Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-05 Thread Dana Laude

Actually thats not true at all.  For example, I used to run SuSE 5.1 and had
to add the append statement into my lilo.conf to see >64M of ram.  Btw, you
DON'T enable the OS/2 option, since that's specific to the OS/2 operating
system. ;)  After upgrading to SuSE 5.3 > I didn't need the append option in
lilo.conf, nor RH 6.x or Mandrake 6.1. I upgraded the hardware recently to a
Asus MB, (last summer/fall) and still no problems.  Sometimes, an older SCSI
card can do odd things also..., I can't recall exactly what it was, but it
had something to do the a 16MB memory limit with direct DMA. (?)  This was
back in my OS/2 days.  (good os btw)

Regards,

Dana

On Thu, 03 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> Well, Jean-Louis,
> It happend that the box has a brand new ASUS board (BIOS 11/99)
> If I will set the BIOS for OS/2 I am getting only 14M. Go figure!!
> Again I think that thre is something wrong with the code itself - there
> are too many people complainig about the same thing - LINUX IS NOT ABLLE
> TO RECOGNIZE MORE THAN 64M
> It looks like the intruction code is made to recognize only a 16Bit
> integer.



RE: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-04 Thread Lyle

What they are trying to say, it's not LM or Linux that's at fault.  Linux
politely asks the BIOS how much memory and it got an answer.  It wasn't
right, but it got an answer.  some other OS's ask in a different way and get
the right answer more often.  Linux is not a very mature OS from my point of
view and there is a lot of strange hardware out there and it's not 100%
compatible with it.

It's really a retorical question, but who is at fault, Linux or hardware
when it gets a wrong answer?

It used to be a big problem for many OS's.  They have been around for a long
time and have figured out the hardware side of it, but then most of them are
commerical OS's also.

Lyle

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Saidac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 8:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] 128 mb mem


I agree with all of you flame or not.
I really need an answer not a status of other systems.
Given the fact that Red Hat/Mandrake is keeping a long silence about
this make me believe that there is a problem somewhere. Why is showing
only on certain systems - THAT'S the mystery!!

Civileme wrote:
> 
> John Aldrich wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 03 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> > > Well, Jean-Louis,
> > > It happend that the box has a brand new ASUS board (BIOS 11/99)
> > > If I will set the BIOS for OS/2 I am getting only 14M. Go figure!!
> > > Again I think that thre is something wrong with the code itself -
there
> > > are too many people complainig about the same thing - LINUX IS NOT
ABLLE
> > > TO RECOGNIZE MORE THAN 64M
> > > It looks like the intruction code is made to recognize only a 16Bit
> > > integer.
> > >
> > Wrong. I've got 192 megs of ram here and I didn't do ANYTHING to
> > make it see all that RAM. One thing I recall reading is that
> > overclocking will cause Linux to see less than maximum RAM. If you're
> > overclocking, try setting it back to the "real" clock speed and see
> > what it reports.
> > Here's the output of my "free" command:
> >  total   used   free sharedbuffers
cached
> > Mem:192848 181820  11028  55492  22740
79616
> > -/+ buffers/cache:  79464 113384
> > Swap:   102744   5708  97036
> >
> > Keep in mind that I'm running two instances of RC5DES and an instance
> > of SETI@HOME on this machine at all times...
> > John
> 
> H.  I think the conclusion about a halfword for memory size might be
> premature.
> 
> Set the BIOS for OS/2 and you have made a HOLE in the memory picture and
all
> the BIOS will report is 15M--the memory hole is 15M to 16M.  Why are you
> getting 14?  Most likely your video BIOS shadowing is enabled, effectively
> eliminating the first M from the picture.
> 
> I have 17 machines with either 128M(15) or 256M(2) and I never used the
> append "mem=xyzM" on any of then.  One is running Caldera OpenLinux 2.3,
15
> are running LM 6.1 (Helios) and one is running LM 6.0 (Venus)  UPtimes as
> long as 96 days (on the server) exist now, and some of the others have
been
> on since I implemented Helios on them, 12-63 days.
> 
> Now at home I have a couple of those cheapie boards that have the AGP and
the
> sound built-in and each of them uses 8M of main for the video mem.  Linux
> reports 120M/119M on them, which is correct.  Again, no special settings.
> 
> Here is the output of free
>   total used free
> shared  buffers  cached
> Mem:  119840 63836   56004
> 45456   290033768
> -/+ buffers/cache   2716892672
> Swap: 1686720  168672
> 
> So look at the BIOS and erase the memory hole at 15M and change the
setting
> for OS/2 for >64M and Linux will see your memory too.
> 
> Civileme
> 
> --
> experimentation involving more than 500 trials with an
> ordinary slice of bread and a tablespoon of peanut butter
> has determined that the probability a random toss will
> land sticky side down (SSD) is approximately .98



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-04 Thread Michael Moore



Adrian Saidac wrote:

> I agree with all of you flame or not.
> I really need an answer not a status of other systems.
> Given the fact that Red Hat/Mandrake is keeping a long silence about
> this make me believe that there is a problem somewhere. Why is showing
> only on certain systems - THAT'S the mystery!!
>

Well, I don't and won't use ABIT boards, so it is unlikely I will be able to
reproduce your error EXCEPT:

I set this system for OS/2  My 119M shrunk to 63

I activated the memory hole at 15-16M and my memory magically shrunk to 14M!

Look at your BIOS.  Hit DEL when it is starting up, check the menus out for these
rather standard settings, OR

add

append mem="M"

to /etc/lilo.conf

and as root

# /sbin/lilo
# shutdown -r now

And if you cannot understand that it is NOT safe for an OS to test the memory
directly, then you probably have never heard of memory-mapped I/O or shadowing, nor
do you realize that linux runs on systems that routinely do those things

consider that m68klinux may not be able to utilize the same binaries, but it can
deal with the same source, and so can linuxppc, alpha linux, etc.

Your conjecture that linux cannot handle more that 64M is ...  perhaps a leap made
without extensive knowledge.

And yes I have a reason I don't use ABIT boards.  I have never implemented one in
linux without a hassle.  I decided I would rather not live with the choices made by
the ABIT design engineers, which impress me as one kludge on top of another.  YMMV,
of course.

Civileme





Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-04 Thread Adrian Saidac

I agree with all of you flame or not.
I really need an answer not a status of other systems.
Given the fact that Red Hat/Mandrake is keeping a long silence about
this make me believe that there is a problem somewhere. Why is showing
only on certain systems - THAT'S the mystery!!

Civileme wrote:
> 
> John Aldrich wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 03 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> > > Well, Jean-Louis,
> > > It happend that the box has a brand new ASUS board (BIOS 11/99)
> > > If I will set the BIOS for OS/2 I am getting only 14M. Go figure!!
> > > Again I think that thre is something wrong with the code itself - there
> > > are too many people complainig about the same thing - LINUX IS NOT ABLLE
> > > TO RECOGNIZE MORE THAN 64M
> > > It looks like the intruction code is made to recognize only a 16Bit
> > > integer.
> > >
> > Wrong. I've got 192 megs of ram here and I didn't do ANYTHING to
> > make it see all that RAM. One thing I recall reading is that
> > overclocking will cause Linux to see less than maximum RAM. If you're
> > overclocking, try setting it back to the "real" clock speed and see
> > what it reports.
> > Here's the output of my "free" command:
> >  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
> > Mem:192848 181820  11028  55492  22740  79616
> > -/+ buffers/cache:  79464 113384
> > Swap:   102744   5708  97036
> >
> > Keep in mind that I'm running two instances of RC5DES and an instance
> > of SETI@HOME on this machine at all times...
> > John
> 
> H.  I think the conclusion about a halfword for memory size might be
> premature.
> 
> Set the BIOS for OS/2 and you have made a HOLE in the memory picture and all
> the BIOS will report is 15M--the memory hole is 15M to 16M.  Why are you
> getting 14?  Most likely your video BIOS shadowing is enabled, effectively
> eliminating the first M from the picture.
> 
> I have 17 machines with either 128M(15) or 256M(2) and I never used the
> append "mem=xyzM" on any of then.  One is running Caldera OpenLinux 2.3, 15
> are running LM 6.1 (Helios) and one is running LM 6.0 (Venus)  UPtimes as
> long as 96 days (on the server) exist now, and some of the others have been
> on since I implemented Helios on them, 12-63 days.
> 
> Now at home I have a couple of those cheapie boards that have the AGP and the
> sound built-in and each of them uses 8M of main for the video mem.  Linux
> reports 120M/119M on them, which is correct.  Again, no special settings.
> 
> Here is the output of free
>   total used free
> shared  buffers  cached
> Mem:  119840 63836   56004
> 45456   290033768
> -/+ buffers/cache   2716892672
> Swap: 1686720  168672
> 
> So look at the BIOS and erase the memory hole at 15M and change the setting
> for OS/2 for >64M and Linux will see your memory too.
> 
> Civileme
> 
> --
> experimentation involving more than 500 trials with an
> ordinary slice of bread and a tablespoon of peanut butter
> has determined that the probability a random toss will
> land sticky side down (SSD) is approximately .98



RE: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-04 Thread Steve Wright


> Wrong. I've got 192 megs of ram here and I didn't do ANYTHING to 
> make it see all that RAM.

Same here, 196Mb and Mandrake sees the whole lot no probs



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-04 Thread Rich Clark

On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Adrian Saidac wrote:

> Well, Jean-Louis,
> It happend that the box has a brand new ASUS board (BIOS 11/99)
> If I will set the BIOS for OS/2 I am getting only 14M. Go figure!!
> Again I think that thre is something wrong with the code itself - there
> are too many people complainig about the same thing - LINUX IS NOT ABLLE
> TO RECOGNIZE MORE THAN 64M
> It looks like the intruction code is made to recognize only a 16Bit
> integer.
> 
> 


Hmmm... funny.  Can I have some of what you're smoking, please?  Looks
like good stuff.  I'm running a K6/3-450 on an Asus P5A with a single 
128mb DIMM in place.  Here's my /proc/meminfo:

total:used:free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
Mem:  130850816 104624128 26226688 32210944  3489792 41967616
Swap: 131567616 57417728 74149888
MemTotal:127784 kB
MemFree:  25612 kB
MemShared:31456 kB
Buffers:   3408 kB
Cached:   40984 kB
BigTotal: 0 kB
BigFree:  0 kB
SwapTotal:   128484 kB
SwapFree: 72412 kB

Now, care to repeat that statement without your foot in your mouth?

-
Rich Clark

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Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-04 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> I heard that mandrake needs line: append="mem=128M"
> in to /etc/lilo.conf if computer haves more than 64mb.
> I have 128mb mem and i dont have that line in my conf
> but still "top" shows that i have 128mb of mem + swap ?
> 
Don't sweat it. Only CERTAIN systems need that. It's
somewhat motherboard specific...
John



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-03 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

Adrian Saidac wrote:
> 
> Well, Jean-Louis,
> It happend that the box has a brand new ASUS board (BIOS 11/99)
> If I will set the BIOS for OS/2 I am getting only 14M. Go figure!!

So the problem _does_ come from the BIOS !!! (and/or _possibly_
the RAM circuitry itself, especially if the system is overclocked :-)
The right question, now, is: do you _need_ the OS/2 setting ???


> Again I think that thre is something wrong with the code itself - there
> are too many people complainig about the same thing - LINUX IS NOT ABLLE
> TO RECOGNIZE MORE THAN 64M

As I said before, linux _does not attempt_ (AFAIK) to check itself 
the amount of memory, because it might hang the machine on some
configs.
Instead it just asks the BIOS.
Now, is your BIOS _ever_ correctly reporting the memory that you have
???


-- 
Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED]
74 Annemasse  France
old Linux fan



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-03 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

Lyle wrote:
> 
> I am having a minor/major problem.  I have an older Compaq Proliant 2000
> with 64 meg of ram and it's not accepting the extra ram and I have added
> append="mem=64M" and append="63M" to /etc/lilo.conf and it doesn't seem to
> take.  Is this a problem with Compaq?  Or where do you add the line in
> lilo.conf or does it matter or??

If I understand you well, you have 128MB total, right ?
Well the append line must reference the TOTAL memory, not the "extra"
(relative to 64Mb).

So say:  append="mem=128m"

-- 
Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED]
74 Annemasse  France
old Linux fan



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-03 Thread Civileme

John Aldrich wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> > Well, Jean-Louis,
> > It happend that the box has a brand new ASUS board (BIOS 11/99)
> > If I will set the BIOS for OS/2 I am getting only 14M. Go figure!!
> > Again I think that thre is something wrong with the code itself - there
> > are too many people complainig about the same thing - LINUX IS NOT ABLLE
> > TO RECOGNIZE MORE THAN 64M
> > It looks like the intruction code is made to recognize only a 16Bit
> > integer.
> >
> Wrong. I've got 192 megs of ram here and I didn't do ANYTHING to
> make it see all that RAM. One thing I recall reading is that
> overclocking will cause Linux to see less than maximum RAM. If you're
> overclocking, try setting it back to the "real" clock speed and see
> what it reports.
> Here's the output of my "free" command:
>  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
> Mem:192848 181820  11028  55492  22740  79616
> -/+ buffers/cache:  79464 113384
> Swap:   102744   5708  97036
>
> Keep in mind that I'm running two instances of RC5DES and an instance
> of SETI@HOME on this machine at all times...
> John

H.  I think the conclusion about a halfword for memory size might be
premature.

Set the BIOS for OS/2 and you have made a HOLE in the memory picture and all
the BIOS will report is 15M--the memory hole is 15M to 16M.  Why are you
getting 14?  Most likely your video BIOS shadowing is enabled, effectively
eliminating the first M from the picture.

I have 17 machines with either 128M(15) or 256M(2) and I never used the
append "mem=xyzM" on any of then.  One is running Caldera OpenLinux 2.3, 15
are running LM 6.1 (Helios) and one is running LM 6.0 (Venus)  UPtimes as
long as 96 days (on the server) exist now, and some of the others have been
on since I implemented Helios on them, 12-63 days.

Now at home I have a couple of those cheapie boards that have the AGP and the
sound built-in and each of them uses 8M of main for the video mem.  Linux
reports 120M/119M on them, which is correct.  Again, no special settings.

Here is the output of free
  total used free
shared  buffers  cached
Mem:  119840 63836   56004
45456   290033768
-/+ buffers/cache   2716892672
Swap: 1686720  168672


So look at the BIOS and erase the memory hole at 15M and change the setting
for OS/2 for >64M and Linux will see your memory too.

Civileme



--
experimentation involving more than 500 trials with an
ordinary slice of bread and a tablespoon of peanut butter
has determined that the probability a random toss will
land sticky side down (SSD) is approximately .98





Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-03 Thread John Aldrich

On Thu, 03 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> OK so if it is a new machine (in this case is a 11/99 BIOS - ABIT board,
> the addition to the lilo.config is not required
> This is common knowledge - my question is HOW I CAN MAKE THIS LINUX crap
> to recognize more than 64M.
> 
Add the line, even if it's a "new" BIOS. Also make sure you have the
latest BIOS possible. Try it at the lilo command as follows:
LILO: linux append="mem=128M"
and it SHOULD work. If it does, just add it to your /etc/lilo.conf. I
have yet to read of anywhere it did NOT work. I'm sure there are
extreme cases where it won't work, but I don't recall hearing of any.
Heck, it even works when you O/C the processor and it stops reporting
the correct RAM automagically...
John



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-03 Thread John Aldrich

On Thu, 03 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> Well, Jean-Louis,
> It happend that the box has a brand new ASUS board (BIOS 11/99)
> If I will set the BIOS for OS/2 I am getting only 14M. Go figure!!
> Again I think that thre is something wrong with the code itself - there
> are too many people complainig about the same thing - LINUX IS NOT ABLLE
> TO RECOGNIZE MORE THAN 64M
> It looks like the intruction code is made to recognize only a 16Bit
> integer.
> 
Oh, one other thing...here's my /etc/lilo.conf. No "append"
statements at all: 

default=linux
prompt 
timeout=60
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-up
label=linux
root=/dev/hda5
read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12
label=smp
root=/dev/hda5
read-only



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-03 Thread John Aldrich

On Thu, 03 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> Well, Jean-Louis,
> It happend that the box has a brand new ASUS board (BIOS 11/99)
> If I will set the BIOS for OS/2 I am getting only 14M. Go figure!!
> Again I think that thre is something wrong with the code itself - there
> are too many people complainig about the same thing - LINUX IS NOT ABLLE
> TO RECOGNIZE MORE THAN 64M
> It looks like the intruction code is made to recognize only a 16Bit
> integer.
> 
Wrong. I've got 192 megs of ram here and I didn't do ANYTHING to 
make it see all that RAM. One thing I recall reading is that
overclocking will cause Linux to see less than maximum RAM. If you're
overclocking, try setting it back to the "real" clock speed and see
what it reports.
Here's the output of my "free" command:
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:192848 181820  11028  55492  22740  79616
-/+ buffers/cache:  79464 113384
Swap:   102744   5708  97036 

Keep in mind that I'm running two instances of RC5DES and an instance
of SETI@HOME on this machine at all times...
John



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-03 Thread Adrian Saidac

OK so if it is a new machine (in this case is a 11/99 BIOS - ABIT board,
the addition to the lilo.config is not required
This is common knowledge - my question is HOW I CAN MAKE THIS LINUX crap
to recognize more than 64M.

Adrian Saidac wrote:
> 
> If does not need it why can see no more than 64M
> UNIX originally was designed to take advantege of RAM memory (HDs were
> too expensive back then)
> The more RAM the better the performance - there is something really
> wrong with Linux if you can not use more than 64M
> 
> Wojtek Piecek wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 12:53:36PM +0200, Lasse Kristian Gustafsson wrote:
> >
> >  > I heard that mandrake needs line: append="mem=128M"
> >  > in to /etc/lilo.conf if computer haves more than 64mb.
> >  > I have 128mb mem and i dont have that line in my conf
> >  > but still "top" shows that i have 128mb of mem + swap ?
> >
> > Mandrake (here: kernel) need that line, if you have old (or very old)
> > motherboard, which can't correctly report memory size.
> >
> > New machines don't need this line.
> >
> > --
> >
> > --w



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-03 Thread Adrian Saidac

Well, Jean-Louis,
It happend that the box has a brand new ASUS board (BIOS 11/99)
If I will set the BIOS for OS/2 I am getting only 14M. Go figure!!
Again I think that thre is something wrong with the code itself - there
are too many people complainig about the same thing - LINUX IS NOT ABLLE
TO RECOGNIZE MORE THAN 64M
It looks like the intruction code is made to recognize only a 16Bit
integer.



Jean-Louis Debert wrote:
> 
> Adrian Saidac wrote:
> > If does not need it why can see no more than 64M
> > UNIX originally was designed to take advantege of RAM memory (HDs were
> > too expensive back then)
> > The more RAM the better the performance - there is something really
> > wrong with Linux if you can not use more than 64M
> 
> It has _nothing_ to do with linux itself: linux has no _safe_ way
> to know the memory size, except to ask the BIOS (when I say _safe_
> I mean, not likely to hang the machine).
> So, if you have an older BIOS that doesn't know how to report more
> than 64Mb, then you have to use the "mem=" command line parameter.
> 
> --
> Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 74 Annemasse  France
> old Linux fan



RE: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-03 Thread John Aldrich

On Thu, 03 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> I am having a minor/major problem.  I have an older Compaq Proliant 2000
> with 64 meg of ram and it's not accepting the extra ram and I have added
> append="mem=64M" and append="63M" to /etc/lilo.conf and it doesn't seem to
> take.  Is this a problem with Compaq?  Or where do you add the line in
> lilo.conf or does it matter or??
> 
Did you remember to re-run /sbin/lilo afterwards? You HAVE
to re-run lilo after modifying the /etc/lilo.conf in order
to "write" the changes to the partition table.
John



RE: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-03 Thread Lyle

I am having a minor/major problem.  I have an older Compaq Proliant 2000
with 64 meg of ram and it's not accepting the extra ram and I have added
append="mem=64M" and append="63M" to /etc/lilo.conf and it doesn't seem to
take.  Is this a problem with Compaq?  Or where do you add the line in
lilo.conf or does it matter or??

Thanks,
Lyle

-Original Message-
From: Jean-Louis Debert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 12:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] 128 mb mem


Adrian Saidac wrote:
> If does not need it why can see no more than 64M
> UNIX originally was designed to take advantege of RAM memory (HDs were
> too expensive back then)
> The more RAM the better the performance - there is something really
> wrong with Linux if you can not use more than 64M

It has _nothing_ to do with linux itself: linux has no _safe_ way
to know the memory size, except to ask the BIOS (when I say _safe_
I mean, not likely to hang the machine).
So, if you have an older BIOS that doesn't know how to report more
than 64Mb, then you have to use the "mem=" command line parameter.



-- 
Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED]
74 Annemasse  France
old Linux fan



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-02 Thread Jean-Louis Debert

Adrian Saidac wrote:
> If does not need it why can see no more than 64M
> UNIX originally was designed to take advantege of RAM memory (HDs were
> too expensive back then)
> The more RAM the better the performance - there is something really
> wrong with Linux if you can not use more than 64M

It has _nothing_ to do with linux itself: linux has no _safe_ way
to know the memory size, except to ask the BIOS (when I say _safe_
I mean, not likely to hang the machine).
So, if you have an older BIOS that doesn't know how to report more
than 64Mb, then you have to use the "mem=" command line parameter.



-- 
Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED]
74 Annemasse  France
old Linux fan



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

Adrian Saidac wrote:
> 
> If does not need it why can see no more than 64M

Did you read the message you are replying to?
It never said Linux can't see no more than 64. It said, if you have an
old BIOS (mobo) which cannot tell more than 64 to the OS, then _you_
have to tell the OS.

> The more RAM the better the performance - there is something really
> wrong with Linux if you can not use more than 64M

Huh? Who said Linux can't use more than 64?

wobo (running Linux with 256 M)
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Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-02 Thread Adrian Saidac

If does not need it why can see no more than 64M
UNIX originally was designed to take advantege of RAM memory (HDs were
too expensive back then)
The more RAM the better the performance - there is something really
wrong with Linux if you can not use more than 64M

Wojtek Piecek wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 12:53:36PM +0200, Lasse Kristian Gustafsson wrote:
> 
>  > I heard that mandrake needs line: append="mem=128M"
>  > in to /etc/lilo.conf if computer haves more than 64mb.
>  > I have 128mb mem and i dont have that line in my conf
>  > but still "top" shows that i have 128mb of mem + swap ?
> 
> Mandrake (here: kernel) need that line, if you have old (or very old)
> motherboard, which can't correctly report memory size.
> 
> New machines don't need this line.
> 
> --
> 
> --w



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-02 Thread Civileme

Lasse Kristian Gustafsson wrote:

> I heard that mandrake needs line: append="mem=128M"
> in to /etc/lilo.conf if computer haves more than 64mb.
> I have 128mb mem and i dont have that line in my conf
> but still "top" shows that i have 128mb of mem + swap ?
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It is dependent on the BIOS and its settings.  If, for
example, the memory hole at 15M to 16M is activated, then you
DO need it.  If your BIOS is set for OS/2, then you will need
it.

Civileme




Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-02 Thread Bug Hunter


  sometimes you have to use 
append "mem=127M"

  because 1 meg disappears into the video shadow.  We had this problem
until we dropped it to 127 meg.  then it recognized the memory

On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Lasse Kristian Gustafsson wrote:

> I heard that mandrake needs line: append="mem=128M"
> in to /etc/lilo.conf if computer haves more than 64mb.
> I have 128mb mem and i dont have that line in my conf
> but still "top" shows that i have 128mb of mem + swap ?
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 



RE: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-02 Thread Stout, Wayne


>> I heard that mandrake needs line: append="mem=128M"
>> in to /etc/lilo.conf if computer haves more than 64mb.
>> I have 128mb mem and i dont have that line in my conf
>> but still "top" shows that i have 128mb of mem + swap ?
>
>I haven't got this line either and I have 196Mb RAM. Seems to work ok
>here! My guess is you can ignore it. Better still, add the line and >try
>it, then let us know what happened :)

I always thought this was a workaround for certain BIOS/Mainboard combos.
Some BIOSes have an option that says Memory Hole At 64 meg, and if disabling
this option didn't work, you used this append statement in lilo.

If your computer reports all the memory you have, then don't fix what ain't
broke. :)

Wayne



RE: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-02 Thread Steve Wright

> I heard that mandrake needs line: append="mem=128M"
> in to /etc/lilo.conf if computer haves more than 64mb.
> I have 128mb mem and i dont have that line in my conf
> but still "top" shows that i have 128mb of mem + swap ?

I haven't got this line either and I have 196Mb RAM. Seems to work ok
here! My guess is you can ignore it. Better still, add the line and try
it, then let us know what happened :)

Steve Wright
BMS



Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-02 Thread Mario Galan

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On Wed, 02 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> I heard that mandrake needs line: append="mem=128M"
> in to /etc/lilo.conf if computer haves more than 64mb.
> I have 128mb mem and i dont have that line in my conf
> but still "top" shows that i have 128mb of mem + swap ?

Me too, I have 96MB on my computer and don't have 'append="mem=XX"' in
my lilo.conf. As far as I know in some cases the kernel itself can detect the
correct amount of memory installed and in others you have to tell it explicitly.


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Re: [expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-02 Thread Wojtek Piecek


On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 12:53:36PM +0200, Lasse Kristian Gustafsson wrote: 

 > I heard that mandrake needs line: append="mem=128M"
 > in to /etc/lilo.conf if computer haves more than 64mb.
 > I have 128mb mem and i dont have that line in my conf
 > but still "top" shows that i have 128mb of mem + swap ?

Mandrake (here: kernel) need that line, if you have old (or very old)
motherboard, which can't correctly report memory size.

New machines don't need this line.

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[expert] 128 mb mem

2000-02-02 Thread Lasse Kristian Gustafsson

I heard that mandrake needs line: append="mem=128M"
in to /etc/lilo.conf if computer haves more than 64mb.
I have 128mb mem and i dont have that line in my conf
but still "top" shows that i have 128mb of mem + swap ?

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