Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
No, these depend on a currently non existent AMD 760MP chipset. This is due out sometime within the next two quarters. Currently, there are no options for dual processor AMD systems. These are expected to be out before Intel can figure out how to get their P4 to run in SMP mode though. Thanks Totally agree on the price / performance ratio in the favor of Athlon /=20 Duron ... But are there any SMP motherboards supporting AMD CPUs available= I believe there are. Asus, I believe, just came out with a dual socket A board. Check http://www.asus.tw. Oleg David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
"David E. Fox" escribi: Right, and the Athlon has quite a bit of level 1 cache (128K) along with 256K (or maybe 512K?) of level 2 cache, plus that runs at the full clock speed of the CPU. Duron: 128k L1 + 64k L2 Athlon: 128k L1 + 256k L2 -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
RE: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
Totally agree on the price / performance ratio in the favor of Athlon / Duron ... But are there any SMP motherboards supporting AMD CPUs available out there ? Oleg On Friday, April 13, 2001 5:59 AM, Joan Tur [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: "David E. Fox" escribi: Right, and the Athlon has quite a bit of level 1 cache (128K) along with 256K (or maybe 512K?) of level 2 cache, plus that runs at the full clock speed of the CPU. Duron: 128k L1 + 64k L2 Athlon: 128k L1 + 256k L2 -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
Duron: 128k L1 + 64k L2 Athlon: 128k L1 + 256k L2 OK. Thanks for clarifying. I suppose that is for the current revisions of both processors. Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
Totally agree on the price / performance ratio in the favor of Athlon /=20 Duron ... But are there any SMP motherboards supporting AMD CPUs available= I believe there are. Asus, I believe, just came out with a dual socket A board. Check http://www.asus.tw. Oleg David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
Yes, it's about CPU cache... For running a database server I'd choose more cache with the CPU, along with fast I/O (SCSI). For anything that would Right, and the Athlon has quite a bit of level 1 cache (128K) along with 256K (or maybe 512K?) of level 2 cache, plus that runs at the full clock speed of the CPU. require a lot of floating point I'd choose more CPU. One can likely get the best of both worlds if one goes the Athlon route, at least for now. I only have a single-procesor system, and I don't know how well the dual socket A motherboards work. Don't bother with a Pentium 4. Piece of crap. Oleg David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
Oleg, Thanks! Randy Kramer Oleg Godeanu wrote: Yes, it's about CPU cache... For running a database server I'd choose more cache with the CPU, along with fast I/O (SCSI). For anything that would require a lot of floating point I'd choose more CPU. More RAM is always better (less swap)... It all depends on how much you can / want to spend and how much does your motherboard support. And SDRAM is cheap - so it's the best way to improve performance - no matter if single processor or SMP ...
RE: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
Depends what are you doing with your machine ... I've got several dual PPro (these should run very cheap these days). Also, ABIT has a dual - Celeron MB - BP6. Also, a dual P3 might be OK ... If more cache is more important for your apps than raw MHz, try sticking to P3 = 600. I think P3 - 600B were the last "regular" P3-s to host 512KB L2 Cache (at 1/2 the speed of the core). Unless you want to spend really BIG bucks and get yourself Xeon MB + processors (don't do it if it's for fun only). For more, check (and subscribe) Linux SMP mailing list - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It might still be that clustering single CPU machines would lead to better performance... Oleg On Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:44 AM, Joan Tur [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hallo! I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU (K6-3-400) and, as i'm using linux 95% of my time i suppose it's better a dual processor architecture, isn't it?? If so... what MB should you suggest? And what processor/speed ?? Thanks ;) Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
I've actually got an ABit BP6 (not that I've put it to any good use yet! bad me! but I'll be running seti@home soon! one day.) Abit actually came out with a version of Linux that makes the most of that board. It's called Gentus Linux... Although, I just did a search on Google about it and it seems it's been stealing code? my 1c (downgraded since the australian dollar became the australian peso!) Oleg Godeanu wrote: Depends what are you doing with your machine ... I've got several dual PPro (these should run very cheap these days). Also, ABIT has a dual - Celeron MB - BP6. Also, a dual P3 might be OK ... If more cache is more important for your apps than raw MHz, try sticking to P3 = 600. I think P3 - 600B were the last "regular" P3-s to host 512KB L2 Cache (at 1/2 the speed of the core). Unless you want to spend really BIG bucks and get yourself Xeon MB + processors (don't do it if it's for fun only). For more, check (and subscribe) Linux SMP mailing list - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It might still be that clustering single CPU machines would lead to better performance... Oleg On Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:44 AM, Joan Tur [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hallo! I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU (K6-3-400) and, as i'm using linux 95% of my time i suppose it's better a dual processor architecture, isn't it?? If so... what MB should you suggest? And what processor/speed ?? Thanks ;) Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -- Elice Wu | Telphone: +61 2 8219 5400| _--_|\ 241 Commonwealth St | Fascimile: +61 2 8219 5499 | / \ Surry Hills NSW 2010 | Extension: 465 | \_.--._* Australia| Web: http://www.viator.com | v
Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
I am running a Supermicro S2DGE Motherboard with 2 Xeon 400MHz with 1 MB Cache, I spent $350 for this coard and procs used. I wouldn't give up the 1 MB Cache for anything, it rocks. It is alot better response wise than my Duron 700MHz system. Chris B Oleg Godeanu wrote: Depends what are you doing with your machine ... I've got several dual PPro (these should run very cheap these days). Also, ABIT has a dual - Celeron MB - BP6. Also, a dual P3 might be OK ... If more cache is more important for your apps than raw MHz, try sticking to P3 = 600. I think P3 - 600B were the last "regular" P3-s to host 512KB L2 Cache (at 1/2 the speed of the core). Unless you want to spend really BIG bucks and get yourself Xeon MB + processors (don't do it if it's for fun only). For more, check (and subscribe) Linux SMP mailing list - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It might still be that clustering single CPU machines would lead to better performance... Oleg On Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:44 AM, Joan Tur [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Hallo! I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU (K6-3-400) and, as i'm using linux 95% of my time i suppose it's better a dual processor architecture, isn't it?? If so... what MB should you suggest? And what processor/speed ?? Thanks ;) Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?
How do you determine whether cache is more important for your applications than raw MHz? (And, are you really talking about cache rather than RAM?) Randy Kramer Oleg Godeanu wrote: If more cache is more important for your apps than raw MHz, try sticking to P3 = 600. I think P3 - 600B were the last "regular" P3-s to host 512KB L2 Cache (at 1/2 the speed of the core).
[expert] Dual processor MB ?
Hallo! I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU (K6-3-400) and, as i'm using linux 95% of my time i suppose it's better a dual processor architecture, isn't it?? If so... what MB should you suggest? And what processor/speed ?? Thanks ;) Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783