[expert] Installation problem with Mandrake..
I just upgraded my workstation here and it seems that I can no longer install Mandrake. I've tried MNF 8.2, Mandrake 9.0, and 9.1. I can boot off the first CD, but when I hit enter to start the installation, the bar gets about 9/10ths of the way across and then my screen goes blank and the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock lights start flashing on my keyboard. The machine is then locked up hard and has to be powered off.. 3 finger salute does no good.. Google searches indicate that the flashing keyboard lights indicate a kernel panic of some sort.. Anyone have any ideas on how to get around this? System configuration is: ASUS P4T533-C motherboard Intel 850E chipset P4 2.53 533mhz bus 1 gigabyte Samsung 1066RDRAM Sapphire ATI Radeon 9700 Hercules Game Theater XP sound card Intel 10/100 ethernet built into motherboard Darin - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] You Don't Need to Burn CD's to Install
David Guntner wrote: I wish I know who the rocket scientist at Mandrake was that decided ISOs that create CDs larger than 650M was a good idea, so that I could thank him with a large brick. :-( Just curious.. Have you been out to buy blank CDs lately? Not meaning any offense here, but I buy 200 or so every other month, and its getting quite hard anymore to even find 74 minute blanks. And, if I do find them, the cost difference between them is negligible. Darin - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Toshiba laptops
Check here: http://www.linux-laptop.net/toshiba.html Their site has all kinds of good info.. Helped me get going on my Dell Laptop. - Original Message - From: David Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: [expert] Toshiba laptops Does anyone have any experience of LM 8 on a Satellite - I'm thinking of buying a Satellite 2800-600 and I'm a bit concerned about sound support, not that it's essential. Many thanks David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Aureal AU8830 Superquad
Lyric, I have an Aureal SQ2500, which uses the 8830 chipset.. This is by far the best sound card out there.. It beats the SB Live hands down.. The drivers for it can be obtained here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aureal You will want to get the 1.1.2 drivers, and patch number 407654. The patch will fix a bug caused problems with ARTSD. The patch can be obtained here: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=407654group_id=810 9atid=308109 Once you untar and unzip the drivers, save the patch into the aureal directory under the name aureal.diff Then do 'patch -p1 aureal.diff' That will patch the source code.. Then do 'make' to compile Then do 'make install' to install the driver.. Its best to do this as root.. Thats all I had to do to get it to work.. After that, the drivers have worked flawlessly for me.. Darin - - Original Message - From: lyric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:06 PM Subject: [expert] Aureal AU8830 Superquad Hey all, Does anyone have the above soundcard working under Mandrake 8.0? If so, did you have to install any special drivers to make it work, or did Mandrake find and configure it for you? I have one of those cards sitting on my desk right now, and I would like to make use of it in my Linux machine. Please let me know what was required in order to get this card up and running, if it doesn;t onvolve too much hassle, I should like to upgrade my soundcard this weekend. Thanks. Lyric Current Linux kernel 2.4.3-20mdk uptime: 5 days 21 hours 40 minutes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] MDK 8.1 question
Does anyone know if 8.1 will continue to include FreeSWAN? I didnt see it on either CD, even though its still part of Cooker. Darin - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK 8.1 question
Yes, I mentioned that in my message.. I realize that its currently in Cooker. However, its not on the 8.1 Beta. So, my question is, will it find its way on to 8.1 final? Darin - Original Message - From: Sergio Korlowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [expert] MDK 8.1 question It is there in /cooker : freeswan-1.91-2mdk.i586.rpm -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How is 8.0 on laptops?
Sheldon, For work, I use a Dell CPIa366xt laptop with a P-II 366.. Everything works perfectly under Mandrake 7.2... I had some issues with sound under MDK 8 with the NeoMagic chipset.. Hopefully, they will be resolved when 8.1 comes out.. It even recognizes the ethernet built into the docking station, and the 3com PCMCIA modem. I did have some initial configuration problems with X-Windows, but the Linux on Laptops site was extremely helpful.. They had info on how to configure X for my exact model.. The URL is http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Darin - - Original Message - From: Sheldon E. Newhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 3:58 PM Subject: [expert] How is 8.0 on laptops? Hello, I am thinking of upgrading the RedHat 6.1 on my laptop to Mandrake 8.0. However, with the RH I could not get X working properly without a lot of trouble. The laptop is a Gateway 9300XL. It supports the same X as the Dell inspiron 7500. Anyone out there running Mandrake 8.0 on one of these laptops? Did you get X working? TIA, -sen
Re: [expert] SMP systems (continued)
Actually, a lot of it depends on the architecture... Xeons are really only designed for 4 way SMP.. 8 and 16 way solutions are custom designs and the cost per CPU goes way up. Plus, the GTL bus that Xeons use can easily saturate the memory bus at the 4 way level.. All 4 CPUs have to share the same memory bandwidth. So, they dont scale nearly as well as Sun, Alpha or MIPS. The Alpha uses the EV6 bus.. It is quite capable of scaling well to 16 and 32 CPUs with little problem.. But, the Alpha is a high-cost option as well. Sun UltraSparc II and III processors can scale as high as 64 processors in a single box.. SGI has Origin servers that can scale even higher.. Linux will run well on any of these platforms.. Also, for a better high end disk solution, you might try checking into EMC hardware.. They are expensive, but they're about the best around for Unix servers.. IBM is the best for mainframes... If you're just looking for a small solution (say under 200 gig) you may want to stay with a Mylex/Compaq/Adaptec RAID soluiton. But, anything beyond that is where EMC sits.. My employer has used EMC on our cluster of Sun E1 systems, and has been quite pleased.. We have 4 or 5 terabytes for our Unix machines. They run 24/7 with no problems. - Original Message - From: Rusty Carruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [expert] SMP systems (continued) Julia A. Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all that sent me email about multi cpu mother boards... One more question... I've used linux quite a bit with dual CPU systems, but I'm thinking about a motherboard that supports 4 CPU's... I've heard rumor that you just don't get a linear increase in computing power when you go over 2 CPU's... True, but you don't get linear from 1 to 2 either. And the rumor I'd heard was that you don't lose much of the multiplier till you reach like 16 cpus (If thats really just a rumor I'm sure we'll get corrected here real soon now ;-) That the task scheduler doesn't make efficent use of the extra CPU's... That's a new one on me. Maybe thats true of the 'other' OS, but that's not my understanding on linux. Also is it possible to do something like dedicate a single CPU to just doing filesystem I/O? No. Then it would not be *S*MP... That would make using software RAID almost as fast as using a hardware RAID controller. Actually, since Linux can (I think) share KERNEL tasks across multiple cpus as well as the user tasks, that you get this bonus by using 2 cpus anyhow Again, standing by for correction ;-) rc Rusty E. Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE ___ FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 \e/ Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825V ICBM: 33 20' 44N 111 53' 47W http://tuxedo.org/~esr/ecsl/index.html
[expert] MDK 8 Kernel questions
Hi all, I'm currently running Mandrake 8 on a dual Pentium Pro system. It is the firewall/server for my home.. Behind it, are 4 other systems that my family uses so we can all share the DSL line. Currently, its running the default 2.4.3 SMP kernel, but I noticed that on the second CD is a secure kernel 2.2.19. The secure name has me wondering if it would be better to be running the older version instead. And, does it support SMP? If running the 2.2.19 secure is better, are there instructions for installing and setting up LILO to point to it? Are there any special considerations for falling back from 2.4.x to 2.2.x? Any information would be appreciated. Thanks Darin -
[expert] S/Wan VPN setup
Does anyone have any experience with this? I just recently got set up to use VPN so that I can work from home and I'd like to continue using Mandrake for work.. Thanks. Darin -
Re: [expert] 2D Video Card
Matrox makes some of the best 2D cores around.. If you're not concerned about 3D at all, Matrox is definitely the way to go.. Darin - - Original Message - From: Randy Donohoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 8:10 PM Subject: [expert] 2D Video Card I'm getting started on a new linux box and am having trouble finding the information I need for the video card. I don't game so I don't really care about 3D. I need a good 2D card that is no problems under linux and will make a 21 inch monitor look as good as my 19 does. Any suggestions on a card like this for $125 or less? I also don't need TV or anything like that. Thanks, Randy Donohoe
Re: [expert] nVidia question
On Tuesday 09 January 2001 17:33, you wrote: Secondly, if the above situation does not apply to you, try disabling AGP by doing the following. In the "Screen" section of your XF86Config-4 file add the line: Option "NvAgp" "0" This info is in the Nvidia FAQ and with my AMD-751 mobo I have to add this line in order for X to work correctly. Hope this helps... -Chris Chris, Thanks for the pointer.. That got it working for me.. I can now play UT... Thanks again
[expert] nVidia question
Hi, I've tried following the suggestions on the MandrakeUser site, the nVidia site, and any others I could find out there.. I still cannot get the bloody thing to work.. One question: Is there a known problem with the nVidia kernel driver and the AMD Irongate 751 chipset? I notice that when it loads, it loads an AGPGART driver also.. Does this work with the AMD-751 chipset? I have the following config: FIC-SD11 motherboard with Athlon 700 not overclocked 256 meg Micron PC-133 SDRAM Guillemot Maxi Gamer Xentor 32 TNT2 Ultra 175/183 Soundcard with Aureal Vortex2 chipset Creative Labs 5x DVD Sony CRX-140E CD-R WD 10.2 gig EIDE D-Link 530TX 10/100 Ethernet I can get everything working just fine except for the nVidia drivers.. After following any of the instructions out there, I get a blank screen and a locked system when I try to start X from the console. If anyone has any ideas at all, I'd appreciate hearing them.. Thanks.. Darin -
Re: [expert] cd burner firmware upgrade
Does anybody know a way possible to upgrade my cd burner firmware, all of the installers are windows obviously :( I have a Yamaha CRW4416E You might try this: http://www.formware.com.bi They have firmware for just about anything CD related.. Dont know if they would have info on upgrading firmware in Linux or not. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] cd burner firmware upgrade
woops.. Make that http://www.firmware.com.bi I should check my typing more closely... Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] $display not set?
Dude, Im sure people would be more willing to respond to your messages if you'd just turn off HTML in Outlook Express.. - Original Message - From: "Brent Timmer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:36 PM Subject: [expert] $display not set? alleoOkay, I was playing a simple game of pingus, and tried to exit. It froze, and I had to force a log out. Then, my resolution was messed up. I went into drakconf to fix it, and it said I had to restart kdeinit. I logged out, and restarted x server, and it seemed to go into an endless loop. I restarted linux, and it won't go to the log in screen. I log in as root, type kdeinit, and it says "$DISPLAY is not set." I'm sure someone can help me on this one, please? Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Aureal Sound Card and MDK 7.2
Roland, There are open source drivers for the Aureal cards at www.sourceforge.net.. I have them installed in 7.2 and they work perfectly. Darin - - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 12:00 AM Subject: [expert] Aureal Sound Card and MDK 7.2 Does anyone know where I can get Aureal drivers for 7.2??? Roland Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] AMD Athlon Chips
- Original Message - From: "Chris Spencer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [expert] AMD Athlon Chips First of all, the names are different. The socket A is an Athlon, which has an off-die L2 cache. The slot A is a Thunderbird and its L2 is on-die. -Chris Ummm... You have it backwards The Slot A is the Athlon.. It has 512k of L2 cache separate from the CPU die Socket A is the Athlon Thunderbird with 256k of L2 cache on the CPU die. There is also the Duron, which is the economy version of the Thunderbird. Its Socket A also, but only has 64k of L2 cache on the CPU die. Darin - Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kpackage problems
Angus, I had the same problem with 7.2beta3. I had to use RPM in an xterm or from the console for that version. However, 7.2rc1 doesnt have the problem at all.. Kpackage runs fine. Darin - - Original Message - From: "Angus Beath" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 5:57 PM Subject: [expert] kpackage problems Greetings Mandrake users, I have recently installed 7.2beta2 and have noticed an alarming tendency in kpackage to segfault and die on me at any given opportunity. Is anyone else experiencing this kind of problem, and what is the way to get around it? I have tried other packaging programs and they aren't as easy to manipulate as kpackage (especially gnorpm). Maybe there is a better way. Suggestions? Regards, Angus Beath Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] 7.2 RC1 and Nvidia driver installation
Hi, I'm trying to get Unreal Tournament running under LM 7.2 RC1 but I'm having a few problems. Does anyone have any useable instructions on installing nVidia drivers? The instructions on the nVidia site are cryptic at best. All I can get now is my monitor going into oversync when starting UT. I have been able to get the Kernel module for the drivers loaded. I just cant seem to figure out the rest.. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Darin - Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] 7.2 RC1 and Nvidia driver installation
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, you wrote: Passes: - Get XF401 working with "nv" driver. - Decide if you want to try AGP access with nVidia's propietary AGP or with kernel AGP GART. Configure your kernel and build it. AFTER that, build NVdriver kernel module. Its build depends on gart being selected on kernel or not. This is why you must build your own NVdriver. A driver built with gart active does not work on a kernel built without gart, and viceversa. It is not selectable at runtime. If you change your mind about agp, rebuild NVdriver. - Remove /usr/X11R6/lib/libMesaGL.*,/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.*, /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/[libGLcore.a,glx.a] - Put nvidia's libGL.so* libGLcore.* at /usr/lib (i prefer that location better than /usr/X11R6/lib, so when you upgrade XFree dont have to copy again libGL's, just remove those from /usr/X11R6/lib). Run ldconfig to recreate libs links and cache - Put nvidia_drv.o - /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers - Put libglx.so.1.0.5 - /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions, and ln -s libglx.so.1.0.5 libglx.so. Make sure you DON'T have glx.a or libGLcore.a lying in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions. That is a common mess... - Change your driver in XF86Config-4 from "nv" to "nvidia". Also make sure you Load "glx". - If you cant get the resolution you had with "nv" XFree driver try adding Option "IgnoreEDID" "1" in your Device section. If you cant get this working, send a XFree.log attached... Good luck. I tried all of this, and now UT cores when I try to start it. If I try to start any of the Mesa demos, My monitor goes blank and my system locks. I'm about ready to give up on this.. I've been able to figure out most anything, but this one just seems to be beyond me. If anyone has any suggestions, it would be appreciated.. Thanks.. System config: FIC-SD11 Athlon board, Irongate 751 chipset Athlon 700 128 meg PC-133 Guillemot Xentor 32 TNT2 Ultra 175/183 Vortex 2 sound card Dlink 10/100 ethernet 5x DVD Mitsumi CD-RW Thanks Darin - Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, you wrote: Is an AMD processor equivalent to an intel chip, in terms of instruction set, etc... Yes, except for SSE.. Most programs dont use SSE. Many video card drivers do, but those drivers also have 3DNow optimizations as well. Are the power supply requirements so rigid as mentioned in the AMD website? Yes.. The two things that you should not go cheap on are the power supply and the RAM.. By a power supply from the AMD list and buy good RAM.. That will ensure that you have a stable system Will any hardware on an Intel system suit an AMD system? Yes.. ANy recommendations of a good motherboard for a Duron processor. The ASUS A7V is probably the best Duron board.. Appreciate any feedback from people who have/built an AMD system I've had my Athlon system for over 6 months now. I've been extremely pleased with its stability and performance. Darin - Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Sever Dissappointment with upgrade to Mandrake 7.0 from 6.1
Did you use DiskDrake to re-size your fat32 partition? I did and lost everything on my 10 gig drive in the process. After recovering from my Ghost image, I re-installed 7.0 on a second drive. But, all was not well.. I chose to do a beginner install. I thought I'd see just how well it would go. Everything installed and came up just fine. But, I tried to set up KPPP to dial to my ISP.. That was no problem either. Except that once I was connected to my ISP, I could no longer open any applications in KDE.. As soon as I disconnected from my ISP, I could once again open applications. So, I thought I'd be slick and open stuff up before starting KPPP. Well, that worked, but I couldnt connect to anything.. Not even by entering the direct IP address. So, I blew that install away and re-installed in expert mode. This time I was able to get things set up and going. Then, I decided to upgrade another system I have from MDK 6.1 to 7.0 That too turned into an exercise in futility. Once the upgrade was complete, my pppd settings no longer worked, the supermount system didnt like the devices or the IO chip on that system (Its a Compaq Deskpro so that part doesnt surprise me very much) and most of the software I had set up on this system was gone. So, I completely wiped the partitions on that system and reinstalled 6.1. It took 6.1 20 minutes to install, another 30 minutes to set up config files and compile a few applications and it was back in business. The Compaq system is a system I use for work and has to be up and online at all times, so I didnt feel like tinkering around for the next day or two trying to get 7.0 to behave. I do see great things in the new installer and the Drake utilities. But, they need more work and more testing before I will consider using them in a production environment. Especially DiskDrake and its partition re-sizing code. I really like the feel of the installer. It does need a few improvements to make it more intuitive for both new users and experienced users. Like everyone else, this has not soured me on Mandrake.. I will be downloading 7.1 when its made available.. Darin - Senior Systems Engineer On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, you wrote: tommiyI'm sorry but I don't have any ready solutions for your present problems. What I do have are some suggestions as to how to prevent such problems in the future. Anyway here's what I do. I have one primary partition and one extended partition on my 9.1 gig scsi hard drive. The primary partition has windows on it and uses 1/3 of the space (just under 3 gigs) on the drive. The extended partition takes up the rest of the drive and contains 6 partitions. It has in order a 15 meg ext2, a 128 meg swap, a 2.6 gig ext2, a 15 meg ext2, a 128 meg swap, and a 2.6 gig ext2. The primary partition is sda1 and the extended partition contains sda5-10. This leaves room for 2 linux installations of /boot, swap and /. When a new release comes out I install it clean on the set of 3 partitions I'm not currently using. Then I can slowly customize and install updates till I'm ready to stop using the old version and start using the new one on a daily basis. I've never upgraded, but instead always installed each new version fresh and migrated to using the new release slowly. There are other ways too, but this method is mine and I've never had any severe disappointments. Alan tommiy wrote: Well when 7.0 came out i got excited and bought the CD thinking...hey 6.1 was cool...damn 7 must be betterwhat a dissappointment. I selected an upgrade and now I find I have an absolute multitude of problems to work throughseems lots of things are now brokenall come with the distro... First my ppp scripts no longer function...cool huh and all I used to use was ifup ppp0. This is now broken by a new app in the initscripts called ppp-watch. Now if I try the old ifup ppp0 ppp-watch barfs and rejects it. Off to the source code time to resolve that...in the mean time I probably broke everything and went back to the init scripts from 6.1 to make it work again oh by the way this also appears to make linuxconf ppp side of life to fail as well...it gives the same errors in messageskppp still goes but I hate KDE! Would seem to identify where the testing went thou. Also appears that the IDE patches weren't in the kernel cause my ALI board chipset is no longer recognised and installed as simplex...DOH! off to get another patch and patch the kernel Next for some reason starting gnome is as slow as an absolute wet week!!! On 6.1 it came up faston 7.0 it takes approximately 3 minutes for the desktop icons to appear... Sigh appears that the reasons I went to Mandrake are fast dissappearing ;(( Anyone have some cluse to the slow enlightenment startup I would appreciate. Regards
Re: [expert] What is going on?
I have a mitsumi 32x that has worked fine with 6.0, 6.1 and 7.0. - Original Message - From: "ibi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 2:54 AM Subject: Re: [expert] What is going on? I'm looking for a new CD-ROM. 6.0 doesn't like my old Mitsumi at all. Any suggestions? I don't want to upgrade L-M. Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] My 7.0 installation experience and a few questions
I've run Mandrake since 6.0 and never had a problem with it. Boy was I in for a shock when I installed 7.0 First, when I tried to make a boot disk with rawwritewin.exe or rawwrite.exe I received an error message that says LoadLibrary16 Failed when I try to get the program to write the image to disk. So, I used rawrite.exe from a command prompt to get the boot disk created.. The BIOS on my machine is too old to allow me to boot from CD Next, The graphical installation is very smooth and easy to use. I have a 10 gig WD drive that had Win98SE and Win2k installed on it under a single partition. I re-sized the partition using Disk Drake down to 7900k to give me plenty of room for Mandrake 7. The installation completed fine, and Mandrake boots great. But, the data on my Fat32 partition is completely destroyed. Some directories were completely empty.. One told me that I had 19gig of files in it (on a 10 gig drive). Good thing I keep a current Ghost image available for me to recover from. So, I recover my main drive. I have a 2 gig SCSI drive in this system also.. I move everything off of it on to my freshly restored 10gig drive and install Mandrake. The install goes smoothly. No problems at all. I get everything booted up and it detects my dual Pentium Pro processors and loads the SMP kernel, just like past versions of Mandrake had done. KDE comes up, I'm able to set resolutions and color depth with no problems. Then, I go to set up my 28.8 external modem to dial up to my ISP. KPPP looks the same as it has for some time now. I enter the DNS settings, etc and tell KPPP to dial. I get connected and logged into my ISP normally.. Thats were the trouble begins. I tried to open Konsole to try some traceroutes and pings. For some reason, Konsole wont open. I tried opening X-Chat to get on to IRC.. No go.. X-Chat also refuses to open. I can, however, open Netscape and use it with no problems. As soon as I close KPPP, I can open as many Konsole and X-Chat copies as I want. But, as long as I am connected to my ISP, there are very few programs that I can open. This more than anything has me seriously confused. I've tried fiddling with all the settings in KPPP and the one thing I found out is that if I dont set up any DNS or default gateways, applications will open fine. As soon as I set those things up, very few applications will open. If anyone has any ideas, I'm open to them. A couple of constructive criticisms: ! - Make it an option to choose runlevel 3 or runlevel 5 from the installer. I prefer booting to the console and then deciding if I want to go into X or not. 2 - Disk Drake needs to be a little more robust with regard to resizing partitions. If it were not for these few things, everything would be perfect. I think the installer is great. Its a major improvement over the redhat installer. I hope you guys keep improving on it. Darin -
Re: [expert] Dual Processors Systems yeah or nah
- Original Message - From: Orlando Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 9:51 PM Subject: [expert] Dual Processors Systems yeah or nah I am considering building a dual Pentium 2 or Celeron system. I have been told that NT only benefits from the dual processors using specific software applications such as Adobe. And that it generally cruises along on one CPU. Is this true and if it is does the same logic apply for Linux. The system will be a dual boot workstation. What are the pros and cons on both OS's and what are the recommended CPU and board combos? Thats sort of half-right.. NT and Linux can benefit from dual CPUs. The NT and Linux kernels manage which app uses which CPU. A particular program can switch from one CPU to another several times a second. So, the statement that NT uses only 1 CPU is really not true. The catch is that typically, most programs wont run any faster than they do on a single CPU system. This is because most programs are single-threaded. If a program were multi-threaded, it would be able to have threads go to different CPUs and thus use more CPU time. Adobe Photoshop is multi-threaded, so image manipulation will work more quickly in NT on a dual system than a single system.. Quake III Arena also supports SMP, so it you have a dual system, you should see higher framerates with a dual system.
Re: [expert] Mandrake SMP w/ P54C??
I have dual P-Pro 200 with 128 meg. If I run 2 copies of SETI@Home, xosview and Ktop both show the CPUs at 99%. My install was a plain vanilla install of Mandrake 6.1 - Original Message - From: Yann-Erick Proy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake SMP w/ P54C?? same problem with Duel PIII-600mhz with 1GIG ECC PC-100 RAM. Had abosultely no luck at all with it, lastly resoerted to RedHat 6.1 as well. [Mandrake Bug?] On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, istiqfar wrote: I experience the same on dual processor PIII Xeon 500MHz with 2 gig ram. finally, i use redhat 6.1 :-( On the other hand, I had SMP success with a dual PIII 450MHz 128MB ECC RAM (Mandrake 6.0 R2 as well as Debian 2.1R3) and a dual Celeron 466MHz 128MB (Mandrake 6.1). Two CPUs displayed as well in /proc/cpuinfo and xosview. As for performance, I have no benchmark results to provide but I doubt I have ever seen xosview displaying both CPUs in use. I don't have any time to investigate further and conclude. Kind regards, Yann -- Yann-Erick Proy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quartz Informatique -- http://www.quartz.fr/ -- Annecy (F-74000) La diversité est source de richesse.
Re: [expert] High level SMP systems...
Round-robin is where the http daemon alternates requests between two different boxes. This has a couple of advantages. First, if one box goes down, you still have part of your hardware up so you dont have a single point of failure. Also, its more cost effective in the hardware area. A single 4 way Xeon box will easily cost you 6-7 thousand dollars. But, two dual P-III boxes will cost a lot less for the basic hardware.. Granted, a single 4 way Xeon box sounds really hot and sexy but its not really very smart if you're wanting to set up a high-traffic web site.. You want to eliminate all single points of failure. Plus, I must admit I'm a bit jaded.. A 4 way Xeon is nothing where I work.. I get to work on large Sun Enterprise servers that have 64 processors and 40 gigs of ram. We have 7 back end servers and all of them are sent requests from our two web server boxes using the round-robin process.. - Original Message - From: Pastor Torrente, Guillermo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 4:44 AM Subject: RE: [expert] High level SMP systems... please, what is "round-robin"? TIA! ------ De: Darin Martin[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Responder a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: lunes 22 de noviembre de 1999 7:12 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: [expert] High level SMP systems... - Original Message - From: Matthew Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Expert Mandrake List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 10:10 PM Subject: [expert] High level SMP systems... Does anyone know of any board manufacturer who makes a quad way SMP intel P2/3 motherboard? Thx The standard P-II/P-III chips will not work in 4 or 8 way configurations because of limitations in the LX, BX, and i820 chipsets. The 450 NX and GX chipsets will allow up to 8 way SMP, but those are chipsets that will only work with the more expensive Xeon processors that are slot 2 instead of slot 1. It would be theoretically possible to make P-II and P-III chips work in 4 or 8 way SMP, but it would require a custom motherboard design. ALR used to do things like that.. I don't know if they still do. You might try checking with them. Companies like Tyan, ASUS, Abit, etc... probably would not want to invest the time and money in developing something that is not very mainstream. Just curious.. Why not go with a clustered approach with round-robin.. Or a Beowulf style approach? Either way.. You'll get there for a lot less money than an expensive 4 way solution..
Re: [expert] Xfs and Truetype Fonts
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, you wrote: Please turn off the bloody HTML... Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- Cthulhu for President in 2000 - Why settle for the lesser evil
Re: [expert] SMP newbie
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, you wrote: Hello all! I've taken the plunge and picked up a pair of Celeron 400's and an Abit BP6 board. This is my first foray into the wild yonders of SMP, so forgive my naive questions. I was under the impression that since the kernel and libc libraries natively support SMP, applications would automatically make use of both processors without intervention. I'm wondering whether I was incorrect. As a test, I ripped an audio track from a CD and started 'notlame' (also tested 'bladeenc' with similar results) to encode the wav file. Using top, the encoding process never used more than 50% of CPU time. This makes me think that it's only making use of one processor. Even using 'nice -19 blah' never yielded much more than 50% CPU. Was I naive to think that applications "auto-magically" benefit from SMP? Anyone know of an MP3 encoder that will make use of the second processor? Steve, Were you using Top to see application activity? I think you probably were. When Top shows 50% CPU being used in a dual CPU system, that means that the ripper/encoder were using all of 1 CPU. KPM shows things a little differently. Anyways.. To answer your question. If you want a single application to use both CPUs, it has to be capable of multi-threading. Without that, the program can never use more than 1 CPU at a time. I'm not aware of too many applications that can do that. I know Photoshop when used with NT can use more than 1 CPU. But, there is an advantage.. Take the CD Ripping and Encoding for example. I use Krabber with CD Paranoia and Bladenc. Krabber allows you to start more than 1 encoder at a time. So, I have it start 2. That way, the CD is done ripping in 1/2 the time. Or, I can run Seti@HOME reniced at 20 and still have plenty of horsepower left to do other things so that it gets full use of the other processor. I can also compile apps and still do other things while the app compiles. Darin - -- Cthulhu for President in 2000 - Why settle for the lesser evil
[expert] Helios is out
The official announcement is on the main site, theres an ISO on the primary and seconday mirrors! WooHoo! I'm glad I've been using fmirror on my system here for the last few days.. I was wondering why there were no updates today. -- Cthulhu for President in 2000 - Why settle for the lesser evil
RE: [expert] Bug Reports...
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, you wrote: Quite true! I issued the same remark on the french list and I got the reply that :"Not every body uses KDE after all..." (dixit) Personnaly, i'd rather wait a few days and get the final release of KDE rather get a pre-something Too bad KDE 1.1.2 is out.. Its on the KDE mirrors now.
Re: [expert] Bug Reports...
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, you wrote: Vincent Danen wrote: But you're coming damn-near to assuming Mandrake is going to pull a Mickeysoft and release 6.1 without fixing the bugs first. Confidence misplaced. 6.1 (Helios) is already released and downloadable from the mirrors. And this without even waiting for KDE 1.1.2, due next week! Actually, its not completely done.. If you check file tiimestamps, they are updating it once a day.. -- Cthulhu for President in 2000 - Why settle for the lesser evil
Re: [expert] Bug Reports...
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, you wrote: I recently read a post from Gael, requesting that we stop bashing them about the bug reports. Well unfortunately I cannot do that. Not until the problem/problems get resolved. The developers have to understand that if a product has bugs in it, that those bugs have to be answered and fixed before going to the next release. I know I have come down hard before on the lack of response from the Mandrake Team on getting things done and answering questions, and yes the response has picked up somewhat. But legitimate bugs are not getting answered. Something must be done about this. Theres a real easy way to fix it.. Get the source and compile it yourself. Heres an even better question: Did you buy Mandrake or did you download it? And when I say buy it, I dont mean from CheapBytes. Did you buy a support agreement? People that buy genuine copies of Mandrake, or support agreements obviously are going to get preferential treatment.. Sorry, thats how a business works. Don't like it? You're more than welcome to go out and build your own Linux distribution. I downloaded my copy of Mandrake 6 and I would never dream of attacking these people the way you have in this forum.. Next question: If you think this is such a simple problem to fix, why dont you help a little and fix it? And then, submit the fix to the developers? Isn't that supposed to be what Linux is all about?? Everyone helping everyone else to make Linux better?? Axalon, Gael, and the others don't have to monitor this list. I, personally am grateful for their presence here. -- Cthulhu for President in 2000 - Why settle for the lesser evil
[expert] Is 6.1 ready?
I just happened to be checking the primary mirrors at ftp.sunet.se and sunsite.uio.no have fresh 6.1 directories. In fact, the Norway site was in the process of updating while I was there. Does this mean that 6.1 is done? Darin -
Re: [expert] Suggestion for Mandrake
On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, you wrote: To clairify, I did not mean to remove the pentium version. The boxed version could have 2 CDs. I don't think that would make Mandrake have to up the price very much. If you are using a PIII or Zeon are you loosing that much by running PII optimized code? P-II, P-III and Xeon processors all use the same instruction set. The only difference is the MMX and SSE instructions for optimizing graphics and sound processing. Hardly anyone uses those special sets anyways. Thats why the choice is i686 when you go to compile the kernal. That basically supports anything from the Pentium Pro on up. When you get right down to it, the P-II, P-III and Xeon processors are nothing more than a Pentium Pro core with different caching systems and MMX/SSE instructions added on. -- Cthulhu for President in 2000 - Why settle for the lesser evil
Re: [expert] ANNOUNCE: Linux-Mandrake 6.1pre available for download and tests
On Wed, 01 Sep 1999, you wrote: On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, duncan hall wrote: How is this different to COOKER? Dunc Cooker is an on going ever changeing development project. Cassini is the prerelease of 6.1, containing less "bleeding edge" software than cooker. The Cassini team "basicly" took Cooker in one hand Venus in tthe other smashed them togather (eg removed some really instable stuff) And so on and so forth. You'll have to compare version info between cooker cassini and venus by hadn cause i'm not gonna cover that.. take to long Is there time to get the 2.2.12 kernel in before release?? Or is it too late for that already?
Re: [expert] ANNOUNCE: Linux-Mandrake 6.1pre available for download and tests
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, you wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, you wrote: Aug, 31 1999 ANNOUNCE: Linux-Mandrake 6.1pre available for download and tests - Will we be able to upgrade to this with RPMs or will this require a reinstall? Any idea if the kernel included will like dual-PPro any better? ;-) Thanks... John John, I compiled and installed 2.2.12 last week.. The SMP works a little more efficiently than the 2.2.9 that I was running.. The 6.1pre release has kernel 2.2.11 which as I recall had a memory leak problem..
