Re: [expert] ATI Radeon drivers
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:01 pm, Gustavo Alberto Homem wrote: No, the latest drivers include the whole schemozzle, right back to the original Radeon - it says so in the post install script of the rpm, and detects fine in the XFree log You mean that the latest binaries from ATI support the old radeons ? In the ATI website you aren't lead to the drivers if you choose an old radeon. Try here, instead of the Powered by ATI link, there are a heap of cards in the pop -up menu. Although my card is actually OEM, and a plain 9000, rather than a 9000Pro, it certainly uses the driuvers, and the changelog (which pops up during the install) mentions some fix or fixes for the OEM cards Any way, YMMV, and all . http://mirror.ati.com/support/driver.html cheers -- john in sydney Mandrake Linux 9.0, Kernel version: 2.4.19-24mdk OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/3E4A902F B38A AB0F 8658 D9E1 4900 3050 08FA D4FA 3E4A 902F Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ATI Radeon drivers
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 12:18 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: John Haywood wrote: [SNIP] It looks like it tries to use a driver called fglrx for 3D acceleration, but then binds itself to 2 (in my case) PCI card addresses 1:0:0 and 1:0:1 I attempted to munge this with the Mandrake stock config file which I used for my previous video card, and after commenting out the ATI-generated stuff, inserting the Driver fglrx into the Device section and leaving the PCI, stuff out, instead using AGPMode true, I get X to boot, but it seems woefully slow, (about 200 - 220 in glxgears). I don't know what your card is but it sounds like newer than mine (7200). There is documentation about that AGPMode option that says the value should be 1, 2, or 4. Although I don't think it will make much difference, you can see that here: http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/radeon.4.html You can also find some driver enhancement and details at that site wrt your card in 4.3. What I thought I noticed is that there is only, so far, 2d support for the newest Radeon (9500?) http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/RELNOTES2.html#3 One more option might be a 3rd party commercial driver: http://www.xig.com/ Rolf Further to this, (and thanks for putting me on the right track) I changed the line in my XFree Device section to read: BusID PCI:1:0:0 from 1:0:1, as put in by the ATI post-rpm script (their own xconfig basically). I'm guessing that the original refers to the digital output on my card, whereas I'm using the old SVGA one. The card supports a dual-head setup, so this may explain this. Looking at my old card's config, AGPMode is set to true, rather than 1, 2 or 4 which I'm guessing refer to AGP modes. Anyway, the upshot is, I can startx, run glxgears at 2000fps, but after exiting from X-windows or switching to another VT, I get an unreadable set of snow columns- on which I can make out about 10 sets of prompts, and only rebooting restores the console. Any suggestions on this last annoyance? And ta for all your input so far From Joan Tur: Joan said also: You haven't told us what Radeon you have, but the Ati's drivers are for 8500 to 9700 cards. The other Radeons are supported by DRI (afaik). No, the latest drivers include the whole schemozzle, right back to the original Radeon - it says so in the post install script of the rpm, and detects fine in the XFree log Just as soon as I get a fully working config, I'll post for others -- john in sydney Mandrake Linux 9.0, Kernel version: 2.4.19-24mdk OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/3E4A902F B38A AB0F 8658 D9E1 4900 3050 08FA D4FA 3E4A 902F Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ATI Radeon drivers
No, the latest drivers include the whole schemozzle, right back to the original Radeon - it says so in the post install script of the rpm, and detects fine in the XFree log You mean that the latest binaries from ATI support the old radeons ? In the ATI website you aren't lead to the drivers if you choose an old radeon. Gustavo 2+2=5 for extremely large values of 2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ATI Radeon drivers
On Saturday 01 March 2003 08:18 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: John Haywood wrote: I'm getting a little confused here, as far as I can see I have a couple of possibilities for getting an accellerated driver for XFree on MDK 9, and I'm wondering whether there is a point to pursuing one of these, or if it might be a feature of 9.1: I tried the ATI driver, which has its own XFreeConfig-4 generator, and generates a completely useless file. It looks like it tries to use a driver called fglrx for 3D acceleration, but then binds itself to 2 (in my case) PCI card addresses 1:0:0 and 1:0:1 I attempted to munge this with the Mandrake stock config file which I used for my previous video card, and after commenting out the ATI-generated stuff, inserting the Driver fglrx into the Device section and leaving the PCI, stuff out, instead using AGPMode true, I get X to boot, but it seems woefully slow, (about 200 - 220 in glxgears). I see also that there are gatos drivers which might cover this card, but yet again, I'm at a loss as to which way forward here Just thinking about this, I wonder if the libGL.so.1.2 is playing nice, and does anyone have a clue as to how I determine which/whose version I've got installed ... alternatively, of course, if anyone has upgraded to one of these cards (rather than a clean install), I'd really like to hear from you as to how you achieved all this TIA I don't know what your card is but it sounds like newer than mine (7200). There is documentation about that AGPMode option that says the value should be 1, 2, or 4. Although I don't think it will make much difference, you can see that here: http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/radeon.4.html You can also find some driver enhancement and details at that site wrt your card in 4.3. What I thought I noticed is that there is only, so far, 2d support for the newest Radeon (9500?) http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/RELNOTES2.html#3 One more option might be a 3rd party commercial driver: http://www.xig.com/ Rolf and as far as the two PCI address that is most likely the two differnet screens your card migh support, nor did you mention what motherboard you use, and weither this MOBO ever had onbaord video Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] ATI Radeon drivers
I'm getting a little confused here, as far as I can see I have a couple of possibilities for getting an accellerated driver for XFree on MDK 9, and I'm wondering whether there is a point to pursuing one of these, or if it might be a feature of 9.1: I tried the ATI driver, which has its own XFreeConfig-4 generator, and generates a completely useless file. It looks like it tries to use a driver called fglrx for 3D acceleration, but then binds itself to 2 (in my case) PCI card addresses 1:0:0 and 1:0:1 I attempted to munge this with the Mandrake stock config file which I used for my previous video card, and after commenting out the ATI-generated stuff, inserting the Driver fglrx into the Device section and leaving the PCI, stuff out, instead using AGPMode true, I get X to boot, but it seems woefully slow, (about 200 - 220 in glxgears). I see also that there are gatos drivers which might cover this card, but yet again, I'm at a loss as to which way forward here Just thinking about this, I wonder if the libGL.so.1.2 is playing nice, and does anyone have a clue as to how I determine which/whose version I've got installed ... alternatively, of course, if anyone has upgraded to one of these cards (rather than a clean install), I'd really like to hear from you as to how you achieved all this TIA -- john in sydney Mandrake Linux 9.0, Kernel version: 2.4.19-24mdk OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/3E4A902F B38A AB0F 8658 D9E1 4900 3050 08FA D4FA 3E4A 902F Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ATI Radeon drivers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Diumenge 02 Març 2003 01:43, en John Haywood va escriure: I tried the ATI driver, which has its own XFreeConfig-4 generator, and generates a completely useless file. You haven't told us what Radeon you have, but the Ati's drivers are for 8500 to 9700 cards. The other Radeons are supported by DRI (afaik). - -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain AOL quini2k, ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+YVY7ok8j9RhtetwRAiZiAJ43lgQznBAWrDXaMqEumV+RhaFJPwCgh7y+ bBkk/WtX9/b/UbrjiChBsT4= =Jtw3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ATI Radeon drivers
John Haywood wrote: I'm getting a little confused here, as far as I can see I have a couple of possibilities for getting an accellerated driver for XFree on MDK 9, and I'm wondering whether there is a point to pursuing one of these, or if it might be a feature of 9.1: I tried the ATI driver, which has its own XFreeConfig-4 generator, and generates a completely useless file. It looks like it tries to use a driver called fglrx for 3D acceleration, but then binds itself to 2 (in my case) PCI card addresses 1:0:0 and 1:0:1 I attempted to munge this with the Mandrake stock config file which I used for my previous video card, and after commenting out the ATI-generated stuff, inserting the Driver fglrx into the Device section and leaving the PCI, stuff out, instead using AGPMode true, I get X to boot, but it seems woefully slow, (about 200 - 220 in glxgears). I see also that there are gatos drivers which might cover this card, but yet again, I'm at a loss as to which way forward here Just thinking about this, I wonder if the libGL.so.1.2 is playing nice, and does anyone have a clue as to how I determine which/whose version I've got installed ... alternatively, of course, if anyone has upgraded to one of these cards (rather than a clean install), I'd really like to hear from you as to how you achieved all this TIA I don't know what your card is but it sounds like newer than mine (7200). There is documentation about that AGPMode option that says the value should be 1, 2, or 4. Although I don't think it will make much difference, you can see that here: http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/radeon.4.html You can also find some driver enhancement and details at that site wrt your card in 4.3. What I thought I noticed is that there is only, so far, 2d support for the newest Radeon (9500?) http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/RELNOTES2.html#3 One more option might be a 3rd party commercial driver: http://www.xig.com/ Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
