Re: [expert] DSL Help Needed

2000-07-06 Thread Ralph F. De Witt

I thank you for your prompt reply. I am told that GTE's dsl is bridged. I am
led to believe that the modem will be an external one that plugs in to an
ethernet card and does not take a crossover cable but a straight cat 5 cable
and the service is dhcp based and should be easy install.  I hope to avoid
this. I am told that I will still retain my 56k dial out capabilities so I will
not configure or change anything unless I am sure it will not kill system and
plan to confer over modem to ensure a minimum of hassle when the day of install
comes which I am told will be July 26th.

Ralph


On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> "Ralph F. De Witt" wrote:
> > 
> > Hi to all:
> > 
> > I have finally bit the bullet and ordered DSL service. This will be provieded
> > by GTE, of course Linux is not supported as a OS, and to make matters worst the
> > last time I read the networking man and how to's I ended up haveing to
> > reinstall both my Winbloz machine and LInux.  I am using Linux Mandrake 7.1 and
> > have all the security updates installed. I am hoping some one can give me the
> > info I need to get it installed and set up.  I thank you in advance for your
> > help and advice in this matter.
> > 
> >  --
> > Ralph F. De Witt
> > 
> > Proud user of Mandrake 7.1 Linux
> > Register Linux User
> > ICQ #49993234
> > 
> > No Windoze were broken in the making of this Message.
> 
> You have to see whether your DSL modem spits out straight 
> Ethernet or PPP-over-Ethernet (PPPoE).  If regular ethernet,
> then just run the dhcp client and act as if you are on any 
> other Ethernet LAN.  Maybe someone else can help if GTE
> makes u use PPPoE.
> 
> Ron
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Re: [expert] DSL Help Needed

2000-07-05 Thread Ralph F. De Witt

On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> "Ralph F. De Witt" wrote:
> > 
> > Hi to all:
> > 
> > I have finally bit the bullet and ordered DSL service. This will be provieded
> > by GTE, of course Linux is not supported as a OS, and to make matters worst the
> > last time I read the networking man and how to's I ended up haveing to
> > reinstall both my Winbloz machine and LInux.  I am using Linux Mandrake 7.1 and
> > have all the security updates installed. I am hoping some one can give me the
> > info I need to get it installed and set up.  I thank you in advance for your
> > help and advice in this matter.
> > 
> >  --
> > Ralph F. De Witt
> > 
> > Proud user of Mandrake 7.1 Linux
> > Register Linux User
> > ICQ #49993234
> > 
> > No Windoze were broken in the making of this Message.
> 
> 
> Well, to make matters *_BAD_* there are networking/DSL combo
> cards that fit your PCI slot and are software driven with Windows
> drivers.
> 
> Make sure you have an Ethernet and a crossover cable to an
> external DSL modem.  If it is IPairGain, you do NOT need a
> crossover--it works strictly as a bridge to the remote
> gateway--and you use the same IP on your ethernet that the
> gateway uses and the crossover is handled on that end.
> 
> If, as is more likely, it is in bridging mode, you need a
> crossover cable and to configure for either static IP or dhcp as
> spec'd by GTE.
> 
> Finally, if it is in routing mode, you will have an IP and a need
> to configure the DSL modem to export routes to the LAN(ethernet
> side) and to the WAN(twisted-pair phone cable) side.
> 
> Whatever you do, do NOT take the "card-based DSL modem".  Make
> sure it is an external so you don't get something driven only by
> proprietary software.  Remember, if there is a binary-only linux
> driver, you then have unaudited and inauditable software INSIDE
> the core of your operating system.  Very few of us migrated to
> linux for that.
> 
> Civileme

I thank you for your prompt reply. I am told that GTE's dsl is bridged. I am
led to believe that the modem will be an external one that plugs in to an
ethernet card and does not take a crossover cable but a straight cat 5 cable
and the service is dhcp based and should be easy install.  I hope to avoid
this. I am told that I will still retain my 56k dial out capabilities so I will
not configure or change anything unless I am sure it will not kill system and
plan to confer over modem to ensure a minimum of hassle when the day of install
comes which I am told will be July 26th.

Ralph

-- 
Ralph F. De Witt

Proud user of Mandrake 7.1 Linux
Register Linux User
ICQ #49993234

No Windoze were broken in the making of this Message.




Re: [expert] DSL Help Needed

2000-07-05 Thread Mike & Tracy Holt

Not a problem!  I'm using GTE adsl service myself (768k / 128k).  I'm using
a Netgear RT311 dsl router as my firewall and since I got the cheapest
package, it comes with the dynamic address.  When I set up 7.1, it
recognized my connection without a hitch (make sure to tell it to look for
the DHCP server if you're using the dynamic ip) and all you need to do is
tell Netscape what your email settings are and off you go.

Mike

> Hi to all:
>
> I have finally bit the bullet and ordered DSL service. This will be
provieded
> by GTE, of course Linux is not supported as a OS, and to make matters
worst the
> last time I read the networking man and how to's I ended up haveing to
> reinstall both my Winbloz machine and LInux.  I am using Linux Mandrake
7.1 and
> have all the security updates installed. I am hoping some one can give me
the
> info I need to get it installed and set up.  I thank you in advance for
your
> help and advice in this matter.
>
>  --
> Ralph F. De Witt





Re: [expert] DSL Help Needed

2000-07-05 Thread Stephen Carville

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Ralph F. De Witt wrote:

- Hi to all:
- 
- I have finally bit the bullet and ordered DSL service. This will be provieded
- by GTE, of course Linux is not supported as a OS, and to make matters worst the
- last time I read the networking man and how to's I ended up haveing to
- reinstall both my Winbloz machine and LInux.  I am using Linux Mandrake 7.1 and
- have all the security updates installed. I am hoping some one can give me the
- info I need to get it installed and set up.  I thank you in advance for your
- help and advice in this matter.

GTE's DSL is just bridged ethernet.  Once the DSL is inststalled and
tested.  Set up your networking just like you were going to be plugged
into an ethernet switch.  If you go with GTE as your ISP (I didn't) you
will have to set up for DHCP.  It is fairly simple to make this work with
linuxconf if your pump DHCP client is up to date.  Make sure it supports
the -h option.

-- 
Stephen Carville

He prayeth best that loveth best
All things both great and small.
The streptococcus is the test,
I love him best of all.




Re: [expert] DSL Help Needed

2000-07-05 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

"Ralph F. De Witt" wrote:
> 
> Hi to all:
> 
> I have finally bit the bullet and ordered DSL service. This will be provieded
> by GTE, of course Linux is not supported as a OS, and to make matters worst the
> last time I read the networking man and how to's I ended up haveing to
> reinstall both my Winbloz machine and LInux.  I am using Linux Mandrake 7.1 and
> have all the security updates installed. I am hoping some one can give me the
> info I need to get it installed and set up.  I thank you in advance for your
> help and advice in this matter.
> 
>  --
> Ralph F. De Witt
> 
> Proud user of Mandrake 7.1 Linux
> Register Linux User
> ICQ #49993234
> 
> No Windoze were broken in the making of this Message.

You have to see whether your DSL modem spits out straight 
Ethernet or PPP-over-Ethernet (PPPoE).  If regular ethernet,
then just run the dhcp client and act as if you are on any 
other Ethernet LAN.  Maybe someone else can help if GTE
makes u use PPPoE.

Ron
-- 
+--+
| Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |
| Jefferson, LA  USA  WWW : [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
|  |
| Most overused words: feel, cool/kewl, fun, myBlah.com|
| Most underused word: think   |
+--+




Re: [expert] DSL Help Needed

2000-07-05 Thread Civileme

"Ralph F. De Witt" wrote:
> 
> Hi to all:
> 
> I have finally bit the bullet and ordered DSL service. This will be provieded
> by GTE, of course Linux is not supported as a OS, and to make matters worst the
> last time I read the networking man and how to's I ended up haveing to
> reinstall both my Winbloz machine and LInux.  I am using Linux Mandrake 7.1 and
> have all the security updates installed. I am hoping some one can give me the
> info I need to get it installed and set up.  I thank you in advance for your
> help and advice in this matter.
> 
>  --
> Ralph F. De Witt
> 
> Proud user of Mandrake 7.1 Linux
> Register Linux User
> ICQ #49993234
> 
> No Windoze were broken in the making of this Message.


Well, to make matters *_BAD_* there are networking/DSL combo
cards that fit your PCI slot and are software driven with Windows
drivers.

Make sure you have an Ethernet and a crossover cable to an
external DSL modem.  If it is IPairGain, you do NOT need a
crossover--it works strictly as a bridge to the remote
gateway--and you use the same IP on your ethernet that the
gateway uses and the crossover is handled on that end.

If, as is more likely, it is in bridging mode, you need a
crossover cable and to configure for either static IP or dhcp as
spec'd by GTE.

Finally, if it is in routing mode, you will have an IP and a need
to configure the DSL modem to export routes to the LAN(ethernet
side) and to the WAN(twisted-pair phone cable) side.

Whatever you do, do NOT take the "card-based DSL modem".  Make
sure it is an external so you don't get something driven only by
proprietary software.  Remember, if there is a binary-only linux
driver, you then have unaudited and inauditable software INSIDE
the core of your operating system.  Very few of us migrated to
linux for that.

Civileme




[expert] DSL Help Needed

2000-07-05 Thread Ralph F. De Witt

Hi to all:

I have finally bit the bullet and ordered DSL service. This will be provieded
by GTE, of course Linux is not supported as a OS, and to make matters worst the
last time I read the networking man and how to's I ended up haveing to
reinstall both my Winbloz machine and LInux.  I am using Linux Mandrake 7.1 and
have all the security updates installed. I am hoping some one can give me the
info I need to get it installed and set up.  I thank you in advance for your
help and advice in this matter.

 -- 
Ralph F. De Witt

Proud user of Mandrake 7.1 Linux
Register Linux User
ICQ #49993234

No Windoze were broken in the making of this Message.