[expert] updates CD..
Hi guys, Just curious.. Is there an updates iso made anywere?? seems like that would be handy, and could even be automated.. I'm currently downloading all the updates in the mdk9 updates directory on FTP.. so I can update all my machines completely without having to do each one.. Incidently, does anyone know of a way to stop MandrakeUpdate deleting the files in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms That would be handy, then I could just grab all the packages and burn them to CD... rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] updates CD..
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 06:00, Frankie wrote: Incidently, does anyone know of a way to stop MandrakeUpdate deleting the files in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms That would be handy, then I could just grab all the packages and burn them to CD... The urpmi man page offers this pearl of wisdom: --noclean do not remove any package from the cache in directory /var/cache/urpmi/rpms. HTH! -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rourke Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] upgrading
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: Actually from 8.0 to 9.0 (inclusive) I never had a problem with CD upgrades breaking anything. :/ Of course I always upgraded my server only with releases. If you use beta's and rc's, you are bound to get broken stuff... Also, you might want to use the md5 signatures just in case. It can happen that some images will be broken after download. Pardon List, I should say upgrading via urpmi. Via CD it works but take too much time on my old pc. I can say from my personal experience that it won't work from 8.1 to 9.0 or 9.1. Cheers, Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Getting X Terminal to Work
I had some trouble getting a Mandrake 9.0 installation to act as an application server accessed from an X terminal. I finally got it working -- I found that kdm (or xdm or gdm) was not running (even though I was using kde locally (on that machine) just fine. I started kdm, and after a few false starts, was able to connect from a remote X terminal. (Prior to any of this, I had gotten a Knoppix installation to work as an application server, and had gone through the drill of commenting and uncommenting the appropriate lines in /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess, .../xdm-config, and /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc ([Xdmcp]=false to true).) Two questions: 1. Is this the intended behavior in Mandrake, or should this be logged as a bug? 2. Where is the most appropriate place (file) to add the kdm command so it restarts on every boot, etc.? Thanks! I am still subscribed to this mailing list, and will try to scan for a response (I'll try to find a watch this thread setting or similar), but with the high traffic on this list, I would appreciate an email cc. regards, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] updates CD..
Incidently, does anyone know of a way to stop MandrakeUpdate deleting the files in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms Hi, I asked this a while back and got some responses but mainly for urpmi from the command line. I looked at some of the scripts involved in MandrakeUpdate but didn't figure out how I could use the information successfully. I may have some time on my hands in the near future so it's something I might look at again. It's such an obvious thing to want to do I'm surprised it's not implemented. Paul. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] updates CD..
I suppose i could go though the calls to urpmi in MandrakeUpdate and add --noclean was hoping there was an easier way though.. It should be a checkbox on the GUI. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Fotheringham Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2003 9:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] updates CD.. Incidently, does anyone know of a way to stop MandrakeUpdate deleting the files in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms Hi, I asked this a while back and got some responses but mainly for urpmi from the command line. I looked at some of the scripts involved in MandrakeUpdate but didn't figure out how I could use the information successfully. I may have some time on my hands in the near future so it's something I might look at again. It's such an obvious thing to want to do I'm surprised it's not implemented. Paul. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] updates CD..
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 14:35, Frankie wrote: I suppose i could go though the calls to urpmi in MandrakeUpdate and add --noclean was hoping there was an easier way though.. It should be a checkbox on the GUI. It is easier to modify the defaults in urpmi: #- default options. my $update = 0; my $media = ''; my $synthesis = ''; my $auto = 0; my $allow_medium_change = 0; my $auto_select = 0; my $force = 0; my $allow_nodeps = 0; my $allow_force = 0; my $parallel = ''; my $sync = undef; my $X = 0; my $WID = 0; my $all = 0; my $rpm_opt = vh; my $use_provides = 1; my $fuzzy = 0; my $src = 0; my $clean = 0; my $noclean = 0;== to 1 my $pre_clean_cache = 0; my $post_clean_cache = 1; my $verbose = 0; my $root = ''; my $bug = ''; my $env = ''; my $log = ''; my $verify_rpm = 1; my $test = 0; -- Regards Steffen counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 87 Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] [1/2OT]BitTorrent, anybody?!?
I was wondering if anyone has tried this, and - obviously - what has been your experience with it: http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/download.html Stef Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] updates CD..
cool, thanks heaps... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steffen Barszus It is easier to modify the defaults in urpmi: #- default options. my $update = 0; my $media = ''; my $synthesis = ''; my $auto = 0; my $allow_medium_change = 0; my $auto_select = 0; my $force = 0; my $allow_nodeps = 0; my $allow_force = 0; my $parallel = ''; my $sync = undef; my $X = 0; my $WID = 0; my $all = 0; my $rpm_opt = vh; my $use_provides = 1; my $fuzzy = 0; my $src = 0; my $clean = 0; my $noclean = 0;== to 1 my $pre_clean_cache = 0; my $post_clean_cache = 1; my $verbose = 0; my $root = ''; my $bug = ''; my $env = ''; my $log = ''; my $verify_rpm = 1; my $test = 0; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] MandrakeUpdate-Signature not correct
Hi, Problems with MandrakeUpdate, all updates claim signature is not correct, should i install anyway? eg. The signature of the package `timezone-2.2.5-16mdk.i586.rpm' is not correct: gpg: signature made Fri 21 Mar 2003 09:07:25 PM EST using DSAkey ID 22458A98 gpg: Can't check signature: publiv key not found How can I fix this problem? Is it safe to continue? Getting updates from:: retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of update_source... --08:45:17-- ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.0/base/hdlist.cz = `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/.listing' Resolving mirrors.secsup.org... done. Connecting to mirrors.secsup.org[208.209.50.18]:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Installing Mandrake on a Laptop with nothing but wireless network + floppy
I've just got my hands on an old laptop with a wireless Orinoco card and a floppy drive. I can get it to boot via tomsrtboot and hapilly partition up the disk. So my question: Is it possible with just floppies to do a wireless network install of 9.1 without setting up your own nfs server? Alla Debian style install but using urpmi instead? -- Alex, homepage: http://www.bennee.com/~alex/ What would Brian Botano do? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [1/2OT]BitTorrent, anybody?!?
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:23:25 -0600, stefmit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anyone has tried this, and - obviously - what has been your experience with it: http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/download.html Stef I just wrote a short tutorial about BitTorrent, showing how to download Mandrake 9.1: http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=4760 -- Sridhar Dhanapalan [Yama | http://www.pclinuxonline.com/] You know where the original word bug came from, right? Do you think Redmond has a moth problem then? pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate-Signature not correct
On Wed Mar 26, 2003 at 06:44:26AM -0800, Tru64 User wrote:
Problems with MandrakeUpdate, all updates claim
signature is not correct, should i install anyway?
eg. The signature of the package
`timezone-2.2.5-16mdk.i586.rpm' is not correct:
gpg: signature made Fri 21 Mar 2003 09:07:25 PM EST
using DSAkey ID 22458A98
gpg: Can't check signature: publiv key not found
How can I fix this problem? Is it safe to continue?
Getting updates from::
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of
update_source...
--08:45:17--
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.0/base/hdlist.cz
= `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/.listing'
Resolving mirrors.secsup.org... done.
Connecting to mirrors.secsup.org[208.209.50.18]:21...
connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
You have to have the security team key... it should be installed in root's
keyring, so I'm not sure why you're seeing this. Is it possible that you're
using sudo to call urpmi? For some reason, when you use sudo, it checks the
user's keyring, and not root's. If you su to root and do gpg --list-keys
you should see a key for the Mandrake Security Team; if you don't, then you
need to install it (you can do it by using the www.mandrakesecure.net
keyserver).
--
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Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/
lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import
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Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Getting X Terminal to Work
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 04:38, Randy Kramer wrote: I had some trouble getting a Mandrake 9.0 installation to act as an application server accessed from an X terminal. I finally got it working -- I found that kdm (or xdm or gdm) was not running (even though I was using kde locally (on that machine) just fine. I started kdm, and after a few false starts, was able to connect from a remote X terminal. (Prior to any of this, I had gotten a Knoppix installation to work as an application server, and had gone through the drill of commenting and uncommenting the appropriate lines in /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess, .../xdm-config, and /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc ([Xdmcp]=false to true).) Two questions: 1. Is this the intended behavior in Mandrake, or should this be logged as a bug? 2. Where is the most appropriate place (file) to add the kdm command so it restarts on every boot, etc.? Sounds like you are using startx to start kde if so this means you are at run level 3 not 5 ... no problem. In /etc/inittab change this line. id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault: this will put you in runlevel 5 (graphical) from the go. Then in /etc/sysconfig/ there is a file called desktop. It should say something like DISPLAYMANAGER=GDM or for kdm KDM this sets which dm you use at boot. Thanks! I am still subscribed to this mailing list, and will try to scan for a response (I'll try to find a watch this thread setting or similar), but with the high traffic on this list, I would appreciate an email cc. Wow if you think this one is high traffic don't subscribe to the cooker list *grin* James regards, Randy Kramer __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [1/2OT]BitTorrent, anybody?!?
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 06:23, stefmit wrote: I was wondering if anyone has tried this, and - obviously - what has been your experience with it: http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/download.html Stef No but you are right it has interesting possibilities. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Nvidia Kernel Driver
Anyone else having problems building the Nvidia Kernel Driver RPM for 9.1? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] cups web interface not working (mandrake 9.0)
I hope this is corrected in Mandrake 9.1... I have been trying to get a bunch of remote lpd printers working with my MDK 9.0 system. Initially, using printerdrake it set them all up as remote cups printers which flatout wont work in this case. I cannot find a simple means of deleting the printers that cups/printerdrake created. In kcontrol, going to system and printer manager and then entering administrator mode, I am not given the option of deleting any printer at all. If I run printerdrake, the only option available is for adding printers, there is no option for deleting printers. I then tried using webmin to do this but the deleted printers keep coming back. Then I tried firing up the cups web interface to try to fix things there, but konqueror and mozilla refuse to render the page. Instead I get the raw html displayed, no interface. What does it take to delete printers in MDK 9.0? What does it take to get SOME printers to use cups and some to go direct to remote printers such that when I print from kghostview (viewing either a ps or pdf file) it doesn't go through kprinter which is totally broken in this case and instead uses lpr -Pmy desired remote printer? praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate-Signature not correct
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 09:01, Vincent Danen wrote: ...using sudo to call urpmi? For some reason, when you use sudo, it checks the user's keyring, and not root's. If you su to root and do gpg --list-keys Yeah, that is annoying. The insertion of keys into root's keyring doesn't seem to occur reliably either, for some reason. Haven't had time to deal yet though. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cups web interface not working (mandrake 9.0)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Praedor Atrebates wrote on Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:59:12PM -0500 : I have been trying to get a bunch of remote lpd printers working with my MDK 9.0 system. Initially, using printerdrake it set them all up as remote cups printers which flatout wont work in this case. I cannot find a simple means of deleting the printers that cups/printerdrake created. In kcontrol, going DoubleClick on the printer and click the Remove button. You were expecting a remove button to be on the main menu. So did I originally, but that's not the way it works. Ergonomically, I think it's better the way it is than the way we were expecting it to be. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Mandrake: An amalgam of good ideas from RedHat, Debian, and MandrakeSoft. All in all, IMHO, an unbeatable combination. --Levi Ramsey on Cooker ML Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gfIZlp7v05cW2woRAouvAJ4/m2tLxW/3AHsBLqpgq+uwAp0E7QCeK/R4 VB6TnXQFeJeWWDdTWWkBBFs= =ozZ3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cups web interface not working (mandrake 9.0)
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 09:59, Praedor Atrebates wrote: I hope this is corrected in Mandrake 9.1... I have been trying to get a bunch of remote lpd printers working with my MDK 9.0 system. Initially, using printerdrake it set them all up as remote cups printers which flatout wont work in this case. I cannot find a simple means of deleting the printers that cups/printerdrake created. In kcontrol, going to system and printer manager and then entering administrator mode, I am not given the option of deleting any printer at all. If I run printerdrake, the only option available is for adding printers, there is no option for deleting printers. I then tried using webmin to do this but the deleted printers keep coming back. Then I tried firing up the cups web interface to try to fix things there, but konqueror and mozilla refuse to render the page. Instead I get the raw html displayed, no interface. What does it take to delete printers in MDK 9.0? What does it take to get SOME printers to use cups and some to go direct to remote printers such that when I print from kghostview (viewing either a ps or pdf file) it doesn't go through kprinter which is totally broken in this case and instead uses lpr -Pmy desired remote printer? praedor Praedor, Click directly on on of the printers you have installed then chose Printer connection type... change it from whatever it is to printer on remote ldp server reconfig and it should be working (had to do this with a wireless print server in our office.) One point to note uncheck the auto-detect. I've found it less than optimal keeps wanting to change it to cups. This page also gives you the ability to remove a printer. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Savage 3D problem in MDK 9.1
Anyone else having problems with Savage 3D drive in MDK 9.1. The display blink !! Thanks !! Mauricy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] How do you get Realplayer plugin to work?
I cannot use the realplayer app unless I run it through artsdsp. Trying to run it straight up as realplay causes it to freeze shortly after its main window appears. This freezing also affects the netscape plugin, such that if I select to listen to audio via the realplayer plugin, nothing happens because it freezes up. How do you get the plugin working under KDE/Konqueror since it doesn't seem to get along with Arts at all? praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] KDE, being root, and crashing
My computer will freeze, requiring a reset whenever I do ANYTHING related to KDE root-type things. This includes logging into KDE as root (which I really don't do any way), using the File Manager - Super User Mode, where it brings up a konqueror window as root, editing stuff that is using the KDE libs as root (like changing the time of the clock in KDE, which requires root privelidges), and... well, you get the idea. Root and KDE simply don't get along, which is irritating because I can mess around with the Mandrake Control Center all day long without it crashing. This is because, of course, MCC uses GTK instead of any KDE libs. So what the hell is going on with my machine? Why does KDE hate root enough to lock up my entire system? ~ Joshua = You can't have bread and loaf. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate-Signature not correct
On Wed Mar 26, 2003 at 10:01:02AM -0800, Jack Coates wrote:
...using sudo to call urpmi? For some reason, when you use sudo, it checks the
user's keyring, and not root's. If you su to root and do gpg --list-keys
Yeah, that is annoying. The insertion of keys into root's keyring
doesn't seem to occur reliably either, for some reason. Haven't had time
to deal yet though.
There should be no issue inserting keys into root's keyring, provided you do
it as root.
FWIW, if you're going to use sudo, just make sure the public keys for
Mandrake packaging (I believe they are all on the CDs as /RPM-GPG-KEYS or
something), are in the user-who-is-calling-sudo's keyring. You won't get
those errors then.
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lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import
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Re: [expert] Well it's coming...
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 23:20, James Sparenberg wrote: Well, Looks like 9.1 is on the mirrors.. all 5 of them... kinda bytes that I had to learn about it on slashdot. Was hoping that club members would get a heads up before the /. crowd clogged the mirrors... bummmer. No, club members get a list of FTP sites that do not show up on the public list for 24-48 hours. Downloaded 9.1 this morning, all 3 CD's in a little over 2 hrs, maxed out my ADSL connection at 261 K/sec for the entire FTP session. Schweet! -- ...Rob -- If we put on a unique index we might end up with referential integrity. -- unknown in-duh-vidual = Robert Goshko Axis Computer Consulting Services, Inc President Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada http://www.axis-dev.ca/ Supporting the Revolution In Your World = Registered Linux User #260513 GNU/Linux i686 2.4.21-0.11mdk-725ca 11:37:01 up 4:31, 5 users, load average: 1.57, 1.65, 1.38 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate-Signature not correct
That was it. I was using sudo.
keyring?? I gotta read about that.
_Thanks
Richard
--- Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed Mar 26, 2003 at 06:44:26AM -0800, Tru64 User
wrote:
Problems with MandrakeUpdate, all updates claim
signature is not correct, should i install
anyway?
eg. The signature of the package
`timezone-2.2.5-16mdk.i586.rpm' is not correct:
gpg: signature made Fri 21 Mar 2003 09:07:25 PM
EST
using DSAkey ID 22458A98
gpg: Can't check signature: publiv key not found
How can I fix this problem? Is it safe to
continue?
Getting updates from::
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of
update_source...
--08:45:17--
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.0/base/hdlist.cz
= `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/.listing'
Resolving mirrors.secsup.org... done.
Connecting to
mirrors.secsup.org[208.209.50.18]:21...
connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
You have to have the security team key... it should
be installed in root's
keyring, so I'm not sure why you're seeing this. Is
it possible that you're
using sudo to call urpmi? For some reason, when you
use sudo, it checks the
user's keyring, and not root's. If you su to root
and do gpg --list-keys
you should see a key for the Mandrake Security Team;
if you don't, then you
need to install it (you can do it by using the
www.mandrakesecure.net
keyserver).
--
MandrakeSoft Security;
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/
Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/
lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg
--import
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[expert] how to tell lilo at boot that the root partition should be read only
Hi, I am trying to develop a driver and for now I am trying to figure out some access values (manual doesn't exist). I already found 2 of the needed values and it loads the module. The problem is that while I am trying to figure the other values, sometimes I mess up and end up almost destroying my root partition. :) I tried booting in single mode (passing single at lilo), but no go. The / partition is still writeable... Anyway, since it is no fun to reinstall Mandrake each time I try a new value :), maybe someone could tell me what boot parameter should I pass to make the / partition readonly? I tried to do a mount -o remount,ro /dev/hda9, but it keeps saying the /dev/hda9 is busy. Anyone any idea? I think writing ro as parameter in the fstab is not such a good idea. ;) Best regards, Adrian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [expert] MandrakeUpdate-Signature not correct
Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 3:32:11 PM, you wrote: TU That was it. I was using sudo. TU keyring?? I gotta read about that. Here you go: http://www.mykidart.com/.sc/ms/dd/1032987946/9/nc/ee/18/Key%20Ring -- Matt Cahill mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Getting X Terminal to Work
Jack, Thanks for your response -- some followup interspersed below: On Wednesday 26 March 2003 11:40 am, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 04:38, Randy Kramer wrote: I had some trouble getting a Mandrake 9.0 installation to act as an application server accessed from an X terminal. I finally got it working -- I found that kdm (or xdm or gdm) was not running (even though I was using kde locally (on that machine) just fine. I started kdm, and after a few false starts, was able to connect from a remote X terminal. (Prior to any of this, I had gotten a Knoppix installation to work as an application server, and had gone through the drill of commenting and uncommenting the appropriate lines in /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess, .../xdm-config, and /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc ([Xdmcp]=false to true).) Two questions: 1. Is this the intended behavior in Mandrake, or should this be logged as a bug? intended. 2. Where is the most appropriate place (file) to add the kdm command so it restarts on every boot, etc.? Use init level 5 -- edit /etc/inittab. Hmm, I'm thinking I miscommunicated -- Mandrake does start up in run level 5 (id:5:initdefault: in /etc/inittab) -- even so, and even though kde runs fine locally (in X), there is no display manager running (kdm, gdm, or xdm). When I do a ps -Al | grep dm, the only thing that comes up is a line for prefdm. This is what I was asking about -- Is this the intended behavior in Mandrake (9.0)? (In addition to the two possibilities I was thinking of when I first sent the email (that this was intended behavior, but unusual, or that this was a bug) there is a third possibility -- that I have somehow hosed my system so that no display manager runs.) As an aside, I didn't know kde could run without a display manager -- if someone can comment on that I'm sure I'll learn something. Or, maybe I'm misunderstanding you now -- maybe you're suggesting I edit the rc file for runlevel 5 (whatever its name is) and add kdm? regards, Randy Kramer Thanks! I am still subscribed to this mailing list, and will try to scan for a response (I'll try to find a watch this thread setting or similar), but with the high traffic on this list, I would appreciate an email cc. regards, Randy Kramer ___ ___ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Getting X Terminal to Work
Sounds like you are using startx to start kde if so this means you are at run level 3 not 5 ... no problem. In etc/inittab change this ine. id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault: this will put you in runlevel 5 (graphical) from the go. Then in /etc/sysconfig/ there is a file called desktop. It should say something like DISPLAYMANAGER=GDM or for kdm KDM this sets which dm you use at boot. Should it be: DISPLAYMANAGER=GDM or: DISPLAYMANAGER=GNOME or can either be used? -Bob _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Getting X Terminal to Work
Jack and On Wednesday 26 March 2003 03:58 pm, Jack Coates wrote: what's it say in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? It did say (only): DESKTOP=KDE In response to a suggestion from James Sparenberg, I added: DISPLAYMANAGER=KDM I've just rebooted, and KDM still fails to start. (As determined by ps -Al | grep dm.) http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/remote-x-cygwin Aside: This link did not work -- not sure if was intended to be on topic or not. regards, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate-Signature not correct
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tru64 User wrote on Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:32:11PM -0800 : That was it. I was using sudo. Bit me too at first, don't feel bad. keyring?? I gotta read about that. http://www.mrball.net/keysigning.php Blue skies... Todd - -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ Favourite shell: bash, though I also like 'init=/usr/bin/emacs' --Andrew Tridgell Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+giqolp7v05cW2woRAvn9AJ9hpAkzZLcISDKdl4do0Zm6RgVjlACgwScG RWsj4MvxZW/wjjYcYpHd4hM= =W9OD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Nvidia Kernel Driver
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 09:54 am, Jay wrote: Anyone else having problems building the Nvidia Kernel Driver RPM for 9.1? Yep. I have a Chaintech G4 440MX detected and ran flawlessly under 9.0 that would not work with the 9.1 kernel drivers, so I was stuck in console. -10 for Mandrake releasing a version with out testing the NVidia drivers better. +5 for keeping the 9.0 kernel around. Rob -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA Linux: For the poeple, by the people. True democracy in computing. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do you get Realplayer plugin to work?
I select to listen to audio via the realplayer plugin, nothing happens=20 because it freezes up. How do you get the plugin working under KDE/Konquer= I don't need to use artsdsp, but nevertheless it still wants a plugin for realplay. I once was able to get this working - and it seems to work on some sites like bbc. FWiW I was trying with konqueror as well. But with netscape the realplayer comes up embedded in the mini-display only to let me know another app may be using the audio device. So it seems that there's an issue with the browser configuration. I'd rather grab the audio right off the web page with wget and pipe it in - why bother with plugins? I vaguely recall an app called 'rpnhelper' that was supposed to facilitate this - it used to work with Netscape and when I switched to Mozilla I don't think I had to do anything special (maybe it absorbed the netscape things). I don't recall needing to do any extra work to get the sound either -- regardless of whether artdsp or whatever else was running. But lately (and with this) it seems to be interfering. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] how to tell lilo at boot that the root partitionshould be read only
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 12:35, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: Hi, I am trying to develop a driver and for now I am trying to figure out some access values (manual doesn't exist). I already found 2 of the needed values and it loads the module. The problem is that while I am trying to figure the other values, sometimes I mess up and end up almost destroying my root partition. :) I tried booting in single mode (passing single at lilo), but no go. The / partition is still writeable... Anyway, since it is no fun to reinstall Mandrake each time I try a new value :), maybe someone could tell me what boot parameter should I pass to make the / partition readonly? I tried to do a mount -o remount,ro /dev/hda9, but it keeps saying the /dev/hda9 is busy. Anyone any idea? I think writing ro as parameter in the fstab is not such a good idea. ;) Best regards, Adrian Adrian on the above no advice... On preventing this from happening again... Take a look at UML User Mode Linux... you can run linux inside linux no emulation just Linux inside linux. It's own kernel etc. End result... if you muck up the box kill -9 and try again. james __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Getting X Terminal to Work
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 12:57, Bob Brickey wrote: Sounds like you are using startx to start kde if so this means you are at run level 3 not 5 ... no problem. In etc/inittab change this ine. id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault: this will put you in runlevel 5 (graphical) from the go. Then in /etc/sysconfig/ there is a file called desktop. It should say something like DISPLAYMANAGER=GDM or for kdm KDM this sets which dm you use at boot. Should it be: DISPLAYMANAGER=GDM or: DISPLAYMANAGER=GNOME or can either be used? -Bob On older ones it did say GNOME (my 8.2 box) but on my 9.1 box it says GDM I think it was changed to be consistent. KDM GDM XDM MDKKDM which makes sense. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Nvidia Kernel Driver
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 16:27, Rob Blomquist wrote: -10 for Mandrake releasing a version with out testing the NVidia drivers better. No you are wrong, to be blunt :-) If you are a member of Mandrake Club you can download Nvidia drivers for 9.1 today, along with other drivers and commercial applications. Or you can wait who knows how many weeks for Nvidia to release something that may work. Nvidia drivers are proprietary. That is the root cause of the problem. Best wishes, Damon -- Damon Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MS crud
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 12:28, Mark Weaver wrote: Dave Laird wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good morning, Pierre... On Saturday 15 March 2003 06:19 am, Pierre Fortin wrote: I may have a look at the code; but rather than strings, I would think quick-exit protocol-diving would be a better approach... but that's just me... No, you're very right. I've let the box running strings under IPTables run for nearly 12 hours, and I think your conclusions about it are pretty accurate. It bogs down the system, particularly because it is only running 64M of memory. However, I added a few sticks of SDRAM this morning and compared it to last night's performance, and I didn't see that much difference. However, when I compared the overall performance of the box with another identical box running standard IPTables, I still noticed a performance hit. I'm not that enamored of the idea. Back to the drawing board. Thanks to everyone who gave input to this idea. It *does* block strings from Code Red, but at a pretty substantial performance hit. Dave I know this is late in the thread, but I've found adding a REWrite rule to httpd.conf to be the ticket! I haven't seen any, and I mean None of the M$ crud in my logs since. There has been zero (0) performance drop on this AMD 233/ 128MB SDRAM box since taking this action. Mark, Care to explain to the terminally dense (me) what a REWrite rule is? please. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MS crud
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 21:01, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 12:28, Mark Weaver wrote: Dave Laird wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good morning, Pierre... On Saturday 15 March 2003 06:19 am, Pierre Fortin wrote: I may have a look at the code; but rather than strings, I would think quick-exit protocol-diving would be a better approach... but that's just me... No, you're very right. I've let the box running strings under IPTables run for nearly 12 hours, and I think your conclusions about it are pretty accurate. It bogs down the system, particularly because it is only running 64M of memory. However, I added a few sticks of SDRAM this morning and compared it to last night's performance, and I didn't see that much difference. However, when I compared the overall performance of the box with another identical box running standard IPTables, I still noticed a performance hit. I'm not that enamored of the idea. Back to the drawing board. Thanks to everyone who gave input to this idea. It *does* block strings from Code Red, but at a pretty substantial performance hit. Dave I know this is late in the thread, but I've found adding a REWrite rule to httpd.conf to be the ticket! I haven't seen any, and I mean None of the M$ crud in my logs since. There has been zero (0) performance drop on this AMD 233/ 128MB SDRAM box since taking this action. Mark, Care to explain to the terminally dense (me) what a REWrite rule is? please. James Just like I posted at the beginning of this thread, lo these many weeks ago :-) http://www.monkeynoodle.org/lrp/deworming.html It's been kind of entertaining watching Dave and Mark go off in search of the most difficult way to do it while ignoring that URL until they finally snipped it out... that is, when I've had time to notice. Brutally busy week and I'm going to bed now. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MS crud
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 21:28, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 21:01, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 12:28, Mark Weaver wrote: Dave Laird wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good morning, Pierre... On Saturday 15 March 2003 06:19 am, Pierre Fortin wrote: I may have a look at the code; but rather than strings, I would think quick-exit protocol-diving would be a better approach... but that's just me... No, you're very right. I've let the box running strings under IPTables run for nearly 12 hours, and I think your conclusions about it are pretty accurate. It bogs down the system, particularly because it is only running 64M of memory. However, I added a few sticks of SDRAM this morning and compared it to last night's performance, and I didn't see that much difference. However, when I compared the overall performance of the box with another identical box running standard IPTables, I still noticed a performance hit. I'm not that enamored of the idea. Back to the drawing board. Thanks to everyone who gave input to this idea. It *does* block strings from Code Red, but at a pretty substantial performance hit. Dave I know this is late in the thread, but I've found adding a REWrite rule to httpd.conf to be the ticket! I haven't seen any, and I mean None of the M$ crud in my logs since. There has been zero (0) performance drop on this AMD 233/ 128MB SDRAM box since taking this action. Mark, Care to explain to the terminally dense (me) what a REWrite rule is? please. James Just like I posted at the beginning of this thread, lo these many weeks ago :-) http://www.monkeynoodle.org/lrp/deworming.html It's been kind of entertaining watching Dave and Mark go off in search of the most difficult way to do it while ignoring that URL until they finally snipped it out... that is, when I've had time to notice. Brutally busy week and I'm going to bed Cool, I did this with php sorta about 2 years ago wonder where that code is James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Well it's coming...
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 22:12, Joeb wrote: On 25 Mar 2003 22:20:55 -0800 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Looks like 9.1 is on the mirrors.. all 5 of them... kinda bytes that I had to learn about it on slashdot. Was hoping that club members would get a heads up before the /. crowd clogged the mirrors... bummmer. James Club members were notified about it on the club website just before announcement went public. The club listed special mirrors to download from while 9.1 was still being replicated to the normal ones. Unfortunately, some idiot posted the club mirrors all over the place and ruined it for the rest of us. Joeb Problem with the club... finding things. Took me forever to find some kind of reference to 9.1 on that site. Security by obscurity James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Getting X Terminal to Work
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 21:03, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 14:07, Randy Kramer wrote: Jack and On Wednesday 26 March 2003 03:58 pm, Jack Coates wrote: what's it say in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? It did say (only): DESKTOP=KDE In response to a suggestion from James Sparenberg, I added: DISPLAYMANAGER=KDM I've just rebooted, and KDM still fails to start. (As determined by ps -Al | grep dm.) Just curious here... what does start does it go straight into kde? James http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/remote-x-cygwin Aside: This link did not work -- not sure if was intended to be on topic or not. regards, Randy Kramer Jack if this helps. Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 150, in publish_module File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 114, in publish File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 159, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: comp) File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 89, in publish File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/BaseRequest.py, line 308, in traverse File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py, line 502, in debugError NotFound: (see above) From your page... James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MS crud
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good evening, Jack...everyone... On Wednesday 26 March 2003 09:28 pm, Jack Coates wrote: It's been kind of entertaining watching Dave and Mark go off in search of the most difficult way to do it while ignoring that URL until they finally snipped it out... that is, when I've had time to notice. Brutally busy week and I'm going to bed now. [laughing despite myself] Shame on you for not stopping Mark and I from chasing rainbows, but I do submit the strings method, while a bit obscure, works just fine. However, the minute I saw your message, I went to the Green Room and immediately applied the RedirectMatch line. I'm too tired to sit up and watch it, but I'll check it tomorrow morning. Thanks. Dave - -- Dave Laird ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Used Kharma Lot / The Phoenix Project Web Page: http://www.kharma.net updated 03/05/2003 Usenet News server: news.kharma.net Musicians Calendar and Database access: http://www.kharma.net/calendar.html An automatic random thought For the Minute: Logic doesn't apply to the real world. -- Marvin Minsky -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gqRLaE1ENZP1A28RAjchAJ4yQMKB3I7pa4KRzKRN6WWsyDLqNgCeLhC8 1GUE0V9SJktQut3mIX1YEbA= =6HeS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] how to tell lilo at boot that the root partitionshould be read only
Normally when booting single the root partition should be readonly... After I booted in single mode with Mandrake 9.1 it was still rw. :/ Can it be because ML uses supermount?!? Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Expert List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [expert] how to tell lilo at boot that the root partitionshould be read only On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 12:35, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: Hi, I am trying to develop a driver and for now I am trying to figure out some access values (manual doesn't exist). I already found 2 of the needed values and it loads the module. The problem is that while I am trying to figure the other values, sometimes I mess up and end up almost destroying my root partition. :) I tried booting in single mode (passing single at lilo), but no go. The / partition is still writeable... Anyway, since it is no fun to reinstall Mandrake each time I try a new value :), maybe someone could tell me what boot parameter should I pass to make the / partition readonly? I tried to do a mount -o remount,ro /dev/hda9, but it keeps saying the /dev/hda9 is busy. Anyone any idea? I think writing ro as parameter in the fstab is not such a good idea. ;) Best regards, Adrian Adrian on the above no advice... On preventing this from happening again... Take a look at UML User Mode Linux... you can run linux inside linux no emulation just Linux inside linux. It's own kernel etc. End result... if you muck up the box kill -9 and try again. james __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
