Re: [expert] 7.2 is full of bugs!

2000-11-14 Thread Buchan Milne

Did you select "other window managers" from the general list of
packages. I think the 100% means 100% of the packages in the major
groups you selected.

Then again, you can only run the mandrake installer so many times 
so I might be wrong.

Buchan

Jeff Malka wrote:
> 
> That is what I thought originally.  But this install went to 100%
> 
> > > Jeff Malka wrote:
> > > > I think it has to do with the standard "custom" install.
> > >
> > > xfce is also in the 2nd CD but was not installed when I
> > > selected custom (all selections) install in Mandrake 7.2.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > What is happening!
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Jeffthe install will tell you a percentage of the
> > installation that you have selected that will actually be
> > installed (this percentage is governed by the amount of space
> > you have on your drive for the install).  If it doesn't say
> > 100% then some packages will be skipped.  Perhaps this is
> > what you've experienced.
> 
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Re: [expert] 7.2 is full of bugs!

2000-11-13 Thread Jeff Malka

That is what I thought originally.  But this install went to 100%

> > Jeff Malka wrote:
> > > I think it has to do with the standard "custom" install.
> >
> > xfce is also in the 2nd CD but was not installed when I
> > selected custom (all selections) install in Mandrake 7.2.
>
> [snip]
>
> > What is happening!
>
> [snip]
>
> Jeffthe install will tell you a percentage of the
> installation that you have selected that will actually be
> installed (this percentage is governed by the amount of space
> you have on your drive for the install).  If it doesn't say
> 100% then some packages will be skipped.  Perhaps this is
> what you've experienced.


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Re: [expert] 7.2 is full of bugs!

2000-11-12 Thread N K

I assume that your wording "from" to "form"...if that is the case, it would ensure 
that you don't have all the files...so you better to get it in ISO form.

NK
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:24:06   David Mihm wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Anton Graham wrote:
>
>> Submitted 11-Nov-00 by David Mihm:
>> > It's also a shame that AfterStep wasn't included. :)
>> 
>> In my local mirror of the 7.2 tree:
>> (%:~)- ls /mnt/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-*
>> /mnt/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-1.8.0.3-6mdk.i586.rpm
>> /mnt/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-APPS-2000309-5mdk.i586.rpm
>
>   It's not in the iso from any of the mirrors - along with alot of
>other -devel rpms.
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Re: [expert] 7.2 is full of bugs!

2000-11-12 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Jeff Malka wrote:

> > I think it has to do with the standard "custom" install. 
> xfce is also in the 2nd CD but was not installed when I
> selected custom (all selections) install in Mandrake 7.2. 
[snip]
> What is happening!
[snip]

Jeffthe install will tell you a percentage of the 
installation that you have selected that will actually be 
installed (this percentage is governed by the amount of space 
you have on your drive for the install).  If it doesn't say 
100% then some packages will be skipped.  Perhaps this is 
what you've experienced.
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Re: [expert] 7.2 is full of bugs!

2000-11-12 Thread Jeff Malka

I think it has to do with the standard "custom" install.  xfce is also in the 
2nd CD but was not installed when I selected custom (all selections) install 
in Mandrake 7.2.  Since it had been installed in the same standard custom 
install in 7.1 and being a newbie (7.1 was my first venture into linux) I 
erroneously assumed xfce was not included in 7.2.  I subsequently discovered 
it was included in the CD but not in the install.

I am not sure why Mandrake decided the change.

Also the xscreensaver that is installed in 7.2 lacks a lot of the "default 
and _included_" screensaver options (atlantis, moebius, pipes, etc., etc.).  
These options are not in the 7.2 xscreensaver rpm, but are in the 7.1 
xscreensaver rpm.  I extracted them from the 7.1 rpm and added them to the 
7.2 xscreensaver install and they work fine.

What is happening!

> > > It's also a shame that AfterStep wasn't included. :)
> >
> > In my local mirror of the 7.2 tree:
> > (%:~)- ls /mnt/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-*
> > /mnt/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-1.8.0.3-6mdk.i586.rpm
> > /mnt/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-APPS-2000309-5mdk.i586.rpm
>
>   It's not in the iso from any of the mirrors - along with alot of
> other -devel rpms.
>

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Re: [expert] 7.2 is full of bugs!

2000-11-12 Thread Anton Graham

Submitted 11-Nov-00 by David Mihm:
>   It's not in the iso from any of the mirrors - along with alot of
> other -devel rpms.

There are two ISO's, and most of the devel stuff is on the second.  Since I
don't use ISO's, I can't tell you exactly what's on which disc, but it
wouldn't surprise me to discover that things like WindowMaker, AfterStep,
and blackbox were also second CD packages.  Part of the goal of the first
disc is being able to handle base installs for the majority of new desktop
users.  These new users know nothing of these lower resource window managers
and want something more Windows-like such as KDE/GNOME.

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Re: [expert] 7.2 is full of bugs!

2000-11-11 Thread David Mihm

On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Jason Straight wrote:

> use gcc --version to get the version of gcc it matches the dir then.

That's not the point.  Packages are labeled for a reason, and this
package is not.  It's just one in a string of sloppy things that are
related to 7.2.

> On Saturday 11 November 2000 18:01, you wrote:
> 
> > > 7.2 is listed to have
> > # rpm -qa | grep gcc-2
> > gcc-2.95.2-12mdk
> > yet there is a /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.3 and not a
> > 2.95.2 directory.  This might be the reason behind gcc failing 9 out of 10
> > times when attempting to compile programs manually.
> >
> > Compiling programs is a hit and miss with ld core'g when it feels like it
> > and gcc failing to work off and on.
> >
> > 7.2 needed to actually be 8.0  and thuroughly tested with all the new
> > idiotic LSB mandates that have been added along with the unofficial
> > patches to various programs the Linux-Mandrake has slipped in.
> >
> > It's also a shame that AfterStep wasn't included. :)
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Re: [expert] 7.2 is full of bugs!

2000-11-11 Thread David Mihm

On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Anton Graham wrote:

> Submitted 11-Nov-00 by David Mihm:
> > It's also a shame that AfterStep wasn't included. :)
> 
> In my local mirror of the 7.2 tree:
> (%:~)- ls /mnt/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-*
> /mnt/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-1.8.0.3-6mdk.i586.rpm
> /mnt/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-APPS-2000309-5mdk.i586.rpm

It's not in the iso from any of the mirrors - along with alot of
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Re: [expert] 7.2 is full of bugs!

2000-11-11 Thread Anton Graham

Submitted 11-Nov-00 by David Mihm:
> It's also a shame that AfterStep wasn't included. :)

In my local mirror of the 7.2 tree:
(%:~)- ls /mnt/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-*
/mnt/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-1.8.0.3-6mdk.i586.rpm
/mnt/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/AfterStep-APPS-2000309-5mdk.i586.rpm

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Re: [expert] 7.2 is full of bugs!

2000-11-11 Thread Jason Straight

use gcc --version to get the version of gcc it matches the dir then.




On Saturday 11 November 2000 18:01, you wrote:

> > 7.2 is listed to have
>   # rpm -qa | grep gcc-2
>   gcc-2.95.2-12mdk
> yet there is a /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.3 and not a
> 2.95.2 directory.  This might be the reason behind gcc failing 9 out of 10
> times when attempting to compile programs manually.
>
> Compiling programs is a hit and miss with ld core'g when it feels like it
> and gcc failing to work off and on.
>
> 7.2 needed to actually be 8.0  and thuroughly tested with all the new
> idiotic LSB mandates that have been added along with the unofficial
> patches to various programs the Linux-Mandrake has slipped in.
>
> It's also a shame that AfterStep wasn't included. :)
>
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[expert] 7.2 is full of bugs!

2000-11-11 Thread David Mihm

7.2 is listed to have 
# rpm -qa | grep gcc-2
gcc-2.95.2-12mdk
yet there is a /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.3 and not a
2.95.2 directory.  This might be the reason behind gcc failing 9 out of 10
times when attempting to compile programs manually.

Compiling programs is a hit and miss with ld core'g when it feels like it
and gcc failing to work off and on. 

7.2 needed to actually be 8.0  and thuroughly tested with all the new
idiotic LSB mandates that have been added along with the unofficial
patches to various programs the Linux-Mandrake has slipped in.

It's also a shame that AfterStep wasn't included. :)

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