Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
At 01:39 PM 1/17/2002 -0500, Jim Dewar wrote: >This is a multi-part message in MIME format... > >=_1011307822-762-1306 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >X-RebelTech Is Here: http://www.rebeltech.ca >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >just thought i would chime in my two cents worth... > >two bad mobos is very odd. are you certain that your power supply is ok? > >i had one die on me and it started to put out 22VAC - yes, AC on the +12VDC >lines. not a good scene. > I have to assume that the power supply is OK since my Asus P5A-B mobo works fine with this power supply. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
At 01:55 PM 1/17/2002 -0600, J. Craig Woods wrote: >At 07:17 AM 1/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: >>Nope. No beeps whatsover. No video display. Nothing. The CPU fan runs >>though and I hear some noise from the drives as I normally do. The D-panel >>diagnostic lights are all red. The manual says that combo of colors >>indicates a bad CPU but when I talked to MSI tech support last week the >>tech said if I don't hear any beeps it's a bad mobo. But, 2 in a row? If >>so, I think I'll return the board and go with some other vendor. > >Lee, > >I assume you have built this baby from scratch, right? It might help, and >it might not, to start at the beginning, and I mean the very beginning. >Empty every PCI and ISA, if present, bus slot. Pull out all sticks of >memory. Try to boot with just the system board, hard drive, cpu, and one >stick of your memory. Next try with your AGP, or PCI video, card. Get down >to the bare minimum of what you need, each time adding one piece, trying >the boot again. One thing to check very carefully is your wire LEDs. Try >these wires one at a time too, first PW LED, then SW LED, so on and so >forth. Sometimes these LEDs can simply be reversed, keeping BIOS from >starting. The posts about setting CPU speed in BIOS are right on but you >must first have a running BIOS to do so. Check all jumpers on board again, >and, if need be, clear CMOS with the jumper pin on your board. You >obviously need to have a running BIOS to do what must be done. I would just >troubleshoot along these lines, and if no BIOS can run, take the hardware >back, and demand a exchange. Good luck.. > I did all that. Still no go. MSI tech support believes it to be a bad CPU. Too bad I don't know anyone with a board that'll take this chip (so that I can test it). A local dealer said they'd check it out for $30. It'll be cheaper to send the CPU back to TigerDirect for testing. I'll have to call them on Saturday since their tech support doesn't work on Fridays. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
Franki and others, Have you got AGP to work with KT266A? With that chipset my install is using the AGP card as if its a PCI card. This works, but is only 33MHz instead of AGP x4. In /var/log/messages agp startup says that the chipset is unsupported and I might want to try "agp_try_unsupported=1" or something similar. No idea where I would but that though. Stock LM8.1 kernel install. Thanks, Nick. Franki wrote: >Strange, I have had a MSI KT266A board with an AthlonXP 1800 running on it >for ages now... > >not a problem, other then getting linux to use it, and once I got that >sorted, all was well.. > >keep persevering.. MSI make good boards... I have had several of them,, > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
X-RebelTech Is Here: http://www.rebeltech.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit just thought i would chime in my two cents worth... two bad mobos is very odd. are you certain that your power supply is ok? i had one die on me and it started to put out 22VAC - yes, AC on the +12VDC lines. not a good scene. others have made excellent suggestions, but i didn't see this one. good luck! moose. On Thursday 17 January 2002 14:55, you wrote: > At 07:17 AM 1/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Nope. No beeps whatsover. No video display. Nothing. The CPU fan runs > >though and I hear some noise from the drives as I normally do. The D-panel > >diagnostic lights are all red. The manual says that combo of colors > >indicates a bad CPU but when I talked to MSI tech support last week the > >tech said if I don't hear any beeps it's a bad mobo. But, 2 in a row? If > >so, I think I'll return the board and go with some other vendor. > > Lee, > > I assume you have built this baby from scratch, right? It might help, and > it might not, to start at the beginning, and I mean the very beginning. > Empty every PCI and ISA, if present, bus slot. Pull out all sticks of > memory. Try to boot with just the system board, hard drive, cpu, and one > stick of your memory. Next try with your AGP, or PCI video, card. Get down > to the bare minimum of what you need, each time adding one piece, trying > the boot again. One thing to check very carefully is your wire LEDs. Try > these wires one at a time too, first PW LED, then SW LED, so on and so > forth. Sometimes these LEDs can simply be reversed, keeping BIOS from > starting. The posts about setting CPU speed in BIOS are right on but you > must first have a running BIOS to do so. Check all jumpers on board again, > and, if need be, clear CMOS with the jumper pin on your board. You > obviously need to have a running BIOS to do what must be done. I would just > troubleshoot along these lines, and if no BIOS can run, take the hardware > back, and demand a exchange. Good luck.. > > J. Craig Woods > UNIX/NT SA > -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
At 07:17 AM 1/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Nope. No beeps whatsover. No video display. Nothing. The CPU fan runs >though and I hear some noise from the drives as I normally do. The D-panel >diagnostic lights are all red. The manual says that combo of colors >indicates a bad CPU but when I talked to MSI tech support last week the >tech said if I don't hear any beeps it's a bad mobo. But, 2 in a row? If >so, I think I'll return the board and go with some other vendor. Lee, I assume you have built this baby from scratch, right? It might help, and it might not, to start at the beginning, and I mean the very beginning. Empty every PCI and ISA, if present, bus slot. Pull out all sticks of memory. Try to boot with just the system board, hard drive, cpu, and one stick of your memory. Next try with your AGP, or PCI video, card. Get down to the bare minimum of what you need, each time adding one piece, trying the boot again. One thing to check very carefully is your wire LEDs. Try these wires one at a time too, first PW LED, then SW LED, so on and so forth. Sometimes these LEDs can simply be reversed, keeping BIOS from starting. The posts about setting CPU speed in BIOS are right on but you must first have a running BIOS to do so. Check all jumpers on board again, and, if need be, clear CMOS with the jumper pin on your board. You obviously need to have a running BIOS to do what must be done. I would just troubleshoot along these lines, and if no BIOS can run, take the hardware back, and demand a exchange. Good luck.. J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
Strange, I have had a MSI KT266A board with an AthlonXP 1800 running on it for ages now... not a problem, other then getting linux to use it, and once I got that sorted, all was well.. keep persevering.. MSI make good boards... I have had several of them,, rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lee Roberts Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 10:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos? Nope. No beeps whatsover. No video display. Nothing. The CPU fan runs though and I hear some noise from the drives as I normally do. The D-panel diagnostic lights are all red. The manual says that combo of colors indicates a bad CPU but when I talked to MSI tech support last week the tech said if I don't hear any beeps it's a bad mobo. But, 2 in a row? If so, I think I'll return the board and go with some other vendor. At 10:49 AM 1/17/2002 +, Nick Thompson wrote: >Lee, > >What /exactly/ do you mean by boot? Does the BIOS at least get started >(hear any beeps?) and the video show something, or do you mean that LM >will not boot once you have seen LILO? I don't have this mobo, but I >have a KT266A based board and it took me several hours to work out how >to get the BIOS going (CPU clock multiple config). > >BTW try pressing and holding the power switch for ~4 seconds. > >Nick. > >Lee Roberts wrote: > >>I recently bought a K7T266 with an Athlon 1.3GHZ CPU and 512 MB of DDR RAM. >>The first board wouldn't boot. MSI tech support said it was a bad mobo. So, >>I got another mobo. It won't boot either. Installing this mobo was a >>straightforward process so why won't they boot? Bad CPU? It isn't a problem >>with the case, power supply, drives, or cards since everything works with >>the Asus P5A-B. I'm going to contact MSI tech support tomorrow after work. >>Another strange problem with both boards is that I can turn on the computer >>but can't turn it off with the power switch. What gives? >> > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
On 17 Jan 02, at 7:17, Lee Roberts wrote: > > Nope. No beeps whatsover. No video display. Nothing. The CPU fan runs > though and I hear some noise from the drives as I normally do. The D-panel > diagnostic lights are all red. The manual says that combo of colors > indicates a bad CPU but when I talked to MSI tech support last week the > tech said if I don't hear any beeps it's a bad mobo. But, 2 in a row? If > so, I think I'll return the board and go with some other vendor. > I had exactly this happen to me with an MSI mobo in the K7T series (can't remember the number, but it was in a box I bought last April, so it was a recent version). The machine worked OK for several months -- although with occasional weirdnesses that I never did really explain, then one day everything froze and when I tried to reboot I saw these same symtoms. I sent the box back to Affordable Computers (the vendor I got it from) and they replaced the board with a "K7T Turbo-R Limited Edition" (or so it says on the manual). It's been in operation solidly for the past couple of months now, and all seems OK. The guy at tech support mentioned a failure rate or "1 or 2 percent" on the original board. He seemed to regard that as good; frankly, that sounds abysmal to me, but I know nothing about the failure rates of botherboards other than to know that in 30 years of computing this was the first mobo I'd ever had go bad on me. Certainly if I plonked down more that a hundred dollars for an electronic item, I would not expect the probability of failure to be more than a tiny fraction of one percent. Your plan of trying a different board vendor sounds pretty reasonable to me. Doc Evans -- Phone: +1 303 494 0394 Mobile: +1 720 839 8462 Fax:+1 781 240 0527 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
Nope. No beeps whatsover. No video display. Nothing. The CPU fan runs though and I hear some noise from the drives as I normally do. The D-panel diagnostic lights are all red. The manual says that combo of colors indicates a bad CPU but when I talked to MSI tech support last week the tech said if I don't hear any beeps it's a bad mobo. But, 2 in a row? If so, I think I'll return the board and go with some other vendor. At 10:49 AM 1/17/2002 +, Nick Thompson wrote: >Lee, > >What /exactly/ do you mean by boot? Does the BIOS at least get started >(hear any beeps?) and the video show something, or do you mean that LM >will not boot once you have seen LILO? I don't have this mobo, but I >have a KT266A based board and it took me several hours to work out how >to get the BIOS going (CPU clock multiple config). > >BTW try pressing and holding the power switch for ~4 seconds. > >Nick. > >Lee Roberts wrote: > >>I recently bought a K7T266 with an Athlon 1.3GHZ CPU and 512 MB of DDR RAM. >>The first board wouldn't boot. MSI tech support said it was a bad mobo. So, >>I got another mobo. It won't boot either. Installing this mobo was a >>straightforward process so why won't they boot? Bad CPU? It isn't a problem >>with the case, power supply, drives, or cards since everything works with >>the Asus P5A-B. I'm going to contact MSI tech support tomorrow after work. >>Another strange problem with both boards is that I can turn on the computer >>but can't turn it off with the power switch. What gives? >> > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
That is like I had with my board (Jetway 866ASU + 1GHz Athlon, upgraded last weekend). In my case I had the CPU clock multiplier wrong. The manual listed all the settings for the jumpers and I tried the lowest (x5.0) and it failed. I took all the jumpers off (not even listed) and now it works fine. Does your board have anything similar? I guess tech support would have talked you through this though. A lack of beeps just means the BIOS isn't running, which could be jumper configuration, bad CPU, bad RAM, bad BIOS or a bad mobo. Nick. Lee Roberts wrote: >Nope. No beeps whatsover. No video display. Nothing. The CPU fan runs >though and I hear some noise from the drives as I normally do. The D-panel >diagnostic lights are all red. The manual says that combo of colors >indicates a bad CPU but when I talked to MSI tech support last week the >tech said if I don't hear any beeps it's a bad mobo. But, 2 in a row? If >so, I think I'll return the board and go with some other vendor. > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
It won't boot at all so I can't even look at the BIOS. At 10:41 PM 1/16/2002 -0500, gnerd wrote: >Lee, > >Hate to be a doomsayer, but my brother has the power switch problem with >his motherboard. It works in windoze, but not Linux. His docs say it's >a motherboard designed specifically for windoze. It successfully boots >either OS, though. > >In your case, it could be bios settings. Have you gone into the bios >setup and checked things out? Maybe there's an interrupt conflict or >the bios is having a problem reading your drives. You might have to >configure them manually. > >If the bios is having a problem it should notify you, but I'd still go >look. > >Mike > > >Lee Roberts wrote: > >> I recently bought a K7T266 with an Athlon 1.3GHZ CPU and 512 MB of DDR RAM. >> The first board wouldn't boot. MSI tech support said it was a bad mobo. So, >> I got another mobo. It won't boot either. Installing this mobo was a >> straightforward process so why won't they boot? Bad CPU? It isn't a problem >> with the case, power supply, drives, or cards since everything works with >> the Asus P5A-B. I'm going to contact MSI tech support tomorrow after work. >> Another strange problem with both boards is that I can turn on the computer >> but can't turn it off with the power switch. What gives? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >> > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
This MSI board defaults to 100 MHZ. So, unless the DDR stick is completely bad... I'll have to contact the vendor for more info, of course. Ahh, the joys of upgrading. At 12:24 AM 1/17/2002 -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: >Lee, > I ran into some problems with another Asus board and it was due to >a memory stick that wouldn't run at 133mhz (runs fine at 100mhz on my >old mobo) simular boot problems. The tech at the store mentioned in >passing that certain (he couldn't remember models) Asus boards would >work with the Samsung 512meg DDR ram sticks. Even though the ram was >good and would work in other mobo's don't know if this is the >case or not for you. (note solved my problem by trading out the "bad" >stick for one running in another 100mhz box works fine now.) If >you know who made your ram ask the tech at MSI if they have had >problems with certain companies ram sticks. It's a shot. > >James > > >On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:52:24 -0700 >Lee Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I recently bought a K7T266 with an Athlon 1.3GHZ CPU and 512 MB of >DDR RAM. >> The first board wouldn't boot. MSI tech support said it was a bad >mobo. So, >> I got another mobo. It won't boot either. Installing this mobo was a >> straightforward process so why won't they boot? Bad CPU? It isn't a >problem >> with the case, power supply, drives, or cards since everything works >with >> the Asus P5A-B. I'm going to contact MSI tech support tomorrow after >work. >> Another strange problem with both boards is that I can turn on the >computer >> but can't turn it off with the power switch. What gives? >> >> >> > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
Lee, What /exactly/ do you mean by boot? Does the BIOS at least get started (hear any beeps?) and the video show something, or do you mean that LM will not boot once you have seen LILO? I don't have this mobo, but I have a KT266A based board and it took me several hours to work out how to get the BIOS going (CPU clock multiple config). BTW try pressing and holding the power switch for ~4 seconds. Nick. Lee Roberts wrote: >I recently bought a K7T266 with an Athlon 1.3GHZ CPU and 512 MB of DDR RAM. >The first board wouldn't boot. MSI tech support said it was a bad mobo. So, >I got another mobo. It won't boot either. Installing this mobo was a >straightforward process so why won't they boot? Bad CPU? It isn't a problem >with the case, power supply, drives, or cards since everything works with >the Asus P5A-B. I'm going to contact MSI tech support tomorrow after work. >Another strange problem with both boards is that I can turn on the computer >but can't turn it off with the power switch. What gives? > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
Lee, I ran into some problems with another Asus board and it was due to a memory stick that wouldn't run at 133mhz (runs fine at 100mhz on my old mobo) simular boot problems. The tech at the store mentioned in passing that certain (he couldn't remember models) Asus boards would work with the Samsung 512meg DDR ram sticks. Even though the ram was good and would work in other mobo's don't know if this is the case or not for you. (note solved my problem by trading out the "bad" stick for one running in another 100mhz box works fine now.) If you know who made your ram ask the tech at MSI if they have had problems with certain companies ram sticks. It's a shot. James On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:52:24 -0700 Lee Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recently bought a K7T266 with an Athlon 1.3GHZ CPU and 512 MB of DDR RAM. > The first board wouldn't boot. MSI tech support said it was a bad mobo. So, > I got another mobo. It won't boot either. Installing this mobo was a > straightforward process so why won't they boot? Bad CPU? It isn't a problem > with the case, power supply, drives, or cards since everything works with > the Asus P5A-B. I'm going to contact MSI tech support tomorrow after work. > Another strange problem with both boards is that I can turn on the computer > but can't turn it off with the power switch. What gives? > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
Lee, Hate to be a doomsayer, but my brother has the power switch problem with his motherboard. It works in windoze, but not Linux. His docs say it's a motherboard designed specifically for windoze. It successfully boots either OS, though. In your case, it could be bios settings. Have you gone into the bios setup and checked things out? Maybe there's an interrupt conflict or the bios is having a problem reading your drives. You might have to configure them manually. If the bios is having a problem it should notify you, but I'd still go look. Mike Lee Roberts wrote: > I recently bought a K7T266 with an Athlon 1.3GHZ CPU and 512 MB of DDR RAM. > The first board wouldn't boot. MSI tech support said it was a bad mobo. So, > I got another mobo. It won't boot either. Installing this mobo was a > straightforward process so why won't they boot? Bad CPU? It isn't a problem > with the case, power supply, drives, or cards since everything works with > the Asus P5A-B. I'm going to contact MSI tech support tomorrow after work. > Another strange problem with both boards is that I can turn on the computer > but can't turn it off with the power switch. What gives? > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 2 bad K7T266 mobos?
I recently bought a K7T266 with an Athlon 1.3GHZ CPU and 512 MB of DDR RAM. The first board wouldn't boot. MSI tech support said it was a bad mobo. So, I got another mobo. It won't boot either. Installing this mobo was a straightforward process so why won't they boot? Bad CPU? It isn't a problem with the case, power supply, drives, or cards since everything works with the Asus P5A-B. I'm going to contact MSI tech support tomorrow after work. Another strange problem with both boards is that I can turn on the computer but can't turn it off with the power switch. What gives? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
