Re: [expert] afriad to lose LILO
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, OOzy Pal wrote: I have dual boot LM8 and Win2000. I want to remove Win2000 and install Win98 but if I do this win98 will not recognize LM* and will overwrite the boot sector. What can I do to avoid this install win98, it will overwrite the MBR. then boot from the linux rescue disk. when you're up, run '/sbin/lilo'.
Re: [expert] inetd ?
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Sheldon E. Newhouse wrote: Hello, I just installed 8.0 and can't telnet into the host. I am running both the telnet server and client. It gives me a connection refused. I looked for /etc/inetd.conf and there is none. What should I do? not installed by default. look on (i believe) cdrom #1 for the telnet daemon.
Re: [expert] gcc-2.96 problem...
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Steve Kieu wrote: Hi, I got error when trying to compile the kernel using gcc 2.96; just wonder if I can install gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm and use it instead. 2.91.66 is recommended for kernel building.
Re: [expert] APC UPS shutdown script? How does it work?
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Walter Luffman wrote: I went to the APC website (www.apcc.com) and searched through the download area. APC offers both a simple shutdown daemon and various versions of its PowerChute software for Linux. -- none specifically for Mandrake, but perhaps one of the Red Hat downloads is generic enough to work. APC also offers a Sparc version of PowerChute, if that's what you need. The better way to go is to get a 'smart' ups (again, I stronly advise against APC, but if you get the APC SmartUPS at LEAST it usually works with serial ports), which can give you all kinds of cool info, like loading, battery health (I think), temperature, and stuff like that. No argument here that a smart UPS is bound to be superior to a more simple UPS -- when comparing similar items, You get what you pay for is true more often than not. But a home user may not need that much functionality. Note to anyone still running without a UPS: My area is blessed with reasonably reliable power, mainly because thunderstorms and tornadoes over the years forced the utilities to upgrade their infrastructure. But I still get the occasional spike or brownout.. Before I installed my UPS I just took my chances and accepted the occasional fried hardware as an opportunity to upgrade. Now the power entering my computer and peripherals is clean and rock-solid, as long as the interruption isn't too long. Even without unattended shutdowns I consider my UPS a very worthwhile investment. (I still upgrade my hardware now and then, but now the old hardware is usually in working condition so I can use it to upgrade even older equipment.)
Re: [expert] APC UPS shutdown script? How does it work?
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: damn mail software. didn't mean to send an empty message, sorry. anyway, i've used a smartups with mandrake 7.2 for over a year with no problems.
Re: [expert] APC UPS shutdown script? How does it work?
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, David Rankin wrote: Sorry if this is a little off topic: I had my LM7.2 server go down for the 4th time due to a power outage. I had to manually fsck /dev/hda7 to bring the system back up. I am convinced that this is not a good way to treat the server and I am going to buy an APC UPS to keep it from happening again. What I need to know is if anyone has any advice on how to configure the APC box to send a shutdown signal over the serial port to nicely shut the server down. I don't have any experience with UPS's and just want to make sure I'll be able to accomplish getting the UPS to talk to my server and shut it down before I go spend the money on a UPS. All of the APC UPSs come with software to shut windows down, but don't say a thing about Linux. How do I get it to work with my server? Advise would be great, but if you can just point me to the right docs, I don't have a problem reading. i have an apc smartups. it has a daemon you can install under linux that will do what you want. it even has an X app that lets you connect to the daemon and see what's up...
Re: [expert] routing problem
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Doug Gough wrote: I'm not able to get my LM8.0 box to work as a router between to LANs. When it boots, I get a message saying IP forwarding is on. My routing table is very simple, using static routing as follows 131.103.1.0 131.103.1.10255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 eth1 10.10.0.0 10.10.90.99 255.255.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U0 0 0 lo It couldn't get much simpler. I have checked and rechecked the IP addresses and netmasks, and found everything to be correct. From the 131.103.1.0 network, I can ping 131.103.1.10 and 10.10.90.99, but I can't reach anything else on the 10.10.0.0 network. I've read as much as I can find on the subject, undoubtebly missing the most simple and obvious :-) Any hints and help would be appreciated. sorry i came in the middle, so if someone has suggested this already, please forgive me. have you enabled IP forwarding?
Re: [expert] routing problem
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Nathan Callahan wrote: You have it set so that 131.103.1.10 and 10.10.90.99 are gateways. This probably isn't what you want, as it means that these hosts are assumed to be responsible for all traffic bound for their respective networks. If you remove the gw x.x.x.x parts from the respective routing tables, it will probably work. i was wondering about that myself... The other thing is that you may need to turn on proxy arp if you want the computer to act as a bridge between these networks. This can be done with echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/proxy_arp echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth1/proxy_arp I think that this is only nessessary if you need the box to be transparent (like a switch) and probably only if the machines on either side don't know that they are on different networks. with different networks on each side, proxy arp is not his problem.
Re: [expert] routing problem
you make some good points. on the other hand, my feeling is that if he is going to configure this linux box as a router, it should participate as a router. e.g. the routers on the respective network segments should treat it as such - either with static routes to the subnets or by running some dynamic protocol.
Re: [expert] routing problem
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Pierre Fortin wrote: Assuming the routers are there to access Net[AB], you can turn on proxy ARP as Nathan suggested in his reply to simplify other host configuration requirements and reduce unnecessary router hops and resultant ICMP redirects. Proxy ARP -- a short course: when a host ARPs for a remote destination without trying to go thru a GW, a router which knows how to get to that destination will Proxy ARP reply allowing the host to send its packets to what it thinks is the destination (hence proxy). Note that a Proxy ARP reply is no guarantee of the best route, just a viable route; but in your case, unless the topology is more complex, only the best router will reply since the other router would have to route packets back out the same interface they come in on... not what routers are 'trained' to do... i guess. i really don't like doing proxy arp, and it's almost never necessary.
Re: [expert] rpmdrake confused?
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Civileme wrote: ... so, how do i get the db recreated? it never seems to want to read the info from the two cds :( Put CD1 in and in a superuser terminal rpm -e --nodeps rpmdrake-1.3-49mdk.rpm cd /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS rpm -ivh rpmdrake-1.3-49mdk.rpm i did this. it never touched the /var/lib/urpmi directory. i even tried deleting and re-adding the two cdroms as sources, but that doesn't help because: unable to take medium CD 1 Installation CD (x86) (cdrom1) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.CD 1 Installation CD (x86) (cdrom1)] exists unable to take medium CD 2 2nd Installation CD (x86) (cdrom2) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.CD 2 2nd Installation CD (x86) (cdrom2)] exists i did update rpmdrake to 1.3-52 from the ftp site. surely there's a way to regenerate /var/lib/urpmi from scratch without doing a reinstall?
Re: [expert] rpmdrake confused?
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Civileme wrote: Try this 1. Remove ALL sources from Software manager 2. rpm --rebuilddb 3. Give software manager some sources again. no luck. just to clarify, after step #1, am i supposed to quit the software manager?
Re: [expert] compiling new kernel in lm 8.0
At 03:37 AM 5/31/2001 -0700, Bill Beauchemin wrote: Im running 2.4.3 and need to try an earlier kernel like 2.2.19 because the newer kernel reboots in smp mode. The problem im having is that when I do a make bzImage I get this at the end of compiling and it dumps out. cheecksum.S:231: badly punctuated list in #define cheecksum.S:237: badly punctuated list in #define make[2]: *** [checksum.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib' make[1]: ***[first_rule]Error 2 make[1]: leaving directory '/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib' make: *** [_dir_arch/i386/lib] Error 2 and dumps me to my prompt. I have tried 2.2.24 and 2.2.16 with the same results. I'm not sure i understand your point about smp mode. If you don't want that, turn it off in the config and build a new kernel?
Re: [expert] URGENT!Memory crashes LM 8.0
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: Using LM 8.0 on my AMD k6-2 400 CPU with KDE 2.1.1. Just had my friend Bill, the computer expert, install my new PNY memory modules. The two new modules (128 meg each) together with the 128 module already on my system (there are three sockets on my Soyo SY-5EMA + Super 7 Mainboard version 2.0 motherboard) add up to 384 megs of real RAM plus a swap file of 256 megs from my original installation. [snip] sounds like one or more of the memory modules is bad. i know you said it works under windows, but windows might not even touch the extra modules.
Re: [expert] URGENT!Memory crashes LM 8.0
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Ric Tibbetts wrote: When you boot it, from the LILO prompt, try: linux mem=384 Also, try going back to Windows, and check to see if it is recognizing ALL of that memory. none of this explains why he is freezing though.
Re: [expert] URGENT!Memory crashes LM 8.0
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Leonardo T. de Carvalho wrote: Dan Swartzendruber wrote: none of this explains why he is freezing though. Yup, when the memory is not properly recognized , the system hangs at random times... I've seen this, mainly on SiS mboards.. hmmm, news to me. usually segvs are bad RAM. if linux isn't even recognizing the RAM, how can it touch it to fault?
Re: [expert] rpmdrake confused?
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Civileme wrote: no luck. just to clarify, after step #1, am i supposed to quit the software manager? Yes Ok try this rm -r /var/lib/list.CD* -f rm -r /var/lib/depslist.ordered urpmi.update -a rpm --rebuilddb If that fixes the problem, it relates to a known bug in urpmi rather than to rpmDrake itself. it not only didn't fix the problem, now i can't use rpmdrake for anything. it complains about bad packages. and i see a lot of these being printed: unable to read depslist file [/var/lib/urpmi/depslist.ordered] no package named perl-TimeDate unable to access list file of CD 1 Installation CD (x86) (cdrom1), medium ignored unable to access list file of CD 2 2nd Installation CD (x86) (cdrom2), medium ignored ... so, how do i get the db recreated? it never seems to want to read the info from the two cds :(
Re: [expert] compiled kernel hangs up...
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Mark Weaver wrote: David, Thanks for the heads up, but can you be a little more specific? I've got an archive here on my system that goes back to February and I'm not finding anything about it. there is an incompatibility between the reiserfs in 2.2 and 2.4, IIRC.
Re: [expert] compiled kernel hangs up...
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Mark Weaver wrote: Thanks Dan...that would explain a great many things that have been giving me trouble with getting this kernel to work on my system. Is there a fix for this? i think you can convert the old style to new style, but it's a one way trip. this (among other reasons) is why i've backed off from using reiser.
Re: [expert] rpmdrake confused?
At 06:15 PM 5/30/2001 -0700, Civileme wrote: On Wednesday 30 May 2001 08:00, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote: I have noticed that my rpmdrake tends to lose CDROM 2 from the list. Dan Swartzendruber wrote: this is really odd. rpmdrake has suddenly developed amnesia about my install cdroms. i look at the list of packages available, and select one. i click on 'install/remove'. it tells me to insert the first cdrom (or the second, depending on the package). i do. i clock the ok bar. it ejects the CD and says try again. is there some kind of DB inconsistency issue here? Try this 1. Remove ALL sources from Software manager 2. rpm --rebuilddb 3. Give software manager some sources again. If this cures the problem, then see if you can cause it again, but this time take notes g. There does appear to be a bug in this code and the symptoms are really confusing. (And it sure doesn't help when everyone here knows exactly how to use the software--it is some sort of error-recovery that must not be happening as anticipated, and we can't seem to reproduce it :-/ okie dokie. i'll try this when i get home. thx!
[expert] rpmdrake confused?
this is really odd. rpmdrake has suddenly developed amnesia about my install cdroms. i look at the list of packages available, and select one. i click on 'install/remove'. it tells me to insert the first cdrom (or the second, depending on the package). i do. i clock the ok bar. it ejects the CD and says try again. is there some kind of DB inconsistency issue here?
Re: [expert] SYS MAIL
On Mon, 28 May 2001, Andrew George wrote: can also put in in /etc/postfix/aliases. Or /etc/aliases (they are symlinked) for postfix don't forget to run postailias /etc/postfix/aliases to that the changes make it into the hash tables postfix uses or, for the sendmail expatriates: newaliases :)
[expert] software manager upgrading?
I finally gave up on cooker (for now). Did a clean install of 8.0 and it seems to work pretty well. I was going through uninstalling packages I don't use (using Software Manager), and I noticed something kind of odd. I had done an upgrade of a dozen or so packages that were newer than what was installed on my system. So now, I'm scrolling through a list of installed packages, and I notice that, for example, samba now has a 2.0.7 *and* a 2.0.9 showing up. Is this deliberate?
[expert] update on fullscreen problems
here's what i've tried so far (unsuccessfully): 1. cooker/xfs/4.0.3 blank screen with some garbage at top. 2. cooker/xfs/3.3.6 same. 3. red hat 7.1/xfs (i know) Server freezes or crashes. 4. mandrake 8.0/4.0.3 Server freezes or crashes. I'm downloading the #2 cdrom from 8.0, but when that's done I'm going to try an experiment (use a different WM than KDE while I try going into fullscreen in vmware). Don't remember where I saw that, but there was a least one tip I received to that effect.
[expert] full-screen problems with vmware - followup
well, i'm stumped. tried a non-kde WM (icewm). no difference (e.g. the same blank console window with colored crap along the top). i'd love to know why this worked in 7.2 - if it's just an older (but more stable?) X server, i'd cheerfully downgrade :(
Re: [expert] Where is : wish ?
On Sun, 27 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have installed the kernel Mandrake 8.0 cd /usr/src/linux make xconfig give me this error : make : wish: Command not found I did not find where is thi package get tcl and tk packages.
Re: [expert] SYS MAIL
On Mon, 28 May 2001, Chris Spackman wrote: On my machine, it is postfix. Make sure it is running. The only change i had to make was to get roots mail delivered to my normal account. That was an option in one of the postfix config file (in /etc/postfix/ iirc). It says something like: # who gets roots mail # root = marc uncomment, change the name and you are set. can also put in in /etc/postfix/aliases.
Re: [expert] more 8.0 nonsense
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Civileme wrote: /root/dedebug.log Civileme And here I go replying to my own post... We have used the install CD you did and then run an update-type install of 8.0 which would not of course affect any of the cooker packages on that first install but would flesh out the missing stuff with 8.0 standard packages. should i try this then? The problem with framebuffer remains--there are some cards and XFree drivers that just don't do it well at all. It does appear to be card-specific with some of the ATI series leading from behind. The framebuffer problem can be alleviated somewhat by not disturbing the default setings for console size. Some of the other problems are artifacts of snapshotting cooker which is never guaranteed not to make your computer burst into flames. XFS obviously we are experimenting with, with the cooperation of SGI, but please don't expect any cooker product ever to be stable. It is there to test features and discover and fix bugs and to discover the bugs created by the bugfixes. Cooker is NOT 8.0 ... It is already well beyond 8.0. i appreciate that, i really do. if i could just get rpmdrake working i'd be pretty happy (the problem with libcurl?)
Re: [expert] more 8.0 nonsense
At 03:41 PM 5/22/2001 -0700, Civileme wrote: Well either grab rpmdrake/software manager from cooker (we know this works) or try (strictly experimental) ldconfig -v | less to locate which library lincurl is in then cd (library path for libcurl) ln -s libcurl.so.2 libcurl.so.1 turns out libcurl wasn't present (dunno why). grabbed it from cooker and now rpmdrake doesn't complain anymore (can't test it for real yet, since i'm not at home).
[expert] rpmdrake update
Okay, so I went and downloaded libcurl2-7.7.3-1mdk and installed it. rpmdrake came up fine. I told it to update the list and it started printing out messages in my terminal window (since i launched it manually). Next thing I know, rpmdrake is gone, and i see this: * Connected to www.linux-mandrake.com (63.209.80.235) GET /mirrorsfull.list HTTP/1.1 Host: www.linux-mandrake.com Pragma: no-cache Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, */* * Connection (#0) left alive * Closing live connection (#0) updates: 'ftp.proxad.net' 'ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/updates/8.0/RPMS' 'with' '../base/hdlist.cz' --18:14:33-- ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/updates/8.0/descriptions = `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/.listing' Connecting to ftp.proxad.net:21... connected! Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == TYPE I ... done. == CWD pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/updates/8.0 ... done. == PASV ... done.== LIST ... done. 0K - 18:14:34 (7.97 KB/s) - `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/.listing' saved [253] Removed `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/.listing'. --18:14:34-- ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/updates/8.0/descriptions = `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/descriptions' == CWD not required. == PASV ... done.== RETR descriptions ... done. Length: 10,581 0K - .. [100%] 18:14:35 (36.90 KB/s) - `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/descriptions' saved [10581] --18:14:35-- ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/updates/8.0/base/hdlist.cz = `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/.listing' Connecting to ftp.proxad.net:21... connected! Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == TYPE I ... done. == CWD pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/updates/8.0/base ... done. == PASV ... done.== LIST ... done. 0K - 18:14:36 (4.96 KB/s) - `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/.listing' saved [66] Removed `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/.listing'. --18:14:36-- ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/updates/8.0/base/hdlist.cz = `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.cz' == CWD not required. == PASV ... done.== RETR hdlist.cz ... done. Length: 225,228 0K - .. .. .. .. .. [ 22%] 50K - .. .. .. .. .. [ 45%] 100K - .. .. .. .. .. [ 68%] 150K - .. .. .. .. .. [ 90%] 200K - .. . [100%] 18:14:38 (108.89 KB/s) - `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.cz' saved [225228] reading hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.ftp.proxad.net.cz] built hdlist synthesis file for medium ftp.proxad.net reading hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.CD 1 Cooker (cdrom1).cz] reading hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.CD 2 Cooker (cdrom2).cz] reading hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.CD 3 Cooker (cdrom3).cz] reading hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.ftp.proxad.net.cz] keeping only provides files reading hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.CD 1 Cooker (cdrom1).cz] computing dependancy reading hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.CD 2 Cooker (cdrom2).cz] computing dependancy reading hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.CD 3 Cooker (cdrom3).cz] computing dependancy reading hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.ftp.proxad.net.cz] computing dependancy write depslist file [/var/lib/urpmi/depslist.ordered] write provides file [/var/lib/urpmi/provides] write compss file [/var/lib/urpmi/compss] found 0 headers in cache removing 0 obsolete headers in cache write config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg] urpmi.addmedia returns with this value: 0 Segmentation fault (core dumped) *** Any ideas?
Re: [expert] rpmdrake update
hmmm, rpmdrake wanted libcurl.so.2, which i installed, but it seems grpmi wanted libcurl.so.1. a quick 'ln -s' and rpmdrake is chugging along...
Re: [expert] Western Digital Hard Drives?
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Civileme wrote: On Sunday 20 May 2001 11:15, Brian Hartman wrote: Hi, all. I'm considering upgrading my Mandrake, but I heard of the 8.0 beta that they were having trouble with Western Digital drives. I assume that they fixed the problem, but I just wanted to make sure. Brian Hartman In one sense it is fixed--it was a VIA chipset/WD combination problem--and in another sense it will never be fixed. WD drives lack essential hardware error-checking for UDMA3 and up, including ATA/66 and ATA/100. The result of this just plain stupid cost-cutting decision is that if the channel is noisy, the first inkling you have that the data is bad is when you cannot read it off the disk. Moreover, WD states at shows and elsewhere that their disks support windows and Solaris ONLY. Thanks for the info. I hadn't been aware of these issues. I had always had a good opinion of WD, but that's been changing lately :)
Re: [expert] more 8.0 nonsense
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Civileme wrote: On Sunday 20 May 2001 17:36, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: Mandrake Update was merged with rpmDrake in a new Software manager for 8.0 So how do I run rpmdrake? I tried and got this: [root@sphinx dswartz]# rpmdrake rpmdrake: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
Re: [expert] more 8.0 nonsense
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Civileme wrote: On Sunday 20 May 2001 17:36, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: so i try running MandrakeUpdate? on the theory that there might be updates since the ISO was burned. and? [root@sphinx dswartz]# MandrakeUpdate MandrakeUpdate: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory really, folks? does anyone even test this stuff before putting it out for public consumption? i'm sorry if i sound pissy, and i know cooker is not GA, but none of the bugs/issues i have seen since i did this install should ever have gotten past even a rudimentary QA effort (except possibly the pine/ping not being there by default). is it worth sticking with this? or should i just reinstall 7.2?[root@sphinx dswartz]# Mandrake Update was merged with rpmDrake in a new Software manager for 8.0 I have no idea how you tried to use mandrakeUpdate with 8.0--it isn't there. I typed MandrakeUpdate :) [root@sphinx dswartz]# MandrakeUpdate MandrakeUpdate: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
Re: [expert] more 8.0 nonsense
At 08:37 AM 5/21/2001 -0700, Larry Sword wrote: Civileme wrote: Mandrake Update was merged with rpmDrake in a new Software manager for 8.0 I have no idea how you tried to use mandrakeUpdate with 8.0--it isn't there. Civileme Yes, very interesting. :-) I have a fresh install on L-M 8.0 and find the following: /usr/bin/@MandrakeUpdate --/usr/bin/consolehelper and /usr/sbin/MandrakeUpdate SO how did it get there? Interesting and more interesting: [root@sphinx /root]# ls -l /usr/sbin/MandrakeUpdate -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 129472 Apr 17 11:49 /usr/sbin/MandrakeUpdate* [root@sphinx /root]# ls -l /usr/bin/MandrakeUpdate lrwxr-xr-x1 root root 27 May 20 17:07 /usr/bin/MandrakeUpdate - ../../usr/bin/consolehelper*
Re: [expert] more 8.0 nonsense
At 05:34 PM 5/21/2001 -0700, Civileme wrote: On Monday 21 May 2001 06:01, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: On Mon, 21 May 2001, Civileme wrote: On Sunday 20 May 2001 17:36, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: Mandrake Update was merged with rpmDrake in a new Software manager for 8.0 So how do I run rpmdrake? I tried and got this: [root@sphinx dswartz]# rpmdrake rpmdrake: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory OK there is something VERY wrong with your install of 8.0. I can type in either and up it comes. Try with the icons in KDE--if it doesn't work there, then you really need to properly install 8.0--let's see i did try the software package link in mandrake control center and it does nothing (probably because rpmdrake won't run). i have to admit after selecting packages, i did go and unselect a few i didn't want, but i should have been warned about breaking rpmdrake (so if that's it, there are probably broken dependencies). /root/dedebug.log i will send this to you offline. thx!
Re: [expert] RE: Word97 in Linux using Wine -- official word fromCodeweavers
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Ric Tibbetts wrote: The few instances where I've seen Office run at all on Linux under wine were: Dual boot machine (Win98/Linux). Office was installed on Win98. Machine was booted in Linux, with the Win98 partition mounted. Wine was running Office from the Win98 partition. I've seen this work, and I've had it working. But I'd not consider it nearly stable, nor complete enough to be production useable. If you really want to run Office from Linux, look into VMware. While not free, it's a far better alternative. better yet, use win4lin. doesn't do all the multimedia stuff quite right yet, but i routinely use it for quicken 2000, office suite, eudora, gravity news, etc... speed is as good as native windows 98...
[expert] Upgrade from 7.2 to 8.0 - some impressions
I've been running 7.2 for quite awhile (2.2.17 kernel). I've been wanting to try 8.0 for awhile and although I had been using reiserfs, I decided to give xfs a try (the folks at SGI having ported it to the 2.4 kernel). I still don't have everything working right, but here are some issues that came up (BTW, I was running the 2.4.3 Cooker ISO with the XFS patches/installer): 1. Although I specified my username for autologin, it doesn't (minor severity). 2. I got shot by the reiserfs incompatibility botch - since my /home was reiserfs, I had to do-si-do with a temporary ext2 filesystem and then copy things back (major severity). 3. Even though I told the installer use GRUB! it still installed lilo (and didn't make a boot floppy) - it took me some fiddling around to discover that the problem was that, although the kernel and the installer both support XFS, the GRUB on the ISO doesn't! And you get no indication of this until, having booted via lilo, you try to install grub and are told that the partition you told it to use has an unsupported filesystem type (major severity) [not the fault of mandrake]. 4. 4.0.3 X has the broken backing store setting (I think) - I tried switching consoles and got a blank screen, with garbage flickering at the bottom (medium severity). 5. Although I selected linuxconf in the packages list, it will not run, complaining about missing library libgd.so.1 (moderate severity). 6. Single user boot hangs at cleaning up /tmp (major severity). 7. I really like the feature since 7.2 where you can use the CDROM in rescue mode - too bad that the XFS patched CDROM doesn't support XFS in rescue mode - makes it impossible to mount the root FS (moderate severity) [not mandrake's fault]. 8. pine wasn't on CD #1 (don't have the other two), but elm was. I also noticed that traceroute was present, but not ping? That honestly doesn't make much sense, does it (very minor).
[expert] more 8.0 nonsense
so i try running MandrakeUpdate? on the theory that there might be updates since the ISO was burned. and? [root@sphinx dswartz]# MandrakeUpdate MandrakeUpdate: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory really, folks? does anyone even test this stuff before putting it out for public consumption? i'm sorry if i sound pissy, and i know cooker is not GA, but none of the bugs/issues i have seen since i did this install should ever have gotten past even a rudimentary QA effort (except possibly the pine/ping not being there by default). is it worth sticking with this? or should i just reinstall 7.2?
Re: [expert] SWAT on LM8.0
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Dave Peat wrote: Hello, I have SAMBA running (I ran smbclient aginst my machine) but I can't seem to get SWAT to run. I can't connect from the browser on that machine or any other. The services file looks correct. I think the problem is in xinetd. Can someone tell me where and what to check? are you connecting to https instead of http?
Re: [expert] Stability Concerns
At 02:08 PM 5/17/2001 -0400, J. Solomon Kostelnik wrote: Eric, I thought your message was a duplicate of mine (I just sent a couple days ago)! That's how similar my problem is. I'm also getting the freeze during bootup, in INIT, so I don't think it's solely KDE. Likewise, I have used RedHat in the past, with no problems, so I too doubt it's hardware. I can't figure it out. Let me know if you come up with anything. I'm thinking it may be the 2.4.3 kernel... dunno. i've been running 7.2 (2.2.17 kernel) and it's been rock-solid. i've been thinking of trying 8.0, but based on the reports i'm seeing, i don't think so (yet).
Re: [expert] 2 different reiserfs ?
On Sat, 12 May 2001, Lars Roland Kristiansen wrote: On Sat, 12 May 2001, Bjarne Thomsen wrote: Civileme: The reason you have difficulty now is that the version of reiserfs supplied with 8.0 does NOT work with 2.2 kernel, only the older version does. This is not the sort of thing you want to read when you have chosen mdk 7.2 and reiserfs in order to avoid very long fsck times on a box with 2 75 GB disks.. There are actually TWO different Reiser file systems! -- Bjarne Thomsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is not mandrake fault but the way reiserfs was developt (the new version witch is included in the 2.4 kernel series dosent work well with older reiserfs partitions) That's lovely. Backward compatibility is not an understood concept?
Re: [expert] Does any backup software work with Mandrake?
On Thu, 10 May 2001, Steve Bareman wrote: I have been trying various backup software for the last 6 weeks and haven't found anything the works on my servers yet. My servers are P4-1.3Ghz Linux Mandrake 8.0 Ultrium LTO tape P4-1.3Ghz Linux Mandrake 8.0 We've tried: Novanet screams along at 810 MB/min, but won't run on my box without the tape drive. Arkeia will back up all my servers, but only gets about 110MB/min. BRU-Pro will back up all my server, but crawls at 7K/s. They are blaming the tape drive firmware. (yes, the same tape drive that does 810MB/min with Novanet.) Perfect Backup - won't even install. Arcserve for linux - no downloadable eval and my cd ordered from their web page never came (4 weeks and counting). So, anyone got any ideas on how to backup my Mandrake 8.0 servers? Amanda
Re: [expert] Does any backup software work with Mandrake?
On Thu, 10 May 2001, Steve Bareman wrote: I have been trying various backup software for the last 6 weeks and haven't found anything the works on my servers yet. My servers are P4-1.3Ghz Linux Mandrake 8.0 Ultrium LTO tape P4-1.3Ghz Linux Mandrake 8.0 We've tried: Novanet screams along at 810 MB/min, but won't run on my box without the tape drive. Arkeia will back up all my servers, but only gets about 110MB/min. BRU-Pro will back up all my server, but crawls at 7K/s. They are blaming the tape drive firmware. (yes, the same tape drive that does 810MB/min with Novanet.) Perfect Backup - won't even install. Arcserve for linux - no downloadable eval and my cd ordered from their web page never came (4 weeks and counting). So, anyone got any ideas on how to backup my Mandrake 8.0 servers? Amanda.
Re: [expert] reiserfs 1 more time
At 05:28 PM 5/8/2001 +0200, Sirkka wrote: Hi I send this q again... I use Mdk 8.0 and use reiserfs on all my partisions (not swap) When i compile the kernel i cant get it to boot, it says something like cant mount root fs Ok...i know that i do something wrong but i dont know what. I compile reiserfs=module is that right? (someone told me to that) Most i have support for ext2 in kernel or can i load in a module when i have all my partisions in reiserfs? When im compiling i do make menuconfig make dep make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install make install (but i have even tryed to not make install and copy the bzimage to boot and mv it to /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.3-20mdk Ok...is this right? Then when booting up the system...nope cant mount root fs Arghhh the problem (i believe) is that your initial ramdisk image (in /boot) doesn't have reiserfs support.
Re: [expert] Kernel 2.2.19 fails to compile
At 09:19 PM 5/5/2001 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: Hi I upgarded my Mandrake 7.2 system to the 2.2.19 kernel but had to return to 2.2.17 as some modules needed by my system were not present. I have just tried to compile a custom kernel and xconfig, menuconfig etc all die with two missing parts. One is net/ipsec/Config.in from freeswan which I grabbed a copy of, but this failed to satisfy it (still looks for freeswan-1.8 - will have to find another copy somewhere)and its also looking for something called security/Common.in which doesnt exist except in the config file. None of the menu programs for the kernel will run. make old-config, make mrproper etc does not clear the error. I was able to compile previous custom kernels on this system with no problems. I think I am missing a package that should have been installed that wasnt present on the older kernel - but which one? This is the same issue I reported a couple of weeks ago.
Re: [expert] OT: Web based BIND Manager
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Devin Rader wrote: Can anyone recommend a web based BIND manager? webmin has a nice bind8 module.
Re: [expert] Firewall / Router Advice
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Martyn Wendon wrote: So far I've fitted 2 network cards in the Linux box, eth0 is 172.18.9.100 and is connected to the router and eth1 is 172.18.9.101 and is connected to the hub of the internal network. I've enabled routing in linuxconf, and the default gateway is set at 172.18.9.30, at this point from this Linux box I assumed that I would be able to a:) ping the other machines on my network and b:) be able to ping the router / internet. But I can only ping the router and the internet, not the internal network. I also assumed (wrongly?) that I'd still be able to ping the router / internet from the rest of the machines. So now I'm a little stuck - too many years of plug and pray with Microsoft have taken their toll! you need to put the two interfaces in different subnets.
Re: [expert] Swap root on same partition
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, faisal gillani wrote: Can we mount both swap partition / partition on the same HDD partition ? I mean to say like i do this on FreeBSD that only specify 1 partition it automatically create swap partition in it ? no. bsd has another layer conceptually. they have slices and partitions, whereas linux only has the one. not sure why you need to do this, since it doesn't really gain anything.
Re: [expert] Upgrading MDK7.2 to MDK8.0 with qmail installed
At 05:38 PM 4/26/2001 -0700, Todd Lyons wrote: Dan Swartzendruber wrote: At 04:37 PM 4/26/2001 -0700, John Wolford wrote: As I find qmail more secure and faster (and other things...) then sendmail or postfix, wouldn't Mandrakesoft include it in their distributions? for my edification: why is qmail more secure than postfix? IMHO any version that has existed that for 5 years and has never had a root exploit is very secure. Postfix is good, but it doesn't have the longevity yet. In a couple years once it has not had any root exploits, then you can contest John's comments. Until then, look for root exploits in qmail :) to give you more leg to stand on. whoa, trigger. i wasn't contesting anything. he made a blanket statement about sendmail and postfix. we all know sendmail has been a major problem over the years, but i had never heard anything about postfix. when someone makes a sweeping statement like that, the burden is on them, not me.
Re: [expert] Upgrading MDK7.2 to MDK8.0 with qmail installed
At 04:37 PM 4/26/2001 -0700, John Wolford wrote: As I find qmail more secure and faster (and other things...) then sendmail or postfix, wouldn't Mandrakesoft include it in their distributions? for my edification: why is qmail more secure than postfix?
Re: [expert] 8.0 final --brakes MANY applications (Software Installeris first on that list)
Vincent, any update on the kernel source build issue I raised over the weekend?
Re: [expert] 8.0 final --brakes MANY applications (Software Installeris first on that list)
At 11:49 AM 4/25/2001 -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: On Wed Apr 25, 2001 at 01:21:52PM -0400, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: Vincent, any update on the kernel source build issue I raised over the weekend? Not yet. I'm waiting for someone to get back to me on this issue, but I have a few other updates occupying my time at the moment so it may take a little bit. Hopefully by the end of the week or next week. Sorry, it's going to entail rebuilding all the kernels (again) and testing them all (again) so it may take some time, although what we may try doing is just updating the kernel-source package and leaving everything else as is since that all works fine. thanks!
Re: [expert] 8.0 final --brakes MANY applications (Software Installeris first on that list)
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Mark Weaver wrote: Todd... What's wrong with Maxtor? Thats what I'm running now. in fact, that's all I've ever run with Linux. I've got two of them in my Mandrake 7.2 box here at home. 13GB and 3.5GB. this things runs for months at a time without any hiccups. I've got another machine that's an older Dell with a Quantum Fireball in it that's a screamer. but I love my Maxtors. ymmv. the only two head crashed drives i ever had were both maxtor :(
Re: [expert] problem upgrading to 2.2.19?
At 11:17 PM 4/21/2001 -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: On Sat Apr 21, 2001 at 09:14:04PM -0400, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: I've been running 7.2 for a couple of months now (2.2.17). Yesterday, while doing the MandrakeUpdate, it told me 2.2.19 was available and recommended, due to a number of security issues. I did the update of the kernel, sources, etc. Now, several hours later, I've finally managed to restore my system to usability (back on 2.2.17). Issues that came up: 1. The kernel source tree was unusable. Attempts to do menuconfig failed due to tk segv'ing. Attempts to do xconfig failed due to a number of (apparently) missing config files pertaining to ipsec and other security things. I'm not sure what this is about. I've asked the fellow (Matthias) who did most of the build work for the kernel about it but, considering it's the weekend, we might have to wait a bit to find out if something is missing or something was included wrong. I did finally get a build by doing 'make config' and scrolling through manually. ugh :) 2. I've been running 100% reiserfs since the 2nd day on 2.2.17, and was chagrined to discover that the 2.2.19 package apparently didn't include a 2.2.19 initrd image, and attempting to use the 2.2.17 image didn't work, since the reiserfs module wouldn't load under the 2.2.19 kernel, so the root FS couldn't load. I managed to get around this by uncompressing the 2.2.17 image, loopback mounting it, copying in a 2.2.19 reiserfs module, etc... You didn't follow instructions then. You need to execute: mkinitrd --ifneeded /boot/initrd-2.2.19-4.1mdk.img 2.2.19-4.1mdk What instructions? I did the upgrade via MandrakeUpdate, which didn't show me anything about special instructions. If I'm not supposed to do kernel updates via MandrakeUpdate, I didn't know that yesterday. Live and learn I guess... Now you have your initrd image. 3. Apparently as part of the rpm "upgrade", my 2.2.17 kernel source tree was rendered unusable. i.e. makefiles, etc were removed so that I couldn't even build a new 2.2.17 kernel or modules. If you upgraded the kernel-source package, then yes, the 2.2.17 sources would have been removed. If you *installed* the 2.2.19 kernel-source package, then you would have both installed. But it didn't just remove them - it left the linux-2.2.17 source tree, but it was all munged up. As far as upgrading vs installing, I wasn't aware I had an option (vis-a-vis MandrakeUpdate). I just checked the update again, and now I'm seeing a warning at the front of the description for the 2.2.19 kernel stuff about not using MandrakeUpdate. I don't remember seeing that yesterday, was that added since then? It certainly seems like a good idea, given what can happen... 4. One of my older IDE drives started having odd messages printed out (about timeouts and such) - never a problem under 2.2.17. No idea what this is, but I get some extraneous messages under 2.2.19 as well (such as messages regarding parallel ports, etc.). Well, these were kind of scary, since this is the drive /home is mounted on. #4 may be a random (harmless?) bug. #3 might have conceivably have been something I did wrong (don't see how, though, as all of the 2.2.17 /lib/modules stuff was also deleted as part of the "upgrade". Right. Because you *upgraded*. Upgrades do not keep things from older packages. When you upgrade kernel-sources-2.2.17 to kernel-sources-2.2.19 you are in essence uninstalling 2.2.17 and installing 2.2.19. sorry if i was unclear. obviously i didn't expect the /lib/modules stuff to still be around - i mentioned it as evidence that i had done the upgrade as i had thought. again, i didn't understand why the source tree was partly still there. #2 sounds like a build booboo (if you're upgrading a system from 2.2.17 to 2.2.19, most likely the modules in the old initrd image won't be usable by the new kernel, no?) No, and they're not supposed to be. You're supposed to read instructions or know enough to check for the presence of a valid initrd.img and build it if it doesn't exist. FYI, you only need the initrd if you use reiserfs on your / partition. Otherwise you will not need it. I *did* check for its presence. When I saw there wasn't one, I assumed there were no problems (obviously wrong on my part). What you are missing is this: there is a chickenegg problem in doing this as you describe. As soon as I do the download of the 2.2.19 kernel stuff, the 2.2.17 modules are gone, including the loopback.o module, which I need to create the new initrd image. At this point, I'm still running on the 2.2.17 kernel, so the 2.2.19 loopback.o module won't do me any good. If I try to boot from the new 2.2.19 kernel, I can't mount the root filesystem. #1 is just plain bogus. Didn't anyone do basic regression testing before releasing t
[expert] problem upgrading to 2.2.19?
I've been running 7.2 for a couple of months now (2.2.17). Yesterday, while doing the MandrakeUpdate, it told me 2.2.19 was available and recommended, due to a number of security issues. I did the update of the kernel, sources, etc. Now, several hours later, I've finally managed to restore my system to usability (back on 2.2.17). Issues that came up: 1. The kernel source tree was unusable. Attempts to do menuconfig failed due to tk segv'ing. Attempts to do xconfig failed due to a number of (apparently) missing config files pertaining to ipsec and other security things. 2. I've been running 100% reiserfs since the 2nd day on 2.2.17, and was chagrined to discover that the 2.2.19 package apparently didn't include a 2.2.19 initrd image, and attempting to use the 2.2.17 image didn't work, since the reiserfs module wouldn't load under the 2.2.19 kernel, so the root FS couldn't load. I managed to get around this by uncompressing the 2.2.17 image, loopback mounting it, copying in a 2.2.19 reiserfs module, etc... 3. Apparently as part of the rpm upgrade, my 2.2.17 kernel source tree was rendered unusable. i.e. makefiles, etc were removed so that I couldn't even build a new 2.2.17 kernel or modules. 4. One of my older IDE drives started having odd messages printed out (about timeouts and such) - never a problem under 2.2.17. #4 may be a random (harmless?) bug. #3 might have conceivably have been something I did wrong (don't see how, though, as all of the 2.2.17 /lib/modules stuff was also deleted as part of the upgrade. #2 sounds like a build booboo (if you're upgrading a system from 2.2.17 to 2.2.19, most likely the modules in the old initrd image won't be usable by the new kernel, no?) #1 is just plain bogus. Didn't anyone do basic regression testing before releasing this???
Re: [expert] /proc/kcore - getting big
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Andrew Judge wrote: I was looking at my file system and noticed that the /proc/kcore file was getting pretty big and taking up alot of space. What can I do to get the size down and won't blowup my machine? Can I delete it then touch the file? I was also a little curious what the file is for. that isn't a real file. none of the files in /proc/kcore are. don't worry about it.
Re: [expert] /proc/kcore - getting big
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Eric Krout wrote: It should be removeable, considering it's just a core dump of sorts. This is incorrect.
Re: [expert] help: ext2 superblock disk problems
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Daniel Woods wrote: Your partitions may have changed. Try mounting different partitions, looking for boot. # mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt EXT2-fs: 03:0a: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features. mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1 or too many mounted filesystems. That's what I was already trying, to mount ANY linux partition at /mnt. In this case hda1 is /boot partition. The problem is that e2fsck reports unable to fsck partitions. here's a possibility: i have noticed that if you change the partition table, trying to create filesystems on the newly added partitions doesn't tend to work. have you tried rebooting and then remaking the filesystem?
Re[2]: [expert] problem running sound as non-root user?
At 08:42 AM 4/4/2001 -0700, you wrote: Dan Swartzendruber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, David E.Fox wrote: On Monday 02 April 2001 17:06, you wrote: You could circumvent the issue and just chmod 666 your audio device files (/dev/audio, /dev/sequencer, /dev/dsp etc.) if you don't expect someone telnetting in and sending stuff out your sound card in the middle of the night and waking you up :). my machine is secure, so that isn't an issue. Well, actually, if you have a microphone hooked up to your sound card, you could have someone telnet in and *listen* to you, which may be more of an issue... But if your machine is secure, never mind - I just wanted others to think about the OTHER direction... good point. remember the SunOS bug years back? the workstations with integrated microphones, and Sun's default install made the microphone device world readable?
Re: [expert] weirdness with linuxconf
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, John Wolford wrote: Hi Dan, Are you comfortable doing a little work from the command line interface? Fire up a konsole, switch user to root (if you're not root already), and then you can configure it a few different ways. So go like this: well, i've been using unix since 1978, so i'm not afraid of the command line, no :) 1. Get to a command line: open a console, etc 2. Change to root if you're not already root: [john@homer john]$ su Password: [root@homer john]# 3. You can activate it with chkconfig. Read the manpage and then it will go something like this, as an example: [root@homer john]# chkconfig smb on [root@homer john]# 4. You can also fire up a menu-based configuration utility, ntsysv: [root@homer john]# ntsysv I don't use linuxconf, so i can't help you with why it's not working. But neither of the methods i just mentioned has EVER failed me. As for multiple instances of a service being listed, i know that the services that are started/stopped are all in various subdirectories of /etc/rc.d - for example the services that are started up when you have your box to boot into X automatically (runlevel 5) are located in /etc/rc.d/rc5.d (hence the runlevel 5). Those with an S get started when that particular runlevel is started, and those with a K get killed when that particular runlevel is started. i'll take a look at ntsysv, thanks...
[expert] weirdness with linuxconf
For some reason, samba wasn't starting at bootload, so I check in the linuxconf services. It's listed as "manual" and not running. So I click on the Automatic button for it, do Accept and leave. Later, for some reason, I went back and was looking at some services, and happened to see the entry for Smb. Guess what? It still says "Manual"? I experimented with several other services and discovered the same thing. Also, for some reason, there are two entries for Imap. This has gotten more than a little frustrating, I must say. I don't remember running into any of these issues when I was running 6.1. Some of these issues seem like basic QA oversights.
RE: [expert] weirdness with linuxconf
At 10:46 AM 4/3/2001 -0400, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: Linuxconf handles this differently than ntsysv. If you use Linuxconf you must ENABLE Linuxconf itself running at boot. Linuxconf reads from the /etc/conf.linuxconf file to then determine what it's supposed to do, which includes turning on those services. If on the other hand you are using ntsysv, then this fouls up Linuxconf's way of doing things... ntsysv uses the usual symlinks... this is frustrating. i hadn't done anything with linuxconf that i'm aware of. it does print messages at bootload about running linuxconf hooks.
Re: [expert] weirdness with linuxconf
At 09:25 AM 4/3/2001 -0400, you wrote: Have you tried setting this to start at boot using Start Services in Drakeconf yet? no, i hadn't. i was trying to use the existing (at 6.1) mechanism - linuxconf. is there some reason to prefer one over the other?
Re: [expert] ping, ping, doesn't ping
At 09:24 AM 4/3/2001 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am tryint o reconnect my home LAN but I can't getmy machines to ping each other. Everything is fine. IP configuration is right, HUB is working, cables are new and connected. Don;t know what the problem may be? what does 'route -n' show? i've had problems in the past with changing IP addresses via linuxconf and having the ifconfig info change, but not the routing table.
Re: [expert] ping, ping, doesn't ping
At 11:57 AM 4/3/2001 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried that and each machine can ping itseld and gets responses, but can't ping the other machine. In other words, win95 can ping itself but not linux and linux can ping itself but not win95. and the routing tables?
Re: [expert] ping, ping, doesn't ping
At 12:15 PM 4/3/2001 -0700, you wrote: how do I get those? is the route command? route -n
RE: [expert] problem running sound as non-root user?
At 08:50 AM 4/2/01 -0400, Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN wrote: For my SB Live, and Mdk 8.0b2 I had to change the perms on mpg123, and for kde sounds enter play in the use external player field in kde's control center. Xmms is using OSS driver entry. change the perms to what?
RE: [expert] problem running sound as non-root user?
At 09:34 AM 4/2/2001 -0400, Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN wrote: For mpg123 I made mine 777 since it is only an audio player I don't understand. Why are the permissions on the executable important? I can run the program, it just doesn't have access to the audio device (it seems). Unless it's supposed to be SUID or something. Brian -Original Message- From: Dan Swartzendruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 9:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] problem running sound as non-root user? At 08:50 AM 4/2/01 -0400, Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN wrote: For my SB Live, and Mdk 8.0b2 I had to change the perms on mpg123, and for kde sounds enter play in the use external player field in kde's control center. Xmms is using OSS driver entry. change the perms to what?
Re: [expert] problem running sound as non-root user?
At 09:41 AM 4/2/2001 -0700, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote: The proper solution to this problem is to add your USERNAME to the AUDIO group. Don't change perms. ah, i'll give it a try, thanks. dunno why it doesn't work some installs and not others. oh well...
Re: [expert] problem running sound as non-root user?
At 09:41 AM 4/2/01 -0700, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote: The proper solution to this problem is to add your USERNAME to the AUDIO group. Don't change perms. didn't help :(
Re: [expert] problem running sound as non-root user?
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, David E.Fox wrote: On Monday 02 April 2001 17:06, you wrote: At 09:41 AM 4/2/01 -0700, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote: The proper solution to this problem is to add your USERNAME to the AUDIO group. Don't change perms. I'm surprised no one has mentioned the permissions on the audio devices themselves. What, for instance, are the permissions on /dev/dsp? If it's set to (for example) -rw-- root audio then no wonder you can't use the device as a non-root user. You could circumvent the issue and just chmod 666 your audio device files (/dev/audio, /dev/sequencer, /dev/dsp etc.) if you don't expect someone telnetting in and sending stuff out your sound card in the middle of the night and waking you up :). my machine is secure, so that isn't an issue. It probably is more sensible to add yourself to the audio group and make the sound device files owned by that group. But you said it didn't work for you. But, what were the permissions set to? If you didn't set them to 640 (i.e., -rw-rw--' then you wouldn't have been able to access them even if you did change the group info. bizarre. i didn't change anything and now it works :(
[expert] daylight savings time?
Maybe I'm missing something? I've done a couple of installs of 7.2 and it doesn't seem to automatically handle daylight savings time. I don't recall seeing anything (even in expert mode install) pertaining to this. It was really annoying, since everytime I rebooted, any initial file activity (until rdate ran in rc.local) would cause files to be timestamped an hour off. Any ideas?
RE: [expert] daylight savings time?
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: You need to 1) Make sure your CMOS clock is set to GMT 2) Make sure you have set up your time zone correctly... 7.2 updated it's clock just fine this morning... it had no problems with daylight savings... You also might want to sync it to the time standard sites as well (this is set in Linuxconf). I did that. That was the only way to get it not to be off by an hour immediately after booting. For some reason, when the time changed this morning, it bumped forward another hour. As far as #1 and #2, I remember being asked about GMT, but there was no indication I should do that, so I said no. Vis #2, I thought it was set up right...
Re: [expert] daylight savings time?
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, John J. LeMay Jr. wrote: ** Reply to message from Dan Swartzendruber [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 01 Apr 2001 10:23:42 -0400 Maybe I'm missing something? I've done a couple of installs of 7.2 and it doesn't seem to automatically handle daylight savings time. I don't recall seeing anything (even in expert mode install) pertaining to this. It was really annoying, since everytime I rebooted, any initial file activity (until rdate ran in rc.local) would cause files to be timestamped an hour off. Any ideas? Perhaps you are not setting the "adjust for daylight savings" option during the install? I'm not sure where to change this post-install however. I don't remember seeing this during the install. Hmmm My only complaint with the handling of daylight savings is that only the system time is changed. I then need to manually adjust the hardware clock to reflect the new time.
Re: [expert] daylight savings time?
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, John J. LeMay Jr. wrote: ** Reply to message from Dan Swartzendruber [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 01 Apr 2001 10:23:42 -0400 Maybe I'm missing something? I've done a couple of installs of 7.2 and it doesn't seem to automatically handle daylight savings time. I don't recall seeing anything (even in expert mode install) pertaining to this. It was really annoying, since everytime I rebooted, any initial file activity (until rdate ran in rc.local) would cause files to be timestamped an hour off. Any ideas? Perhaps you are not setting the "adjust for daylight savings" option during the install? I'm not sure where to change this post-install however. My only complaint with the handling of daylight savings is that only the system time is changed. I then need to manually adjust the hardware clock to reflect the new time. i did go to linuxconf and under date/time and set the GMT flag and the rdate server i use.
[expert] problem running sound as non-root user?
this is driving me nuts. for reasons not relevant here, i have done a reinstall of 7.2 4 times in the last 24 hours. some of the time, as a non-root user, i can play mp3's. the rest of the time (using the mpg123 program), i get a "permission denied" error. not aware of having done anything sound-related during or after the install.
Re: [expert] problem running sound as non-root user?
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Chris Spackman wrote: On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 06:56:54PM -0400, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: this is driving me nuts. for reasons not relevant here, i have done a reinstall of 7.2 4 times in the last 24 hours. some of the time, as a non-root user, i can play mp3's. the rest of the time (using the mpg123 program), i get a "permission denied" error. not aware of having done anything sound-related during or after the install. Just a thought, but have you tried any other programs for sound? Like play or xmms, etc? I only ask because I had some problems with mpg123 when i first installed 7.2. Sound was working fine, it was mpg123 that was having problems. hmmm, no. i didn't happen to have any other mpeg players loaded at the time (i don't think). i'll see, thanks...
Re: [expert] problem running sound as non-root user?
At 08:22 AM 4/2/01 +0900, Chris Spackman wrote: On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 06:56:54PM -0400, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: this is driving me nuts. for reasons not relevant here, i have done a reinstall of 7.2 4 times in the last 24 hours. some of the time, as a non-root user, i can play mp3's. the rest of the time (using the mpg123 program), i get a "permission denied" error. not aware of having done anything sound-related during or after the install. Just a thought, but have you tried any other programs for sound? Like play or xmms, etc? I only ask because I had some problems with mpg123 when i first installed 7.2. Sound was working fine, it was mpg123 that was having problems. no joy. mpegplay also fails: "No available audio device"
Re: [expert] DSL -- internetconnect
At 12:43 PM 3/31/00 +1000, duncan wrote: Hi all, I have just finished a 7.0 server install in San Francisco via phone from Sydney (not a fun experience). The server is used as a fileserver, firewall and internet connection via normal phone line for a small 10 person office. The good news is I have it working quite nicely and can access it remotely. The next big task is to change the connection from a standard dial up connection to a DSL connection from internetconect.com I have installed 2 network cards, one for internal and one for external dsl connection. I have not got much of a clue about DSL as it is not availible in Australia. Can someone point me in the right direction on how to configure this connection? depends on the interface. if it's an ethernet interface, it'll either be bridged, in which case you treat it like any DHCP dynamic interface, or it might use PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet). There are several clients for linux. Search for 'em.
Re: [expert] Re-installing LILO after Win98
At 10:11 AM 03/27/2000 -0800, Mage Grimau wrote: I'm trying to get my machine to dual-boot Win98 and linux. After I install linux (have to do it first or the partitioning doesn't work right) I installed Win98. Then I tried to use my linux boot disk to reload LILO, but it says "/dev/hda1 has no boot record" and quits without doing anything useful. /dev/hda1 is the 7M partition I mount as /boot. I assume I'm doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what (besides adding Win98, that is). If you have an emergency boot floppy, boot from it. It will boot with the boot disk as the floppy, but the root as your hard drive. When you're up and logged in, do '/sbin/lilo'.
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
I just want to reemphasize that I wasn't intending to flame anyone. But my point remains. When linux was a totally ad-hoc thing, there was an excuse for this kind of thing. Now, with companies like mandrake building and shipping distros, I sometimes wonder if there is even a pretense at quality control. I don't think mandrake is any worse than redhat, caldera or whoever, and I don't expect bottomless, free maintenance, but I do expect something close to stable. I haven't tried 7.02, but from what I heard, the initial 7.0 was absolutely terrible, in terms of quality. I know there are limited man-hours to do a new release, but if I had a choice, I'd opt for some larger chunk to be spent on QA as opposed to neat new features. I haven't played with other distros before, so I have no idea how they stack up against mandrake on this issue.
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
At 10:35 AM 3/22/00 +, ron peake wrote: Dan In my opinion you have made your arguments well and almost everyone can agree with you on at least some, if not all, of your points. Having worked in RD for almost 30 years I can understand the technician's quest for perfection. But the sad truth is, it is not obtainable, or at least not at a price that the consumer will pay. So a compromise is necessary between the need to obtain a return on expenditures and the quality of the shipped product. As long as the customer knows what trade-offs were made (newer kernels, emphasis on newer hardware etc) and if serious problems are acknowledged and then rectified by the product manufacturer rather quickly, then in my opinion it is difficult, perhaps even unfair, to complain very much. I agree. I have to say though, since I use mandrake in a production environment, I am not too crazy about upgrading from 6.1 at this point.
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
I have to say I see Sean's POV (although he may have stated the case a little strongly). I do Sw maintenance for a living, and in my business, if something worked in Rev X, and doesn't work in Rev X+1, that is a bug. Specifically, a regression, since someone broke code/functionality that used to work. I understand their desire to get the product out the door, but at some point, quality has to be at least a secondary priority.
Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
At 09:12 AM 03/21/2000 -0800, Tom Berkley wrote: Sean I cannot relate at all to what you are talking about. After 1 year playing with linux and using five different distros, I use Mandrake 7.0 (GL edition) on both my laptop and my dual celeron smp box with only one problem that I had to work around. Mandrake 7.0 is a stud muffin linux and if you cannot get it to work, then you probably did not pay any attention to the hardware compatibility issues. Learn more and quit venting your frustrations here. There is a LOT of documentation and you have a lot of reading ahead of you. Tom. see my response on this. I am sorry, your attitude is a major reason linux has never had a major amount of commercial market share (and as long as the linux vendors have this same attitude, commercial users will stay away in droves). I'm not trying to flame anyone here, but if my Foobar CDROM worked in rev 6.1, there is no excuse for it suddenly not working in Rev 7.0 (unless it is something that was explicitly deprecated). This kind of nonsense happens all the time in the linux world (and is the major reason the ISP I work with switched from linux to freebsd 2 years ago).
Re: [expert] duplicate cron jobs?
At 09:07 AM 03/20/2000 -0600, Bug Hunter wrote: send an exact copy of your cron job. I once had an extra * in the cron job time list, and it tried to run every script in my home directory. DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall. # (/tmp/crontab.17278 installed on Sun Mar 19 12:02:37 2000) # (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp $) */5 * * * * /usr/bin/mrtg /home/httpd/html/mrtg/mrtg.cfg
[expert] duplicate cron jobs?
Has anyone noticed duplicate cron jobs being run? It doesn't happen all the time, so it may not have been noticed by me until I installed mrtg (which runs a root cron job every 5 minutes). At first, I thought it was a bug with mrtg, since the error email complained that the mrtg lockfile already existed, but everything seemed to be working anyway. I then added MAILTO="devnull" (where devnull is a bit-bucket alias). Oddly, I still seem to get messages from root, despite the fact that the MAILTO line says not to send to root! It's almost like crond is running a second instance at the same time, but screwing up some of the info (like the MAILTO line). I am running mandrake 6.1.
Re: [expert] VMware for Linux -- sound device path?
At 05:20 PM 3/19/00 -0500, John Aldrich wrote: On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote: Dear friends: A simple question, please: What is the path for the sound device in VMware for Linux. I found out from a kind list member that the path for the modem is: /dev/ttyS1 and he was absolutely right. It was a little breakthrough that made my day. It immediately launched my modem and connected to the Internet. Is there a similar simple statement for the path for the sound? I have tried everything and I just can't figure it out. Chances are it's probably /dev/dsp. Or /dev/mixer. I think later versions of RedHat have changed it to /dev/soundcard and other versions of KDE look for /dev/sound. I'm using mandrake 6.1, and /dev/dsp is it for me.
Re: [expert] Still got my CD burner woes, help please
At 12:50 PM 03/14/2000 -0600, Bug Hunter wrote: On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Joseph S. Gardner wrote: Hehe, I got me a ton of them coasters, usually from someone called Aol something or another (must be foreign). Gonna start making wind chimes out of them. Try this. Take one Aol coaster, turn upside down and place in microwave oven. Put on about 30 seconds (more or less depending upon the power of your microwave oven). A good light show ensues. If you play too long, the oven fills with burning plastic fumes, be careful! 10 works well for me. you get neat moire patterns in the aluminized layer from the eddy currents...
Re: [expert] Need help Closing Open Ports
At 01:06 PM 3/12/00 -0800, Richard Yevchak wrote: On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, you wrote: I have a similar problem. Have you found a solution? Also how hard is it to set up Port Sentry on Mandrake? Do you incure any problems or was it pretty straight forward? set up ipchains. look at www.linux-firewall-tools.com. Has a great wizard you can walk through the services you want and it will generate the rc.firewall script for you.
Re: [expert] Blocking Banner ads
I couldn't get squid_redirect to work for me. Half the pages I went to, nothing displayed. After a bit, nothing at all would work, and I saw messages in the logfile about "too many queued redirector processes". Did I miss something that needed changing?
Re: [expert] LM 7.0 SCSI Install
At 02:10 PM 03/02/2000 -0500, Ronald J. Yacketta wrote: clearly it seems that my problem must be the free old as sin adaptec I have. any recomendations out there for a solid scsi UW card? rather cheap? not likeing the 250$ tag on the 2490UW i'm using the tekram UW (don't remember the model. cost me about $70).
Re: [expert] LM 7.0 SCSI Install
At 01:32 PM 03/01/2000 -0500, John Aldrich wrote: On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, you wrote: Ron, Just install as follows. (you can vary it after the swap and / partitions.) sda1 - swap, 110M. sda2 - / (root) 400M sda3 - /usr 3000M sda4 - extended partion for remainder of hd sda5 - /home (whatever amount) sda6 - /opt (same as above) -- etc, you might want a seperate /var, etc. Basically, it depends on what your going to do with the system. (workstation, server, etc.) The key is the first 2 partitions, notice how they reside within the hd limit. ;) No. The problem is that the kernel doesn't have the SCSI drivers compiled as part of the kernel, they are MODULAR. If they kernel doesn't know how to "talk SCSI" how is it going to read the rest of the files it needs to boot? this is not an issue (i don't believe) if linux knew this when it did the install, since the appropriate scsi driver would have been load in the ramdisk image...
Re: [expert] LM 7.0 SCSI Install
At 01:31 PM 03/01/2000 -0500, John Aldrich wrote: On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, you wrote: Hello All!! I have don tons and tons and tons of linux installs (from Slackware to RH and now LM) on local IDE drives (hda/hdb etc..) I am currently seeking info on how to get LM installed on a 9gb SCSI drive. I am able to boot the cdrom, load my scsi drive, see my scsi disks install the os to the scsi disk, install lilo. when I reboot I get the infamous "LI" and wham it hangs, nothing more and nothing less. What am I missing here? could this be the 1024 cylinder problem? if so, resolutions? ( I know, go ahead and flame me with read the HOW-TO's etc..) The default kernel does NOT have the scsi drivers built-in. You have to either hand-compile a kernel or make a boot disk and ALWAYS boot off that floppy. this doesn't sound right to me. i'm pretty sure i've seen it put the scsi driver in a ramdisk image that lilo loads. maybe this depends on the distro/release?
Re: [expert] problems with masquerading and NT services
At 03:23 PM 02/28/2000 +, James Lewis wrote: The Outlook clients, and the Interdev Clients work for a few minutes, then report constant time outs, or 'Network Unavailable' type errors - (however other utils such as Internet explorer carry on working fine). Outlook starts working again after a few retries, and Interdev must be closed and reopened before it works again. It seems like ports are being held open, or not closed properly or something like that - although thats just a random uneducated guess. Is anything logged on the exchange box that might shed light?
Re: [expert] ftp
At 04:41 PM 01/28/2000 -0600, lee binkley wrote: Dan Swartzendruber wrote: At 07:24 PM 01/28/2000 +, lee binkley wrote: I am having problems uploading a file to my ftp site. And we should do what? How do you know if your ftp is setup are not. ? I can log in , The system tell me unavle to upload file. Try posting a message with actual details in it. The original 1 line message was useless to anyone who might have wanted to help you.
Re: [expert] Apartment network wishlist
At 06:38 PM 2/27/00 +0100, Adam Skogman wrote: I WANT: 1) The linux server to be the gate to the external net, posing as web/ftp/file/ssh-server. 2) The windows machine to be able to use ICQ etc. with it's own IP. How do I do this? I probably need another NIC, but that's ok. But will the passing of traffic through the linux machine pose any problems, like ICQ not beeing able to connect (I've seen this happen when behind firewalls). Without buying more equipment about the best you can do is change the gateway of the windows box to the linux box and set the linuxbox to forward for it. Now your windows machine will send everything direct to the linux machine instead of haveing to go thru the schools routers. Wait a sec, if I do this, then the traffic from the linux to the windows machine still uses the bandwidth of the external net and is still unprotected (can be snooped). Or am I wrong? I want to be able to communicate between the two machines without this traffic leaking onto the external net. Like you said, put a second nic in the linux box, and connect it to the winblows box with a crossover ethernet cable.
Re: [expert] problems with masquerading and NT services
At 10:43 PM 2/27/00 +, James Lewis wrote: I have 3 NT workstations on an internal LAN, going through ipmasq (on 2.2.13) which is providing NAT. General services such as web browsing, FTP etc, are working fine but we are experiencing very annoying problems with Microsoft Outlook 2000 (running in 'Corporate Workgroup mode) running on the 'Internal' machines connecting to an External Exchange server with a public IP. The problems seem to be because the exchange server is seeing requests from 3 different machines coming from the single IP address of the NAT machine (the problems more or less go away when there is only one machine running internally). The same problem is arising with Visual Interdev running internally, connecting to an external SQL server. Anyone had the same problem? Is there a way around it, that doesn't involve moving the exchange server to the Internal LAN? This is peculiar. I have a client who is doing the same thing (well, the NAT is being done by a cisco router between internal and external LANs), and they have no problems getting to the exchange server. Can you be more specific about what the problems are?
Re: [expert] Finally Upgrading, YAY! Slightly OT
At 11:03 PM 2/24/00 -0500, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: At 07:07 PM 2/24/00 , you wrote: Hi gang, Am finally in the position to upgrade my system. I am going to buy an AMD K-7 550 Athlon, two 64MB DIMMS, and I also want to buy a new motherboard. That is what I am unsure of. Do any of you good people have any positive suggestions for a MB that will be compatible with the K-7? Would prefer one with onboard sound and video if possible. Appreciate any feedback. Thanks! John Connell I would recommend avoiding the onboard sound/video for a number of reasons. First, if one component goes bad then the whole motherboard is shot. Second, there are lots more compatibility problems, drivers, etc. with the built-in sound and video than there are with separate components. As to brands, I've had great luck with ASUS boards the last few years. I don't know if they make one that will take the AMD but it's worth a look. yes. i built a system using K7M and a K7/500 (oc'ed to 750). not one problem.
Re: [expert] smb.conf
At 09:28 AM 02/18/2000 -0600, Audrey Beck wrote: duncan wrote: I want the windows boxes to automatically map their home directory H: and group driectory G: when they log in each morning. I would like to do this on a user basis rather than per machine . I have written a basic %U.bat file but it is not executed when the win98 user logs in. Here is the %U.bat file called duncan.bat. NET USE H: \\SAMBA\duncan NET USE G: \\SAMBA\group It is stored in the /home/netlogon/ directory and can be seen in network neighbourhood. I can run it from there and the drives get mapped, but what I need is for this to happen automatically. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks Dunc Duncan, it's hard to tell what might be wrong from just this small snippet. Can you post your entire smb.conf?
