M 869M 18% /var/www > > > > try this > > > > open a terminal > > su to root > > > > # mkdir -p /var/www/maxis > > # rm -r /tmp -f > > # ln -d /var/www/maxis /tmp > > > > mozilla uses /tmp for many things, including reassembling packets from a > > download into a file before moving the file to its final destination. > > /tmp is in / in your system ... After this little setting, you should be > > good to go even for downloading an .iso file. > > > > Civileme > > Check the size of /var/log. It could be your log files are filling root. > > Brian E /var/log would be found in /var which seems to have plenty of room... Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
On Monday 10 March 2003 06:48 am, Mark Weaver wrote: > et wrote: > > On Monday 10 March 2003 07:17 am, Mark Weaver wrote: > >>Hi list, > >> > >>I noticed this yesterday after receiving an error message from Mozilla > >> that it couldn't send a message. So far I've been all over the > >> filesystem every way I know how, but still can't find a reason for this > >> condition. > >> > >>So far I've phyiscally examined the filesystem with mc and du to see if I > >>could find an extra large file somewhere, but nothing is popping out. The > >>only thing on the "/" filesystem is everything but /var and /usr. I'm > >>suspicious of the manner in which /mnt may be affecting the root > >>filesystem. > >> > >>Any ideas? > >> > >>FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > >>/dev/hda1 718M 674M 7.6M 99% / > >>none 62M 0 61M 0% /dev/shm > >>/dev/hda10618M 308M 310M 50% /home > >>/dev/hdc1 643M 611M 0 100% /mnt/arc > >>/dev/hda113.5G 2.1G 1.2G 61% /mnt/arc_2 > >>/dev/hda6 1.4G 1.4G 26M 99% /usr > >>/dev/hda7 934M 538M 349M 61% /var > >>/dev/hda9 3.9G 906M 2.8G 24% /var/ftp > >>/dev/hda8 1.1G 179M 869M 18% /var/www > > > > bud,,, each entry in /mnt takes about 4 bytes in the "/" filespace so I > > would bet that ai'nt it tried deleting (or cleaning) /tmp on boot? > > Ha! My suspicions were correct. It "was" a problem with one if the > dir's in /mnt. Following Stephens' suggestion I umounted everything > mounted under /mnt and then ran the "du" command. /mnt showed up as > weighing in at 609M. Just a few more bytes then 4, eh? > > So, liberally wacking the contents of that directory, (which happened to > be part of my mp3 collection) the weight if "/" is now back down to 10% > or 66M. > > The quesiton now is "why" was just /mnt/mp3 effecting "/" and not > /mnt/arc (which is 650M and at 100%) or /mnt/arc_2 which is currently > at 61% (2.1GB)? > > By they way...thanks to all that responded. Your comments and > suggestions helped me to elliminate possible causes and focus in the > direction of the real culprit. > > A little background info: > > the dir's /mnt/arc, /mnt/arc_2, and /mnt/mp3 are shared over nfs and > samba. while I don't have any trouble RW to ?mnt/arc, /mnt/arc_2 there > were some problems with /mnt/mp3. It would only allow R access to the > filesystem. Until yesterday when I shut down nfs and samba, umounted > /mnt/mp3 and then chown'd /mnt/mp3 to user.root, and then chmod'd it to > 777. Once that was done I was able to write to that partition from the > client machines over nfs and samba, but I suspect that it was at that > time when "/" began to be 100% full. > > whats up with that? You had /mnt/mp3 created locally instead of mounted remotely--when the remote mount is in place, it will overtake the local, but when it is not you will have a valid local directory (since it is defined as a directory to be a mount point. You therefore did not have the remote mount working when you wrote to /mnt/mp3. Usually ro write to a remote nfs system when writes are blocked you have to check permissions on BOTH machines, and define a way for a write to happen... Check the remote mount through remote linuxconf or webmin. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
civileme said: > On Monday 10 March 2003 04:02 am, Brian wrote: >> On Monday 10 March 2003 07:54 am, civileme wrote: >> > On Monday 10 March 2003 03:17 am, Mark Weaver wrote: >> > > Hi list, >> > > >> > > I noticed this yesterday after receiving an error message from >> Mozilla >> > > that it couldn't send a message. So far I've been all over the >> > > filesystem every way I know how, but still can't find a reason for >> this >> > > condition. >> > > >> > > So far I've phyiscally examined the filesystem with mc and du to see >> if >> > > I could find an extra large file somewhere, but nothing is popping >> out. >> > > The only thing on the "/" filesystem is everything but /var and >> /usr. >> > > I'm suspicious of the manner in which /mnt may be affecting the root >> > > filesystem. >> > > >> > > Any ideas? >> > > >> > > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on >> > > /dev/hda1 718M 674M 7.6M 99% / >> > > none 62M 0 61M 0% /dev/shm >> > > /dev/hda10618M 308M 310M 50% /home >> > > /dev/hdc1 643M 611M 0 100% /mnt/arc >> > > /dev/hda113.5G 2.1G 1.2G 61% /mnt/arc_2 >> > > /dev/hda6 1.4G 1.4G 26M 99% /usr >> > > /dev/hda7 934M 538M 349M 61% /var >> > > /dev/hda9 3.9G 906M 2.8G 24% /var/ftp >> > > /dev/hda8 1.1G 179M 869M 18% /var/www >> > >> > try this >> > >> > open a terminal >> > su to root >> > >> > # mkdir -p /var/www/maxis >> > # rm -r /tmp -f >> > # ln -d /var/www/maxis /tmp >> > >> > mozilla uses /tmp for many things, including reassembling packets from >> a >> > download into a file before moving the file to its final destination. >> > /tmp is in / in your system ... After this little setting, you should >> be >> > good to go even for downloading an .iso file. >> > Just jumping into the thread, but have your tried the following: # cd /etc # du|sort -n # cd /tmp # du|sort -n # cd /root # du|sort -n # cd /opt # du|sort -n -- Live fast, die young, You're sucking up my bandwidth. J.P. Pasnak, CD CCNA http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
* Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030310 10:06]: > A little background info: > > the dir's /mnt/arc, /mnt/arc_2, and /mnt/mp3 are shared over nfs and > samba. while I don't have any trouble RW to ?mnt/arc, /mnt/arc_2 there > were some problems with /mnt/mp3. It would only allow R access to the > filesystem. Until yesterday when I shut down nfs and samba, umounted > /mnt/mp3 and then chown'd /mnt/mp3 to user.root, and then chmod'd it to > 777. Once that was done I was able to write to that partition from the > client machines over nfs and samba, but I suspect that it was at that > time when "/" began to be 100% full. > > whats up with that? A little more explanation may help. It is important to note that unless something is mounted on them, the typical directories under /mnt are just plain directories, usually empty. When you mount something there, if anything was IN those directories, it will be temporarily inaccessible, replaced in the tree by whatever you mounted there. When you unmount them, the original contents show up again. It, of course, takes space in the real directory, and /mnt is not usually on its own partition, so it is part of root, or /. When you DO find some actual files in /mnt, it is usually because someone copied something there, thinking they were copying to a removable block device, like a floppy or other storage device. -- Jan Wilson, SysAdmin _/*]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Corozal Junior College | |:' corozal.com corozal.bz Corozal Town, Belize | /' chetumal.com & linux.bz Reg. Linux user #151611 |_/ Network, PHP, Perl, HTML Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Whats wrong with Linuxconf?
I've got two different Mandrake 9.0 boxes and linuxconf segfaults on both. Any ideas? Are there some issues in regards to linuxconf/Mdk 9.0 I should know about? Jim C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] OT Windows 2003
A friend of mine saw somebody speaking about Winblows 2003 and the presenter said specifically that it was going to be "the" new server OS, putting Linux in the dust. I told him that regardless of technology, the expense and licensing associated with W2003 would prevent it from beating Linux. Anybody else heard this anti-Linux W2003 bull? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Slow FTP and POP3
I have a 8.2 machine co-hosted in a remote state from me. When I connect via the Web, SSH, or SMTP, it's fast. When I connect via POP3 I have to wait about 25 seconds, and for FTP I have to wait about 10 seconds. This has been the case for many months. There was a period of, perhaps a week when everything was fast. But then it reverted back to "some fast, some slow". It didn't make sense that it was my box, so I did a traceroute and found a couple of places where things always slow down--all on UUNet, the network on which my box is hosted. I called them for help, but they wouldn't look into it because I'm not a direct customer. I then had my ISP call, and they were told that as long as the connection _works_ we don't give a damn how long we have to wait. My ISP said that if more people brought it to their attention that they might look into it. Of course I have no idea of _really_ knowing whether others have called about this. So I dunno. Any ideas? I'm really sick of waiting a half-minute to connect to my POP server. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT Windows 2003
On Sunday 09 March 2003 02:33 pm, Miark wrote: > A friend of mine saw somebody speaking about Winblows 2003 and the > presenter said specifically that it was going to be "the" new server OS, > putting Linux in the dust. > > I told him that regardless of technology, the expense and licensing > associated with W2003 would prevent it from beating Linux. > > Anybody else heard this anti-Linux W2003 bull? > > Miark the only thing new about this pile of fud, (and it ain't how high it's piled) is the name 2003... I thought we were going to have .net and rental of software, and that was that... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow FTP and POP3
It's me, O, Lord :-) I Googled the situation and found the answer: ident lookups. I have no idea what they are (right now) but I know that both POP and FTP were using and timing out on them. So I disabled them, and whamo--everything is fast again! Thank you, self. You're very welcome, self! Miark Roses are red, violets are blue; I'm schizophrenic and so am I. On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:25:51 -0500 Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a 8.2 machine co-hosted in a remote state from me. When I connect > via the Web, SSH, or SMTP, it's fast. When I connect via POP3 I have to > wait about 25 seconds, and for FTP I have to wait about 10 seconds. This > has been the case for many months. There was a period of, perhaps a week > when everything was fast. But then it reverted back to "some fast, some > slow". > > It didn't make sense that it was my box, so I did a traceroute and found a > couple of places where things always slow down--all on UUNet, the network > on which my box is hosted. I called them for help, but they wouldn't look > into it because I'm not a direct customer. I then had my ISP call, and they > were told that as long as the connection _works_ we don't give a damn how > long we have to wait. > > My ISP said that if more people brought it to their attention that they > might look into it. Of course I have no idea of _really_ knowing whether > others have called about this. > > So I dunno. Any ideas? I'm really sick of waiting a half-minute to connect > to my POP server. > > Miark > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow FTP and POP3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miark wrote on Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 04:58:56PM -0500 : > > I Googled the situation and found the answer: ident lookups. I have no idea Congratulations on your steps to becoming self-proficient and self-reliant. It's an empowering step to take. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Easy things should be easy, and hard things should be possible. --Larry Wall Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21-0.12mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+bQxolp7v05cW2woRAlePAKCx9saBRNoXP3wm4sLfDWzoBmmSQACgnTv7 zQCzlUdYhuJSklIuEBf4hi8= =pBiU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On Monday 10 Mar 2003 5:19 am, Todd Lyons wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > You guys are all missing the point. It's not cookies. This is the > form caching that web browsers do BEFORE she clicks the login button. > > Konqueror->Settings->ConfigureKonqueror->KonquerorBrowser. Uncheck the > "Enable completion of forms" setting or lower the number to 1, login, > and then log back out. That should clear it to only the last one you > used and then you can raise it back up to the default 10. > This is, in fact, the solution that Adolfo gave me - and it works. Thanks for everyone's efforts. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Lilo conf lines
On Sunday 09 Mar 2003 1:18 pm, g wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Sunday 09 Mar 2003 11:59 am, Joerg Mertin wrote: > >>this is actually a BIOS remapping, telling the System to change the > > > > Now I'm really confused. > > > > First, I dpn't have a hda - I think that's something to do with the > > unusual setup on this mobo, which has the usual 2 IDE interfaces + 2 UDMA > > interfaces with a software Promise controller. > > you may not have an hda and hdb, but, when 'what ever' wrote your > 'lilo.conf', it thought you need to have them. > > so, to give them to you, a 1st re mapping is to issue, > disk=/dev/hde bios=0x81 > disk=/dev/hdg bios=0x82 > which ;logically' changes hde to hda, and hdf to hdb, so that bios will > think you have an hda and hdb... > > then because 'what ever' 'thinks' 'windowsOriginal' has to be on hda, which > in fact it does not, it again re wrote what is in bios to move logical hdb > to logical hda, and logical hda to logical hdb. i would guess this to > happen because when 'table=/dev/hde' is seen, it thinks this is not > 'hda/0x80' so it re maps again with, > map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 > map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 > > in effect, hde is 'logically' moved to hdb/0x81, then moved to hda/0x80. > > just a new play on old term 'faking it'. > > hthth. g - I've been away a couple of days, so I'm just picking this up. If windows is on hde1, and hde has been mapped to appear to be hdb, then windows will not boot. Correct? Does this mean that I should comment out the second mapping and try it? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Lilo conf lines
On Sunday 09 Mar 2003 4:41 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: > map-drive=0x80 > to=0x81 > map-drive=0x81 > to=0x80 > > Seems relevant. Maybe there is some correlation to your situation(s). > hth. > > Rolf Rolf, I've been away, and come in rather late at night. I'm going to need to digest this. I may well be back with more questions, but thanks for the answer. It certainly looks relevant. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Shorewall - DL'ed fm shorewall website
Can somebody cross check me here? I've got shorewall from the shorewall website, instead of from Mandrake as suggested in the shorewall guide. It seems to be much easier to use and I've set it up on my server/gateway box. Later I'll have some hardware available to seperate the gateway from the file server but this is what I am stuck with right now. So anyway I've got these for policies. Note that there is no masq interface. Now what I *think* this says is: ### #SOURCE DESTPOLICY LOG LEVEL LIMIT:BURST loc net ACCEPT loc fw ACCEPT fw net ACCEPT 1. Accept all packets from the local net to the internet. 2. Accept all packets from the local net to the firewall box. 3. Accept all packets from the firewall box to the internet. So basically the local network and the firewall box can talk to anyone but, as defined below, not anyone can talk back. # # If you want open access to the internet from your firewall, uncomment the # following line #fw net ACCEPT net all DROPinfo net fw DROPinfo net loc DROPinfo all all REJECT info #LAST LINE -- ADD YOUR ENTRIES ABOVE THIS LINE -- DO NOT REMOTE 4. Drop all packets broadcasted from the internet. 5. Drop all packets from the internet to the firewall box. 6. Drop all packets from the internet to the local net. 7. Reject all universally broadcasted packets. The only rules I have defined so far are: ACCEPT net fwtcp 22 #(ssh) ACCEPT net fwicmp8 #(ping) So anyway here is the big question: Given that I have physical security on the local net and firewall boxes, is this a safe basic setup? Note that netstat gives: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# netstat -ntupl Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:32769 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 905/rpc.statd tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:389 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 11987/slapd tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:901 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3520/xinetd tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:32775 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3520/xinetd tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:82000.0.0.0:* LISTEN 31439/httpd-perl tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:139 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 7846/smbd tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:10070.0.0.0:* LISTEN 22451/rpc.rquotad tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 783/portmap tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 31455/httpd tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:60000.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4409/X tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:1 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4097/perl tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:10001 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4207/perl tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:21 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3520/xinetd tcp0 0 192.168.1.253:530.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3469/named tcp0 0 208.152.4.207:530.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3469/named tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:530.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3469/named tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3495/sshd tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3551/cupsd tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:23 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3520/xinetd tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:31280.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4089/(squid) tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:953 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3469/named tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:443 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 31455/httpd tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:34844 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 22482/rpc.mountd tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:636 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 11987/slapd tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:77410.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4154/lisa udp0 0 0.0.0.0:32768 0.0.0.0:* 905/rpc.statd udp0 0 0.0.0.0:20490.0.0.0:* - udp0 0 0.0.0.0:32769 0.0.0.0:* 3469/named
Re: [expert] Slow FTP and POP3
Very cute. Miark On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:06:33 -0800 Todd Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Miark wrote on Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 04:58:56PM -0500 : > > > > I Googled the situation and found the answer: ident lookups. I have no idea > > Congratulations on your steps to becoming self-proficient and > self-reliant. It's an empowering step to take. > > Blue skies... Todd > - -- >MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com >Easy things should be easy, and hard things should be possible. > --Larry Wall > Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21-0.12mdk > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+bQxolp7v05cW2woRAlePAKCx9saBRNoXP3wm4sLfDWzoBmmSQACgnTv7 > zQCzlUdYhuJSklIuEBf4hi8= > =pBiU > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On Sunday 09 Mar 2003 8:49 pm, bascule wrote: > anne, > i can't see what browser you are using but form completions in konqueror > are stored in: > ~/.kde/share/apps/khtml/formcompletions > make a copy, edit out what you don't want, if it doesn't work put the old > one back - if you're using konq that is :) > > bascule I think this may have been what I was seeking. Now it shows user=root, and I'm betting that's where the *bad* entry was, too, before Adolfo showed me how to get rid of it. I'm saving this as well as Adolfo's mail, though, in case it ever happens again. Thanks Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kmail POP filter
On Sunday 09 Mar 2003 11:21 pm, engage wrote: > Is anyone using this (Settings->Configure POP filters)? I'm trying to get > it to delete HTML e-mail from the mail server instead of transferring it to > the client. It doesn't appear to work. > > Mandrake 9.0, sendmail-8.12.6-3.2mdk, gnu-pop3d-0.9.8-6mdk I've used KMail's pop filter against some spam, but not specifically against html. What parameters are you using? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On Monday 10 Mar 2003 12:00 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 01:35, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Ralph, I do not allow webmin to 'remember password'. I only use webmin > > when I need it - it is not normally live. I have checked the > > authentication setting and it is correct. > > > > The whole thing is puzzling. There has to be some way of finding it. > > > > Anne > > Anne > >You said this is only happening with Konq right? If you go to > http://ipnumber:1 with Mozilla does the same thing happen? What I'm > wondering here is if Konq has some kind of auto complete feature turned > on that is doing this for you. You did mention that you type an r and > then it fills the rest out for you. Usually if "remember this password" > is on it's filled out when you hit the page and you don't have to type > anything. If it works in webmin then there is something that webmin > needs to have turned off. If not, then Konq is where the effort needs > to be concentrated. > > James Fair comment, James. I didn't get this until after it was solved, but it would have been a logical approach. Thanks Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Simple question about netstat - not in man pages.
Take the following line for example which resulted from netstat -ntupl: Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3495/sshd Drop the 'n' and one gest a * instead of '0.0.0.0': Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp0 0 *:ssh *:* LISTEN 3495/sshd Now a 0 in an IP address is a referece to a network but what does it mean when netstat returns something like this? Is it listening in general to anyone or is it just reffering to the local machine? Another possibility I can think of is that it is listening but can't hear anything. So far I've looked in the man pages, OReilly's Essential System Administration and a few others which don't even list netstat, like Sobell's Unix System V; A Practical Guide. The dumb part is that this has got to be something simple. Perhaps, when I have the funds, I should invest in a book specifically on TCP/IP that covers netstat in detail. Jim C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Simple question about netstat - not in man pages.
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:00:59 -0800 Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Take the following line for example which resulted from netstat -ntupl: > > > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State > > PID/Program name > > tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN > > 3495/sshd > > Drop the 'n' and one gest a * instead of '0.0.0.0': > > > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State > > PID/Program name > > tcp0 0 *:ssh *:* LISTEN > > 3495/sshd > > Now a 0 in an IP address is a referece to a network but what does it > mean when netstat returns something like this? Is it listening in > general to anyone or is it just reffering to the local machine? Another > possibility I can think of is that it is listening but can't hear anything. The -l just lists ports that are in the act of listening, whereas active connections are listed separately. For instance, if you have another computer on your home network (B), ssh from B to A. Then on A, list all the TCP connections with a netstat -at. The listening ports (including ssh) will show a foreign address of as above, and listed separately below in the active connections you'll see your ssh connection from B to A. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] LT Win Modem on Notebook Computer
Dear all, I am using a notebook computer and I installed Mandrake 9.0. The problems I am having is that my notebook cannnot get on internet. My notebook has a LT Win Modem and I have installed a driver (ltmodem-kv_2.4.19_16mdk-8.26a9-1.i586.rpm) for the linux, but my notebook cannnot get on internet. Could you teach me how I can get on internet using the modem? My modem number is 1456VQL19R1. Thank you for your help. Best Regards, Kishi __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Lilo conf lines
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 09 Mar 2003 1:18 pm, g wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 09 Mar 2003 11:59 am, Joerg Mertin wrote: this is actually a BIOS remapping, telling the System to change the Now I'm really confused. just a new play on old term 'faking it'. hthth. but it did not. :P g - I've been away a couple of days, so I'm just picking this up. If windows is on hde1, and hde has been mapped to appear to be hdb, then windows will not boot. Correct? incorrect. }}-> understand a miss understanding, up to and including w98se, }}-> ms os boots active drive and designates it as 'c:\'. es. 1st, go back and re read your lilo.conf. 2nd, re read my last. lilo maps drives from ata100 controller to _bios_ position 0x81, 0x82. this is not a 'physical', but a 'bios software' position. at label 'other', bios positions are changed to move 'hde1', now '0x81', to bios '0x80' and bios '0x80' becomes '0x81'. this is all done in bios memory, where a byte of data can be a binary 'command', or, a binary 'switch', or, a 'pointer'. regardless of what it is, it is located in an assigned place for a specific reason. if you looked at these bytes as they 'may be' in bios they would look on an order of; normal value assignment 0x80 /dev/hda 0x81 /dev/hdb 0x82 /dev/hdc 0x83 /dev/hdd 0x88 /dev/hde [ 0x88 - 0x8b are example ] 0x89 /dev/hdf [ have yet to see hw byte table ] 0x8a /dev/hdg 0x8b /dev/hdh 1st re mapped 0x80 /dev/hda 0x88 /dev/hdb 0x89 /dev/hdc 0x83 /dev/hdd 0x81 /dev/hde 0x82 /dev/hdf 0x8a /dev/hdg 0x8b /dev/hdh 2nd re mapped 0x88 /dev/hda 0x80 /dev/hdb 0x89 /dev/hdc 0x83 /dev/hdd 0x81 /dev/hde 0x82 /dev/hdf 0x8a /dev/hdg 0x8b /dev/hdh now that you are more confused, grasp this; in control of hardware, bytes are bits, and bits are switches. a byte can turn on or off any single device, by bit position. in assigning devices, 2 bytes used, msb is device type or group. lsb is device in type or group. as i believe i mentioned else where, ata66 to ata66, ata100 to ata100. you will need to change lilo.conf and fstab. but it may end up less of a confusion. ;) Does this mean that I should comment out the second mapping and try it? no. try what i just suggested, again. <> that is, unless it works as it is and you are trying to understand why your lilo has drive reassignment and how it is done. peace out. tc,hago. g . =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". =+= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kmail POP filter
On Monday 10 March 2003 03:32 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 09 Mar 2003 11:21 pm, engage wrote: > > Is anyone using this (Settings->Configure POP filters)? I'm trying to get > > it to delete HTML e-mail from the mail server instead of transferring it > > to the client. It doesn't appear to work. > > > > Mandrake 9.0, sendmail-8.12.6-3.2mdk, gnu-pop3d-0.9.8-6mdk > > I've used KMail's pop filter against some spam, but not specifically > against html. What parameters are you using? > > Anne I set it up to delete any mail containing in the message from the server. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
I'm sorry, I should have read the entire message, my bad I diden't understand that the problem was that your username was being filled in (which also contained your password). I was of the impression that when you went to webmin you were being logged in automaticaly. Ralph > On Monday 10 Mar 2003 12:00 am, James Sparenberg wrote: >> On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 01:35, Anne Wilson wrote: >> > Ralph, I do not allow webmin to 'remember password'. I only use >> webmin when I need it - it is not normally live. I have checked the >> > authentication setting and it is correct. >> > >> > The whole thing is puzzling. There has to be some way of finding >> it. >> > >> > Anne >> >> Anne >> >>You said this is only happening with Konq right? If you go to >> http://ipnumber:1 with Mozilla does the same thing happen? What >> I'm wondering here is if Konq has some kind of auto complete feature >> turned on that is doing this for you. You did mention that you type >> an r and then it fills the rest out for you. Usually if "remember >> this password" is on it's filled out when you hit the page and you >> don't have to type anything. If it works in webmin then there is >> something that webmin needs to have turned off. If not, then Konq is >> where the effort needs to be concentrated. >> >> James > > Fair comment, James. I didn't get this until after it was solved, but > it would have been a logical approach. Thanks > > Anne > -- > Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LT Win Modem on Notebook Computer
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:02:41 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear all, > > I am using a notebook computer and I installed Mandrake 9.0. The > problems I am having is that my notebook cannnot get on internet. My > notebook has a LT Win Modem and I have installed a driver > (ltmodem-kv_2.4.19_16mdk-8.26a9-1.i586.rpm) for the linux, but my > notebook cannnot get on internet. Could you teach me how I can get on > internet using the modem? My modem number is 1456VQL19R1. Thank you for > your help. rm -f /dev/modem modprobe lt_modem ln -s /dev/tts/LT0 /dev/modem You may have to rebuild the lt_modem from source if the .rpm does not match the kernel. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kmail POP filter
On Monday 10 March 2003 08:17 pm, engage wrote: > On Monday 10 March 2003 03:32 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Sunday 09 Mar 2003 11:21 pm, engage wrote: > > > Is anyone using this (Settings->Configure POP filters)? I'm trying to > > > get it to delete HTML e-mail from the mail server instead of > > > transferring it to the client. It doesn't appear to work. > > > > > > Mandrake 9.0, sendmail-8.12.6-3.2mdk, gnu-pop3d-0.9.8-6mdk > > > > I've used KMail's pop filter against some spam, but not specifically > > against html. What parameters are you using? > > > > Anne > > I set it up to delete any mail containing in the message from the > server. Did this message get through? I'm sending it to the three addresses that I get when I use Konq's reply-to-all. ([EMAIL PROTECTED], engage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LT Win Modem on Notebook Computer
Hi, I tried to rebuild the lt_modem, but I could not make it. rm -f /dev/modem this is OK and does work, but modprobe lt_modem this does not work and kernel says "cannot locate module lt_modem.. How can I make it please? regards, kishi Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:02:41 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> I am using a notebook computer and I installed Mandrake 9.0. The >> problems I am having is that my notebook cannnot get on internet. My >> notebook has a LT Win Modem and I have installed a driver >> (ltmodem-kv_2.4.19_16mdk-8.26a9-1.i586.rpm) for the linux, but my >> notebook cannnot get on internet. Could you teach me how I can get on >> internet using the modem? My modem number is 1456VQL19R1. Thank you for >> your help. > > >rm -f /dev/modem >modprobe lt_modem >ln -s /dev/tts/LT0 /dev/modem > >You may have to rebuild the lt_modem from source if the .rpm does not >match the kernel. > > > __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kmail POP filter
On Monday 10 March 2003 07:22 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Monday 10 March 2003 08:17 pm, engage wrote: > > On Monday 10 March 2003 03:32 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Sunday 09 Mar 2003 11:21 pm, engage wrote: > > > > Is anyone using this (Settings->Configure POP filters)? I'm trying to > > > > get it to delete HTML e-mail from the mail server instead of > > > > transferring it to the client. It doesn't appear to work. > > > > > > > > Mandrake 9.0, sendmail-8.12.6-3.2mdk, gnu-pop3d-0.9.8-6mdk > > > > > > I've used KMail's pop filter against some spam, but not specifically > > > against html. What parameters are you using? > > > > > > Anne > > > > I set it up to delete any mail containing in the message from the > > server. > > Did this message get through? I'm sending it to the three addresses that I > get when I use Konq's reply-to-all. ([EMAIL PROTECTED], engage > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > -- cmg Yes, obviously. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LT Win Modem on Notebook Computer
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:04:06 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to rebuild the lt_modem, but I could not make it. > > rm -f /dev/modem this is OK and does work, but > > modprobe lt_modem this does not work and kernel says "cannot locate > module lt_modem.. Are you sure the .rpm installed OK...? The sources are at http://www.heby.de/ltmodem#sources Looks like a minor update since I installed mine... I've gotta go and will be on the road tomorrow; but will be accessing the 'net via my modem tomorrow evening... if you haven't got it sorted out by then, I can try upgrading and have more details to get you going... unless someone else can do it by then... You should be able to see the module like this: # ll /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ltmodem total 564 -rw-r--r--1 root root 543772 Nov 19 14:30 lt_modem.o -rw-r--r--1 root root28145 Nov 19 14:30 lt_serial.o If you only see it with: # ll /lib/modules/*/ltmodem but not for your kernel version; you *will* have to build it from source. The 1ST-README states: The installation sequence: ./build_module -> ./ltinst2 -> ./autoload suffices to prepare and install ready-for-use modem drivers. But YOU must still configure dialout scripts. HTH > > How can I make it please? > > > regards, > > kishi > > > > Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:02:41 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Dear all, > >> > >> I am using a notebook computer and I installed Mandrake 9.0. The > >> problems I am having is that my notebook cannnot get on internet. My > >> notebook has a LT Win Modem and I have installed a driver > >> (ltmodem-kv_2.4.19_16mdk-8.26a9-1.i586.rpm) for the linux, but my > >> notebook cannnot get on internet. Could you teach me how I can get > >on> internet using the modem? My modem number is 1456VQL19R1. Thank you > >for> your help. > > > > > >rm -f /dev/modem > >modprobe lt_modem > >ln -s /dev/tts/LT0 /dev/modem > > > >You may have to rebuild the lt_modem from source if the .rpm does not > >match the kernel. > > > > > > > > __ > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at > http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Simple question about netstat - not in man pages.
The -l just lists ports that are in the act of listening, whereas active connections are listed separately. For instance, if you have another computer on your home network (B), ssh from B to A. Then on A, list all the TCP connections with a netstat -at. The listening ports (including ssh) will show a foreign address of as above, and listed separately below in the active connections you'll see your ssh connection from B to A. OK, but a potential connection (i.e. listenting) from Local address 0.0.0.0:[arbitrary port number] to foreign address 0.0.0.0:[arbitrary port number] represents a possible connection between what IP's? So far, I have to assume that it is either any IP or no IP. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slow FTP and POP3
On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 13:58, Miark wrote: > It's me, O, Lord :-) > > I Googled the situation and found the answer: ident lookups. I have no idea > what they are (right now) but I know that both POP and FTP were using and > timing out on them. So I disabled them, and whamo--everything is fast again! > Miark, where did you find this info... or better yet where did you mod to stop it happening. James > Thank you, self. > > You're very welcome, self! > > Miark > > Roses are red, violets are blue; I'm schizophrenic and so am I. > > > > On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:25:51 -0500 > Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have a 8.2 machine co-hosted in a remote state from me. When I connect > > via the Web, SSH, or SMTP, it's fast. When I connect via POP3 I have to > > wait about 25 seconds, and for FTP I have to wait about 10 seconds. This > > has been the case for many months. There was a period of, perhaps a week > > when everything was fast. But then it reverted back to "some fast, some > > slow". > > > > It didn't make sense that it was my box, so I did a traceroute and found a > > couple of places where things always slow down--all on UUNet, the network > > on which my box is hosted. I called them for help, but they wouldn't look > > into it because I'm not a direct customer. I then had my ISP call, and they > > were told that as long as the connection _works_ we don't give a damn how > > long we have to wait. > > > > My ISP said that if more people brought it to their attention that they > > might look into it. Of course I have no idea of _really_ knowing whether > > others have called about this. > > > > So I dunno. Any ideas? I'm really sick of waiting a half-minute to connect > > to my POP server. > > > > Miark > > > > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Simple question about netstat - not in man pages.
This time Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> becomes daring and writes: >> The -l just lists ports that are in the act of listening, whereas active >> connections are listed separately. For instance, if you have another >> computer on your home network (B), ssh from B to A. Then on A, list all the >> TCP connections with a netstat -at. The listening ports (including ssh) >> will show a foreign address of as above, and listed separately below in >> the active connections you'll see your ssh connection from B to A. > > OK, but a potential connection (i.e. listenting) from Local address > 0.0.0.0:[arbitrary port number] to foreign address 0.0.0.0:[arbitrary > port number] represents a possible connection between what IP's? > So far, I have to assume that it is either any IP or no IP. 0.0.0.0 = any On TCP/IP networking, 0 as any octet of an IP is, for all purposes, a universal globing. That's why I hate people who set their LANs to use 192.168.0.x as their IPs...it drives me crazy, even if it's valid :) Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Help! root full but can't find a cause
civileme wrote: On Monday 10 March 2003 06:48 am, Mark Weaver wrote: et wrote: On Monday 10 March 2003 07:17 am, Mark Weaver wrote: Hi list, I noticed this yesterday after receiving an error message from Mozilla that it couldn't send a message. So far I've been all over the filesystem every way I know how, but still can't find a reason for this condition. So far I've phyiscally examined the filesystem with mc and du to see if I could find an extra large file somewhere, but nothing is popping out. The only thing on the "/" filesystem is everything but /var and /usr. I'm suspicious of the manner in which /mnt may be affecting the root filesystem. Any ideas? FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 718M 674M 7.6M 99% / none 62M 0 61M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda10618M 308M 310M 50% /home /dev/hdc1 643M 611M 0 100% /mnt/arc /dev/hda113.5G 2.1G 1.2G 61% /mnt/arc_2 /dev/hda6 1.4G 1.4G 26M 99% /usr /dev/hda7 934M 538M 349M 61% /var /dev/hda9 3.9G 906M 2.8G 24% /var/ftp /dev/hda8 1.1G 179M 869M 18% /var/www bud,,, each entry in /mnt takes about 4 bytes in the "/" filespace so I would bet that ai'nt it tried deleting (or cleaning) /tmp on boot? Ha! My suspicions were correct. It "was" a problem with one if the dir's in /mnt. Following Stephens' suggestion I umounted everything mounted under /mnt and then ran the "du" command. /mnt showed up as weighing in at 609M. Just a few more bytes then 4, eh? So, liberally wacking the contents of that directory, (which happened to be part of my mp3 collection) the weight if "/" is now back down to 10% or 66M. The quesiton now is "why" was just /mnt/mp3 effecting "/" and not /mnt/arc (which is 650M and at 100%) or /mnt/arc_2 which is currently at 61% (2.1GB)? By they way...thanks to all that responded. Your comments and suggestions helped me to elliminate possible causes and focus in the direction of the real culprit. A little background info: the dir's /mnt/arc, /mnt/arc_2, and /mnt/mp3 are shared over nfs and samba. while I don't have any trouble RW to ?mnt/arc, /mnt/arc_2 there were some problems with /mnt/mp3. It would only allow R access to the filesystem. Until yesterday when I shut down nfs and samba, umounted /mnt/mp3 and then chown'd /mnt/mp3 to user.root, and then chmod'd it to 777. Once that was done I was able to write to that partition from the client machines over nfs and samba, but I suspect that it was at that time when "/" began to be 100% full. whats up with that? You had /mnt/mp3 created locally instead of mounted remotely--when the remote mount is in place, it will overtake the local, but when it is not you will have a valid local directory (since it is defined as a directory to be a mount point. You therefore did not have the remote mount working when you wrote to /mnt/mp3. Usually ro write to a remote nfs system when writes are blocked you have to check permissions on BOTH machines, and define a way for a write to happen... Check the remote mount through remote linuxconf or webmin. Civileme Thanks guys. what you're saying makes a great deal of sense. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com